Tom
Years ago

New Big V club 'Oakleigh Warriors'?

Was talking to someone who said they were asked to train with a new Big V club called Oakleigh Warriors. They have a former Big V coach appointed.

Does anybody know anything about them?

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paul  
Years ago

Run by Bob Mann, ex-McKinnon Cougars. They are based in the new and impressive Glen Eira Rec Centre.

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anon  
Years ago

Oakleigh Warriors are NOT in the Big V for 2013.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another "Warrior".....

Any chance of someone thinking of something original as a Mascot/Nickmane?

Oakleigh Assassins
Oakleigh Blitz
Oakleigh Meerkats
Oakleigh Otters

Just a thought...

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anon  
Years ago

Does not matter what they are called they are not in the competition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I like Oakleigh Wogs. At least the name will have some history in that area!

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Sting what?  
Years ago

They could be a new club but they are only voted in at the AGM which happens in November sometime.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Knowing the BigV's "socialist" views on Basketball id say they'd welcome them with open arms..

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HO  
Years ago

Sting What? U just prompted something, if clubs are voted in at the AGM - does that mean all the SEABL clubs will be voted in with the YL and Dl merging?

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Sting what?  
Years ago

I am not too sure in regards to the details of how the merge with D League and Big V stands. but in the latest Big V Silly Season they mentioned new clubs are only accepted at the AGM.

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#45  
Years ago

So are they up to be voted in at the AGM?

How long have they been around??? Until now I had never heard of them.

If they have only been around for 3 minutes I personally think the league should wait until they have a proven history of being able to compete at Big V level.

Look what happened with Darebin. They were only a couple of years old, entered the Big V and then went broke after 2 seasons.

Surely at some point sustainabilty of the program must be thoroughly investigated.

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#45  
Years ago

Also, seriously why go with ANOTHER 'Warriors'????

C'mon could you not of thought of something else, I reckon I could have come up with at least 500 other nicknames that ARE NOT currently being used by other clubs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How can they prove they can compete at BigV level if you don't allow them to enter??!!!
The lower Divs are no different to A Grade domestic anyway. If they're applying for Champ Men i agree but lower Divs just let them enter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What ever happened to the Oakleigh Wolves..? They used to be in the VBA Div 1...

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HO  
Years ago

Anon, any club should show a history and pattern of success in juniors before moving to BigV. If their U18's and U16's are doing well, and if they have good numbers in lower age groups, then they have the basis for a submission. If their under age teams are languishing in the lower regions of the VJBL - then think again. The league also used to factor in success at MMBL. I know nothing about this club so won't comment, but there are a few things you can look at.

D1 and D2 are better than domestic - thats just too easy an accusation to throw out. Most teams in Melbourne domestic comps don't train together, just get together and play, run up and down and shoot the 3 etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The problem of another team is not only how good are they, but it thins the player pool, thins an already crapola referee panel even further. Expansion for just the sake of expansions sake is no good for the sport in my opinion.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree with above, its not an elite competition anymore, everything is spread out too thinnly.

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anon  
Years ago

Lot's of debate around this- Oakleigh are not even being voted on at the Big V AGM. Not in- pretty simple.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oakliegh did not play MMBL this season as they 'didn't have enough committed players who were good enough'

I really hope the league sees common sense and dosen't allow ANOTHER small Metro club into a league that desperately needs to get some more country clubs.

I feel until there are some more country sides they should hold off on more metro teams.

Also why change the name from Wolves?? To the best of my knowledge there are no other associations with the name Wolves. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wodonga are the Wolves

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wodonga dont play Big V

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Tom  
Years ago

Are you all sure Oakleigh are not getting into Big V?

The coach (Bob Man?) has asked another person to join them from next year, offering some decent $$$. This is a current D1M player who psoted good numbers last season.

This happened on Monday.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone know how they are financing that?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WARIOOOOOOOOOOOORS

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Max Power  
Years ago

All adding Oakliegh to the Big V will do is dilute the quality of the league. The have only been around for 2 years so how could the possibly have 'their own' juniors. This will only encourage poaching.

