36ers will win today because every time I place a bet against the 36ers, the 36ers win. So everyone enjoy the win today :)

Dunigan did well against the Hawks but I don't think he will do as well against a big sixers team.

I think Gibson will come out more aggressive to start this one and DJ will be top scorer.

WILDcats 18

Time to get rid of crosswell turnover king he's terrible

Good start by Creek.
Maybe he will get some minutes now...

That call against Creek on that offensive rebound is as bad a call as you can make in basketball. Criminal incompetence!

The charge no call on Dunigan was even worse though. Ref said he flopped lol

Fuck me blow a 7 point lead with 1 minute to go

Think the boys need to go back to mini ball and learn how to hit a foul shot

What a good game in the end!

Why is the crowd so quiet, on TV it sounds like no one is there?

When's the last time that many players have fouled out in a game?

Alex would you turn up if the team can't hit basic foul shots and for fuck sake piss crosswell off that foul shot airball was the end for me and hurry up and get a scoring import

As a wildcats fan so happy were down and out all game. Good teams win those sort of games. Another sack Marty week of talk on here I'm sure. Go cats

Nathan Croswell runners Vs Brad Robbins dribbling into the key and doing fck all but turnover.

Which is worse?

Adelaide missed free throws Vs Perth missed layups and put backs.

Which is worse?

What does it matter, its all MOOT...Lets the sack Marty threads BEGIN....3...2...1

Moon, you might wanna watch that Dunigan flop again. Embarrassing.

Dunigan seems a perfect fit for the Cats. He certainly slops and throws his elbows like a Wildcat.

Shattering loss.

You know who we could have done with? Massingale.

Weigh 43 mins 1/5 FG, 6rbs, 8 pts.

Creek 23 mins 6/11 FG, 7 rbs, 13 pts.

Does anyone think Creek can introduce Clarke and Radford to his mother and be retrospectively instated as a 'lovechild'?

FFS about time Creek got some decent minutes for a change & didn't he produce! With Schenscher stuggling so bad of late why wouldn't we look at DJ at the 5 & moving Weigh to the 4 & bringing Creek in at the 3 spot. Creek is a terrific rebounder for his size & his athleticism in the open court is something the 6ers currently lack especially in offensive transition!

Quiet crowd . Quieter than normal But Creek and Petre very popular with the crowd .
Crosswell struggling .
Quality players fouled out , the love child unable.

Succinct but accurate, Camel.

22-45, I think we are done now surely with this situation?

Think Weigh should go back to where he came from..Whole game WTF. Bad assessment of talent..DAMN RIGHT

My main issues were late in regulation crosswell was running the point not gibson and how late (5 mins?) did it take for marty to get creek in late to go on Lisch. Why not have gibson and creek with crosswell to the bench and bring him on once/if we get players in foul trouble then.

Also late we have no real set plays we just run some kinda freelance system that breaks and gets us forced shots.

It was a unique situation with that many players getting bounced but some of the decisions left much to be desired. Still will be there next week, hope the coach wont.

Ignoring the foul shots, I thought the players threw so much into this game and for the most part did well. Certainly could've used Massingale, funnily enough. Should've played Pero earlier and a touch more to soak up fouls. Very tough loss in the end, losing such key players.

Watching live and without the benefit of replays, so many calls from the refs were thoroughly baffling. And so odd that almost every one of the disqualifying fifth fouls was soft.

Weigh got bulk minutes because he is a pretty capable defender. Many fans under-appreciate Tovey, but he's played a fair few minutes, and his team are one of the best around. He's smart and plays his role, and coaches love that even if fans don't.

Highlight was that patch from Creek with awesome defense, contributing on offense and that great block from out of the pack.

Thought the players deserved a win today, and they must be gutted. Would've been crushing if they'd been booed.

