Creek will be at Rangers, wanted to play with Montreal.
Chuck Long to Rangers as an Aussie.
Ben Allen couldn't play for Bendigo due to Uni course will be in Canberra.
Odigie sitting SEABL year out.
Chappy rumour to Rangers happens every year.
Been waiting to here where Raiders players will end up any news. Frankston signed United development player.
THE Arena will play host to a basketball bonanza on the final weekend of March.
The McDonald's Geelong Supercats and Lady Supercats will be joined by the men’s and women’s teams from Ballarat, Dandenong, Nunawading and Sandringham, along with SEABL men’s defending champion Mt Gambier and Albury-Wodonga’s women, for the Foton Geelong Pre-Season Weekend.
Matches will be played on both the Showcourt and in the Annexe on March 28 and 29 a fortnight out from the opening of the 2015 SEABL season.
"We are very excited to have some of the best SEABL teams heading to Geelong for this weekend," McDonald’s Geelong Supercats CEO Dean Anglin said.
“Basketball fans will be able to see up to 20 games of top quality basketball all in the one place over the two days.”
Entry is free for 2015 McDonald’s Geelong Supercats members or by gold coin donation for non-members.
The fixture for the Foton Geelong Pre-Season Weekend will be released closer to the date
"As small forward Cameron Bennerman touched down in Tasmania on Tuesday night, club president Steve Lance confirmed yesterday the second import slot had been filled by power forward Kyle Hunt.
Hunt, from Queens, New York, is a 208cm, 104kg big man who is just as comfortable inside the paint as he is from long range.
The 25-year-old is set to arrive in the state at the weekend and will again join forces with Bennerman, who has already had a training session with the Chargers.
Two years ago, Bennerman and Hunt were selected in the NBA D-League draft by the Austin Toros — development team for NBA champions San Antonio — which could help reduce the time needed for the pair to find team chemistry with Hobart."
Well hobart played a practice game last night :/ wow, gravely concerned after what I witnessed. Short of 28 points from Shane Harris Tunks (by far the tallest guy on the court) a very much average performance. Tom Wright played very little part after rolling his ankle early and Tiri Masunda was a no show. Canmerson Bennermann looks interesting to say the least, but early days since he arrived in Tasmania, Unsure throwing new import Kyle Hunt into the mix will change much personally, but here's hoping. Most likely starring down the barrel of another horror season.
Masunda was playing NWBU for Wynyard. Result of the game never in doubt as All Stars were one pass and shot to try and showcase their skills but that offence either leads to a win or loss by 30.
Depth a concern and Bannerman seemed disinterested at times.
Maybe when the head coach is there is May change for the better.
Regardless of how likely he is to go wherever people think is a "good level" the fact Bendigo have Tony Lewis (11.6 RPG last season) and now a 7"1 centre has got to be a concern for a lot of teams.
Simon Conn from Nunawading has destroyed many teams simply through his inside presence, and even my poor understanding of height wouldn't put him at 7"1.
For the Braves, this is a damn good signing given the fact that this has been rumoured to be "the year" for the final time under Harvs.
How deep do Bendigo's pockets actually go? Considering they'll most likely have a crack at the womens flag again too...
Mitch staying in Adelaide playing Premier League for Woodville Warriors, last years Winners. He replaces Alex Starling last years athletic swingman import. Dr Darren Ng former Sixer and now Sixers club Dr also plays in the team. Mitch established with his PT business and Sixer off season commitments.
I saw 3 and bit of the games in horsham. Some of my thoughts were.....
Bendigo appeared to be at full strength, they have some work to do to be competitive (they only beat Pioneers by 1 who were missing Hill and Daly). Not sure that there import Johnson is good enough.
Nunawading were without there bigger import. Think they will be up there again but will be heavily dependent of Conn, if he misses games with injury or gets in early foul trouble they will struggle. The McDonald/Conn on ball screen is still incredibly effective.
Ballarat were hard to get any read on at all. They were very light on in terms of regular player. Barlett can shoot the ball, with Booker and fisher also come back they are going to be deadly from the three line and I think score a large chunk of their points from there. The swaping of Horton to their new import will probably be similar. I think overall they will be similar to last year and if they dont have injuries will challenge.
Pioneers were missing Hill and Daly obviously pretty significant outs. They might be a bit light on in terms of height in the front court but will be atheltic as hell in the front court. Lee and Johnson will need to stay out of foul trouble. They will tough again to beat because they can get you from so many different spots. Will be up there again in defending their title.
Season opening for Ballarat is a tough one, home against Bendigo and then next day rock up at Geelong for another hard game.
I wonder why it is they have these double header games in quick hits, I know why they do the Tassie doubles, to save costs, but surely players need a break at this level for the duration of the season...
2 games is fine.
It used to be 3 games in Tassie with a road trip Sunday morning and a 2:30pm or ealier game.
One year there were 2 Sydney based teams and a team in Wollongong. Played over a weekend. With a night at the Penrith Leagues Club mixed in.
The younger players especially love those types of weekends as it usually leads to minutes. Especially now with the 40 minute game the top 3 players will often play 35mins + when there is just the one game for the weekend.
new hobart import kyle hunt looks to have settled in playing his first club game last week with 26 points/18 rebounds carrying much of the load for his team.
tiri & bj both looking good with 3 consistent games so far. tiri also having a couple solid games for wynyard in the NWBU
harris-tunks and bennerman both look to be struggling even at club level :/
two game weekends are a must for the league to survive in my opinion. They are tough but the clubs must and do prepare for them accordingly. What is important however is that the double game weekends (and there are those that are tougher than others) are equalized between the clubs as much as is possible.I think that is the key. Sure they are tough but if each club has the same load over the course of the season then things are equaled out.
Just looked at the SEABL "Signings", can someone please explain how is it possible for 1st College players, returning for their break be listed in these teams? it is Clearly a breach of NCAA, NAIA rules for them to play in a Pro league. Are Coaches and Administrators at this level lacking in that much intelligence?
If they are coming from div one colleges they can train but not play, div 2 or juco as has been said are permitted to play, but not get paid. Most just train though. Some may have chosen to finish college and not return, if that's the case they can do what they like.
taken from facebook
North West Tall Timbers Thunder 81 have defeated Hobart Chargers 66.
Monzaigo 21 points & 5 assists
Brad 15 points
Kyle 12 points & 8 rebounds
Fred 11 points & 9 rebounds
Mason 11 points & 4 steals
Joe 6 points & 4 rebounds
Lachie 5 points & 2 rebounds
THUNDER UP !!!
was only 1 point in it at 3 quarter time
Ballarat beaten by 20-30 in every preseason game.
Booker hasn't got Ken Horton to help him this year, new American import not looking good enough.
Opposition side will just double team Booker- Going to be a long year after such a great year last year
my tip is mt gambier for the title again. much the same roster so chemistry should be good. I think the loss of Allen and replaced by Lee is an upgrade, very athletic team on offense and defence. Also burdon will be much stronger this year, missed most of last season with ankle injury, and now in much better shape
Bennerman missed another SBL game last night. starting to become abit of a joke when the SBL themselves are starting to mention it in post match reviews for facebook.
"Grenadiers (4-3) without their import Cam Bennerman for the 5th time this season"
meanwhile Kyle Hunt got schooled by Corey Davie...(23pts, 15reb) vs (14pts, 2reb)
Sandringham and Kilsyth both struggle city, neither any depth. The Kunek experiment at Ballarat worked well - not! Bendigo and Frankston to top South as per last year. Might take Bendigo a few weeks to gel but will be fine. Frankston deeper than last year with Gaze and McKenzie. Dandenong certainties to top East in Larissa's swansong year. Not sure where the excitement towards Nunawading is coming from - much prefer Ballarat and Brisbane's roster.
Big first game tonight, witha grandfinal rematch between the pioneers and Spectres at the icehouse.
Spectres have beaten the Pioneers twice in the preseason. Will that form continue? Or will the Pioneers recent history of beating them in the big games continue?
It is the Pioneers for me at home to keep the incredible winning streak at home going (I think it is close to 20 in a row!)
Looking forward to Daly v McDonald matchup yet again, I think Daly will carry on his impressive form from the GF and get the nod. Some other great match ups and looking forward to how the additions to each team will impact the structures from last year.
Pioneers with the addition of Lee I suspect will be super athletic at both ends of the court and should play an exciting up tempo style!
Looking forward to it!
Tunks got robbed by soft early fouls. He was a great defensive anchor. Hobart are only going to get better.
Haters going to hate, Rush has a good thing going with their chemistry. Bannerman will be a lot more effective when he buys into team ball, not just step back jumpers.
Step back jumpers he can't hit! It was laughable. At one point all the people sitting around me just laughed at him.
Nice effort sinking those late 3 point shots, but we've seen all too much of that previously from deba. Difference being more often than not he'd hit them and finish with 30+.
I'm no coach, but a large majority of the shots Bennerman attempted weren't there to be taken. Both court/bench players showed frustration, I think a few words were exchanged by players on a couple occasions, yet Ben Rush continued to let him do as he pleased. Really liking the look of Kyle Hunt tho!
Tony Lewis was the only one out there who really bothered to play hard, chase a lose ball or take a chance. A couple of guys off the bench played with great effort but the rest of their starters pathetic!
This Vandernberg bloke is a downright ditsy! Doesn't play D, looks lost on the other end and can't rebound. Seriously the worst player I have seen get minutes at seabl level for quite some time. Grant Johnson looks serviceable, but not a huge scoring import which is maybe what the Braves need.