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Triton 56  
Years ago

Agreed! Surely the Big V has to stop putting in Melbourne clubs and start looking towards the return of some of the country clubs who have had an important part play in making the Big V what it is.

I hoipoe the Big V realise this before it goes to the point of becoming a metro comp.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Big V AGM has come and gone and no Oakleigh...

Will thye ever enter the league?

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

A few facts.

The Oakleigh Warriors have its history going back to 1995 and won't be changing the name, we are kind of attached to it.

We have plenty of juniors. In fact we have a bigger and better junior base than many current BIG V clubs. We have produced two VC teams in past 2 years, will produce another one this year and are aiming for at least three next year.

Since moving into GESAC their membership numbers have exploded with growth of 600%

They are not paying anybody and building their squad around their youth and some locals. They will enter the BIG tourney in 2013 and prepare through the MMBL for a 2012 submission.

We are club definetly on the move, that once in will develop into a force in the BIG V. Should have been granted entry this year IMO. A years more preperation won't hurt.

Being built from the ground up by Bob Mann and his coaching staff, it will be exciting when it happens.

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

Sorry that should have read a 2014 submission.

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Champ  
Years ago

Warrior Boy, in the 1990's the Oakliegh team was known as the Wolves. I know that for a fact and can even show you what the old uniform looked like as I have one.

The nick name 'Warriors' is from a domestic club that was at McKinnon called 'Garden State Warriors'. When Bob Mann was shafted by McKinnon, and he was even tho i dont really like the guy, he took them to the Oakleigh Rec Centre that was run by the monash council and came to power through the 'AGM' that was able to be held for the first time in years. The Oakliegh Association then incorporated the members, uniform and nickname of the G.S.Warriors.

Bob then had the inside running for the the Glenn Ira stadium through information gained when working for McKinnon.

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Champ  
Years ago

If you are going to take on an association you should be respectful of it's past. Alternatively G S WARRIORS should have gone about creating their own association.

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Mac  
Years ago

Are Oakliegh playing Keysborough D2M this Sunday?

Heard the rumour, but havent seen anything on the net...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Interesting that Warrior Boy did not reply to the comment by champ about.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

sorry meant to say about the wolves nick name.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are they playing this Sunday? Details? Be interesting to see what they are like.

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Hopscotch  
Years ago

Is there a chance that Oakleigh could now take over the spot created by Horsham. I dont know how it works with fixtures etc.

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Anthony  
Years ago

I currently play for warriors, best club

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Anthony  
Years ago

I currently play for warriors, best club

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H  
Years ago

Did the game happen today?

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notlem  
Years ago

OMG I heard Oakliegh beat Keysborough?

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

Dont get on here too often but after post above I thought I would go straight the horses mouth and hunted down Bob for his version of events. He is always up for a talk about bball.

Oakleigh used to be known as Wolves, but the new exec chose to go with the Warriors, as all their kids who were going to play rep had warrior uniforms already.

When Bob and his crew went to the AGM nobody turned up so they were elected, there was no coup, in fact quite the opposite had Bob and his supporters not dropped in for the AGM, Oakleigh would have folded. Since then it has gone from strength to strength.

In three years they have gone fron 40 members to 850, from four rep teams to 18, have had teams qualify for VC already and have more set to do so, have secured GESAC and yes they beat Keysie by 2 points in front of a packed house of 300 people.

BIG V where are you you should be knocking on their door to replace Horsham, great venue, competitive team, great passionate supporters and a great junior program thats is just getting better. Put them in!!!!

To champ - Not sure if bringing a club back from the dead and getting them to play top level basketball is disrespecting it's past, rather than securing it's future. Do you know Bob? he is a champion bloke in my opinion who has worked miracles at two clubs now. He didn't hesitate to answer my questions.

Out of curiosity whats your beef with him?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did the Big V put Oakleigh in?