First time to see mark and Marty screaming at their players in defender. Hopefully they knew that was the last game if we let that one slip

Just don't understand why we would have Weigh guarding Lisch in OT when we have Creek on the court. Also Croswell I think its time to retire buddy

Maybe Clarke is betting on the opposition & making a small fortune! Even though the wildcats hit some big shots down the stretch 36ers should never had lost it. They tightened up & definitely lack direction. Looking fwd to Boti's article tomorrow.

It must be frustrating in that locker room...

And petrie u r 6 down with 30 secs remaining what do u do? C'mon u r smarter than that!!

Weigh had to stay on - he was by FAR our best defender (apart from Creek and maybe Petrie). Weigh actually did an exceptional job defensively this game

Took a mate along today who had never been before. One thing he commented on was the playing style differences.

Adelaide: In offence fluffed around the arc, then shot the ball.
Perth: Dribble drive penetration all the time to test the defence.

Luke didn't look confident with the ball. What's wrong with if there's a clear path to goal - GO! There's this thing called a dunk. Looks like Marty has to him to dish off every time.


I'm sorry Marty, but you need to change your game day coaching style and keep game plays simple to let things flow and let the guys think, or just go.

Weigh has great size for a 3 man & can defend. Not sure if his minutes are the problem. I'd play him heaps as well. A coaching change now could still give u a sniff of a c/ship. Not sure what's stopping the move. most under performing pro coach i've heard of?

the players are not the problem besides perhaps crosswell who humiliated us with foul shot and dumb turnovers non stop. Anyhow Clarke cannot coach NBL atlest not successfully, i would be happy with many other options....smythe

Jeff, I know you were at the game today because I saw you with Isaac and Ben.

The Sixers were up by 7 with a minute and 2 seconds to play. In your opinion, where did the Sixers go wrong today? What do they need to do (or not do) to stop these games from slipping through their fingers?

Watching the end of regulation again was there really a moment when we lost it, or was it a case of Perth taking it?

Jeff Dowdell (Anon #391235)

Your point may be well made but don't tar all of the people who post on this and other sites with a single brush. Also, sit yourself in teh shoes of a fan who has supported the 36ers for almost 30 years and whose entry fees are a large part of what helps the club to survive. Passionate fans who truly care for the 36ers are very frustrated.

Roosevelt also said "It is by no means necessary that a great nation should always stand at the heroic level. But no nation has the root of greatness in it unless in time of need it can rise to the heroic mood." Replace "nation" with "team" and this is what many fans are looking for in the the 36ers. The ability to rise to the occasion and emerge triumphant. Today was a great chance for them to do that and they fell short.

Sadly, over the last few years, they have repeatedly fallen short. I for one don't believe the players, the coaches and the rest of the organisation lack heart or lack desire, regardless of the fact it sometimes seems like that. Given that, the failures of the last few years can then only be due to lacking the ability to consistently rise to the occasion and emerge triumphant.

In other words, somewhere in the constellation of players, coaching and administration, the 36ers just haven't been good enough. Moreover, in the last 2 years, they haven't been good enough by a very long way. This is what the fans see and are frustrated to see. Because we care and because of the club's past great achievements, expectations are high and repeated disappointment leads to much of what is read on here.

It's also worth noting that not all of the words you will read on here are misplaced - I'm sure you will agree that your own may be a case in point. There are some well thought out views that are based on well argued theses. If those theses are ill informed then whose responsibility is it that fans don't have access to good information?

finally, remember that the NBL is now a professional sport. It's likely that most of the the 36ers' players and coaches will not be associated with the club in 10 years' time. Hell, only 1 player still is here from 2 years ago! They are professionals and will change employers and careers. But the fans will still be here.

We are here for the club and not for the money or the career opportunities. The return on our emotional investment in the club is the high we get from seeing it succeed and being part of that success, in the stands. So that gives us some rights to be critical shareholders and to demand changes we think will help the club to return to the place we all want it to be - the most successful NBL club ever.

So thanks for your input - it was well put - but don't deny us fans our input too.

I am only the watcher , Jeff. The watcher is not important . Anyways , Weigh fans have a great day out there.

Petrie driving was right move. Was a lane for him to take, and the way refs had called that past couple quarters for Perth, should have been a foul. Hits that layup and the and one, back in game.