Look at Lewis, he was a beast at Dandenong. Why? Because of good coaching AND the fact DQ takes a lot of attention. Now, he's the man and nobody else wants to step up. Big thumbs up for Tony's effort tonight but the rest of the Braves need to lift or it will be one very sad season.
Poor round one against Ballarat and way way worse tonight against the Bandits
Surely if Bennerman and Tunks can't put some numbers up during the first away trip it's game over. 4 less than acceptable SEABL performances for high profile signings is enough opportunities, added to the fact neither has done anything at all in a number of SBL club outings.
^^ hit the nail on the head. a discussion suggesting exactly that between a board member and spectator was overhead during last weeks game against geelong. a few other people in the immediate area had a few things to say about him and his coaching at the time also. behavior wise on the sideline he is an embarrassment to hobart.
^^ not a SEABL quality coach, kitted out with a team that is not SEABL quality. It had disaster written all over way before the season started. Hobart's recruiting has been horrible for 2 seasons now, and with a limited budget, and a results based fan group you can't afford to make mistakes. Home crowds only hanging on right now based on the Lady Chargers results.
Why spend near import money on Tunks?
Why recruit Bennerman who is a guard when they already have two starting guards?
Why not get a proper 3 man who can play outside and in?
What really shows is the lack of bench depth because there has been no junior development in the last ten years. Krebs,Greenwood,Inches,Masunda were always talented before entering the program.
No real upsets looming, lots of close games down the stretch.
Bris over Sandy, Canb 1 point winner over NWT, Braves and Spectres 1 point diff at 3q time, Blues 1 pt in front of Rangers with 3 min to go, (upset. Supercats 8 in front of Bandits 1/2 way in the 3rd.
Cobras smash the hapless Hobart team by 22.
Chargers now 0-4.
"He's more than just a workhorse," Rush said. “Shane’s a guy who’s going to do some of the dirty jobs so to speak — the screening, rebounding, defending. “He’s also got a great understanding of the game, and his skill level is high for a big guy. “So it’s a mixture of skill, experience and smarts, along with some of those dirty jobs.”
"Part of the attraction of coming to Hobart was getting to play with Rushy again. “We’ve had a relationship for years, so that was exciting to get to play for him and for a coach I know.”
2 points 1 reb in 16min. NO wonder he isn't playing NBL. Rush hand picked him.
not surprising at all.
he was given 2 warnings during the geelong game and should have been ejected for his final outburst but somehow managed to stay (most likely due to being a handful of minutes remaining).
considering the number of kids/younger basketball clubs that attend hobart chargers home games i would have thought hobart management would be cracking down on it pretty quickly.
White has always shot pretty well when playing in Waratah League. I don't recall his shooting record in SEABL when he was with the Miners(& all the old stats links seem to have gone since they switched). It's only in the nBl that he resembles a deer caught in the headlights when he gets the ball in a shooting situation & even there he's had a few games when he's been on target & dropped some decent numbers.
He also had a lot of capable support staff around him and a very capable group of players...let compare him to Chris Scott in the AFL, he didn't coach Geelong to a premiership when he took over the club, the players carried him to a premiership and now times are tough with personel he is struggling to actually do the job he was hired to do.
Rush inherited a very talented side from Justin Schueller and therefore its his crowning coaching achievement. Other than that he had no coaching success up until a few months ago.
Many totally dislike what he has managed to do to a once successful club in such a short time.
There was an import sitting on the Frankston bench on Saturday night - he didn't play just watched them lose (again). Has Frankston signed him as their second import? Anyone know who it is? Lord knows Frankston need one. Same boat as Hobart - can't score. The players do their best, but it's a roster that would struggle in Big V Champ Men. Are things that bad down there that they refuse to spend any money on their senior Mens team?
White? You can't be serious. Of all of the current players available, he wouldn't rate at all. If he was that good he would be already back in the SEABL. Tunks is trying to get back in the SEABL and a personal selection by Rush. A bust.
So where is the problem? Who selected the imports? If it was Rush there is the problem if it wasn't Rush why not?
I think the question is how many players/coaches can hobart sack this year? Can they do better than last years 3? White won't do the job required, Tunks is definitely a spud and Ben Rush surely doesn't have much faith left in him. We could be looking at 7 sackings within 12 months in the coming 4-6 weeks
Two weeks ago the coach was right behind Bennerman! Fact is when someone is behind you, it's the best position to push you off the cliff. If the President, who weirdly is also the major sponsor starts taking some hits, expect Rush to be next one out the door.
I wish that were true. The President chose to sack Bennerman and not Rush. The president was at both games and in fact witnessed Rush's meltdown and subsequent ejection in Kilsyth as well. Rush is that inept at coaching and managing his own 1/2 time tirade the whole team had no warm up before the 3rd and were in fact late out onto the court.
Coaching with meetings foremost, long warm ups, incessant drills and no scrimmaging is kids stuff. The Chargers have a kids coach who can't coach men.
Funny how the knives coming out for Rush.
He's got the ability to build a solid culture in Hobart. Something that has been sadly lacking for years. Axing him now will kill the club.
Previous coaches were handed their jobs on a platter then whining when they're dumped. Rush has the CV so lets hope the player buy in.
How was the last coach handed a ready made winning team?
Three starting guards were signed before he was appointed.
Stewart was handed veteran laden teams and never developed any juniors in his time as coach and kept bringing back 30 year olds to win now not for the future.
Rush isn't even based in Hobart so how is that the best way to build team culture?
Besides Rush's silver medal at Junior Nationals what is his adult coaching success rate and what leagues?
Some of you guys need to get off the grass. Tunks does all the shit jobs and saved that game. As for Rush, give him a chance after all he is stuck with a bunch off "BOYS" who weren't taught the fundamentals in their local junior development clubs, that's where you should be dipping your sticky noses into and sharing your apparent knowledge in there and actually DEVELOP these kids. Then we wouldn't look so damn stupid. You people who sit there and judge every coach we get, how about you try getting behind them and support your team or go find something else to do with your Friday nights.
Rush still teaches drills every day. Day in day out. If they dont know it now, they never will. How about scrimmaging. Tunks still had 2 points. Still a bust.
Whats white going to bring to the table? Defence supposedly. How about scoring consecutive games over 80.
Tunks will stay because he was picked by Rush. Lose to Thunder next week and rush should be joining the unemployed queue. Of course 3 the president sat on the selection panel and pickwd Rush. Conflict of interest anyone.
Rush can coach and has lots of experience both pre and post the AIS. His personality has a history of getting him off side with people but the lack of talent in this group is not all his fault. If there was local talent Harris-Tunks would be a good addition. The two starting guards make no one better.
If you think Tunks can play. Everything else you just said is so wrong.
He may know the play books well but has a dictators mentslity and the personality of a fence post. He is unable to have any decent relationships with players and yet again the board have discussed moving him on. Thsts for the 2nd time.
If you think Tunks can play. Everything else you just said is so wrong.
He may know the play books well but has a dictators mentslity and the personality of a fence post. He is unable to have any decent relationships with players and yet again the board have discussed moving him on. Thats for the 2nd time.
There would still be no chance for the Chargers if they keep their starting guards. Those two play to much hero ball. Unfortunately Rush must be hitting his head against the wall with the bunch he is stuck with. No wonder he is frustrated, they can't even get in the right positions.
No, about Frankston being sold a Porsche and not getting it. The Porsche needed new wheels, the squeaky ones weren't getting it done and impacted in a bad way.
Mr Mitchell sided with the squeaky wheel, wouldn't help the Porsche help him to win the race, so the Porsche parked itself in the garage.
Now Frankston has neither the Porsche or Mitchell to show for it. Egos ruin things for the greater good of the club.
That said, Giovanni is like Brett Brown with the Sixers. There's little talent and one bona fide gun, but the team plays hard within their experience and capability. If they want better results, they need to wait and let it build, or open the wallet.
Always was a problem appointing rush. Undoubtedly qualified with kids and ais. Yet once appointed he was always unavailable until early 2015. Pointing the finger at the players after game 2 as being unfit, he was told if they had a decent preseason and you were here we might be fitter.
Their future will be determined playing Thunder this friday. They lost by 15 with a poor Bennerman performance. Losing by anything other than a small margin will finally alienate the fans.
The current board wanted to build a Taj Mahal but with out realising that you need money to do it.State and federal funding dried up so it was never going to get over the line no matter how much spin you put on it. Hopefully somebody with some business acumen will grab the bull by the horns and do a clean out.
Must have been an interesting game. Williams scoreless. Neither benches worried th scorers and with tunks getting 4 pon5s and 7 rbs you would wonder how long hes got left. Hunt had 16 and 7.
White 8pts is hardly import quality. 20 to with 12 from 3 players is bad. 4 each to tunks barker and hunt. Ratcliffe scoreless in 22 min.
Kyle hunt quiet with 5.
42 nwt points amongst 3 players 39 amongst 3 chargers players. 59 points wont win the too many games and wright was quoted in the paper saying their defence is better than their offence. Tonight he was (w)right
Chargers better in most categories as well.
It's interesting that Sam Harriss was let go by the Chargers years ago early in the season and was putting up the same numbers as Tunk and at 1-5 will letting Tunks go solve any problems?
It's one thing to play great d but if you can't score over 60 per game you won't win many games.
Thunder import Williams is way too inconsistent and too small maybe they need to replace him with Bennerman.