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Melbourne Boy  
Years ago

No, refused at the AGM end of last year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Big V needs to stop bringing in new clubs and focus on building brand strength and quality. The level of competition is slowing dropping off and needs to be addressed. The merging of SEABL DL and YL is a great thing and will strengthen that comp as well as Champ but D2 and YL2 are weak and are based on participation models.

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All I can say is well done Bob Mann was wondering when you would turn up again. Have worked with Bob before and did not always see eye to eye. I have to say one think I know about Bob is he loves basketball and will not rest until he gets back to the Big V

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Qwertyuiop  
Years ago

I saw that game against Keysborough (who were at full strength) The Oakliegh team was missing 2 guys who would have been in the starting 5. With those 2 and more game time they would have beaten them by at least 15-20 points. I'm not bagging Keysborough as I think they are v good but this proves to everyone that Oakliegh should be in the league (and probs Divy 1). All the players in the team had committed to playing for Oakliegh for the year and now have missed out on playin for the club at in Big V

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why are people bagging Bob? He works so hard to help promote the sport. We should be supporting him. The only reason Oakliegh is not in Big V is cos McKinnon don't want them in as they are a threat to them. People from McKinnon are involved in running the Big V

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Champ  
Years ago

A shame 'Warrior Boy' just dismisses the fact that the Oakliegh Wolves existed.

Big pitty Bob didn't try to get some sort of link to the Wolve. That IS disrespectful for all the people that put in time and effort in the club years ago.

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T  
Years ago

I think the big v needs more teams called Warriors. Lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Question...
If Oakliegh were serious about going into the league for 2014 and game against Keysborough was a bigger success than the Sydney Olympics, there are plenty of Big V, VYC, YL teams that can't find a game, when is their next game?

Surely they would be having a few of them.

Please let us know.

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Jack black  
Years ago

My YL side is looking for a practice game.

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Panther City  
Years ago

If Oakliegh are interested in a hit they should contact Wallan could be a bit of fun.

http://www.facebook.com/WallanPanthersBasketball

2 potential future Big V clubs.

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Hang in their Bob Mann I know you can achieve what no else has done that is build 2 clubs from stratch and build them in to Big V clubs

Got my full support Bob

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What's with all of this stuff about Bob. The post was about a club not a bloke

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Oakleigh Warriors and Bob Mann are the one thing

Oakleigh Wariors is Bob Mann & Bob Mann is Oakleigh Warriors

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Q  
Years ago

Bobby Man!,,

One the biggest characters in the Big V

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Q  
Years ago

When he gets back in of course :)

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xxx  
Years ago

Heard a rumour that Oakliegh is going to be playing in the Big V tourney. Any truth to this?

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anon  
Years ago

Oakleigh will be in the tournament. After being knocked back 3 years in a row now the Warriors are hoping to take the path that Shepparton took last year by proving they are serious about re-entry to the league. Step 1 the tournament.

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Looking forward to seeing Bob Mann coaching again...Hope you make it back to the Big V Bobby

Like the Pheniox Bob Mann has risen from the ashes

People at McKinnon living off all Bobs hard work

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thats sensational news!!!!

Can someone keep us updated with Oakliegh's progress.

Looking forward to seeing Bobby Mann back developing talent and building a champion team.

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hoopstar  
Years ago

What divy are they going top be playing at Frankston

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think D2M

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can people with inside the Oakleigh club please keep us in formed with the senior team is playing as I am sure a lot of bobs old foes would love to get down and support him


Here is an intresting situation Bob Mann and Bill Raunchy get together what a great starting pair for any club

Yes I know Bill is at Sandringham was just a thought

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Ariel  
Years ago

Oakliegh could not afford Bill pay cheque.

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That could be true Ariel but imagine a club with Bill Raunchey and Bob Mann together united want to join the Big V do you believe the League would say no to that much experience in developing, recuriting, administrating and genenerally running a basketball club ...lots of years experience

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Touney fixture has come out Oakliegh are in D2M

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Touney fixture has come out Oakliegh are in D2M

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

Nice to see some support for the Oakleigh Warriors and Bob Mann.

However I feel the need to dampen expectations. In the game against Keysie, the Warriors had rings in to help their young squad in Ivan Platenik from Waverley and Shawn King and Darren best from Chelsea.

