Did the fact that they have put it in the transaction tracker on the nbl website give you that idea?

Technically, it's where i've heard it last

Is he a citizen and r u talkin bout herbert

Happy he's signed. Hope its not the 'exciting signing' the club was talking about though. We need Ervin!

We better get a really good starting PG that can score, pass and play D because our guard stocks aren't that good. Crosswell, Ng & Herbert are all bench players at best.

C - Johnson/?
PF - Ballinger/?
SF - Weigh/Creek
SG - Herbert/Ng
PG - ?/Crosswell

With Herbert's signing you can only think that the 6ers are going to target a PG & a C with their import spots.

Andre Brown wouldnt be a bad fit for an import center

I'm with you Beantown but think we're both going to be disappointed.....

Herbert is a Starting SG in this league for mine. Not a star but a solid starter. He will easily cover the loss of Carter as our best back court defender and i'm more confident in his 3pt shot. Hopefully the knee injury hasn't slowed him down too much.

Also I want no part of Andre Brown. Dude was an absolute dud for Perth. We could get the same output for a quater of the price from someone like Jacob Holmes.

Looks likeGary Ervin is still in the running...

I personally would like to see

IMPORT / Johnson
Ballinger / Holmes
Weigh / Creek
Herbert / Ng
IMPORT / Crosswell

After reading this article http://www.nbl.com.au/teams/36ers/news/article/article/2011/june/herbert-signs-ervin-still-on-radar/ I am assuming Herbert is the exciting signing.

If My math is correct we have only spent 41 out of a possible 70 points on players so far. Which leaves us with 29 points for 3 players

Balliner 10
Johnson 6
Weigh 7
Creek 1
Herbert 5
Ng 6
Crosswell 6.

So far we have spent the point cap wisely I wonder about the salary cap though

Ng and Herbert could start for any team I think. To say they wont start in the top teams is a bit silly as no one is going to start ahead of Penney in NZ, Perth would obviously start their import and they could start over Dillion and Cedar depending on what the team required. Also they would be an upgrade on Matt Campbell these days.

Whilst signings have not been exciting they do all add smoething to team and as Big Sexy stated we have left the points to gain 3 top players and as club confirmed we are going to use full salary cap then you would have to hope and think that they will top the team up with qlty to give us a strong competitive team.
I would hope any imports would be known imports as Clarkes record with imports was horrendous last year.
Agree with anon where is this exciting signing and we should be asking Sixers when will we hear and why delay

Those 29 points will certainly make or break the team IMO.

Whilst Herbie is not an exciting signing he is a solid signing that offers some versatility between SG & SF.

I think the last 29 points will be spent on;

Import - 10
Import - 9
Returning Aussie - 10

Good signing we definately missed Herbie last season. Things are looking up with Weigh being an improvement on Hill, hopefully another good Aussie signing and surely the two imports would have to be an improvement on last seasons.

Remember that signing schedules are not really set by the club. They can hope but it is nearly always the players making the decisions to sign. e.g., Ervin is waiting on Euro deals, Luke fluffs around each year, etc.

Having to sign 1-2 starters with both import spots left is not that unusual. Hawks and Breakers haven't signed any imports yet, as with other teams. I say 1-2 because Johnson was signed originally to start and has to get that chance one day. May depend on what's available. Biggest money has to be spared for that PG though. I'd be interested to know how much Ervin would need to just sign right away without waiting on other offers.

Yes your points are right Isaac so the club should not make statements like exciting signing within next few days if cant deliver although not all goes to plan. Would not been Ervin signing as that could go on awhile by sound of it

They should have an answer from Ervin within the next 10 days apparently...

ild hope they actually step up johnsons minutes this up-coming season.

we still obviously need to get another good big though to help johnson and balls. as we all know our pressing urgency is a quality pg. if the big, and more importantly if the pg are quality then im not sure we need another import... as long as its a pg that can score like ervin. if its a pg like shannon then we definately need to get another import sg.

good to see herbert back, i was shattered seein his injury happen last pre season, good tough hard nosed player.

Yeah, coz the text message would have sounded better if they'd said "an OK signing to come in the next few days" - what do you want them to do, talk every signing down?