Might not solve any problems initially, but he would be on a decent pay to have relocated from the mainland. Putting court time into the likes of Willis and Baker makes more sense to me personally. I like the look of Willis at times and Baker has been solid on limited time.
Barker will return to college soon. So what then? Assist149 you talk about them not scoring more than 60 and playing great D. Yet thunder going on an 11 -0 run is terrible D and exactly when they choked and lost the the game.
This side is almost as bad as last seasons. Tunks for some reason still has a job as does the coach who personally selected him.
Rush has a vision of where he wants the playing group to be. He is trying to teach them how to achieve that level.
Sacking him would achieve nothing. The club needs to believe and trust in his ability and back him for this season and next.
He has a two year contract, so lets just let him try and do his job. We need to solidify as a club whilst under pressure.
"They (the Thunder) are a free-scoring team while we are strong defensively and for most of the game our style was working."
So how is an 0-11 run strong defensively? Was Rush asleep at the wheel when that lapse cost the the game?
Offence averaging less than 60. Sheesh. Talk8ng d up is pointless if you let some go on an 11 - 0 run and you have no go to guy offensivly.
Double down on hunt like kilsyth did and then what. Hunts a great player but he aint no polk.
People who want Rush sacked are the same ones who slammed the club for axing Davie?!
Where does it end. If a few people would shut up and give him a chance things might turn around.
Sour grapes from the local basketball know it alls who just want to poison the club as they're trying to make positive change.
Sad that such backward thinking keeps dragging the club down!
how does a coach who has constantly showed a lack of professionalism with his sideline antics and immature philosophy of basketball deserve a chance while a player like Bennerman who clearly has proof in his resume that he can play (despite the first 2 games) gets released? they never gave a highly documented player a chance, Rush surely doesn't deserve one.
thats without mentioning his continued faith in Tunks despite him not having even a performance worth mentioning in 6 starts now.
Tunks is hardly a local boy playing for a free mainland trip and a couple meals, by all reports they are paying him solid money. certainly enough to justify relocating from the mainland.
And replacing him with who?
If he was an American he would have been replaced by now. Just like Vandenburg in Bendigo, you'd be just cutting a player who is underperforming and not able to replace them with anyone. Depedning on the contract, you may also have to pay out the rest of the salary.
Sack an import and bring in white. Yes that makes no sense at all. Dont pay tunks the money he is getting and go without.Or alternatively sack him and bring in an american import for the same money.
The club has never had had a culture like the dictator that Rush is.
He simply cant coach adults and the players have no respect and reason to play for him.
How about some accountabilty for player selection? If you are a local you will know that one of the reasons the last coach got the sack was poor on court performances and poor player selections.
Rush is an outsider and has consistently been unavailable pre season to conduct any pre season. He had already accused the players after 2 games of being unfit. He is convinced (himself and the board) they play hard D. Crap. Yet he as a coach cant coach them offensively.
Clearly not the players problem. He runs no plays for Hunt who sits on the 3 point line and he believes thats where hunt can play. Put tunks out there, he's useless inside and Rush believes and has been quoted that tunks needs to adjust to the play. Ffs hes supposed to be fringe nbl and Rush keeps making excuses for him.
The board know they have chosen the wrong guy and pre season should have got rid of him when they had the chance to do so.
Massive time in player selection and a personal choice by Rush of Tunks should see him gone. That wont happen and the board now lnow t hey hot it wrong. Yet another chargers season down the gurgler. Shameful
Think someone didn't get the job and has sour grapes!! Your just raving like a crazy crack head!!
When a coach signs a player he is always going to support him in the media...u don't sign a guy and say we had a small budget and coudnt get anyone else with size so he'll do!
Get over it results across the season will determine if he keeps his gig and Tunks as well.
Yet last season the head coach was sacked for poor player selection and poor on court results.
No sour grapes what so ever. Rush is simply out of his depth and the board know it yet wont do anything about it.
Make no mistake he is the highest paid coach the club has ever had and now is worst coach they have ever had.
Yes the Chargers are clearly as talented as the Sydney Swans , Rush says in the article above. Great to see Tunks improving with 4 assists, 4 rebounds, 4 fouls and 2 points. Yes he didnt foul out so thats an improvement.
With the bench contributing 2 points and 2 players not even getting on court he clearIy has the mix right.
Well done 569. That comment outlines exactly why the Chargers are struggling. The poison that surrounds them at home. You failed to mention they actually won last night in a game they were not tipped to win. You fail to mention that this year the coach has put more faith in the bench than any time in the 6 years I have been watching them.
With fans that shit can them for loosing then go silent or dig through the stats to find negatives when they win I doubt the club will have any hope of looking to the future.
Solid effort last night by the Chargers. Slow start and moment of hesitation at around the 5min mark in the last. But held on.
Nice to see Tiri finally step up and throw down some solid numbers. Kevin White looked magic during the comeback in the second. Chargers still look to hesitate and play with the ball too much offensively. while Tunks certainly performed a lot better he still looks like a stunned rabbit when included in the plays, hopefully a few nice passes/touches in the last do wonders for his confidence. Kyle Hunt fought a solid battle inside offensively despite being double teamed all night.
Hard to have faith in your bench when they aren't as good as their starters. Most teams are like that in the SEABL. Ask Rod Popp. Plays his starters into the ground. That's the point. It's a 40 minute game!!
You can't criticise a guy for playing his starters and in the same breathe have a crack at him for subbing too much. Rush and the Chargera are on the right path. They are disciplined and play together. They will get more wins - long season ahead.
^ think they need to take a good look at their conditioning, as these injuries are costing them dearly, the players even more so. Excellent program for building and developing , but not if it's going to have so many injured players.
ACL is no minor injury and can happen to anyone, but either boomers are plagued with bad luck or something is going on with how they prepare and condition.
It's one thing to develop good players and another to keep them sound. Let's hope she makes a great recovery but it's a yr long process which is heartbreaking for all involved.
Who else from Boomers has actually been injured? Jarry? and Bec Cole? Who has had 2 reconstructions before, if I am thinking correctly? Both before she played for Boomers.
This just seems like an average number for a team of athletes? Doesn't seem like the Boomers are doing anything wrong?
Some silly comments here.
You need to look at the type of injury first before questioning the validity or professionalism of a strength and conditioning program.
Are we looking at repeat stress/imbalance/over use type injuries such as hamstring strains, tendonitis, core strains?
Or are they acute injuries that rely on mechanical force to occur such as shoulders, rolled ankles and ACL ruptures.?
No amount of S+C will overcome someone falling across your leg and snapping an ACL or landing off balance and rolling an ankle.
We are also aware that the boomers season ended in mid February, aren't we?
Bec has been in the Nunawading program since. Not that they are to blame either, because freak accidents and bad luck do happen, but it's unfair to pin responsibility on a team she has been out of season with, for 3 months now.
Well let's hope Bec doesn't go back for more LARS surgery
We all know the Nick Malceski story. The Swan played 86 days after rupturing his anterior cruciate ligament in 2010.
There have been 10,000 LARS ligaments implanted in Australia since 2004, about three-quarters of which were for cruciate injuries.
Over 300 surgeons around the country perform the ligament augmentation and reconstruction system (LARS) surgery, which, with the use of a synthetic ligament, repairs the torn tissue.
If Alan Toovey, Taylor Walker and Kepler Bradley had LARS surgery - assuming their individual injuries allowed them to do so - they could have been back by about Round 18.
So why didn't they?
Dr Cameron Norsworthy performed LARS surgery on former Carlton forward Brad Fisher in 2010 and said the technology is promising but still imperfect.
"What we know for sure, and what I counselled Brad with as well, is that the LARS will always fail ... we just hope it fails further enough down the track that they have completed their career," Dr Norsworthy said.
"Anything man-made that you put inside the knee will eventually fail; it's just the environment of the knee and the stresses and demands upon it."
Dr Julian Feller says LARS surgery is attractive because of its faster rehabilitation time and the fact there is no need to take a graft from the player's patella or hamstring, causing "niggles" in that area.
But Feller said more LARS reconstructions have re-ruptured, in percentage terms, than traditional reconstructions.
"I'll always discuss it with players and encourage them if they want to get some opinions on LARS ... to do so," Dr Feller said.
"But it seems to me that most of the players I've dealt with in recent times are not that enthusiastic about it."
Dr Norsworthy said plenty of work was being done to improve the technology.
From an article in the Leader newspaper about Cole:
"I was very upset the day it happened, but I wasn't as devastated as I’ve been before because I already knew the feeling from doing the injury previously, I knew straight away it was the ACL,’’ she said.
“It is so upsetting because after all the issues with my other knee, I’ve worked so hard to get back and prove myself.
“It’s another year out, but I’ll be back. I can do it.’’
Yes we get it anonymous 980 you hate the Chargers! Did you follow the games at all? They were coming from behind and missed out barely both games to good teams. If you have an agenda to push you won't get far on here. The rest of the world doesn't care!
Blocks and steals are defensive stats are they not? What about defensive rebounds?
But agree little value if given to defensive players by award givers/voters. If it were Damian Johnson would be in everyone's top few for league mvp but safe to say he is not.
Mvp and similar awards
Like weekly mvp are almost solely considered
On the amount of points u can score!
You seem to care anonymous. Are you one of Rush's yes men?