Those three were simply doing Bob a favour in suiting up. They are not committed to the Warriors for the next twelve months as said in a previous post. Would be nice if they were.

While entered in the BIG V tournament, the Warriors will be going in with an extremely young squad, as their older players all have other commitments over the long weekend. They are playing in the tournament apparently as they have been told this is one of the things they need to do to gain entry into BIG V. That and play in the MMBL.

Strange criteria, but you do what you have to. They will play in the tournament but the team will bear little resemblance to the team that they will enter ultimately into the BIG V.

Bob's intentions are to mix a talented young squad with some more experienced bodies and minds to build a competitive squad as he did in his years at McKinnon. So don't expect a lot form the boys this weekend, they will certainly compete hard but will probably struggle against older and stronger teams.

Anybody looking for a game should contact Bob his details are on their website at www.warriorsbasketball.org

One thing I do agree with posters above it will be great to see Bob Mann treading the boards again.

BTW who are the people from McKinnon involved in running the BIG V? If that's the case they should not be involved in assessing the Oakleigh application, it should be judged on it's merits alone.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How did Oakliegh go in the Big V tournament?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They hot smashed in all 4 games they played. Closest losing margin was 25 points.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WOW.

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

Yes was a battle, but as posted earlier, most of the side they would have liked field in this tournament were away and they were forced to play pretty much their U18 squad and nealy all of them were bottom age so turning 16 this year.

So Boys versus Men really and the results showed.

Had competitive efforts against Keillor and Coburg but really struggled against Casey and Hawthorn youth who pressed them throughout the match and the Oakleigh Guards just gave up the ball.

Had to play the tournament though to be considered for 2014, though they didn't really want to as they knew a lot of their squad would be unavailable over the weekend.

Hope that isn't held against them for their submission for 2014 as that would be a little ridiculous, considering only two and possibly three of this squad would go on to play for them at BIG V level in 2014.

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The Truth  
Years ago

So, if that is the case Oakliegh should wait until their players are men before entering them in a men's comp.

If all you could put on the floor were 16 year olds then you should not be applying. What are you going to do? Poach players from other clubs????

Seriously why bother? Just wait. Please don't go taking players from other clubs for your first year.

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The Truth  
Years ago

Not being a smart Alec but would like to see "warrior boy" reply.

What is the plan?

The silence is defining.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He's probably wondering how your reading comprehension could be so bad! Go back and read what he wrote again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What was written is that a lot of their squad was unavailiable, probably cos they belong at other associations.

Oakliegh does not have enough players to put a team together.

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

To "The Truth", I don't spend my entire life on forums, just come back to them every week or every second week.

However, what a silly comment about poaching players.

(1) As though it doesn't happen already
(2) As Anonymous said Reply #409634 reread my
previous posts, it was pretty clear on why
we entered with such a young squad.
(3) We have plenty of older/more experienced
players set to play, some with previous BIG V
experience, some from their domestic open age
comps and none currently playing BIG V.
(4)If/When accepted and we hold tryouts and
players from other clubs come knocking on our
door because they are not happy at current
clubs, do you expect them to turn them away.
Players only leave clubs if they are looking
for greener pastures. If they are happy they
wont go. If there wasa no poaching criteria in
BIG V, there would be no BIG V. Happens every
season.

While we struggled in the tournament, the addition of more experienced players and bigger bodies will change things dramatically for us. One thing we did note was that the standard of Div 2 men's wasn't what it was even only a few seasons ago judging by what we saw.

Finally a number of our older players had all bought tickets to future for that long weekend and weren't available, that saw seven players who would normally play unavailable. A fair chunk out of any team.

There is also some murmurings of an import. Will have to wait and see on that one.

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paul  
Years ago

While the standard may have dropped, I wouldnt judge too much from the tournament one week out from the season where few teams are putting their best foot forward.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Would Oakliegh enter under the condition of not signing any player who played Big V this year (2013) for another club?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Oakliegh are serious about getting into Big V they need to be getting exposure about it NOW.

