I thought it was amazing in that write up marty clarke said they didnt need a scorer??? I mean sorry but thats EXACTLY what they need what a moron!

I think they were gonna go all Aussie , but Darren Ng retired.

Hurls, he said they don't need a superstar scorer, and they don't. Five of the players averaged double figures last season and a few of them weren't at their best through injury, etc. Creek and Cadee could be expected to improve on last year's 5 PPG too.

If Massingale averages 8-12 PPG, that's fine.

That'd make a swag of guys capable of hitting 20 on their night.

Vasiljevic was a 4 point (down from 5 by appeal) back in 2011. In the same rating period, Mottram was a 6 (down from 9 by appeal). If Mottram has dropped to a 3, can't see why Vasiljevic couldn't too if we appealed the 4.

I'm sure this board would explode with joy if we sign Massingale. He's been the posterboy for 'give him a shot' ever since I've been posting here. Never seen him play, but by the sounds of it, he's a scorer who doesn't defend. Could work well in a line-up with Creek and Gibson who are more defensive options who can score a bit too.

Alot of NZNBL imports were also imports in the NBL:

Jason Crowe, Nick Horvath (now naturalised), Justin Bailey, Larry Abney, Eric Devendorf, Galen Young, Darryl Hudson, Rashard Tucker, Kevin Braswell.

NBL teams need to start looking into the NZNBL for cheap, good quality imports. I truly believe its best for teams to load its roster with very good local players (Like the 36ers have done) and then go out and get relatively cheap imports who can still contribute.

I think ANBL teams should have really gone hard and done more homework on getting Jerry Smith.

Dude went on to play for the New Jersey Nets.

Cj's names been floating around for long enough now. give the lad a shot...

If we sign him, whether he performs well or not, there will be people saying 'I told you so'

The obvious reason being that everyone thinks they know best!

If BA kept their finger out of every pie in relation to imports and visiting tourists playing in local competitions the game would be better off.

Unfortunately in the past 24 months we have seen constant changes made by BA to disrupt clubs bringing in imports especially in CABL, SBL, WBL and DBL.

The word around Pero will play for as little as $40,000 ...Bargain

How is CJ a 10? Has played SEABL for 7 years, so clearly not up to the standards of what a 10 should be I would think. Never seen him play an know nothing about him, hit based on the fact he isn't getting NBL level gigs, should he really be rated a 10? This kind of proves how stupid this points system is

Will cop a heap of criticism over this but I fail to see why the Sixers would chase Pero? I think he's incredibly overrated at ABL level, has an absolutely disgraceful attitude, is not a good scorer nor 1 on 1 defender. Is also not the most intelligent player on the floor either. He's absolutely killed North's program and watching him play on the weekend I was not anymore impressed. For someone who should have been the go to guy on offense he was almost a non-factor really. Would so much rather a Vanderjagt or even a local import Brian Moultrie.

Interesting point with CJ being a 10. If he was naturalized next week (hypothetically), having only played SEABL for the last 7 years, would his rating be like a 3 or 4??

Come on AK-47 your arguement just fell down when you suggested Vanderjagt!
Pero 18 points and 11 boards, Vanderjagt 15 points and 7 rebounds. Ben Allen is averaging 17 and 12 in that league! ;)

#The Brad - CABL isn't the same level as SEABL or QBL so Pero's numbers are vastly inflated compared to QBL/SEABL numbers.

When looking at the nu,bers across the ABA league it is better to take a snap shot of players when playing against other teams in the top 4 or 5 as opposed to a number of guys who's numbers are inflated playing against the lower teams whih have little to no talent!

Its not only about statistics in current SEABL/ABL leagues although Tiger Watcher is correct in sayingg SEABL is by far more competitive than ABL. As a locker room presence I think Vanderjagt brings more as a far as attitude and experience goes. Lets face it, this last position isn't going to be required to play heaps of minutes so a personality fit is just as important in my opinion.

How is CJ a 10?

Anonymous,

I'm sure if I spoke to the guy he'd tell me about how well he is running the squad, how great a leader he is and how much good he's doing. Speak to the players and I'm not so sure you'd get the same answer. Before you tell me I have no clue wait to see how many players stick around Pero's program.

Players don't always move because they want an easier time... That's just a stupid comment... Because if that's the case, what's that say about people moving to Sturt, or Forrestville? Hmmmm

Actually, it's exactly what you typed lol...

I think if Pero gets the gig it will be with limited playing time, basically there to cover injuries. With the line up already i doubt he'll play much at all. Massingale seems with our current line-up fit in quite well as a sixth man back -up shooting gd or even slowly weened into the nbl system coming of the bench with no expectations and he will blossum.
I believe this line up is potent, we can mix n match, has good depth at all positions.
Johnson is the next chris anstey and with schenscher next to him, exciting times for the 36ers.
Potential line-up
Schenscher, johnson, pero
Johnson, Petrie, Weigh
Weigh, Creek,
Creek, Massingale , Crosswell
Gibson, Cadee, Crosswell

Maybe even Creek will play a back up sf role with all the decent guards we have.

I actually like the idea of Gibson starting at the 1 and Creek at the 2.

A depth chart looking like this would be good:

C/ Schencher(30)/Johnson(10)/back up big(0)
PF/ Johnson(20)/ Petrie(20)
SF/ Weigh (25)/ Creek(10)/Massingale(5)
SG/ Creek(10)/Gibson(10)/Massingale(10)/Cadee(10)
PG/ Gibson (20)/Cadee(10)/Crosswell(10)

We definitely have the depth to see minutes vary every night according to performance. Eg Creek playing 30 and Weigh just 20 because Creek is unguardable/shutting down offensive player or Johnson is far to quick for opposition centre so needs more time at the 5 etc

Is CJ a good 3 point shooter.

Massingale shot 37.4% in the current SEABL season. Has been in the 37-40% range in the last five years. Best mark in the SEABL was 44% 6-7 years ago.

For comparative purposes, 40% made fifth spot in the NBL last season (Corletto). 37.4% would've had Massingale around the mark of Darren Ng and CJ Bruton last season, and better than Lisch, Deleon, Mills, etc. Top 36ers last season were Johnson (37.8%) and Ng (37.5%).

So, yes, seems like a decent shooter.

Have seen CJ play on a number of occasions - he has a knack for dropping threes with defenders in his face on a regular basis.

Will be a good recruit if the 36ers choose to go with him.

Percentages do tend to drop as players go up in standard, but he certianly isnt a bad shooter and is very dangerous when hot.

No doubt if he cant defend his court time will be limited by that.

After all the years of talk - he's not good enough, yes he is, no he's not - I would just like to see him give it a crack. If he is in the process of being naturalised I think he has a few years in front of him. An Aussie who's done what he has in the SEABL would get signed pretty quickly.