Where were you anonymous to know all this inside info? Just read the box scores like so many here do. Yet really have no basketball experience. No we are not the same posters. Lose by 2 or 20. No one cares its a loss. Rangers and Bandits are mediocre teams this season. Chargers have beaten Brisbane and Nunawading yet fail to beat far lesser teams.
Rush doesn't care about the bench nor the development of the bench. No personal development of the kids cos he lives in Launceston and is never available in Hobart In his own words if you aren't up to this level, pine time.
He's never coached men and is way out of his depth coaching men.
#006 - did you bother watching the hobart games? Or even looking at the box scores..
Hobart had all the momentum at the end of the Albury game. They let them back in solely by playing too deep defensively against a team with a trio of excellent outside shooters.
They led Dandenong by a solid amount and gave it up in the 3rd..definitely no come from behind in that one..
Sure the team are doing some good things. Players haves stepped up to the mark, with plenty of glimpses of magic. But it's quite frustrating seeing them get done on the line when they were the better side on the night...
"Rush doesn't care about the bench nor the development of the bench"
A few weeks ago you anon posters were complaining he was over using the bench, and subbing players like a U10's game.
Have you spoken to the bench players? Have you seen the time and patience he IS giving to the local players who don't have the knwoledge or skills to be competive at this level?
Our local junior development has let the region down. You cant expect him to come in and turn around decades of neglect and mismanagement. SMH
What local players are actually averaging over ten minutes a game?
Whitey I think you greatly over estimate the talent it takes to play SEABL these days.
The standard of the league has fallen.
Wills,Barker have been far from disgraceful in their minutes.
I don't think people complaints have been he has over used his bench more so the too frequent rotations of subbing three on three off every three minutes.
So when Barker goes back to college what then?
Ffs the bench scored 3 points a few weeks ago.
Rush is never there to do 1:1's like under Stewart.
If the dont have the skills and knowledge at this level why are they playing at all. Sure the talent is poor but blame the Chargers for that ever since they started. Of all the coaches they have had they have all been locals.
Rush is the least able to help local development because he lives in Launceston. He's the highest ever paid coach plus a car, when he's in Hobart he stays with the players. How bad us that.
No one is complaining about the bench, its the childish subbing of the bench like u10's because he had only ever coached kids.
Rush will never win in the eyes of the anonymous 'supporters' on here. I am pretty sure he has been running more individual training sessions than any recent coach. I have no idea what he is getting paid but I am prepared to bet it is nowhere ne'er the average wage. The board selected him knowing his situation hang shit on them or get behind your team.
Yes that pre season was outstanding starting in Feb. Normally they have scrimmages and fitness underway sometime in Nov.
Rush was building his house and doing u20. Far more important than the chargers.
What has the average wage got to doing with anything? He is the highest paid coach in chargers history + a car.
In game 2 he accused the players of being unfit ffs. One player said, well if we had a decent presesaon we may not be. I guess you either didn't know that or conveniently forgot that.
Tunks is far from performing one import sacked and little contribution from the bench. All Rush's selection. No board interference in selection and he asked for and got more money.
Guess you have selective memory.
You just don't sack somebody playing well on court for no reason- there was obviously issues- On a positive note- I cant remember the last time a player hit 7out of 7 3pointers in the last quarter of a match like Booker did against Thunder- he hit a 3 on the buzzer last year to beat to win by a point. Its taken a while for him to get back to 100% after his injury- If speculation is right and Horton returns to Ballarat- Booker and Horton were the best imports last year- Booker points until injury and Horton on the boards, should be good to watch.
heard a few NBL teams looking at Bennerman. Its sad that after just 4 games you release a player of his stature.
Bennerman was the only player working with the footie club for extra conditioning and things because the club was getting the team what they needed. He was encouraging other players from the team to join as well. I used to always see him in the gym and talking with guys. Maybe im beating a dead horse but as a country we have to recognize the ones who are really making a difference even though they may have a bad game or 2. No Rush is trying to go behind Bennermans back to use those same resources.
ive also heard about Ben Rush living with the players as well. Staying up late waiting to see what time guys get home from being out like they are kids. I was told it wad extremely strange having him in there. There was also no preseason at all. Im just a bit pissed that an import of Bennermans resume had to be the sacrificial lamb for Hobarts ignorance.
from what i understand Rush did not even want Hunt.he did not think he was good enough for seabl and Bennerman had to convince him.
there seems to be a lot to thank Bennerman for down there in Tasmania. stubbornness gets you nowhere fast.
Bennerman was hardly training with footballers...using the football clubs gym facilities which is happened to be shared by a local strength and conditioning coach...
I have found it interesting that Cam decided to stick around in hobart. So he must have a few options open to him. Can't imagine he is just enjoying the scenery.
What a great loss for the Chargers and Tasmanian basketball. A pleasure to see Kyle Hunt on the court. Is it any wonder he is leaving - nothing but turbulence since arriving in Hobart and he still gave it everything each and every time on the court. Very challenging circumstances for any player - a valuable lesson for everybody directly involved with any sporting club and those on the periphery. It takes a lot more than simply throwing a group of talented players together - the very best results will come from a supportive and united environment and from one on the sideline, everybody involved has failed miserably. All the very best Kyle - we were lucky to have you and a big thank you for your valuable and inspiring contribution.
Absolute commiseration to Kylie hunt for coming all the way to Tasmania as a proven champion basketball player from America and to be treated so badly on and off the court in such a toxic environment. . Without doubt the best player the Chargers had . Gave one hundred percent on the court . And an absolute gentleman off the court. SHAME SHAME to all concerned. No doubt you will return to a brilliant career back in New York.
It was HUGE mistake Bennerman and Hunt going to the Chargers. From what I understand Hunt came bc of Bennerman. Bennerman left, Hunt leaves.
Clearly Ben Rush is a negative. No one seems to be able to get along with the guy but robots.
I hope the Chargers are happy now with no more Americans to place the blame on.
I saw Bennerman yesterday. He is still here.
Speaking of low level. Look at Rush,s CV for a lesson in mediocrity.
I would rather be fringe NBA than have a coaching CV like that. Do you play SBL anonymous? Is that the limit to your basketball credentials?
Just another Rush putz yes man.
He has single handedly destoyed a once grat club. He will come back caliming a massive achievment and spuiking we all got the job done and we are as good as the sydney swans (cough, cough) again.when they beat the CoE kids.
Grow up moron. Don't waste your time typing with one hand in your dark bedroom. Tell him to his face if you feel so hard done by. Won't do any good sooking on here. The Chargers slide from 'greatness' started years ago not with the arrival of Rush.
I have told him to his face. He simply cant cope with the truth. He knows it and rest assured the board knows it. He has a 1 year contract. Simple. Readvertise the position and lets see if he gets it. He's a prat and ocd. I don't hide behind a keyboard. I will tell him agsin if he's here at seasons end. The sock puppets here are the only ones in town that like him.
Ffs he comes from Launceston. Nuff said.
hobarts efforts on the road were impressive..
interesting to see if they sign a replacement for kyle hunt prior to the albury wodonga/deba's return to hobart friday night..
what would be more interesting is if the real reason for kyle hunt departure became public..
To the goose who is anonymous - if you tell Rush to his face then you don't have a problem signing up to be a member and using your real name?
I have played for Rush and it wasn't the easiest. Plus I know the chargers very very well. I was involved in the Launceston tiger back in the day and very close friends with some of the current Hobart players as well as past player.
So lets get to the point - Rush is trying to coach like its a junior team in seniors..... right? Really that’s the point, but what is he working with - who cares where he lives. I coached in Perth and I travelled to Bunbury for training 2 hours each way, they didn’t care. So why should you? That’s right Hobart people have a complex about people in Launceston, I only lived in Tassie for 5 years and I saw that.
Ok he hasn't learnt how to talk to adults well enough, so i personally think they need the right assistant for Ben (maybe Chris Symons needs to be his assistant. Chris has the personality traits that is Ben's short fall. )
There is no doubt Ben can coach, he is great with X's and O's but there is a problem with his communication.
As for the 2 imports that aren't there anymore, why aren't they there? have any of you talked to them? or are you bashing for no other reason? that’s right you hide behind Anonymous input.
Hobart has been falling since the retirements of there senior players a few years ago, the worst thing they ever did was let Chuck and Polk go as they were strong people in there locker room for the young guys to use as support (watch how some anonymous person will bash this comment with no real knowledge).
Management and expectation on the team are 2 major issues Hobart has – good luck fixing those
unfortunately based on this article i dont think chris would be interested nor would the club welcome him back. strong words were said
instead they carry an inexperienced playing assistant coach..to be named on the team sheet but not suit up..
I know the team and I spoke to hunt the othet day as he us a friend. Why would I join the membership base when Rush is a cancer. Ask the players you know them. Mentioning Long in 5ge same sentence as Polk is a joke. Clearly you know nothing about why Long moved on.Do some research mate and find out the real reason why Long was CUT. Polk took a large payrise and went to Frankston. How do I know? He told me.
The assistant is a playing asst coach because Rush indeed needs assistance. Rush needs a yes man at his back. Nathan seems like a nice guy but as a player on the roster he is taking a spot from someone else.
I know far more about the club than you will ever know.
Rush tried to secure Symons as an assistant and after his outburst in the press, Rush was told NO to Symons. Being involved with the Tigers upteen years ago has exactly what to do with anything? They left a decade ago?
you agree with me on the communication area, you admit he's a difficult coach to play under and you agree about the not coaching adults.