Never see any articles about their desire to play at this level or anything like that.

Would love to know more about whats going on with them.

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

To Anonymous on reply #411131, has any other club in BIG V ever had to endure such a condition. That so silly it's hard to believe you are even posting it.

If we conduct tryouts which will happen (like every other club will) and a player comes to us who isn't getting minutes at his current club and is looking for an opportunity elsewhere to further his basketball, you would seriously want that player denied that chance through us?

Or even a major player not happy with his current arrangement lobbed in on our tryouts and wanted a game, you are seriously saying we shouldn't be able to look at him for our roster?

If your club had to sign such a condition what would it say?

All a little silly.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Warrior Boy aka Bob Mann, would you rather not enter the Big V if entry was conditional to not having players who played Big V in 2k13, as opposed to entering with that condition (which I suggest is fair)?

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.  
Years ago

was very impressed with the oakleigh junior teams here in adel over easter - well drilled and coached - nice parents to boot - a definite club on the up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well poached!

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!  
Years ago

Tom Burns and Nick Richards who currently play at Chelsea have also agreed to play next year if Oakliegh enter the league.

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Warrior Boy  
Years ago

lol, some of the crap that gets put onto forums is very amusing.

Also amazing how this thread just keeps on going. No I'm not Bob Mann though I get plenty of info from him. I don't need to be that bald or fat at my age (no disrespect to Bob). I simply read the initial post and responded to a request with info about the club.

To Anoynomous, to me that proposal you are putting forward is simply stupid. Simple question would all other clubs have that restriction to their tryouts?
If not, then how can clubs compete on a level playing field when some clubs have no restrictions while other clubs do?

If you think this is "fair" then our understanding of that word is vastly different.

Not really an issue at our end anyway, as I said previously, players are being drawn from both junior ranks and open age comps conducted by Oakleigh, but the club will no doubt hold tryouts if accepted into BIG V, which is their main focus first and foremost.

We will cross the bridge of tryouts and new players then, at which time I am pretty sure Bob will want to have a pretty settled squad by then.

A laughable comment about Tom Burns and Nick Richards. Both now playing happily at Chelsea, doubt either would think about going to Oakleigh and they certainly haven't spoken to anybody at the club about it. For heavens sake the club hasn't even been accepted into the BIG V yet

As for the gimp who put "well poached". Pretty cheap shot, have the guts to name one player that you believe has been poached. Be even more gutsy and name the club you are involved with.

All our players have been developed from local ranks or rejected by other clubs and have come to Oakleigh looking for another shot.

At the same time we have certainly lost players to other clubs in dubious circumstances.

Be back in a week, to provide any more feedback if required.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

When you come back in a week, would love to know why you only wanted to play one exhibition game (v keysy) but didn't want to play anyone else?? For instance McKinnon is not far down the road.

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Pallas 97  
Years ago

Been a long time since we have had Warrior Boy on here lol

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Warriors Boy  
Years ago

Been a while.

Some quick answers to post above.

We played that game against Keysie and we then played the BIG V tournament and have been playing MMBL since, as asked by the BIG V.

Since other clubs are in the middle of their BIG V season, I don't think anybody would be interested in exhibition games while "in-season". If they are they should contact the club.

Not sure either that McKinnon would be interested due to their politics, hopefully that will happen in a BIG V season in near future. It would certainly draw a bumper crowd.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Your kidding your self if you think Oakleigh will play MCK anytime soon.

MCK will be playing SCM next year and Oakliegh will be lucky if they are even playing in the Big V at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If McKinnon move up to championship Mr Chambers better start looking for a new team or somehow play Youth League.
He is terrible at D1 level, was terrible at D2 level.

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A  
Years ago

Maybe he can play at Oakliegh lol

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A  
Years ago

He could play at Oakliegh. That might be part of the deal to let them in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

SCM for McKinnon, lol, what a joke that would be, they aren't evn dominating Div 1 and have rubbish juniors coming through.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is this is about Oakliegh or McKinnon??????