Of course they ham them up. Whatever, I am just stoked they are sending us these sms's.

So true Gazza, it cant be easy and they are telling us more than ever before

Gazza,
They could just say we will be announcing another signing in a few days. Still get the same excited reaction from fans without the disappointment when it is a good signing like Herbert but not an exciting signing like Ervin. I agree it is good to be sending out the SMS but they don't need to beat it up.

I am sure some people are excited to have Herbert back. But yes, I might have worded it "a very good signing" or "a very welcome signing".

Who knows, the exciting one might still be to come.

Baynes/D.Johnson
Ballinger/K.Johnson
Weigh/Creek
Herbert/Ng
Ervin/Crosswell

= 70

Seems as though Holmes and Dowdell could be looking for jobs!

Herbert and Ng is signed there Anon

Still need a starting PG

Easier said than done, both financially and talent wise, not to mention talent distribution between talls, smalls and bigs.

Not sure what people see in Sanders. He was okay, but he didn't set the world on fire for the Kings. I'd be looking at the other Kings import (Gilder) first if he was available. He would be that mobile big we need to cope with the likes of Wortho, Redhage (if fit), Petrie, Tragardh, Vukona. Probably won't be able to afford him if we get Ervin and another Aussie from Europe, but in an ideal world, he would be my final signing. Ie:

DJ Baynes
Balls
Gilder Weigh Creek
Herbert Ng
Ervin Crosswell

This does push Creek back in the rotation, but judging by the season just gone, he has a lot of work to do developing his shot and improving his handle before we can rely on him to be a big factor.

The advantage is that we become very flexible, with Gilder and Weigh able to play both forward positions and Herbert and Creek able to play both wing positions.

This kind of flexibility allows us to go long and athletic to counter other teams small ball when necessary. At times, I'd like to see a lineup with DJ at centre, Gilder and Weigh in the forward positions and Ervin and one of Ng, Herbert or Creek in the backcourt.

Would make us pretty mobile and you'd still have the athleticism and length in Weigh and Gilder to help DJ defend the paint and go get defensive rebounds.

If Clarke really can coach, I'd back that team to make the playoffs and maybe even make some noise.

We're probably better off giving Johnson, Weigh and Creek time on court to really develop and show their skills.

Ballinger, a talented import PG and preferably a Euro Centre would make the team pretty decent

Can't believe Gilder is being talked up ...

wasn't he horrible until very late in the year?

poor shot selection?

no handle?

little intensity?


Maybe a different Gilder, must admit though I did miss a few lae season games.

wayne not a big Gilder fan either but by the end of the season he was there best import

Wayne, you probably saw his first couple of games. He did look poor when he first arrived, but then he found his feet and was very good as the season wore on. He ended up averaging 13 ppg at 46% (Sanders 13 @ 38%) 5.5 rpg, 2 apg, 1 stl and 1 blk. Did a little bit of everything for the Kings, played under control and looked very assured on court.

We got the points for Gilder and an upgrade forward.
Don't think we'd have dollars for him.
Kevin Johnson instead of Trey Gilder will fit.

Suspect you're right Camel, but I still hope for something like the above.

Would be the same as you had except Johnson.K
for Gilder.

I recall Kevin Johnson being brought up before. What kind of player is he and what level has he been playing at? How old, etc?

In a sense we need 48 minute games..Don't we ?

Anyways.. Only saw him once at sixers training..Seemed to play forward
From memory about Creek's build..
Would be upgrade on Holmes Dowdell
Ooops Holmes very popular in ADL
But score a lot more points.
Seems he came out signed by.. not sure .. Qld team , I think n got injured.. played HSH ... a bit injured .I think.
Is living in ADL .. looking for a little bit of gig
whatever .. off the bench or anything for a few bucks
to get going agen

Anon, not sure if that is directed at my suggestion of Gilder? If it is, I see Gilder primarily as a SF, but also able to guard mobile PF's that Balls struggles with. Eg, Wortho, Redhage, Petrie, Tragardh types. Balls also seems to get fatigued and needs a few blows during a game, so I wouldn't expect him to play more than 30 mins most nights. That gives a guy like Gilder 10-15 mins at PF (depending on matchups) plus 15 or so at SF.

