Great Post player? With no post moves I don't know how this is possible?

Agree with MM's starting 5. Fed up with DJ's pathetic D and softness. Bring him on when Balls goes to the bench for an offensive punch.

I like annons starting 5 of Warren, Crosswell, Weigh, Ballinger, Helliwell.

I think Herbert and Ng havnt deserved a starting 5 spot with their play so far so make them out play Crosswell or Creek who would be my other option for the starting SG.

Its obvious the coaches are not fans of the Ballinger/Johnson combo so id like them to either start Ballinger/Helliwell or Simpson/Johnson.

So id either go with anons 5 above or Warren, Weigh, Creek, Simpson, Johnson.

Given our slow start i would probably go with anons 5 as it gives us 3 new starters, to the other games 2 good ball handlers to handle perths defense, and Ballinger will hopefully give us the spark we need.

I'd go with DJ, Simpson, Weigh, Crosswell and Warren.

Some might recall that in our first game against Perth we were pretty competitive early, with DJ scoring effectively and getting Neville in foul trouble straight away. I also think Balls needs to be eased back in and is needed to keep the score ticking over once we bring some of our bench in.

Would go with Crosswell over Ng or Herbert, because we need someone who can hopefully slow Lisch down early and neither of the former looked like doing that last time.

If Balls is going well, I'd be happy to see him paired with Simpson later in the game, with the latter playing centre.

Weigh is going to be critical to the team's success. Last time, the Sixers lost primarily because first Wagstaff and then Redhage killed us with their mobility and range at the top of the key. Basically, Weigh is our only small forward type who can go with these guys and challenge their shot. If we are lucky, Simpson will be able to guard them a bit, but he hasn't really looked mobile enough for that IMO.

If Simpson can't do it, we're gonna have to use Herbie to give Weigh a breather at SF. IMO Weigh and Herbie have to be right up on Redhage and Wagstaff - no open threes! Force them to put it on the floor and then see if DJ and Simpson can at least put a bit of pressure on them at the rim.

Warren and Croswell 'cause they doubled Warren and we looked a little lost.
SF - Simpson - let's see what he's got and Clarke/Weigh's love affair is putting me off.
PF - Ballinger is our best shooter.
C - Johnson.

Our best 5 is Warren, Weigh, Simpson, Ballinger, Johnson.
Unfortunately we can't really afford to start all 5 (unless Perth are also forced to go tall with Martin out).
Herbert hasn't earnt a starting spot. Ng hasn't really either.
Warren is probably a good enough scorer to play the 2 and to have Crosswell start at the 1 up against Robbins.
Our 5 and their 5 in this equation is actually quite similar.
Robbins vs Crosswell (both usually back-ups but circumstances see them starting)
Lisch vs Warren (star imports, probably each teams best player at this point)
Tovey vs Weigh (defense vs offense, pretty fierce rivalry between the 2 I would have thought)
Redhage vs Ballinger (probably the most important player on each team, when fit both are among the best in the league, naturalised imports)
Knight vs Johnson (young bigs with huge potential)

Then even to the bench there is similarities.
Ng vs Williamson (spot up shooters, not much else)
Simpson vs Nevill (both probably could, even should be starters but have better players ahead of them)
Helliwell vs Trueman (purely depth men on the end of the bench)
Creek vs Wagstaff (youngsters with huge futures)
Herbert vs Hire (Herbert has become a nothing player this year, Hire is only in the lineup with Martin out)

Obviously, the vast majority of these matchups will be won by Perth, but we have a similar makeup. Martin in there changes things obviously.
Will be pretty disappointed if we don't at least compete here.

will marty actually try something new though? so far we have seen him stuck in his ways so i dont think he is going to go too experimental here.

I doubt it very much things will change, if anything we will be 0-6.

The fans are getting frustrated

Sure some would say Weigh is playing too much, personally i would leave him playing around 20- 30 mins, and Have Warren, Ballinger, Johnson all playing 20-30 mins, with Crosswell, Creek, Simpson playing around 25 and the others just play a small amount if at all.

Could work something like this

PG Warren (30)/Crosswell (10)
SG Crosswell (15)/Creek (10)/Herbert (8)/Ng (7)
SF Weigh(25)/Creek (10)/Simpson (5)
PF Ballinger (25)/Simpson (15)
C Helliwell (15)/Johnson (25)

That leaves our main players playing 20-30 mins

Warren 30
Crosswell 25
Weigh 25
Ballinger 25
Johnson 25
Simpson 20
Creek 20, not really a SG offensively but his size and athelticism should mean he can guard Lisch well and limit his otuput, Weigh is a good enough perimiter/mid range scorer and ball handler to be the SG offensively for the time Creek is there.

That gives us a main 7 with Helliwell rounding out our 8 man rotation, and Ng and Herbert used in small bursts, for Ng to shoot a couple of quick 3's and Herbert to play some hard defense on Lisch for a few minutes, if they show good form give them a few extra minutes.

He likes to play Ballinger at Centre and Weigh for 36mins and doesn't like Johnson and Ballinger on together . Be interested to see tonite.

So, any consensus on the starters?

The starters for a winning game:

"Adelaide opened with Warren, 23, Mitch Creek, 19, Weigh, 24, Simpson, 24 and Johnson, 23 - the youngest starting group in the league this season."