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So I heard over the weekend that the league is going to be restructuring at the end of the year and merging D1 and D2 then making it based on geographical conferences to reduce travel.

That would open it up for new teams you would think.

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Taxman  
Years ago

Nick Richards WILL be playing for Oakliegh next year IN Big V

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HO  
Years ago

#420315

If true then the league office has totally lost the plot. Its bad enough with what they have allowed to happen in D1.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

HO,
What would you suggest as the solution. D2 to have conferences or return to D3?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

By the way I agree way too many teams in D1 and the gap between top and bottom is massive.

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Vesta  
Years ago

D2M is the most even comp the league has seen in years! Fantastic to follow. Anyone can beat anybody on any night. Love it!!

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HO  
Years ago

I would have stayed with three divisions - it bridges the gap between MMBL and CBL much better. the best team in CBL wanting to move up can likely do that without recruiting the crap out of other programs.

Here is the problem they have right now. The third placed team in Terrill is 5-7. The LAST placed team in Watson has the same record. Conveniently, they played each other yesterday and the supposedly improved Geelong (cannot believe they have forked out for an import at D1) beat Warrandyte by 3 points with the import scoring 35 for Geelong according to the boxscore.

So far little problem - except - who do you relegate if this trend continues? The last placed team in each conference, or the two with the worst record? The ones with the worst record might theoretically have had a disadvantaged draw - they might have drawn the top four from the other group for example..

You cannot work promotion and relegation properly with conferences unless you have really stupid conferences like the SEABL do!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

One of the biggest issues with senior basketball in Victoria is the gap between MMBL / CBL and Big
V D2.

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Bear  
Years ago

So HO, you would like to see a level playing field and even competition, correct...?

This is basketball may friend, not going to happen mate!

If conferences are done correctly they should create an opportunity for some cash savings, less travel and more rivalry.

Maybe it is how the conferences are structured, not the fact that we have them??

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HO  
Years ago

No Bear, I said nothing about a level playing field or even competition - not sure where you go that from - no competitions are even - they might be competitive.

I am saying, in answer to a question, that I would have stayed with the original structure of three divisions (below champ) in the BigV.

The conferences at D1 level are stupid. It was dumb enough when the league took D3 and D2 and made a new conference based structure at D2.

Then it moved the conferences up to D1, which means you had a skinny championship division, a skinny d2 and a fat d1 - that is just a really poor structure.

This year they have fattened up championship a little, but kept D1 really fat - and they have a pretty poor competition as a result. Poor planning, poor long term thinking and poor pathway.

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HO  
Years ago

And I owe an apology, apparently Geelong have not "forked out" for their American - he is just in town. A friend of mine involved with Geelong just barreled me via text!

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Bear  
Years ago

True HO, he was at Corio Bay but didn't quite fit the structure and Geelong got a call, so he found another home nearby, Geelong didn't chase him, your buddy was right...

I think you have a good point on how the current set up is, not something I would try to fix, seems like a difficult task made harder when you take into account the nature of the sport and how teams can vary so much from one season to the next.

3 Divisions under Champs could work but conferences I believe could also work if they are done correctly, big if I would suggest??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To be honest to go back to 3 Divisions under Champ would be the best thing to do.

Agree the issue is that teams change soooo much every year and the fact of the matter is that teams change massivly from when the league meets in November to when the comp actualy starts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I say go back to Champ, D1, D2 + D3

That way it helps out the teams that have to begin to rebuild.
D3 would be a perfect solution for rebuilding teams.
D2 could be the biggest (most teams) Division with teams pushing to be promoted for D1.
D1 a 10 team division that would make every game a tough one!

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J  
Years ago

I agree!

The best thing you could do is have the SCM D1,D2,D3 that way teams can re-group and rebuild.

Maybe take the top teams from the current D2 and pu them in with the bottom third of D1 and then you can bring in another 2 or 3 teams.

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J  
Years ago

Also back to Oakliegh. Bob Mann is a very good coach and I think that he would have Oakliegh firing no matter what divy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Have not heard from Warrior Boy for a while. Just sayin

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X  
Years ago

have spoken to Bobby Mann and Oakliegh are a lock in for next year. They have even started training.

