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Years ago

allocating a goalie in u 12/14s

Can a player run back and stand on the split line under the basket when all 5 offensive players are in the back court? It was allowed at morphett vale today

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Clydetheglide  
Years ago

Yes

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Correct. Out of interest what team(s) employed this tactic?

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

I assume you are talking about a 4 man offensive / 5 man defence structure?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Forrestville

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

^What age group and division?

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

I have seen it used at a social level by a team that wasn't all that fit. Leave a player in the key, play the 4 man offensive structure and take their chances, then if the other team gets a fast break the "goalie" is there to either slow them down, or deliberately foul as they drive. Bank on the fact they can't shoot FTs. By rotating the "goalie" it means the fouls are shared around.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Unless the player left at one end is injured AND they have no subs then I can see the point. If not, the coach needs to be educated...

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3peat..  
Years ago

Sturt do it regularly..

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@  
Years ago

Offence have 5 in the backcourt bringing ball down. Defence have 4 Manning up and then the 5th defender just runs back in the defensive key. Does that constitutea zone infraction?

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PlaymakerMo  
Years ago

Absolutely not.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

no

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Pauly B  
Years ago

What kind of "coach" would do that? Obviously one that has no interest in developing their players and is only interested in padding their own ego. Disgusting "tactic"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Every team in 12s and 14s do it. Who really cares?
I take it you lost the game so you need something to blame it on?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It is illegal if the player never establishes a legal man to man defensive position once the team gets the ball to the 3 point line. Ie. never guards a player in the 1/4 court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Should learn the rules before coming on here to sook!

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Junior ref  
Years ago

Have been told by UIC that guarding the space under the ring is an infraction of the 'no zone' by-law in juniors. Have seen coaches warned not to do it by other refs and have done it myself.
It's lazy basketball and doesn't teach the juniors how to play, so not a good idea IMO.

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TWA888  
Years ago

Two of the biggest issues debated on coaching in junior basketball seem to be the reliance on zone instead of teaching man to man and teams that press when they are flogging teams and trying to win by as much as possible instead of developing themselves.

What if the new rule became 'if you are up by 20 points or more, you have to play 1/4 court man to man'.

No presses, no going back to zone (which makes it even harder for the losing team to score).

The winning team will have to learn to play man to man- if they suck at it for a while, their games will be closer and they will be able to go back to zone and win if they have to. They won't be punished right away for not knowing M2M.

Eventually they will either get good enough at it to play M2M an entire game or the game will be much closer. If a team is blowing out games by 30-40 playing 1/4crt M2M then they deserve to.

Those teams not winning will have a better chance to be competitive and then can either stick with zone or start learning M2M for when they are in game where they are up by 20+

It's not perfect, but I don't think any solution will be. All we can do is push these coaches to use M2M (and to ease up on belting teams) without threatening their W/L record that so many are obsessed with. A team pressing/zoning and getting up by 20 in the first 10 minutes then going to 1/4 M2M and winning by 30 isn't perfect but it's better than a whole game of it and seeing a 65-5 scoreline.

Do people think this could work?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

3 second count doesn't start till the ball enters the front court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The correct spelling is Forestville.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

did they win?

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