Steven
Years ago

Cats v Crocs Jan 10th

On paper this is 1st v 8th so you would think Perth will get up. This is Perth's first game against Townsville this season and they have been competitive but coming off 2 road losses I think Perth will win comfortably. Martin will be too much for markovic and Knight is back. Perth by 12.
Thoughts?

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Fewer than 500 seats remain, apparently. Big turnout on the cards.

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Steven  
Years ago

First home game in five weeks will help crowd numbers. Strange scheduling by NBL we play them in Townsville on Sunday

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Statsheet Stuffer  
Years ago

I think you mean Perth by 112^^

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Cats 4 life  
Years ago

Feels like the start ove the season again, along time not to play a game in ure home gym in a season. Hope they bounce back and get the w on sunday perth by a few will be great to see a big turn out!

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Hopefully we won't have to rely on a Matty Knight 3-pt shot to seal this one...

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Rashad  
Years ago

cats by 20. they won't lose 3 in a row. not with this team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This will be a real danger game for the wildcahahahah sorry can't go through with it.
Should be a floggin'

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Mick  
Years ago

7 rebounds at the half. Total. Top effort Crocs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There's no rebounds if they don't miss Mick

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Statsheet Stuffer  
Years ago

Although when Perth's first quarter offensive rebound count is the same as the Crocs first half total rebound count, butts need to be whipped.

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Steven  
Years ago

Great game from Drake U'u. Need more games like that from him or Burdon to help out Martin and Beal

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blazerman  
Years ago

Matt Knight left the game with another knock to the head. Likely to miss the return game in Townsville.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why exactly was he playing, it's the Crocs?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Severe concussion like he supposedly had should have seen him out for several weeks if not more/ Flying him across was bad enough to the Hawks game was stupid. If anything he should have flown home and rested rather then endure 2 long flights, instead of one. Concussion again IMO is mismanagement.

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Mick  
Years ago

Especially when Perth has proven that can beat anyone in the league without him. It's incompetence. You'd never see a serious concussion treated like that in the NBA.

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Steven  
Years ago

Perth can beat the crocs tomorrow without him

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So much ignorance.

None of us know what the assessment was. Maybe they deemed two shorter flights with a break in between was the way to go? We dont know.

They could have got it wrong, no doubt, but the presumption of better knowledge than medical professionals without having done any sort of assessment of the patient ourselves is ridiculous.

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koberulz  
Years ago

You have to be free of symptoms for a week after a concussion in order to be cleared. Knight was suffering symptoms last Saturday, but they worked him out that morning to see if he could play that night.

Flying with a concussion in general is a bad idea. Shorter flights may have been better, but he really should've stayed in Cairns for a few days.

Keep in mind this is the same medical team that cleared Damian Martin to play in the semi finals last year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Again, you think you know better than medical staff who cleared him. What's your qualification?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I can't comment on his qualifications but I can guess that for starters his only vested interest is seeing the players in the league he supports stay healthy, as opposed to being paid to keep players on the court.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Oh yep, a passionate fan, would definitely know more than the staff at a hospital then!

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Anon  
Years ago

Who knew there were so many doctors on this forum.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NO need to be a doctor at all. The new rules on concussion are quite simple and extremely stringent now fully reviewed in 2013.
Its amazing how many anonymous people have an opinion about concussion and know nothing.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Being a doctor is irrelevant. Concussion guidelines are well-publicised.

If I were claiming he had a concussion and the medical staff disagreed, "you're not a doctor" would be valid. But the 'Cats staff have said he had a concussion and was experiencing symptoms on the Saturday. What needed to happen after that is well known, and I'm pretty sure it's an actual rule in the NFL.


FWIW, my brother's football team's medical staff frequently clear him to play, only for him to go to an independent doctor and be told he shouldn't have. They're team doctors, not player doctors, and the team wants its players available. Their job isn't to look after the safety of the players, it's to get them on the field.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Some very butthurt and defensive posts here after this obvious blunder.
Has the Wildcats medico discovered hoops.com.au?

Concussions are no joke and it is really disappointing that basketball is apparently so behind the times and behind the knowledge of the permanent and quite tragic effects it can on victims of these types of injuries.

Glad to hear Knight has been ruled out of the Crocs game, but he really should have been ruled out of both of them in the first place.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NOw the problem is he has 1. been knocked out with possible concussion and 2. now had a concussion again within 2 weeks. Poor decision making in the first instance and in all reality he should miss maybe up to a month.
That of course in unlikely to happen based on the first set of circumstances.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Doesn't mean that basketball is behind the times. Could mean that symptoms mentioned were overstated to fool opposition that he was undersone or the club pushes players too hard.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty hard to overstate being unconscious and taken in an ambulance to hospital. That should have been 2 weeks at the very minimum.
The latter appears very applicable here. If I were Knight I would be finding a different club doctor.

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paul  
Years ago

You hear stories from doctors of how patients regularly turn up with a self-diagnosis because they read about it on the internet or saw it on a TV show.

It's the same thing that is happening here. There are different levels of concussion and they have to be treated in accordance with a medical assessment of the patient.

From the outside I would say Knight, with his history, shouldnt have played, but Im not going to pretend I know better than the range of professional people who would have assessed him and determined 10 days was enough time.

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koberulz  
Years ago

They didn't determine that 10 days was enough time. He was concussed Tuesday, flew Wednesday or Thursday, and worked out Saturday.

He should've missed the Wollongong game, then he would've been good to go on Friday night.

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paul  
Years ago

Outline his workouts and his rehab process the Cats put him through Kobe, how much work did he do each day, what was his recovery afterwards and how did they monitor his symptoms?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was their team doctor on the road.? Doubtful.

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koberulz  
Years ago

"Outline his workouts and his rehab process the Cats put him through Kobe, how much work did he do each day, what was his recovery afterwards and how did they monitor his symptoms?"

They were trying to work out whether he could play. Even if it was just a light workout, the game wouldn't have been.

The fact that he's come down with another concussion already, and played pretty sluggishly on Friday night, lends credence to my side of the argument. Particularly when the other side of the argument just assumes he must be okay, because someone said so. It's not exactly unheard-of for a team doctor to clear someone who shouldn't have been cleared, simply because the team wanted that player.

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paul  
Years ago

It doesnt assume anything, it just points out the obvious fact that no one outside the inner group knows what processes they followed and whether they were right.

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koberulz  
Years ago

They were thinking about playing him four days after he sustained a concussion.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty simple Paul. They were wrong. You don't have to be on the inner circle to know he was knocked out. Far more serious than a mild concussion.
That should be at least 2 weeks if not more. They were wrong. Now he probably should medically be out for a sustained period. One unconscious episode and now apparently one concussion in less than 2 weeks is a very serious matter.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Certainly were wrong "and we'll be guided by the medical advice" Let's hope it's not the same idiots as previously.

http://www.perthnow.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-wildcats-centre-matt-knight-remains-on-sidelines-following-head-knocks/story-fnhq5y0s-1226803334883

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Thankfully Sydney's upset over Adelaide has given us a little breathing room again, so they shouldn't feel too forced to bring him back in early.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Definitely got it wrong.
http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-wildcats-centre-matt-knight-says-he-held-fears-for-future-following-head-knocks/story-fnii0apz-1226804918334

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koberulz  
Years ago

Knight out two more weeks: http://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/basketball/a/20889311/crock-knight-out-for-two-more-weeks/

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