Good stuff!

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VP  
Years ago

I hope Oakleigh reconsider their Logo as a "Warrior" with two Big V Clubs already playing under the name in Div 2 with Maccabi & Pakenham.

They even have Domestic teams playing as Warriors while there junior Rep teams also playing under the Warrior banner.

Now playing in Bentleigh at GESAC right in the heart of McKinnon.

Very confusing.

Oakleigh use to be called the Wolves many years ago!

It would make more sense to have a link the Oakleigh history rather than use the old Garden State Warriors domestic logo.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Surely they would change their logo and nickname. Prove they are big enough with who they are to do that and enter the league.

If they are too insecure that things like that are non-negotiables then perhaps they should not be in the situation of applying for Big V.

In the AFL Port Adelaide had been the Magpies and played in Black and White for 100 years. They changed to the Power.

I know there are plenty of people who wwould love to see Oakliegh return to their origanal colours and the 'Wolves'.

Just thoughts.

Good luck to them hope they return (as the Wolves lol)

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Tex  
Years ago

No-one in their right mind would oppose their club reverting back to a name like that in this situation

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Anonymous  
Years ago



Except the 500 members who have invested in uniforms and merchandise to support their club.

Wont be the first time this has happened. McKinnon Cougars and Keysborough Cougars for example. Played in the same division for years and used it to play off for the Cougars Cup. Still do!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard a rumour over the weekend that Oakleigh were going to apply for youth league in their application. They have some decent young talent so that would be a great move.

If true it would make irrelevant plenty of the posts on this thread.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh yeah great idea, develop them to go..... Where is their senior team?

What develop them in YL to be promoted to play MMBL. Kidding right?

If the club can't field a D2 team at the very least then dont bother.

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Q  
Years ago

That would be silly to go straigt into YL

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HO  
Years ago

I didn't think you were allowed to be in BigV Yl unless you had a senior BigV team first. (or a senior team playing SEABL)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You're not

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And rightfully so

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Tj9  
Years ago

Are they in?

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VP  
Years ago

Have to wait until after the AGM in November.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What are their chances?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rules have changed and apparently you can go straight into Youth League.

If you have a young squad loaded with players 23 and under (which they do at Oakleigh) why wouldn't you take that option. A year or two of development before banging bodies with mature ones.

Makes a lot of sense to me.

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B  
Years ago

What Agm did the rule change? I have access to all the minutes from the last 12 AGMs.

The league cannot just simply change a rule. It must go through the process.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

News just out, Oakleigh has been endorsed by BIG V to join the league in 2014. Congratulations to them!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great to see Oakliegh entering the Big V.

Well done Bob Mann for countless hours of hard work!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Saw Oakleigh smash mornington on the weekend by 29 points in a pre-season game.

They were pretty impressive. They are lead by a Canadian import who dominated, but also had support from a couple of other bigs. Have two bigs both about 6-7 with another two around 6-5 and have some terrific young kids in the mix.

They played a 13 year old who scored 5 points in his first 30 seconds on the court and lit up the crowd.

They were pretty exciting to watch for a D2 team. Other teams may want to watch out they will be tough to beat.

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Rabbit  
Years ago

How do we think Oakleigh will perform?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Think they have Pakenham fist game?

If true that will be a huge 'Welcome to Big V' They'll be lucky to get within 40points

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Anonymous  
Years ago

7 games in Oakleigh have a 4-3 record and are sitting in top 4. Performing above expectations by the looks of things!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seen a few games, there import seems to be a locker room problem, really lets it fly at his team mates on the court, not a good look at all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Few over rated imports in the Div 2 mens comp, but at least it is watchable unlike Div 2 womens comp, it really is a terrible standard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To clarify, I haven't seen Kaban play so the over rated import comment is not directed at him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Well done Oakleigh on a great first up year.

Received their fair share of crap but performed on court and probably did better than anyone thought.

Great stuff Bob.

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