Tom
Years ago

Best coach in NBL history

I am writing a book about the NBL and would like to know the current NBL fans thoughts on the greatest coach in NBL history.

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Darryl  
Years ago

Brian Goorjian

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goorj

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paul  
Years ago

Gordie.

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cat  
Years ago

Kenny

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's a tossup between Gordie and Goorj for me. I'll go with Gordie McLeod though, as he's been able to do more with less talented players in my mind.

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Spinner  
Years ago

Marcus Camby will say Marty Clark was the best!!!

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Young Gun  
Years ago

Goorj... not sure there's any contest as far as results go. There are the usual arguments against him that financial ruin typically followed & that his defensive focus made the league unpalatable to watch as other teams followed his blueprint.

I think Rob Beveridge could have challenged if he had stayed in the league a little longer.

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Train  
Years ago

I'd give Brett Brown and Lindsay Gaze some consideration but i think Goorjian was definitely the most successful.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goorjian, although he was given $$$

For a local coach who usually had limited $ to spend Gordie McLeod.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

give us details about your book kthx

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Mystro  
Years ago

Lemanis ranks a small mention?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

no wtf why would he

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paul  
Years ago

Three championships in eight years. Not too many coaches can match that.

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Jonno  
Years ago

How do people rank Phil Smyth??

I rank him right up there, and wonder if he always had a big budget ala Gorj, whether he would have continued his winning ways.

His success seemed to drop off at a similar time when his roster budget appeared to be slashed, who knows what he could have achieved if he could always have big budget stacked rosters ala Gorj. I reckon he would have been as good/better.

But for a coach that hasnt ever really had a massive budget Geordie McLeod has been sensational, so ill have him as my pick as best coach, being able to win his fair share with budget rosters most years is an amazing achievement and i doubt many others could do it to the same level.

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Anon  
Years ago

Marty Clark

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jonno. No....just no.

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ThebigShow  
Years ago

Gorj and Lemnanis top 2 easy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Goorjian has the highest winning % of any coach in any sport in any league in Australia.

Lindsay would be close.

Westover?

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Wildcat Fan  
Years ago

Goorj for mine,

Geordie, Lindsay Gaze, Bevo, Brett Brown, Lemanis, Adrian Hurley, Phil Smyth, Alan Black, Bob Turner, deserve some recognition but Goorjian for overall success and longevity.

Downside was that his teams were always financially stacked, and he had a habit of losing quite a lot of GF's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brian Kerle rate a mention?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bruce Palmer.

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Sirjump  
Years ago

Goorjian, Lindsay Gaze, then daylight.

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

Its really only Goorj but in the recent times Geordie.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ever: Brian Goorjian

Currently: Joey Wright

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Kendrick Perry  
Years ago

Ken Cole

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Nike Al  
Years ago

Cal Bruton

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Wilson Sting  
Years ago

Is everyone just listing every coach they can remember from the last 30 years?

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Frank  
Years ago

Shane Heal, no contest.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Frank you missed "t in the " between no and contest

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Isaac  
Years ago

I was impressed by that patch when Goorjian brought in a series of college recruits, added imports, and maintained a successful team. Across the threepeat and then the GF loss in the follow up, the Kings were quite reliant on guys like Worthington, Barlow and Kendall after the big name imports were gone and guys like Thornton and Sanford came through. Roberts was a good role-player and he got great mileage from Martin and victory-cigar Carter. Not to mention tackling Crosswhite who became a strong piece in a few successful teams.

IMO, Crosswhite has been a significant loss when removed from his teams. Those defensive bigs like him, Davidson and Knight are so handy.

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MCV  
Years ago

Goorjian.

The question should be: Who is the 2nd best coach in NBL history?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

he was the best at sending teams broke

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paul  
Years ago

Jayson Wells.

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Steve  
Years ago

Does Brian Kerle rate a mention?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Scott Fisher

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Antsy  
Years ago

Brian Kerle - 4 championships in a different era #1
Ken Cole - reaching heights in a short term (1-2 yrs) #1
Brian Goorjian - sustained success #1
Gordie McLeod - getting best from least #1
Joey Wright - NBL currently #1

Lindsay Gaze? Fail. 2 championships in 137 years with 3 Hall of Famers for at least 100 of them. Hell, Al Westover had that many in 5-6 years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lemanis - the worst in history

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Cobra  
Years ago

Not saying the wins are an indication of who the best coach is. But here are the top 10 coaching records, ordered by number of wins then percentage (as of before 2014/15 season):

1. Brian Goorjian 514-221 69.93%
2. Lindsay Gaze 339-312 52.07%
3. Brian Kerle 282-174 61.84%
4. Alan Black 279-218 56.14%
5. Bob Turner 224-145 60.70%
6. Brendan Joyce 217-216 50.12%
7. Phil Smyth 205-160 56.16%
8. Barry Barnes 191-156 55.04%
9. Joey Wright 187-133 58.44% - Active coach
10. Bruce Palmer 184-113 61.95%

Other active coaches:
11. Gordie McLeod 184-225 44.99%
18. Trevor Gleeson 127-96 56.95%
27. Aaron Fearne 68-78 46.58%
38. Shawn Dennis 40-74 35.09%
49. Chris Anstey 28-31 47.46%
76. Dean Vickerman 11-17 39.29%
124. Damian Cotter 0-0 0.00% - last by default

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think win percentage is more important than total number. What was Westovers win percentage?

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Cobra  
Years ago

Alan Westover: 134-74 64.42% (2nd highest win percentage of all coaches with at least 100 wins - behind Brian Goorjian).

My figures above don't seem to match those of Boti's in his season preview, which doesn't surprise me due to the incorrect data being displayed in the nbl archive database.

I downloaded the coaching records a few seasons ago when the nbl website had it up and have been updating it manually ever since, so either I have doubled up on some figures or Boti hasn't updated his to include last season's records (as some of the coaches records have been what I had before last season began).

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paul  
Years ago

By quick calcs, which might be a little off:

Lemanis 149-108 at 58%
Beveridge 105-85 at 55%

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Cobra  
Years ago

I have Beveridge at 104-85 55.03% Paul. But I might be a game here and there off.

Doesn't help that the NBL hasn't given out an update on the coaching record list.

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Wilson Sting  
Years ago

Thanks for the stats Cobra. Can you add championships as a column too?

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Cobra  
Years ago

I could add that, but that will require me to do some serious digging around. I could get most of them, but it isn't as easy as you would think to get all the correct data online. Kind of disappears into a black hole.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Paul Mellett

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Cobra  
Years ago

Anon 496972 - if you are trying to pick the coach with the worst record, you should have said Pete Mathieson (coach of the 1988 Geelong Supercats who went 0-24).

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