The point of the Launceston thing is that 5 he is never availabke locally. Hell he didn't even have the gonads to sack Bennerman face to face. Because he wad unavailable. Pre season essentially none and then he accuses the players of being unfit. If you really are a coach all these pointers should be sending off alarm bells.
You really don't know that much at all.
They are a great team played together before. Someone ( not Rush ) scouted them as a team.
Bennerman is loving Hobart and has a lovely girlfriend now. If as you suggest he left because Bennerman got the sack, that would be wrong seeing as Cameron is still in Hobart. Sure they are tight and still are. Hunt has returned to the US. Shame that Rush has caused this to happen.
How about them Pioneers? Looking positive from Blue Lake City. Coach Hill has got everyone doing their jobs like usual and their record of 10-2 and a 7 game winning streak speaks volumes of the team.
Great test against the Supercats on Saturday night and the Miners on Sunday this upcoming weekend.
would be great to have some posts about something other than hobart!
I agree the Pioneers are flying at the moment.
Huge test this weekend against Geelong and Ballarat both on the road.
Get two more away wins this weekend and surely they have to be clear favourites for the title?
Cant get the right import?. A lot of time was invested in getting those 2. The chargers vaded thrir team around them Rush even expectef to use hunt at the 3 point line!!!
Cant get 2 chances. This late in the season.
President personally involved in selecying rush. Bennerman and hunt.
You figure it out.
Noticed on the box scores tonight Rangers lost again at home. Montreal really struggling to make a shot past month or so really poor FG%, no Chuck long and second game Chris Patton hasnt hit the scoresheet.
Do they have injuries? Lucas Walker has been a great signing for them and for such a talented squad, maybe some troubles inside the camp.
Why did seabl let BA take over- the web site in a mess - old news paper articles, no previews, it only took them 9 rounds to stuff up a very professionally run site, no pregame interviews or previews- no wonder they have trouble attracting corporate dollars. If I ran my business like they do- the for sale sign would be out front.
I've been told that @ Rangers Chuck has gone to a family wedding, Patton out injured (season), Wearne off to College and Harms light duties.
Still no excuse with such a poor win/loss record and stacked team.
That's what happens when you sign part time playing & Training group.
Always going to implode with want to be ego fuelled roster.
tonight we learnt that shane harris tunks is actually a sack of potatoes!
for someone that is often one of the tallest on the court with the biggest arm span he is rubbish offensively.
while he took a decent number of rebounds defensively, i lost count of how many times he also fucked up a play, knocked the ball to the opposition or just fumbled the ball out of play.
What was their last winning margin vs albury? Lots I think.
Discovering tunks is a sack of potatoes just now. Everyone knew that after game 2 I reckon.
Strange that Rush is trying to recruit another big aussie. Not sure who he will get but he's missed the boat with a great guy. Ma6be he doednt have the contacts. Ballinger has signed with the Spectres.
"Why did seabl let BA take over- the web site in a mess - old news paper articles, no previews, it only took them 9 rounds to stuff up a very professionally run site, no pregame interviews or previews- no wonder they have trouble attracting corporate dollars. If I ran my business like they do- the for sale sign would be out front."
I agree and disagree. Without doing any analysis there is arguably more content than in previous years, particularly with Roy Ward's stuff. The video shows have disappeared, but I did once describe them as life-threateningly dull here.
The confusion for me is where SEABL now sits, with content across both BA and SEABL sites... its a strange lack of focus.
Now now...Zac White looked good...just thrown in the deep end at the wrong end of the season and unfortunately had injury niggles...he still plays in the nwbu with penguin and dominates week in week out dragging the team over the line often enough
Can someone please put a muzzle on the Chargers President.
"Players like Anthony come out late, so they aren't signed by SEABL teams and they work away in a competition like the NWBU for a chance like Anthony’s got here or to earn a spot for the following season"
Don't comment on what you don't know. Anthony was in the state before Bennerman and Hunt.
Therein lies the root of the problem. Money and a dictatorship. That's why Rush will keep his job. Personally selected by him and he is clueless about basketball.
He even put himself on the selection panel.
If they were clever they would have given White another crack. Probably another Radford connection anyway.
Far worse season than last season. Little to no press for starters and a coach who has the personality of a block of wood and a media presence equally as bad.
He's compared the Chargers to the Swans and a shot from White equal to Delly.
Spin it all you want Rush, you simply cant coach at Seabl level. If there was a replacement he would be already gone.
I defy anyone to ask any of the players 'can Rush coach'. I bet the answer will be no. Certainly not at seabl level.
More importantly the crowd has voted with their feet. Possibly the worst crowd Ever. That will be the ultimate test. Chargers rely heavily on their gate. Yet another poor selection from Rush. They are are now in a worse position than last season now. Ultimately it wont be about winning. It will be about bums on seats now. If they get into the finals and fail to secure a home final they will be under the pump.
Tunks has not produced at any level and I think opposition teams actually target him as the weakest link and he probably has zero confidence.
The crowd have no connection with the men's side like they used to.
When the home side is introduced there is seriously 5-10 people in the stands clapping.
Last night wouldn't have been the worst crowd ever! The worst this season yes!
No double header with the women contributed but still over 800-1000 people.
Trying going to SEABL in most interstate stadiums where 200 spectators is a good result.
Who cares what crowds are in another state. Most teams are non crowd reliant because they have pokies and a large club base behind them or just supported by a large club infrastructure. The Chargers rely very heavily on gate receipts to fund them. A 1/2 full stadium is a terrible result for them. Yes there is no connection with the crowd because a Willie or a Sharky or a Stewie isn't coaching. A local that people know and support. Rush spends no time in the community and little time with players and even less time scrimmaging. He certainly is an expert at drills.
A flawed decision by the selection panel, the President and Board.
The connection also comes from players that are interactive with young supporters and fans not players that think they are awesome when they have achieved nothing.
It used to be a privilege to suit up for the Chargers as it meant hard work had earned you a spot. Team culture and comradary was still great until the time Polk and Long were released and the gap between club and crowd exploded.
One thing you can't blame Rush for is last year.
Who do you blame for the last two years? The board!
I do agree the men make absolutely no effort and it certainly doesn't help pull crowds.
Look around the court after the women's game Amy, Klara and Kath all make the effort to talk to the younger spectators, pose for photos and what not. Hence its no surprise we see youngsters with banners and the like.
Can't say I've seen any holding any signs relating to the men.
I won't drop names, but it'll be pretty obvious to many. But have witness 2 particular men's players ignore the approach of kids wanting photos prior to games starting on numerous occasions. After a few years in the system ID have thought they would have learnt to appreciate fans.
By all means drop names. They need to be accountable. The culture has changed and yes the old guard has moved on but today's group gave no pride in the club. The senior group were tight and club proud. The current group don't care and all they want after a game is to go out. No passion, no blood and sweat for their club. Having a coach who can't relate to anyone is a terrible problem. Woeful Pr presence and the dame in life.
Additionally the women continue to win. Everyone loves a winner. I am sure that no one was lining up when the women were winless.
Loyalty is a two way street. If the club and supporters don't put it out. Hard to expect it back. When is the last time you saw the give aways the kids used to get on game night? It takes a whole club working together not just the guys on the court. Most of them are only playing for the 6 wedges and 2 partie pies they get after the game. Sacking imports they have just had time to get to know and a local arse rag reporter that puts the most negative slant on everything and publishing, it doesn't help build a positive culture.
Predictions for tonight's game? Local derby in tassie! NWT vs Chargers...
I'm tipping 10 points to NWT on the back of another 30 point game by the Jackson, I can't see any of the hobart players closing him down. Tunks is a spud and the other guys too inexperienced playing on a guy of said caliber.
Would love to see Tom Wright continue his good form and throw down another 205+ game however.
Chargers lose another. You cant score 11 points in the 1st and 21 in the last and expect to win. Bench scores 8. Everyone has always talked about giving the kids the opportunity. Well they have it. Unfortunately with the subbing that Coach Rush has, no one knows what will happen.
Tunks still a bust. The new import at least didn't foul out and managed to score 3 points and 7 rbs in 15 mins. Clearly out of his league.
Thunder has no need to play the bench when every one else contributes is there. Closer than you think are you serious? With one of the best basketball prospects around (Kyle Clark)away on national duties the Chargers were lucky to get that close.
You also fail to mention that after scoring 19-6 the Chargers lead by 6 and then somehow managed to lose. Take the blinkers off.
Sounds reminiscent of the Nationals where Rush found a way to lost that one too.
He has rubbed so many people the wrong way. 2 schools of thought it seems sack him for sure, but if that occurs who will replace him. Certainly his courtside demeanour is terrible and many fans are commenting on that as well. Not a good example for the fans.
The pioneers get their 12th straight win. This time in overtime against the Rangers. With Kurt Russell turning back the clock and hitting two huge threes in overtime. The umpiring was appalling, it affected both teams. It had a greater impact on the pioneers with foul trouble early to the two imports. Daly was great. Keep the pioneers in the game during the first three quarters and came up big in the final minutes. Walker needs to stop flopping.
Think Balls is still fitting in and finding his feet, he looked a little rusty Saturday but you can see he'll be great once he gets a few more games under his belt.
Conn's loss is huge cause you can't replace the understanding him and MacDonald have in the Onballs.
Not sure how it will work when they get Conn back but not sure how long Graham's out for either, if he plays they prob get over Frankston.
Rather than start a new thread can someone explain the player rankings for me. The A,B & C rankings should IMO be located on the SEABL website for all to see but I can't seem to find it anywhere.
