other contenders

Paul Mayley
Chris Anstey
Daryl Mcdonald
Sam Mckinnon
Brad Newley
Jo Ingles
Ebi Ere
Butch Hayes

also, should any of the current Nbl players make this list?

No Ricky Grace on your lists = I see how you got your name

nah that's an error, I thought of Ricky early on in the list but somehow forgot to type his name

He is there for sure, instead of Shane Heal

Another up there is Paul Rogers

I think my top 10 is close to on the money though, right?

Andrew vlahov. Dwayne McClain.Lanard Copeland.

Robert Rose.

James Crawford and Cedric Jackson have to be in the mix!

Andrew Gaze
Ricky Grace
Leroy Loggins
James Crawford
Robert Rose
Lenard Copeland
Daryl McDonald
Cedric Jackson
Mark Davis
Al Green

Its no coincidence that most of the greatest players played in the 90's

Terry Dozier Chris Jent Dwayne McClain Darryl McDonald Rob Rose Leroy Loggins Ricky Grace Chris Williams James Crawford Derek Rucker

Depends if you count guys who were amazing players but only stayed for a year or thereabouts and therefore don't have much of a legacy in the league.

Anon - re Patty Mills, see Mick's comment and note Mills didn't even play a full season

If we go down the path of one or most of one season players who dominated then left, you get a somewhat different list. You have to think of including unstoppable players like Chris Williams, Tim Dillon, Doug Overton, Julius Hodge etc. Problem is, we don't know if they would have remained unstoppable, as Jackson has proved to be, but other players like Joe Hurst and, to some extent, Derek Rucker proved not to be.

In answer to the original question, I can't stop at 10. There are too many ties.

Derek Rucker was pretty unstoppable right through until he left the Suns. Age slowed him, nothing else really did. Look at those stats from his years as a Sun/Falcon/Bullet. Pretty amazing stuff.

What do you get if you break it down by position? It seems like we have a real concentration in the PG / SG / SF spots, but not too many in the PF / C spots.

Was Bradtke the best C? Was Gaze or Rucker the best PG? Was Penney the best SG?

Put Derek Rucker in his prime against todays imports he would dominate most of them

So tough... like the current Triple J poll. 1990 was the first year I started following the NBL. I put a premium on NBL success too... there have been some great players like Ray Owes & Doug Overton, but they stayed only for a season or two.

Okay here's mine:
Steve Woodbery
Ricky Grace
Andrew Gaze
Brett Maher
Mark Bradtke
Rob Rose
Andrew Vlahov
Darryl McDonald
Shane Heal
James Crawford

I did have Loggins in there, but took him out. He undoubtedly is an NBL great, but his best years & championships were in the 80's. The D-Train sure was great, but wasn't here long either (& when he came back to the Bullets, his best years were behind him).

As Bullets fan from 1990, it hurt a lot to list so many Wildcats players; but their record stands. I loved Derek Rucker... and to be sure, it was because of his electric play that got me hooked on a BBall. He didn't have the wins unfortunately.

I loved watching Rucker play but Ricky Grace toweled him up almost every time they played on each other. Thats why i chose to leave him out of my list with ricky in there.

I agree with the point about factoring in longevity in the league when choosing an all time list. Considering omitting Jackson purely for this reason.

It doesn't sit right with me that i dont have scott fisher and mark bradke in but its impossible to narrow it down to only 10.

1.brett maher(true champion)

2.d rucker( lightning speed and control)

3.rob rose(changed the game for me in terms of highlights and finnes)

3. paul reese (always gave 110%)

4. john rillie (may be spelt wtong sorry, one of the best 3 point shooter ive seen)

5. mark bradtke (Just dominated the 5 spot for many years)

6.shane heal(hate to say it)

7. mark davis (made basketball in SA a respected sport)

8. d-mac ( unreal match up when dmac and mahersy faced of)

9.l loggins( just repected him for his level of play over so many years)

10. Leroy loggins ( ni ine may agree but he was the reason I first watched a basketball game and I can say I had a man crush on him lmao. FLASHY AND STYLE!!! AND MAN HE COULD THROW THEM DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!)

no andrew gaze in your top 10 playa you crack me up

From all the comments above, the players mentioned several times:

Darryl McDonald
Rob Rose
James Crawford
Leroy Loggins
Ricky Grace
Andrew Gaze
Brett Maher
Derek Rucker
Mark Bradtke
Mark Davis
Shane Heal
Al Green
Andrew Vlahov
Cedric Jackson
Dwayne McClain
Lenard Copeland

Single mentions:

Brad Newley
Butch Hayes
Chris Anstey
Chris Jent
Chris Williams
CJ Bruton
Darnell Mee
Ebi Ere
Jo Ingles
John Rillie
Kirk Penney
Paul Mayley
Paul Reese
Paul Rogers
Sam Mckinnon
Scot Fisher
Steve Woodbery
Terry Dozier

For my 2 cents, the final contenders to be discussed are:

1. Brett Maher
2. Mark Bradtke
3. Mark Davis
4. Rob Rose
5. Darryl McDonald
6. Andrew Gaze
7. Shane Heal
8. Al Green
9.CJ Bruton
10. Sam Mckinnon

Andrew Vlahov
James Crawford
Leroy Loggins
Ricky Grace
Derek Rucker
Cedric Jackson

I think there needs to be at least 100 games of service played as well, maybe 200?

@captain peacock, its only my opinion! ive never been a Gaze fan! you could argue that half a dozen other players I missed out on. so clap clap peacock

Perhaps 5 seasons or more to make main list and a separate list for one or two season wonders for example Overton or Chris Williams. I like jacks selections

JERRY DENARD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1. scott christopherson. (srs)

1. Rose

Daylight

2. Maher
3. Grace
4. D-Mac
5. Mee
6. Gaze
7. Logins
8. Rucker
9. Heal
10. Bradtke

In no order and with certainty it would probably be different tomorrow and Ive left out someone Ill regret!

Gaze
Grace
Bradkte
Anstey
Rose
Overton
Williams
Penney
Jackson
Mackinnon

When that happens they can replace Overton because he clearly shouldn't be on the list.

Penney!

Overton was quite simply superb in his year in the NBL. He was every bit as good as Grace, possibly better, we didnt get to find out long term because he made a living in the NBA.

Thanks everyone whilst I loved Marcus Timmons, Mike Mitchell, Bruce Bolden, Leon Trimmingham, Tony Ronaldson, Chris Anstey and Melvin Thomas, the fact they weren't mentioned just adds to the greatness of those listed.

I personally loved Steve Woodberry's game and the defensive skills of David Van Dyke and think Kirk Penney doesn't belong but maybe time will change that