Crowd participation was horrible, as has been all season. That I put on music guy, and announcer though, they need to learn what to play/say and when, it baffles me every game how they continue to do the same thing and get the same result.

Refs didn't help us much with the 3 guys getting fouled out, but that can't be made an excuse.

Guys played their hearts out, despite what the guy 2 rows behind me may think.

Passing was worst its been for us in awhile though. Effectively the biggest issue in the game for us.

Marty however should've once again made better substitution decisions. Daly and Pero at end of 3rd? I thought we had a 20 point lead when they came on, then I looked at scoreboard, 10 point lead!... Creek should've been on most/all of 4th, we needed his defence, and open court offence.

Will say this though, so happy to see we finally have a team again that isn't afraid to play physical and stand up for themselves. It's very refreshing!

Pero and Daly on at the end of the third was because of Gibson and Schenscher having four fouls though wasn't it?

Was it like 42 degress out in the Adelaide today? I could see the tumbleweeds rolling in the bleachers. I know it can get hot out in the A' in the summer but damn that Arena was empty. But I can understand what with the coaching staff issue and all.

HTF do you blow a 6/7 point lead with less than a minute to play!? I turned off the set in OT when Perth was up by around 5 or so with a buck to play.

Two major dissapointments this week, my two teams lost to the team that I just can't fking stand! Although, I've gotta say Dunnigan makes Perth infintely more likeable.

Absolutely shattered.

Blablabla perth this perth that!!! Why every one dislikes perth???? Are they that good and u wish ure team can be as good as us??? Get over ure selves!!!!

Is that Jeff Dowdell supporting the Adelaide coaching staff? Or are you just saying people who have never played or coached at the highest level should not offer an opinion? Surely u know better than anyone what a pair of fools these coaches are?

That offensive foul call on Cadee and then the missed FTs were killers. When Pero was pushing Dunigan rather than watching for the rebound, giving it up to Dunigan, that's when we were effectively done IMO. Loads of pressure for Cadee given that half of the best defensive guards in the NBL were against him at that point.

Weigh's D was pretty strong all game, I thought.

Was the rebound count 30-30 at one point? Means they killed us from that point.

I agree Weigh is a good defender but is he mobile enough to defend Lisch? NO. The biggest issue in where the sixers have lost close games is that they seem scared to shoot bar Johnson and Gibson but I think Gibson doesnt want to seem greedy, compare him to say Kieron Henry (sorry if my spelling is off) he is prepared to shoot when he is on fire where i think Gibson will pass. You cant win a game by passing.

Got to agree, the crowd was extremely disapointing. Is it that they have lost faith? Or are we suffering from the GFC?

When i look back to the days when the sixers won titles they had explosive scorers and imports that could expolde for 20+ points in a matter of minutes. We have the players to explode for a mass of scoring, they just seem scared to shoot. The dribble penetration is working but if you have a shot from outside (Croswell/Cadee) Shoot!

Hopefully something will click and Schensher will gain a length in speed and we might be able to close out some close games

Good luck Sixers

Crowd was 3485
Seems Weigh's D on Redhage and Lisch was pretty good
Aw well.

Best two ref's in the league
Aylen and Butler both in Adelaide along with the short ref who called the strange foul on Creek for the athletic play where his legs were taken out from under him

I expected the Wildcats to win comfortably but I was proud of the Sixer's effort to stay in control for as long as they did, even when Perth took a 2 point lead midway through the last. They clawed back and looked good but Perth's quality showed in the end.

I thought the key moment was Gibson's fifth foul. He had done a fantastic job on Lisch and once off the court the Wildcat's, and particularly Lisch, went up another level. Schenscher's and Johnson's fifth fouls required a miracle and the Sixer's just couldn't keep with them.

Lisch 3's were all class with that one over two defenders in front of the Sixer's bench in overtime one for the highlight reel given the point in the game. I just looked at those around me and said 'no way'. Dunigan was great to watch too, so much personality but also a great power game. Credit due, Perth were too good.