I'd like to know what each ranking means, how many of each ranking are allowed and in what variations. If this info is explained somewhere online, please point me in that direction.
Thanks in advance!
In SEABL there are 3 classifications of a restricted player.
Each SEABL team can only have a maximum combination of three A, B or C restricted players - and no more than two A or B restricted players.
An A restricted player is any non-Australian required to hold a Foreign Players License.
A B restricted is any player who averages more than 18? minutes per game in the previous NBL/WNBL season before the January deadline or a Boomer/Opal, or played professionally in another League.
A C restricted player more than 12 mins NBL/WNBL.
As it says, only 2 fully restricted players per team and a C restricted player.
You can have:
A + A + C
A + B + C
A + C + C
B + B + C
B + C + C
C + C + C
Actually 1 more question.....What is the player is home grown talent?
A home grown junior playing 12 plus minutes in NBL/WNBL - Would they still be a "C"?
A home grown Junior playing 18 plus minutes in NBL/WNBL - Would they still be a "B"?
Toxic publicity where? There has been little publicity anywhere. No even a mention in the local paper after their choke / loss on Friday night.
Unfortunately beating bottom placed team Canberra is nor really an achievement. Now they play bottom placed Frankston. Clearly peaking.
Penaluna situation is a disgrace. How can the clubs stand for this - they support the COE by allowing them to play and then when they've had their fun stuffing up the comp the players can sign with another club. Absolute joke.
TOTALLY AGREE WITH THIS - WHAT AN ABSOLUTE FARCE !!
Chargers in much less turmoil than same time last year. But you must not let the truth get in the way of a good story. Don't know where you get 150 from for the crowd the other week, crowd was way down but 300 - 350 would be closer to the mark. Last week would have bee closer to 1000. Not bad for seabl games. Not a huge fan of the current coach but to constantly peddle doom and gloom on here it just pointless trolling.
The club has struggled from the time they moved Dan Krebs out of the men's coaching gig. They simply will never have the cash to attract the personnel to instantly compete and struggle to find local talent.
If we don't support them they will go the way of all of the other upper tier teams in Tasmanian basketball history.
Wow don't tell Stewie about him being a failure then and all the finals they were in after 2008.The new President is investing a lot of his cash into the club and Rush got an increase in his player budget so lets not let that fact get in the way of the truth either. I understand that the official count was 125. Of course you are going to get a good crowd for the local derby. Its a shame that they choked. That home W will be critical again to the remainder of the seasons home crowds as well.
The local talent is simply not up to it agreed. yet Rush persists with his stupid rotations.
Right now if there was a replacement he would be gone. If there is no replacement at seasons end he will continue on.
Good on ya mate. Great to see the Chargers playing another bottom of the ladder side. Clearly its important to you. You obviously forget that when White put up a last minute shot (that we equally to a Dellie shot according to Rush) they would have lost. Obviously that doesn't matter eh.
Lets see how they go against the Spectres minus Conn.
Struggle street for the Specs last weekend. Balls still fitting in and a few absentees for the Specs meant a loss to Franga on the bottom. Chargers winning by 11 is unconvincing. Franga scoring 8 in the first is game over. Both teams won 2 quarters each and the Chargers should have won far easier.
Stream was one of the better online broadcasts I've seen recently..thumbs up to hobart for that one!!
Tunks on the other hand shouldnt even be playing local basketball, time to give it up mate..once again a rabbit stunned by headlights whenever he recieved the ball..as for the incident, just a dirty low act by him..no place for it!
Undoubtedly he is, but look at the vision of why he was suspended. Dragging a player to the floor and then kicking him is not required in basketball or any other sport.
If he is reading this forum he would have exploded about 4 months ago based on your comments.
Adam Smith summed it up perfectly. Insipid.
Last week despite getting a a flogging from the Braves Rush was touting that the Chargers were capable of breaking the Pioneers streak. Not sure what planet he is on. He has always been on about their excellent defence. More rubbish. He is successfully doing more to drag the club into an abyss from which they will be lucky to ever recover. Fortunately the Womem are keeping the program together.
Yet you still post here.
I have a fantastic life and unfortunately can't sit idly by and tolerate what has happened to this once great club.
You clearly don't know anything about the club and if you pretend you do you are indeed part of the problem.
51 points would be an all club low. Embarrassingly so.
Rush craps on about excellent defence. It's crap and the worst part of it is that there offence is far worse.
Rush this season has talked about the club being like the Sydney Swans, White's shooting like Delladova and last week stating they were capable of breaking the Pioneers streak. There isn't even any smoke and mirrors just bullshit that has been found out.
Isaac, any chance this thread can be renamed? Some of us are over the constant attacks on the chargers and rush and then the defending of the same. Can we have a new SEABL thread that is actually about the competition itself and all the teams involved as opposed to just 1?
Has any other team dominated a seabl regular season in the manner the pioneers have so far. I mean they are 7 games clear at the top of their conference! They are on a ridiculous winning streak, anyone no what the all time mark is? Considering they won there last 10 games last year they have won 28 of their last 30! They only lost 4 games for the entire season last year and they on tack to beat that mark. I haven't followed seabl for long so don't know the history of the league, anyone know what the best all time mark is? Lastly their record at home over the last few years is also impressive they were undefeated at home last year and have dropped just one this year. I think they had a very good home run to finish in 2013 too they must be close to having lost just once in about 40 home games! Would love done info from longtime seabl followers!
Do you know what taking means in sport? Clearly not.
Barker was always going to college in late July and Tunks is a frustrated basketball player who did probably the dumbest thing I have ever seen in any basketball game. From his point of view he won. He should have been reported, He's now got another 3 weeks here and doesn't have to play. Seasons over.
Rush has successfully overseen spending the highest budget of the Chargers history, been the most Tech fouled Coach in Chargers history, and been the first ejected Head Coach in Chargers history. Not only that because Rush was so greedy he took a lot of that player spend for himself.
Demoralising the players and successfully dragging the Chargers to their 2nd worst performance ever.
Great season eh.
Stick to kids Ben when they wont answer back.
You also need a personality that is affable and media savvy. None of them are applicable either.
This was an annus horribilis season and the President and the selection panel should hang their heads in shame.
Let all the Rush family please explain why I am wrong.
Yes I do know what tanking means!
In this case when a club is losing money if they were to slip into the top four and finish third or fourth it would mean a road trip. That means spending money they don't have and have run out of places to borrow.
They never knew for sure when Barker was leaving and originally he was not a required player. Then to top it off Rush tried to talk him out of going to the states to instead stay with the Chargers.
Great game at the thunderdome saturday night
Mt gambier amazing defence last quarter and ot
Have they the best 2 imports in the seabl
My opinion is yes from what ive seen
Dj great d does it all and big tyronne solid all round
Daley was super saturday night and they seem to have a great coach/program
The place was packed saturday nightand loud got there 20 minutes before the game and was lucky to get a seat
Lucky we have a entertaning team to watch unlike hobart who are lucky to score 50 at 30% boring rubbish
The finals thing is always a dilemma and taking is the wrong word. The Ladies are supporting the full program now and they have home final/s.
It was never a problem when in 2008 finals when the Men were on the road forever. Times have changed.
Tanking requires gaining an advantage. The Men despite all of Rush's verbage were never finals material. You should know that.
Rush is that much of an idiot that trying to talk Barker out of going to college proves how much of a lunatic he is.
Barker has gone backwards since playing under Rush and I am sure he cant wait to get away from him.
let's address all the other issues where I am wrong.
The board is tanking not Rush.
The three referees didn't think the Tunks incident was reportable and the SEABL weren't going to do anything but the board suspends him for three games ensuring it isn't blatantly obvious by letting him come back for the last game.
They didn't sack him as they have looked like the biggest mess over the last 18 months possible and the fan base has voted with their feet like last week when a lot of the crowd left after the women's game.
Let's see how much love the women get next year without Scheer.
Local newspaper yesterday:
Chargers president claims home game attendance isn't due to the poor results the men have had recently but more so do to the uninspiring style of play. suggesting it isn't entertaining to the average person!
He also goes on to suggest that they wish to restructure the team during the off season in hope of returning to the high scoring flamboyant offensive style of play.
Rush really does have him strung up like a puppet
Yes and the President continues to mimic Rush's words by saying that we play great defence.
Therein lies the problem. Lance will lose face by removing his hand picked hopeless coach. So it wont happen.
Unless he quits at seasons end for personal reasons.
BJ has been allowed to play. He wont score 21 every game. Wright kept quiet and BJ finally gets a chance to play. Go figure. BJ ain't a game winner every game but he's experienced and capable. The spud is not playing, and surprise surprise they win. Many have said locally they play better without him. BJ goes from 19 min a game and 3ppg to 33 min and 21. Shame Rush hasn't got a clue. Tomorrow will be a good test against the Braves
Let's see how they bounce back against a losing Cobras and with Polk in town for the last home game look out.
Rush does not have the Chargers using the post player and hasn't all season particularly since hunt left. Evidenced by the number of shots the 4/5s have been able to take a game. Taking Tunks out would not have altered the established game plays. Rush is like most modern Australian coaches, they think the bigs are only on the court to clean up the rebounds from the hail of rank three point shots they are prepared to put up.
Rush said "It's more about being a basketball side that the community is proud of." Clearly got that wrong.
"I think we have a nice mix,” Wrong again.
