Isaac
Years ago

NBL Player Poll - The Player's Vote

In all over 70 athletes responded to the poll, which was open to all NBL players who had at least one year's experience in the iiNet NBL Championship.
Who is the best shooter in the league?
Kirk Penney (New Zealand) 46%
James Harvey (Gold Coast) 17%
Darren Ng (Adelaide) 11%

Who is the best point guard in the league?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 27%
Adam Gibson (Gold Coast Blaze) 24%
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 16%

Who is the best defender in the league?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 20%
Dillon Boucher (New Zealand Breakers) 16%
Adam Gibson (Gold Coast Blaze) 16%

Who is the best passer in the league?
Kevin Braswell (New Zealand Breakers) 23%
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 15%
Dillon Boucher (New Zealand Breakers) 10%
Stephen Hoare (Gold Coast Blaze) 10%

Who is the best rebounder in the league?
Mika Vukona (New Zealand Breakers) 45%
Luke Nevill (Melbourne Tigers) 9%
Jacob Holmes (Adelaide 36ers) 7%
Anthony Petrie (Gold Coast Blaze) 7%

Which team has the deepest bench in the NBL?
Perth 55%
Gold Coast 21%
New Zealand 13%

Who is the best athlete in the league?
Thomas Abercrombie (New Zealand Breakers) 83%
Lucas Walker (Melbourne Tigers) 17%

Who is the best dunker in the league?
Thomas Abercrombie (New Zealand Breakers) 79%
Lucas Walker (Melbourne Tigers) 11%
Pero Vasiljevic (Gold Coast Blaze) 10%

Who is the best hustler in the league?
Brad Robbins (Perth Wildcats) 30%
Dillon Boucher (New Zealand Breakers) 23%
Mika Vukona (New Zealand Breakers) 22%

Who is the toughest player to guard in the paint?
Luke Nevill (Melbourne Tigers) 23%
Matt Knight (Perth Wildcats) 10%
Julian Khazzouh (Sydney Kings) 8%

Who is the toughest player to guard on the perimeter?
Kirk Penney (New Zealand Breakers) 32%
Gary Ervin (Wollongong Hawks) 20%
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 12%

Which player is the most intimidating to play against?
Matt Knight (Perth Wildcats) 24%
Shawn Redhage (Perth Wildcats) 18%
Wade Helliwell (Melbourne Tigers) 14%

Which player is the best sportsman (fairest) in the league?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 15%
Russell Hinder (Townsville Crocodiles) 9%
Mat Campbell (Wollongong Hawks) 6%

Which player talks the most trash of any player in the NBL?
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 30%
Cameron Tragardh (Melbourne Tigers) 16%
Russell Hinder (Townsville Crocodiles) 14%

Which current NBL coach (other than your own) would you most like to play for?
Joey Wright (Gold Coast Blaze) 34%
Rob Beveridge (Perth Wildcats) 20%
Gordie McLeod (Wollongong Hawks) 18%

Who is the most versatile player in the NBL (talented in multiple positions)?
Glen Saville (Wollongong Hawks) 27%
Cameron Tragardh (Melbourne Tigers) 16%
Stephen Weigh (Perth Wildcats) 9%

Which current NBL player constantly improves himself the most, year in year out?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 21%
Anthony Petrie (Gold Coast Blaze) 13%
Thomas Abercrombie (New Zealand Breakers) 13%

Which current NBL player would you pay to see?
Kirk Penney (New Zealand Breakers) 29%
Thomas Abercrombie (New Zealand Breakers) 21%
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 12%

Which is the toughest venue to play in (other than your own)?
Perth 66%
Townsville 10%
Cairns 8%

Which is the best venue to play in (other than your own)?
Perth 39%
Townsville 26%
Adelaide 11%

Which team has the most vocal fans in the league (other than your own)?
Perth 71%
Townsville 11%
Wollongong 5%
Sydney 5%

Which team has the most knowledgeable fans in the league (other than your own)?
Adelaide 60%
Townsville 11%
Perth 11%

Who is the best referee in the league?
Michael Aylen 41%
Scott Butler 38%

Which team has the best mascot in the league (other than your own)?
= Joe Blake (Cairns Taipans) 40%
= The Croc (Townsville Crocodiles) 40%
The Lion (Sydney Kings) 4%

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The Situation  
Years ago

Which player is the most intimidating to play against?
Shawn Redhage (Perth Wildcats) 18%

Only because he is cheating dirty thug who tried to poison the Gatorade bottles of a recent visiting team to the racially insensitive Jungle!