It has been a tough month and especially this past week. I don't feel sorry for Townsville next week, and I'm predicting a blowout win for the Sixers because they showed spirit today which I expect them to carry through to next week.

Could someone please let Croswell know when the Masters Games are on, as that is what he is now only capable of playing in.

Ticket prices are partly the reason why some fans might lean to not attending. It might sound like a bad excuse, but I don't want to pay $25+ to go watch 2 hours of unpassionate ball with the only ones showing some emotion being Gibson and Creek.

Couple that with it being on tv just 30 minutes delayed and I can see why a lot of people would lean towards not going

Ingles, of all the things I would say of that game - it not being passionate is not one of them. Looked to me like the Sixers left it all out on the floor tonight, but ran out of talent with their two best offensive players fouled out. Still shouldn't have blown a 7 point lead with 1:11 on the clock, but that just comes down to a couple of poorly executed plays without Gibson on court.

These Sunday games dont help either.

Watched UFC live and caught the Sixers replay.

Well now.

That went well.

No more with the petition please. It's been posted and anyone who wants to sign it will have. Same goes with the Facebook page being plugged. Fans are perfectly capable of expressing their frustration independently.

What about my petition about too many petitions?

If you think there are too many petitions in this world, go to petitions.com.au/nomorepetitions

How ironic that when we needed someone capable of hitting foul shots or someone to step up and win the game there was no CJ.....

Sixers looked so much better today and the main reason was Gibson was aggressive every quarter, Creek playing big minutes and we actually pushed the ball and got some easy scores from either layups or foul shots.

IMO Weigh was useless in his time of almost 43 minutes. We could have accepted Lisch getting a layup but instead he let him have enough space to hit a 3. Then he had the chance to win it but got scared and instead of shoot it just held it and then when he had no other option forced it up. 6 of his 8 points where from foul shots. Creek should always get his minutes every game. The only reason why he didn't look that bad was because Tovey is an even worse Ghost. Perth will once again not win the title because they have players like Tovey and Robbins not contributing.

Crosswell 17 minutes, 0 points (0-3), 2 turnovers, 1 assist, 2 rebounds and possibly the worst foul shot airball ever in the NBL says it all. Daly would be a better defender and would actually be able to stretch the defense in offense since he can actually shoot the 3.

Gibson did some brilliant defense on Lisch and got him fired up and usually Lisch is useless then. Unfortunately in the second half Lisch settled down. It was a shame Gibson fouled out he really needed to stay in the game however credit for a more consistent game.

Also the umpires where generally good (especially at the start of the game) however there were some really bad calls that went both ways.

PeterJohn
Great post.

KingJames, agree re Gibson's early aggression. Seriously disagree re Weigh, Tovey and Robbins.

Game after game, Bevo starts Tovey and it's for a reason. I feel like the Toveys and Bouchers of the NBL are a test to weed out people who don't understand the game.

Id love to know why Redhage had 4 fouls to his name, with 7 to go, then gets called and the scorebench didnt change it to 5 fouls and subsequently this would have been 5 PF. Might be time to get these fatties off their backside if they can push the right button.

Refs; wow. When the guy in front who loves the refs normally says bad things about them, they must be bad.

Dear Marty Clark; perhaps as members we should all send in our view that you arent the right man for the job and we need someone who can coach.

Many thanks

The foul on Redhage with 7min to go in the last quarter was his fourth. Thats why they didnt change it to 5.

Gibbo & DJ were killing us. If they hadn't fouled out there's no way the Cats get it anywhere near OT IMO. Gibbo in particular was phenomenal. Running things at one end and completely blanketing, and frustrating the hell out of, Lisch at the other.
Must have been a particularly painful loss for that smallish number of 36ers fans that turned up because they were clearly playing the better basketball for most of the game.
Redhage was great for us. Only Wildcat who looked remotely dangerous over the first 35 minutes or so. Hire & Tovey were valuable too, and while Dunigan missed some absolute sitters (at least a couple of which he should have just dunked) I was impressed with his ability to stay in the game, because we sure as hell needed him once Redhage & Wagstaff were fouled out.