Yet again, "He’s more than just a workhorse,” Rush said. "Shane’s a guy who’s going to do some of the dirty jobs so to speak — the screening, rebounding, defending. “He’s also got a great understanding of the game, and his skill level is high for a big guy. Wrong again.
"Tunks said "It would be great to get back to the NBL, but to get there I have to focus on here and do what I need to do for Hobart, and if I do that the rest will take care of itself.” Yes it will.
“I think one of the reasons I got the job is I’ve got the history and have shown my ability to help develop people and players.” Wrong again. Players have gone backwards under the Rush system. Barker, and BJ especially.
No hate just the truth.
Rangers lose at home to Miners. Ouch. Booker obviously caught fire.
Been a pretty disappoining season for Rangers stacking the roster with Chuck Long, Lukas Walker and Chris Patton. Thought with that group they would dominate the league with little trouble.
As the season gets a bit more serious seems as if Mt Gambier are going to be the ones to beat, especially with a home draw. Who will be the other contenders Braves won both on weekend without Grant Johnson, NW Tassie just got piped by Pioneers and got Nunawading easy, Geelong can beat anyone with there best basketball...
Can't wait to see finals unfold.
Women's conferences look interesting, dandenong in a canter, Launceston keeping finals hopes alive v Bendigo for that last spot with a big win over Nunawading who have only won 1 game in over a month.
Nuna locked in a battle with Brisbane for 3rd, Some critical games over the next 2 weeks.
Dandenong in a canter, what?
Mt Gambier 19 wins
Albury Wodonga 15 wins
Geelong 13 wins
Dandenong 12 wins (same as Bendigo, Tassie and Nunawading).
SEABL women is close and if anyone is going to canter it might be the Mt Gambier girls not the Rangers!
Women's is really tight...Dandy look the class outfit thou. For me Nuna have been really disappointing this year, on paper they are tough so if they get it together they could be a danger just haven't seen it yetto have faith this could happen.
Brisbane women also a danger as match up well with other finals teams.
In Nunas defence they lost Cole who really was the catalyst for them as the whole offence etc seemed to revolve around her, they don't look like they have made any adjustments since her injury.
Really wouldn't surprise if Brisbane made a good finals run
Not sure my gambier were fair dinkum tonight. Daly didn't play. Burdon didn't play in the last quarter bench guys got some good minutes. They looked disinterested for most of the game. Nothing to gain by winning or going all out. Young point guard who ran the show for them tonight showed some promise.
Guaranteen playoff spot on the line and Rush must think he is still coaching the under 10's. Never seen 4 players subbed at the one time.
Import playing 21 mins is a worry and White 1/7 and 1/5 3pa is a bad night for him.
Polk next weekend will be another test for the Chargers.
Well if anyone was keen to understanding what was happening in the SEABL in 2015.. They would learn that pretty much everyone hates Ben Rush and Shane Tunks..
I'm starting to realize why Australian basketball is declining.. Had a chance to speak about positive things/ people that were going on in the league. Rally and speak of your favorite teams and players.
Why is no one speaking about the playoffs or the MVP races?
No hate for either of above mentioned. Love the competition that has a quality side like Nunawading fighting for a play-off spot in the last round of season. The Hobart stuff is a sad indictment on those that have perpetuated it. There are good/bad players and coaches in all sport. Rest assured most of, if not all, are doing their best and wouldn't be playing/coaching if they were as bad as some posters make them out to be.
Mt Gambier will he back to the big dance for the third straight year and think they will take out the title for back to back championships. Damian Johnson should win the MVP by a mile fills up every stat category and has been first or second in each category for the team in so many games this year, but fear that he doesn't score enough points to win the award because usually it simply awarded to some close to the best average points per game.
What are the thoughts of others???
I was bored so i did a top 6 MVP analysis LOL
-Roy Booker (Ballarat)- (1) Scoring, (3) Assists, (1) 3-Pointers Made, (1) Turnovers
--- Roy Booker is a scorer! No surprise here. Has basically willed his team back into the playoff hunt and should definitly get a lot of credit for that! Averaging over 5 turnovers a game (113)!!!! and isn't in the top 25 for steals, probably shows he doesn't care much for defense.
-DQ (Dandy)- (2) Scoring, (2) Total FT Made
--- DQ can also score but has also put up a lot of shots to get there. Has shot the ball over 20 times in 10 of his 22 games. Is shooting 29% from the 3 and 43% overall. No question Dandy would struggle without him and probably would be a fringe finals team with another import. (Hard to really say tho)! When he is hot he is pretty unstoppable but he doesn't rebound at a high rate for a guy of his size in this league, not even top 20 (only 7.9)!
-Cory Dixon (Albury)- (3) Scoring, (2) Rebounds, (2) Offensive Rebounds, (4) Blocks, (3) Total FT Made, (4) Turnovers
--- Averaging a double-double (21.2 & 11.2)(14 double doubles) and shooting the ball at 54% (Only player in top 5 scoring shooting over 50%). Albury is #1 in the division for the first time in probably EVER. Before the season started i would have said this was going to be the Deba George show but obviously not the case. Shoots very poorly from FT (62%) but is actually leading the league in the amount of FT attempted by over 20 (100-161). Blocks some shots (32) and is top 15 for steals (26). Averages over 2 turnovers a game.
-Tony Lewis (Bendigo)- (4) Scoring, (1) Rebounds, (1) Offensive Rebounds, (3) Turnovers
--- Reigning MVP and double double machine (19 of 24 games)!! Would have said Tony was a for sure lock to repeat, first half of the season was very strong. Second half was just OK. Last 12 games shot 8-47 from the 3 (17%) but ended the season shooting 33% from 3 and 43% overall. Not great numbers especially from a undersized PF. Rebounded at a high rate all year and won the rebounding crown by a good amount. Only had 3 blocked shots all year but didn't foul much, so he obviously was just keeping his hands up on defense. Lets be honest Bendigo would be a train wreck without him.
-Shane Mcdonald (Nun.)- (1) Assists, (3) FT %
--- Played solid all year and really made his teammates around him better (8 assists a game). Had to deal with injuries and inconsistent play from his team, basically being knocked out of the playoffs really hurt his chances. If Simon Conn doesn't get hurt and he had more consistent play from teammates than Shane is a top choice. Great year though and wish him the best in NZ.
-Damian Johnson (MTG)- (5) Offensive Rebounds, (1) Blocks, (2) Steals
--- Monster defensive season (84 blocks and counting & 53 steals)!! Team finishes first overall and basically owned the league all season. He always filled the stat sheet but only dominated on the defensive end. He was on a team with a lot of talent and wasn't required to score a lot (15.7 points) so he was able to focus more effort into the defensive end. He shot 27% from the 3 and 61% from the free-throw line. My personal opinion is i need more from the offensive end from him to earn MVP. He is NO QUESTION Defensive MVP. It would make a easier case if he is doing these things for a team not as talented. Also if he was in the Top 10 for rebounds (#11) and averaged a higher assist clip (2.4).
My MVP vote- ....... very very close race between Tony Lewis and Cory Dixon!
great analogy of the MVP race!
I just think there is to much emphasis placed on stats particularly the offensive ones. It would be great to see a defensive beast win the award. Take Dj out of the pioneers and they would have lost many more games. He willed them over the line and stepped up when needed on offensive end in the stretch, it is not always about how much you score but when you score. He block shot numbers and steals are ridiculous, and when you add to this the number of shots he must of changed or caused turnovers by players second guessing themselves is ridiculous. It is also a good point that he could score far more than he does as could many of his team mates but they all play their role on any given to get the win in my eyes that adds to your value as a player rather than detracts compare this to someone like Booker who appears to be all about him (offensive end) compared to team.
Lady Chargers screwed but inept kids reffing at SEABL level. Pressure was on down the stretch in the last of the final quarter. Someone apparently yelled from the crowd with a technical foul being called on the bench. Nash protested the call and was immediately pinged for walking onto the court as he protested and then ejected. It clearly shows how good communication skills are required as a ref and if the refs listed to Nash and the court captain none of this should have occurred.
Unfortunately the refs who are teenagers have little of those skills and immediately under the pump adopt the these are the rules and we will enforce them to the letter of the law.
No person was singled out as the offender and this is where the letter of the law should not be enforced.
Incompetence at it's greatest resulting in 3 free throws being awarded and 2 free throws for the initial foul. Why 3 free throws were awarded is equally as mystifying.
Let's hope the SEABL investigate this one unlike the Tunks kicking and resultant non interest.
Pretty hard not to be upset at the poor reffing decision that caused the incident in the first place. I am unsure if it was a 3 point attempt or not. 7 shots were awarded in the last 6 seconds.
Scheer fouled Fryters, Chilcott tech. Tech foul on the bench for the crowd incident,(which is clearly wrong) a tech foul for protesting the incorrect call and walking on the court, then Out.
Very poor reffing.
Nash openly admitted in the paper about their pathetic rebounding and never used the excuse for them losing other than playing poorly.
i don't think I've left a hobart game thinking the umpiring was well done..week in, week out they make some shitty calls..it doesn't bother me personally who wins, although it's always good to see hobart get over the line. it's more Friday night entertainment..more often than not it's inconsistent and favouring the away team
I was there the other week and to use the word entertainment is laughable. No crowd interaction with anyone simply because there is no entertainment at all. The Cheerleaders dance and are now being prompted to support the teams which has never been an issue ever. I saw the Lady Chargers team manager begging the cheerleaders to get involved in the game. Such was their disinterest. All of the activities at half time. 1/4 time etc have disappeared. Entertainment only now comes from the laughable subbing and Rush's antics sorry to say.