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xztatik  
Years ago

Best passer is interesting, as is GC's appearance in the deepest bench category.

Well done to D-Mart, he's in everything and I can't see one he doesn't deserve.

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DJ  
Years ago

I thought this was quite interesting

Which current NBL player would you pay to see?
Kirk Penney (New Zealand Breakers) 29%
Thomas Abercrombie (New Zealand Breakers) 21%
CJ Bruton (New Zealand Breakers) 12%

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

New Zealand kind of dominated this poll.
Things have definitely changed, pretty sure we used to be the toughest venue and the loudest croud in the league.
Now we don't even rate a mention.
We didn't do very well at all in this poll.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

so from this i get that adelaide players are not known for being good in any area, intimidating, watchable etc, our coach is not really rated high, our home venue is not intimidating or loud.....but we are knowledgable!!

yeah we know we are not that good right now!! but i think we know we will be soon!!

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The Situation  
Years ago

How exactly do players determine that a crowd is knowledgable?

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Isaac  
Years ago

Steve Carfino tells them.

DJ, I thought that was interesting too. Maybe the first two, but not sure about CJ. Would like to see the full lists to see if any Adelaide options scrape in.

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Big Marty  
Years ago

Shame about some of the Stadium votes there.

About 10 years ago, Adelaide would have topped most of them. Good going for Perth though. :)

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Which player is the best sportsman (fairest) in the league?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 15%
Russell Hinder (Townsville Crocodiles) 9%
Mat Campbell (Wollongong Hawks) 6%



I think there is enough proof here to certainly state the following.

Number of players who decided to take the piss instead of voting seriously 9%

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how is wade helliwell intimidating? he hardly gets on the court

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Have you checked his head out lately. Scary stuff

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XY  
Years ago

Wow, 19 of the player related awards went to Breakers. That is a fairly large endorsement by the rest of the competition that the Breakers are the ones to beat.

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mystro  
Years ago

interesting reading. D-Martin goes to show you can play tough D without being an asshole

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Isaac  
Years ago

For sure. Best defender, fairest, best point guard, always improving - those are great accolades from your peers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I love it . Its true Perth have the best fans in the land.

This years title will be the best cause were are going to do it the hard way . I love Redage as a player but this type of thing will bring out the best in the Cats . Everyone watch out the Cats are coming and it starts with 36ers this sunday .

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xztatik  
Years ago

snakepi, 3 years ago I would have agreed with you but Rusty has really changed his ways. Haven't seen him make a dirty play in a long time.

Good call Mystro. Martin and Gibbo are both great examples that a guy like Brad Robbins should try to emulate.

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DJ Rod  
Years ago

I think all 12 Breakers voted on this one and only a few from each other team!

TOTALLY agree on which fans are most knowledgeable!!!

Interesting to see this one seeing as a lot of fans seem to see him as a thug:

Which player is the best sportsman (fairest) in the league?
Damian Martin (Perth Wildcats) 15%
Russell Hinder (Townsville Crocodiles) 9%
Mat Campbell (Wollongong Hawks) 6%

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where's the link for this because it's not on the NBL's website?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Which team has the most knowledgeable fans in the league (other than your own)?
Adelaide 60%
Townsville 11%
Perth 11%


Not surprising :D

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So they think the 6ers have the most knowledgeable fans. They obviously don't read this forum.