Don't know what the hell got into the refs today. Could hardly ask for a better crew, but they did a terrible job.

It's noticable the difference Adelaide plays with against Perth opposed to against other teams, we seem to play quicker get it down the court kind of basketball. We have a talented bunch, I feel like they're restricted by Marty's game plan and tactics, they need to play more like the 36ers under Smyth did run and gun type style backing the players to be the talented people they are. These guys are meant to be professionals, not youngsters under development - less cuddling and give them the right to play freely!

You guys all complain about Weigh not scoring, but in Perth he was effective as a spot up shooter, he shoots the three at 44% yet nothing is run for him. 34 3 point shots in 11 games, compare that to pc from the Crocs who hasn't been great by any stretch, but has put up 67 3 point shots at 34% in 12 games. If you are going to play your best three point shooter (who is also a great defender and rebounder)35 minutes regularly get the guy some open looks ffs.

Seems Tovey was gonna start and Weigh off the bench , over there. A highly paid player here , playing the most minutes - surprised he wouldn't take the shot from 6foot and passed to Pero , for no result , in overtime , with quality players fouled out , thought the marque player could step up.

Its a shame but fact is, the club just doesnt have the money to pay out clarkes contract and then get another coach. They are aware of what we think... but when your basicly getting by on this skin of your teeth financially its very hard to find money to do these things, he will be gone next season.

And regardless of the result or Clarke's coaching, yesterday's game was great entertainment.

kr, it is oncorrect to say that Weigh effective here in Perth as a spot-up shooter. His one go-to move was backing down a smaller defender on the baseline and hitting a turn-around jumper on him. As a shooter everyone goes on about his great form but he was never reliable, and was forever in & out of the starting lineup because he didn't contribute much else. Frankly I still don't know what his strengths are. He is strictly "ok" in several facets of the game, which makes it difficult to define a role for him.

Aw , versatile .
Still , SOS gonna make me lonesome , if they go .

Dan, good honest defender, knows the plays. I think those are his key things. Not enough to carry a team by any stretch (problematic last year), but I think he can play that Tovey type of role for Adelaide. Good stamina, plays straight up so avoids a few fouls, etc. A lot of people would see a Tovey-comparison as a bad thing, but he's starting and Perth are a successful team. It's not like Bevo is an idiot, babying him through the game for some reason.

The game was entertaining, result aside.

I like recording the game and watching it after seeing it live. There's nothing like watching sport live with the atmosphere, but the TV has other angles that compliment watching it.

I particularly liked watching the foul calls. It's good to see that the refs are right in their own mind! It got me thinking though that for some calls, you almost need a video referral at times (NBA do it)

The problem with Weigh is that he isnt a leader. When things get tough thats when we need our captain to sort shit out and lead from the front..Didnt say either from Weigh. Great defender, dont know about that my point is you cant play a guy for that long who basically contributed squat. As for the rest of the team our turnovers are killing us and our inability to make things happen when the heat is on is disaterous...maybe its got something to do with the offence that even the players describe as complicated!!!

Weigh isn't the captain. He also isn't a vice-captain. Captains are Gibson and Crosswell, and Petrie is vice-captain.

I think its fkn funny that with so many players fouled out, yesterday's game would have been perfect for CJ to coming in FRESH (because he'd have played fk all minutes) and attacked Perth's guards (who have been tired - being their second game of the weekend and OT as well).

But where was CJ?

Ohh..

Id hope a guy who plays 43 out of 45 minutes offered some leadership. 1 field goal from a guy who does love to shoot in so much playing time isnt good. Defense is one thing got to bring it at both ends to be a star.

Agree about Massingale. If Marty didnt send him home they would have won that. For that decision alone Marty has to go.

Weigh was capitain last season , that's why people are confused . They're confused about a lotta things.
This is the guy that was gonna drag all these fans in thru the door .