Anonymous
Years ago

Possible new 36ers venue?

ADELAIDE Entertainment Centre and Netball SA Stadium are the 36ers' alternative NBL venue options if staying at Adelaide Arena becomes untenable.

The Supreme Court's decision to direct the Arena's owner, former childcare magnate Eddy Groves, to pay Commonwealth Bank almost $8.4 million in principal and interest for the $5 million unsecured loan it advanced in 2006 so he could buy the venue, has left the Sixers considering alternatives.

"We are definitely uncomfortable," 36ers chief executive Leeanne Grantham said.

"We're proceeding on the basis we will be here because we have a lease until 2014.

"We've asked the owner to ensure the security of our lease is upheld in any discussion and we're recognised as an existing tenant."

Adelaide Lightning and Basketball SA also are based at the Arena.

"We are looking at options such as ETSA Park (Netball SA Stadium) and the entertainment centre," Grantham said.


http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/sixers-review-venue-options/story-fndekpx4-1226423839144


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Anonymous  
Years ago

The EC is crap for bb

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have there ever been bb games @ either venue in the past? And what about seating numbers??

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Camel 31  
Years ago

I seem to recall the Netballers get 3,500 at their stadium (full) and they get 10,500 at EC (full).

Still hoolahoops not big fans .

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Anonymous  
Years ago

head back to the apollo!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If they went to the Netball stadium with 3500 seats thatd sink the 6ers unless people paid double for their tickets than what they are now. This isnt the Melbourne Tigers and the cage they play in. Ec would be interesting option.

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Ricey  
Years ago

Netball stadium could work though. Guarantee sell out, looks way better on tv, which will help attract bigger pocket sponsors. EC would be fine if we sold 8000+ tickets

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

How many could you fit in Marion?

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Statman  
Years ago

Im not so sure - I still think we would need to sign Dusty for EC to be fine :)

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KET  
Years ago

How many could you fit in Marion?


You mean South's home ground?

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Thomo  
Years ago

lol Statman almost fell off my office chair reading that, wouldn't be as funny if it wasn't so true :)

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EC  
Years ago

Statman has been busy digging into the archives to retrieve that information. Old news mate.

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Red  
Years ago

Not being from Adelaide, can anyone tell me why the 36ers play at Adelaide Arena & not Adelaide Entertainment Centre? Is it location????? Have they ever played there?
I'm assuming it would be similar to the Sydney EC where the Kings play & the Perth EC where the Wildcats use to play.
Just wondering

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KET  
Years ago

Adelaide Entertainment Centre has a much better location.

Adelaide Arena was purpose built for basketball and the 36ers by the then 36ers owner "BASA". "BASA" then sold the 36ers and Adelaide Arena but the Sixers continued in its current home.

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SRT070  
Years ago

roof doesn't leak at the EC either

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Red,

Yes, the 36ers played a few years at the AEC before the Powerhouse/Dome/Adelaide Arena switch.

I never saw a 36ers game at the Entertainment Centre but my brother did, around early 90's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Red,

Yes, the 36ers played a few years at the AEC before the Powerhouse/Dome/Adelaide Arena switch.

I never saw a 36ers game at the Entertainment Centre but my brother did, around early 90's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When did the sixers ever play @ the EC. I recal a preseaon game @ the convetition centre - Brisbane, but none @ the EC?

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Libertine  
Years ago

Dome is purpose built for basketball, makes sense. What's the sightlines like at the EC? Anyone been to the netball games there?

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auslot  
Years ago

anon 114

I have been following the sixers since 86 and i dont recall them playing at the EC. I think you might be wrong on that one

Have been a volunteer during the ANZ championship netball through work and it gets tight when the game is sold out. I still think where melbourne play is better than that. more room

And the corporate boxes would not be ale to be sold for the club to make money money would go to netball sa.

I have been to the championship game played in netball at the EC and it gives a lot more room than ETSA park.

It would be goo if we had to move the EC its walking distance from home. (yipee)

Lets see what happens.

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lukn4atitle  
Years ago

The 36ers never played at the Entertainment Centre.

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Anon12  
Years ago

I don't recall the 36ers ever playing at the EC or at ETSA, however basketball has been played at ETSA when some pre olympic games (Opals) were played there in 2000. I'm not sure if any other games have been played at ETSA. Netball plays at the EC because apparently they have issues with the court at Adelaide Arena.

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BJF  
Years ago

Only basketball game to be played at the EC was Crows V Noarlunga City Tigers circa 1994

36ers did play a pre season / trial game at the convention centre on a non regular court around 1990

Netball does like playing at the AA but the receivers who entered the building last time scared them off, they then did the deal with the EC and that is that

When it was first built all Netball games were played there, then the state gov built ETSA for them and they moved

also remember that AA was built to be an entertainment centre too before the EC was green lighted. State Gov used to pay BASA $ not to compete against the EC for events.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

I cannot see how the schedule could work with the EC especially if the AA is closed down between now and next season.
Netball stadium could be their only option but as already mentioned revenue will be a major problem
Ticket prices will have to double.
Glad I have my season tickets already.