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BigD  
Years ago

I agree that 36ers fans are most likely the most knowledgeable, but considering how other teams stack up as a whole, means zilch. There aren't very many knowledgeable fans in Australia at all.

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billo  
Years ago

Agree with DJ Rod - seems likely all the Breakers cast their votes while other teams only had about half. May be totally wrong though.

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billo  
Years ago

Agree with DJ Rod - seems likely all the Breakers cast their votes while other teams only had about half. May be totally wrong though.

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mystro  
Years ago

Which individual accolades that the Breakers players received is there to argue about?

Best Shooter: Kirk Penney (any one care to argue)

Best Passer: Kevin Braswell (plenty of assists and Alley Oop passes each week)

Best Rebounder: Mika Vukona (had ten last week against the Sixers and i'm pretty sure over half of them were offensive)

Best Athlete: Tom Abercrombie (anyone care to argue)

Best Dunker: Tom Abercrombie (anyone care to argue)

Toughest Player to Guard on the Perimeter: Kirk Penney (anyone care to argue)

Biggest Trash Talker: CJ Bruton (Homicide may have been unlucky here lol)

Which Current NBL Player Would You Pay To See: Kirk Penney (anyone care to argue)


Mad props to D-Martin on his accolades, thoroughly deserved. The guys stocks must be rapidly rising on the back of a solid season and he would improve any team he played for.

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DJ Rod  
Years ago

I care to argue with a lot of those!

Best Rebounder: Jacob Holmes?

Best Athlete: Ira Clark

Best Dunker: Ira Clark or Ron Dorsey - Tom does the same dunk every time

Which Current NBL Player Would You Pay To See: Corey Williams, Gary Ervin???

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mystro  
Years ago

Ira Clark was a late arrival to the Blaze so prob missed out on a few votes there but i do agree that the guy is a beast. He is huge tho compared to Abercrombie, it's that small guy Vs big guy in the dunk comp sort of argument but they are both athletic as hell. Abercrombie gets up and down the floor with ease and can jump out of the building.

Jacob Holmes can rebound for sure, he stands out because no one else in Adelaide can, or box out lol. Khazzouh is currently leading the league in rebounds, Holmes is rated 4th and Vukona is further down the list. So fair argument DJ Rod but the players must see it differently .

Yeah Abercrombie does the same safe 2 handed throwdown every single game off a Braswell pass 2 feet above the rim (and has previously climbed over Dorsey to do it). I'll pass your disappointment on to him and see if he can liven it up with a Windmill ect. Ira Clark doesn't always finish his dunk plays, if he did I would completely agree.

I'm a Breakers fan so there is a fair amount of bias in my posts but I do also support the Sixers and the Blaze.

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BigD  
Years ago

Jacob Holmes better then Mika Vukona at rebounding? stop kidding yourself.

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Holmes 7.6 rebounds in 22.8 minutes a game.

Vukona 6.8 rebounds in 21.5 minutes a game.

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Statman  
Years ago

DJ Rod - I'm a blaze fan so am very keen on Clark, but as far as dunking goes I reckon after game #1 he hasnt done squat. Yes he has had a couple of big attempts but he really hasnt actually thrown down many big actual dunks.

Abercrombie on the other hand seems to have a couple per game where he is well above the rim.

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BigD  
Years ago

Vukona plays alongside WIlkinson, a very good rebounder, who does Holmes play against that's tough on the boards? NZ is on top of the ladder, Adelaide is towards the bottom. Besides anybody who actually has watched Vukona play can clearly see he is a better rebounder then Holmes.

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XztatiK  
Years ago

Ballinger averages more boards than Wilkinson. There goes that theory.

The teams average the same amount of rebounds (34.4 to 34.2).

And I'm pretty sure everyone here has seen Mika play.

I'm not saying Holmes is the best rebounder in the league, in fact I'd probably just go with Vukona myself. But don't try and laugh it off like there's no contest here.



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Mystro  
Years ago

Yeah holmes is averaging more per game which I was surpised by just due to the fact Vukona has had a couple of games lately where he has had 8-10 but Holmes has prob put up similar numbers over those rounds. I would think Vukona would have more offensive rebounds than Holmes but could be wrong.

