good game to watch with plenty of feeling from both sides. Watched this after the NZ Vs Melbourne game, good night of Basketball on Tv

It wasnt bad reffing, it was a lack of discipline by the Blaze, they kept reaching and grabbing when they knew the refs were calling those fouls tightly.

It is hard when the reffing changes mid-season, but all teams have to adjust. Cairns moved their feet and got their bodies in position and forced GC into a lot of tough shots, rather than trying to pressure by hacking.

I suggest Wortho should just ask his fkn point guard what happened to those 22 extra shots that the Blaze had.

I think Joey needs to go.
I see his coaching style as a real hindrance to this group.

There is no real defensive discipline about this group, and Joey's style is making the players too focused on the offensive end. Goulding, Deleon, Harvey, Worthington -- All they care about is getting theirs.

Look at the players that go there. They don't exactly develop at the same speed that other players in the NBL do.

Gibson hasn't really developed IMHO, whereas look at a player like Martin under Beveridge and its fair to say he has improved dramatically- and IMO he has overtaken Gibson.

With players like Worthington, Harvey, Goulding, Gibson, Deleon, Hudson, Petrie, Hoare and a solid backup PG in Cadee, a 4-4 WL record is not good enough.

They lack defensive discipline, defensive effort/work ethic and their fitness levels are poor.

Good point fstos! I think they should run Deleon more at SG and let Gibson run the point. When the first offence doesnt work get the ball to Deleon and give him a high ball screen.

As it was, Deleon just shot them out of the game. He got a bit carried away with his form but it will only get tougher I think as teams see more of him.

I remember in a time out that Joey said to Deleon:

"Be more aggressive"..I think he took that a bit too literally and was a little overhyped.

I still reckon Joey failed by not taking him out of the game -- Even just a few minutes on the pine would have helped.

Fair to say, his subbing last night or lack of it was terrible

there was nothing wrong with the reffing last night....or no more then usual anyway.
joey's timing of the tech he got was terrible,ripping his tie off etc bad examples but fits with the undisciplined team he coaches.
harvey even challenged him when he was subbed out.
from top to bottom they reek of a self centered bunch of spoilt brats!!

There is no discipline in that whole playing group.

They are out of control and will probably end up giving up 5 to 10 free points a game from unsportsmanlike fouls and Techs in the new year when the refs get to the stage that they just don't want to hear it. I wouldn't mind seeing Roger Shields, Damian Lyons and Scott Butler on their games for 3 weeks straight.

anon - when you piss the refs off that much you aint going to get the calls.
when the balance of complaining/copping it on the chin get that far out of whack the refs aren't going to help you.
blaze do need a stronger d,unawares to that mob d also stands for
disclipine.....determination.....dedication !!!!

Anon, I agree, its not just about the problems with GC but how well Cairns played that brought about the result. They were cetainly much better against GC than Adelaide was the previous week despite the fact that I think Adelaide have a much better line up.

Forgot to post the +/- for this one:

Cairns

• Alex Loughton (14)
• Aaron Grabau (11)
• Andrew Warren (10)
• Jamar Wilson (9)
• Jeff Dowdell (4)
• Ian Crosswhite (3)
• Kerry Williams (-1)
• Brad Hill (-2)
• Dean Brebner (-3)

• Anthony Petrie (3)
• Adris Deleon (0)
• Tom Garlepp (-2)
• Chris Goulding (-4)
• Mark Worthington (-5)
• Jason Cadee (-5)
• Stephen Hoare (-5)
• James Harvey (-7)
• Adam Gibson (-8)
• Will Hudson (-12)