so has bose definately left??

cause those 4 above with madgen and dann isnt an improvement is it really??

i mean, you have

out . kaz bose grant

in crosswhite, harvs , garlepp.

it looks heaps better defensively i guess. wheres reliable big scorer?? the go-to guy on offense??

i guess same as alot of nbl teams it all comes down to how good the imports will be that will decide if the team is any good.

I assume this is what they're looking like at this point?

Import?/Martin
Bruce/Harvey
Madgen/?
Import?/Dann
Crosswhite/Garlepp

phil, Khazzouh, Bose and Grant would be more expensive than Crosswhite, Harvey and Garlepp (unless the Kings are insane). In which case, they can bring in their PG import and have someone better than Ratzsch.

No chance Anatoly Bose is returning to the Kings. Neither is Grant or Ratzsch.

Gynes is still a possibility at returning

Doesn't this news mean that Cadee's number 1 target now would be Adelaide?

KingJames, haven't you noticed me mention Cadee enough times by now to know he's likely coming to Adelaide. ;)

Isaac do you think Cadee to the 36ers is a good move considering Croswell is our current back up?

Haven't watched enough of Cadee to know but people seem to rate him as a prospect. My guess is that Crosswell would start initially and then Cadee would work to steal that spot. I imagine that the thinking is that Cadee could learn from someone like Crosswell who's been around, had championship success, etc.

well, if we can go after a 6'1- 6-4 american guard who can handle the ball, and score without needing to always have the ball in his hands then yes, cadee crosswell would be great. would hope we target one thats a good defender too.

a guard rotation of cadee, crosswell, import, ng, daly would work. paired with weigh/creek johnson/ shensch and i would target the best young 6'9/6'11 guy i could to play a few minutes.

that would leave us with enough points to go after another import in case of injury.

well no-one ever is until they are



as in, everyone who is now good, or a starter, was once a young kid coming off a bench. i wonder how many said......

FYI - Kings have already signed an import PG as well..

who???

Hammer could right some wrongs and sign Kavossy Franklin and Rosell Ellis as his imports !

Has the Import PG the Kings signed already played in the NBL? or a newbie?

I'll start a thread for the import speculation. Nice info gathering, Nat.

Isaac, I hadn't caught up with the other threads prior to posting.

I am not totally convinced with Cadee either however I think he has huge potential and if he is given the right chance he might be a great signing.

Either way the team they are assembling is much better then last year and if things go the way they are then next season will be a good year.

bring back martin iti!!!!

How did this turn into a Cadee to the Sixers thread? lol...

I know no-one in their right mind would probably swap those three for each other, but really, Bose, Khazzouh and Grant were gone with no chance of returning... We were lucky with the lockout to get Grant, he won't be playing NBL level leagues next season, that's for sure... So that's leaving what crop of players this season?

Crosswhite is one of the better big men in the league and IS capable of putting plenty of points on the board when needed, has a nice touch around the basket and is a lot tougher than Jules... His experience will really anchor the team... I'm still not sold on Harvey... if he's healthy, great, but the guy just hasn't had a (good) break with his body, so if we get half a season out of him, I will be really surprised...

I think the lineup would be more like the below, Isaac, you're not going to push your young talented starting SG out of position, I would hope...

Import PG / Martin
Madgen / Bruce
Harvey / ?
Import? / Dann
Crosswhite / Garlepp

That's 63 points (62 if we can get Dann re-rated down mid-contract like Perth did with Williamson) with room either a quality SF or moving Dann to SF backup, Garlepp to the 4, someone like Burston in backing up Crosswhite...

With Bruce spelling both Madgen and the Import PG, you keep up the pressure all game with the scoring from outside and if he's spelling the PG moreso, you're not really losing that much with ball handling as Bruce pulled off some ripper passes last season which leaves Madgen to penetrate and do what he does best...

phil: hopefully Madgen will be turning into our "got to make that shot" guy, or the imports? Also, Bruce showed he's a good scorer and with Crosswhite inside, he's not going to get pushed around either... It's not just about relying on that one shot at the end of the game if you've got the right players to get a good lead and keep it... If they work hard, you never know what this team is capable of...

The Kings will have written a contract that covers Harvey and his recovery and protects their money. He will expect nothing less I'm sure. Also Heal needs to protect his own future. I like the look of this group and there don't appear to be egos that need stroking.
That's a healthy aspect.
If Burston is available, I expect he will be more inclined to head south to Wollongong and family if a spot is available. However he was said to have bought property in Melbourne and his wife is BB retired and now into a career no doubt. Haven't heard much about his physical condition for some time. There's a guy who could have been anything IMO.

'437, I heard the same. Only there because they couldn't keep Bose.

Sounds like a divisive player and the same was rumoured in Adelaide.

Early in the season , I heard Heal, as a TV commentator ,
before he was coach , say he'd have an Import PG and Bruce at 2 .
Of any off-court malaise , I cain't comment ,
only ever watched him play and train . I've never met him.

Hmm... fan of Garlepp... joycefan?

*Ian Crosswhite = Not fit & Always injured
he missed the first six games I think last season and came in and scored 13ppg (@54%) and pulled down 6.8rpg over the first 6 games... He averaged nearly 30mpg in 2011/12, he played a full season into the grand final series the season before that and has missed a handful of games before that... I'm quite happy to suggest you're full of it...

The injury concern with Harvey is legitimate as well as how Bruce is coming back... With less pressure on him though, hopefully he doesn't have to jump in straight away...

Need 2 really good imports to blend this mob of aussies! No X factor at all! No finals 4 Kings IMO...

& while i'm at it 36ers will struggle again also.

Big improvers - TAIPANS!!

Assuming Cairns re-sign Loughton their import will likely come off the bench too.

Kings have put a solid crew together, but I think theyll really need their imports to be good contributors to even contend for 4th.

Taips are looking for an import C - depending on the team they are playing the import would start and rotate with Dusty/Alex/Trigger.

It looks as though Loughton went FA to reduce his points rating - word is he has already signed but the paperwork didn't make it last week. He is currently at the Mt Isa Mining Expo with sponsor Skytrans in his Taipans uniform - you dont do that if you haven't re-signed with the club LOL

Someone like Baynes would be good, but he is looking for more fame and fortune in Europe for the next few years - he is a Cairns (Mareeba based family) boy like Jawai so expect them to play for the club eventually. A rather mouth watering proposition.

Adelaide have recruited well and looking a lot better than last year. DJ at 4 and luke at 5 looks good but they will need a good preseason to gel.

ADE better than Cairns so far ?

Cadee is an upgrade and will get better, Crosswell missed the season and will be rough, mitch has talent but is raw, Luke/DJ could be potent. The rest of the team had a season to forget.

V

Import Big / Trigger (inside) / Loughton (outside) / Dusty (garbage man - does anything) rotation is a massive step from last year offensively. Defensively its about the team system and Fearne has a proven team defensive system. Gliddon/Steidl - future boomers and shooting prowess, Grabua / Hill (should be signed) - atheleticism v defence mongrel and Jamar (its Jamar 'The Smiling Executioner' Wilson - enough said). Taips need a reliable backup to Jamar from the FA list but overall the club has addressed shortcomings from last year and with a good preseason will go top 4 (only missed by 1 game after all those injuries)

I think he's saying someone mentioned Tomlinson to the Taipans.

It's a bit confusing paul, when the Kings threads turn into either Sixers or Taipans threads lately ;)