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Anon12  
Years ago

BJF. With regards to the Arena (or originally Powerhouse) being an entertainment venue, that is not quite true. BASA wanted to get out of Apollo (which was a successful entertainment venue) but wanted there own stadium. Government wanted to build the EC and offered BASA the opportunity to go in as a partner and use the EC for 36ers/basketball games. BASA insisted that they wanted there own stand-alone stadium. To get funding from the government BASA had to agree that they would not compete against the EC for entertainment, excepting sport. BASA did also receive assistance from te government when funding etc became an issue resulting, ultimately, in the sale of the venue. If the 36ers now went to the EC a portable floor (additional cost) would be required (not sure if the EC already have one, or if a portable court is anywhere in Adelaide) which would impact on prices. Would the complete EC be used or would only part of the area be used, similar to Cannons games when they first went to the AIS stadium?.

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Ricey  
Years ago

The Arena couldn't be used for concerts or anything like that anyway. Is horrible for sound

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon12 that's not true in the slightest.

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BJF  
Years ago

Anon 12 not true at all
I have looked through all the documents and approvals for the powerhouse
It was most definitely conceived as a multi purpose venue.The first of its kind in Adelaide
Tom Jones performed there early on as well as a circus
In fact it was the handy work of the then EC leader Mal Hemmerling that led to the pressure being applied to the venue to stop competing with the then white elephant EC
The government placed restrictions of use on the Powerhouse as a trade off for annual payments

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Anonymous  
Years ago

actually BASA owned outright Apollo it was used as an EC as well but it was primarily a basketball court.
When bball became popular in the 80s they went for a larger venue and they tried to take with them the entertainment centre part of it.

Govt EC put paid to that but to say they moved from Apollo cause they didn't own it is just plain wrong.

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Ushiro  
Years ago

Government funding and support for AA came about partly as the State Governments ill conceived push for the 1998 Commonwealth Games. They needed an additional indoor venue for the bid. I have never been to the Entertainment Centre so cannot confirm, but I have been told that the corporate box layouts were originally designed with court sports, ie basketball, netball, etc in mind.

One of the biggest reasons that the 36ers never went there despite huge pushes was that the carparking, advertising, naming rights, hospitality revenue streams, etc are under the control of the venue. This would have resulted in a similar revenue situation which has hamstrung the Crows and Power at West Lakes. Add to this the availability issues that other states faces due to other more income generating bookings, and it is not hard to understand why the 36ers did not take up the offer.

Realistically a revived 36ers playing at the Entertainment Centre would be great to see for many reasons, but a packed house at a secured AA would be even better.

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Statman  
Years ago

One of the major issues for the Blaze has been having to play out of the Convention centre in Broadbeach, where they have to pay huge rent and get zero return from any food/drinks/carparking.
Adding 30-50k to game night costs has made breaking even with an attendance of 3-3.5k rather hard!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

May need to return to the adelaide casino where they played an exhibition game in the 90's

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Anonymous  
Years ago

At least the food and beer will be cheaper
and I can get a train home

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Anonymous  
Years ago

just move to wayville we the supporters might as well lose total control of SA Basketball as we don't have much influence now, but hey would satisfy their ego's (Fville)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Apologies if I got it wrong about the 36ers playing at the AEC but I distinctly remember my brother saying he saw a 36ers game there in the early 90's and someone else told me they played 1-2 years there in between Apollo and the Powerhouse.

I can't understand why my brother would've lied about something like that (I suspect it was true) but if others are sure it's incorrect happy to admit I was wrong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

would the scoreboard work at EC in that case I am sold

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Fill Smythe  
Years ago

EC does not have enough parking + 36ers & BSA would have to hire office space.

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Beantown  
Years ago

I've followed the Sixers since about '86 and I also cannot recall them ever playing at the Ent Cent. If they did it would only have been a one off.

Even with the terrible on-court results of the past few years, crowd numbers have been well above ETSA Park capacity on a regular basis. Moving there would be a massive step backwards for basketball.

The Ent Cent wouldn't work either. Its too big for the crowds the Sixers will get in the forseeable future. Have always hated the cramped and more steeply banked seating at the Ent Cent too. I would be very surprised if you got as good a view of the action there as is currently offered at the Adelaide Arena.

I really hope the Sixers can remain at Adelaide Arena long-term. Its capacity is about right and it is setup for basketball, with great views of the court all round. Lets hope whoever buys the venue will do the right thing by basketball.

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Gnome  
Years ago

I do recall them playing a game at the Entertainment Centre at least once.
I think it may have been around the opening of it ? back when and they played a demonstration game.
I also recall that the seating was not as suited to basketball as the Powerhouse was.

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PeterJohn  
Years ago

As a season ticket holder from 1986 to 1997, I can say unequivocally that no NBL games were played by the 36ers at the Entertainment Centre in the early 1990s.

Anon - maybe your brother went to the demonstration game to which others above have referred. I can't speak with any authority about such a game as I only went to NBL minor and major round games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

how about Basketballsa buy/lease the venue, costs met by clubs, profits returned to clubs, run juniors there again, moving West/Woodville - to there??

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Phadreus  
Years ago

Because the venue does not make a profit.

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