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Big Marty  
Years ago

Mystro, I'd argue that CJ Bruton is harder to guard on the perimeter than Kirk Penney is.

Kirk is certainly the best pure shooter in the league, but Bruton tends to dupe most defenders on him to get easy layups, 10ft jumpers and tends to draw more fouls off the jump fake than Penney.

Have seen Bruton play v Adelaide many times and he easily beats guys like Hill, Ng, Balls etc. off the dribble and tends to make his own shots alot better.

Best Dunker comes down to opportunity, but not necessarily to most dunks in a game. Ambercrombie gets height and alot of chances to dunk, but he doesn't put much flavor on the dunks.

Think Ira Clark's Round 1 dunk has been the best this season, based on that I'd give him the "Best Dunker" category. Think a dunk contest would be needed to really award anyone that title.

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xztatik  
Years ago

CJ might have been the toughest to guard in previous years but not anymore.

Penney relies much more on screens and cuts, but that's probably what makes him so tough to guard itself.

Ervin or Homicide would probably get my vote, not that any of us have ever guarded these blokes...

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Isaac  
Years ago

Gold Coast Bulletin:

The annual NBL players' poll has been released and it clearly shows that Joey Wright is viewed as the best and most respected coach in the competition.
It would clearly show that if the question was "Who is the best and most respected coach in the competition?" but it didn't say that at all! The way it was asked incorporated things like location of team and maybe ease of training or simplicity of system. Could have instead isolated "... if you wanted to develop" and "if you wanted to win." I think Bevo might've been "clearly shown" as the winner then.

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mystro  
Years ago

Fair call on CJ Big Marty, he's super quick still off the dribble and apparently with his mouth also lol but these days Kirk Penney is not just settling for the 3 and is taking it inside and finishing (as illustrated Vs the Sixers) so I would go with Penney, in his hay day CJ Bruton without a doubt.
Ira Clark is very capable of being the best dunker in the league but 1 sick dunk in a season doesn't cut it for me, I'll go with the guy that nails an Alley Oop every game and climbs up for a big 2hander every game (he's the most consistent).

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mystro  
Years ago

Big Marty, I will also add to the CJ vs Penney argument (when they are both on the floor) that Penney would in most cases have the oppositions best defender on him where CJ wouldn't giving him a better opportunity to get to the rack (not always the case but more often than not I would think).

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Big Marty  
Years ago

I wouldn't call screens and picks something that makes Penney "hard to guard". Everyone in the league can do that; you'd only call him tough based on his FG% from it.

If you're talking actual One on One guarding, CJ is still above Penney IMO. Bruton has all the tricks in the book.

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xztatik  
Years ago

Try following Penney around on his constant off-ball baseline cuts and still getting a hand up when he receives it. I'd say was considered by the players in this question, not just on-ball D.

CJ wouldn't even be top 5 anymore IMO.

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mystro  
Years ago

agree Xztatik, Penney moves so well without the ball in hand and can run his defender into 2-3 screens till he gets an open look. If it was that easy Big Marty everyone would put up numbers like Penney.

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SRT070  
Years ago

ARE YOU KIDDING ME???

How in the hell is Murray Magpie not the best mascot in the league? absolute rubbish

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xztatik  
Years ago

Lol I was thinking about that. The Croc and the Snake probably get on the court and around the players a bit more than Murray so they notice them more. He does a great job though.

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SRT070  
Years ago

Murray does some crazy arse stunts though. i never see those lamo mascots do anything good

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mystro  
Years ago

Kerry the Kea Vs Murray the Magpie 1 on 1?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

holy crap xztatic well done on smashing the rebound arguement out of the park, i completely agree but to back it up with those figures brilliant!! well done!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The players keep getting it wrong by voting Adelaide's fans most knowledgeable:

http://www.ozhoopsboards.com/showthread.php?t=5784

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