While I don't think Herbert is a star, I think he can start and hold down the position against most opponents. If we have Ervin, Balls, DJ, Weigh and Gilder, all Herb needs to do is space the floor and make threes on offence and play hard nosed defence on the other end, which we all know he can do. I think between him and Ng coming off the bench as our microwave, we will have a enough at that position.

In contrast, it is the mobile forwards that consistently kill the Sixers game after game. We haven't had anyone who can contain players like that since Cattalini!

Solid signing of Herbert.

Ballinger is such a luxury. Pretty much an extra import for the 36ers. No need to sign an import 4 man then. And to enhance the development of Johnson the last thing you need is an import center taking all his minutes.

That would narrow it down to PG. Get an import there and fill the backup PF and C with aussies (dare I say it Dowdell, Holmes. Or possibly a really defensive minded center in the Vukona mould)

Don't waste the second import slot. Wait until halfway through the season, see what is missing and recruit then AKA Perth style.

In short, don't waste time on an import forward or center, just get that one gun import PG!

I think he (Johnson) got 30points HSH first game
then DNP ..injury and lived here with (or near) his best mate Eddie Shannon..
Seeing we got the points , now (and the dollars)
seems to fit, now..
Imagine he could put up 20 NBL points, some of the games, not all of the games..

Anyways .. if ya got the dollars for Gilder..
take Gilder .. in that team , we've got above
If not take Johnson . K

Bretts/others, half the problem is people reading into every single word. It's just marketing talk remember.

I mean, Lynx tells you can attract women en masse just by using their deodorant but I can't imagine there are many forums analyzing every marketing claim to the nth degree.

"Hey Nathan, sorry to call your signing 'useful and adequate' but we don't want to create unfair expectations amongst fans."

Life goes on.

Ballinger cant guard certain types of players - he is a 4-5. Someone like K Johnson, who is a 3-4 would give the versatility in the forward spots that Adelaide havent had since Cattalini, Nash, Brooks etc were there.

I reckon Kickert wouild also give you that 4 - 3 versatility.

In fact final signings of Kickert, Mottram and Ervin would give a lot of flexability because all 3 can play 2 positions at a pinch.

If anyone gets injured during the season, then you have 3 points up your sleave together with those of the injured player for that second import.

Kickert is more of a 4-5. He is 208cm and not overly mobile. He could play PF on guys like Hinder, Tragardh, Loughton, Hoare etc.

Anon, I don't think people are bagging the signing of Herbert, it is more the fact the Sixers said it would be an exciting signing, I don't think signing a player who was out for a year coming from major knee surgery can be condsidered exciting. Normally I don't like to be negative when it comes to the sixers but I am not a fan of the oversell

I think the last big signed needs to be more of a legit centre.

DJ can play both positions but Balls is really only suited to PF. Signing a legit centre will give them versatility and coverage should there be an injury.

I'd like to see Baynes signed to this spot as it would compliment Balls and DJ quite well I think....not sure how likely this could be though?

What would peoples thoughts be on Neville as the other big? I think Kickert is more of a finesse type where as the Sixers I feel need some more post play?

I'd be happy with a team like so;

C - Baynes/DJ
PF - Balls/DJ
SF - Weigh/Creek
SG - Herbert/Ng
PG - Ervin/Crosswell

There is a good 3 man rotation between the bigs (Baynes, DJ, Balls) and another between the wings (Weigh, Creek, Herbert).

Just run with 9 to start and see where the defincies are and then maybe bring in the last import spot?

I reckon Herbert and the club are excited about the signing so why should people not agreeing with their word choice matter. Most people on here dont agree with half the things they do. Herbert has been great around the club etc when unable to play and the yaer before was best defensive player. A fit Herbert is a fantastic signing.

Herbie is back playing with his Geelong Supercats in the SEABL.

1st game v Ablury
(20 mins) 20 pts 5 reb 1 ast 7/14fg (4/7 threes)

2nd game v NW Tas
(33 mins) 25 pts 5 reb 5 ast 9/19fg (6/12 threes)

Looks in great shape and building towards a huge year in NBL!!

*Albury...