Plus Nash getting ejected was laughable.
Yeah its terrible isn't it. Coached by the James Hird of the SEABL its far more than about losing out on a finals spot by one game.
Rush has no chemistry with the team. Team members have said worst season ever, glad it's over. Alienating fans and crowd support seeing the lowest crowd numbers probably in the whole history of the club. Coaching a very talented Tassie side that he inherited that has been playing together for the last 6 years, doesn't equate to being able to coach adults.
More tech fouls awarded to him that in the whole of the Chargers history and he's that dumb to get ejected in the Kilsyth away game because he is so paranoid about the x's and o's that time ran out.
Poor media skills, poor after game speeches consisting of talking to the ground when speaking.
It will be interesting to see if Mrs Rush wins and Mr Rush stays home next season. My bet is hopefully Mrs Rush wins.
So the Chargers finish the season 10-14 under their new highly paid coach where last year the team finished 9-17 with 3 coaches and 4 players gone at seasons end.
20% of the crowd left after the women's game finished and another 20% left at half time of the men's game.
Where to now for this once proud club?
Kevin White would be the only starter you would want back 100% and then see if Masunda can help bring his teammates into the game if he stays. Time for Wright and Tunks to go. Wright and Deba feuded on the court all last year seeing who could shoot first and as much as Deba cost the team wins with bad shots he got them over the line a few times, put bums on seats and interacted with the fans.
A couple of good juniors have just returned to Hobart so if they stick around with some solid imports the finals are achievable as SEABL has no real depth across the league with the exception of a couple of teams.
Can we get back to the season?!
Big surprise is Nunawading not making the playoffs.
A roster Hobart and Frankston would kill to have. Shane Mac, Conn, Ballinger, Graham and Hogan as imports. A solid SEABL level bench with O'Hea, Steele, Casperz, Van Rennen. Losing Grand finalists and East Conference Champs in 2014. No action in 2015? What happened to them?
So who are people tipping for the first round of playoffs? I only follow the mens competition so will only post those games.
Mt Gambier v Bendigo
Pioneers for me. They have been cruising for the last few weeks resting players in preparation, they will be cherry ripe. Tony Lewis was very ordinary last time he played in Mount gambier. Bendigo will need a huge game from him if they are any chance. Pioneers by 10 points.
NW Tasmania v Kilsyth
Kilsyth havent put it together this year. With Narburgs out I think they will struggle down in Tassie. Thunder are a good side and could cause some upsets this post season. Thunder by 10 points.
Albury Wodonga v Geelong
Although Albury have been top for most of the year and at home I think losing their point guard will hinder them. The experience of Geelong I think will get them the win. Geelong by 3 points.
Dandenong v Ballarat
I think Dandenong will win this comfortably. They have found form at the right time of the season with DQ on fire. I dont think Ballarat will have an answer for him. Booker will try and win the game himself which will actually hinder his team. Dandenong easily by 15 Points.
Think nunawading missing is a surprise but you look at stats and they rarely had a full roster and once Conn went down were always gonna struggle & you could tell Balls was lacking game time. Also the import graham went down for a crucial part of the year.
Also they got the import selection of hogan wrong he was terrible, held the ball and one on one stuff all the time he made them look horrible when having to run the point which hurt with McDonald missing games early and have no rest once back.
Every year I reackon 1 team always misses out that on paper should be in playoffs normally its injuries, poor imports or bit of both. That said you'd expect Biwer & nunawading won't take missing playoff lightly so you'd expect some changes as with all rosters that miss playoffs
Graham and Hogan both waste of money and nobody expect them to be back next year. Ballinger looked like he enjoyed playing with the Spectres so could be back next year. With both Conn and Ballinger the team will need to look for a very athletic small forward or they become too slow. More time for the younger players will also strengthen the team overall .
Agreed they have depth but think ppl might overrate a few bench guys whom haven't done a lot, outside of Ohea off the bench what other depth did they have
Looking at the stats Cadperz hasn't played many games in 3 years, Hrounplous hardly plays and games he gets minutes they loose or numbers aren't great, Breda never really plays, Vanreenan appears a defensive guy in limited mins.
Not sure bout the depth when you actually lay it out when you look at Dandy playing 7 deep the with young players performing in SEABL pushing for more minutes & Kilsyth good kids pushing for time, that Pleating kid is case in point
For young players they need to take there chances dandys kids did this year as do NWT kids when they get minutes.
I'm sorry, but a line-up consisting of:
Should 100% be playing in the SEABL post-season. Even with one injury and they have the depth to cover. Canberra, Frankston, Sandringham, don't have that much depth. Even Kilsyth aren't blessed with that much depth. This season is a failure For Nunawading. Simple. Dandenong as they are currently aren't as deep (if they still had Patton, maybe). Yet they made finals.
For a club like Nunawading, appearing in the post-season is an expectation, however the club had a really rough time with injuries.
Conn went down with a long-term injury which is when they picked up Ballinger (so he's a late entrant). Took Adam a while to mesh with the system, which is more than I can say for Hogan who didn't ever really mesh. Conn then ripped up his calf muscle, which is a terrible injury for a tall and takes a while to rehab.
Macca remains the best PG in SEABL however the bench, aside from Matt O'Hea, is made up of developing Nunawading ex-Juniors. Steel, Cooke, Hronopoulos, Breda and VanRennen are all still developing, and Jesse Caspersz is still coming back from a horrendous injury.
Don't forget last season the Spectres had Tommy Greer on the Court and a unit of Macca, Ohea, Steel, Greer and Conn is not to be sneezed at. Delwyn Graham isn't a good fit although had some good isolated performances. Aside from Ohea, no real perimeter threat.
Conn was injured again late in the season, as was Ballinger, and Macca was still rehabbing his ankle early in the season, so yes an unfortunate set of circumstances. The young guys are expected to step up next season, and you'll see much more of Jesse Caspersz, Jon Cooke (a 6'9" Centre who's returned from US) Breda and Hronopoulos. There's also a bit of talent in the YLM squad who will transition into the SEABL squad in the next season or two.
So an unfortunate set of circumstances, two injuries to key offensive player, and poor fit with imports Graham and Hogan. All fixable.
Rush and Nash won't return. Family reasons has been thrown around for several weeks as the reason. Neither has groomed a successor and there will be another scramble.
Club is planning a major reload if Lance remains as sponsor//president, if. Board to be gutted and attempt repair massive loss with public.
Money will be a major problem - Lance or not. Also don't expect many players to return bar the handful of locals.
Talk that they want Stewart back as their face. Greenwood to footy also hurt.
Stewart isn't interested right now. Rush has another year to go on his contract. Stewart is keen to get back to coaching and said on TV the other night he's interested in 1 -5 years time.
Nash spends 3 -4 days a week working in Melbourne and with a young family and SEABL commitments that's a tough gig.
As he said in the article above players play for the coach and that could be a problem if he doesn't go ahead.
The Lady Chargers were what kept the Chargers alive last season and who knows where they will go without Nash at the helm.
Rush has alienated the general public and there were more people going to the Ladies game than the men's.
Rush has certainly run the players into the ground mentally and I spoke to a player not long ago and the quote was I am certainly this season is over. Would they play under Rush again? I doubt it. The young kids aren't at SEABL level, but who would coach the Men? The only reason Rush was selected was that on paper he was the most qualified.
That means mothing as we all know now he can't coach adults. No chemistry with the team, no passion for the club and the personality of a brick.
The excuse when he quits will be family reasons. Let's hope it happens and heaven help the new coach.
If Lance quits the club they are gone.
Best part about all of this is that there is every chance he will be gone and next season HUSH on RUSH.
Disappointed that it was only mentioned 156 times. Did you look up the word cancer too? Clueless? 4 subs at once? Best defence ever? Ugly basketball?
Only one member (import) joined the Lady Chargers since Nash took over. WNBL contracts to Whisler and Chilcott is the reason they won't return and Nash won't want to coach an uncompetitive team. The club may miss Steves money but he is more unpopular than Rush.
Yes he may be more unpopular than Rush but without his money the club would have folded.
He did sit on the coach selection panel and helped chose Rush. He allowed Rush to take his own salary and car from the budget he was allowed for the players.
No one has ever been paid a lot as Head Coach and many in the past did it for nothing or not much.
Mainly because they loved the club and everyone involved.
In Rush's first and hopefully last foray into the adult world he has dragged the club into an all time low. Last seasons bottom of the ladder performance was a cake walk compared to the my way or the highway coaching.
Lowest ever crowds, no atmosphere and no crowd interest or involvement in their team what so ever.
Poor game presentation, worn out volunteers and a general malaise about the club.
lance got his way with the removal of Davie last season and is now the captain of the Titanic.
It comes down to cash and culture in SEABL now.
You can spend s little less in your local players if the culture is good and people want to keep playing, this hopefully allows you to spend on better imports or recruiting missing pieces to fit your roster.
NWT seem to do this quite well as do Albury at time (if they get imports right) it can be tough with imports but often just as tough is culture to get those extra locals.
Hopefully hobartget back on track and the politics doesn't play out in public as it hurts everyone and let's be frank the dudes who tip in will want a say so understand that's how it always works
Thunder are cashed up compared to the Chargers. Always have been. Let's face it in Tas there is never enough local talent anywhere near SEABL level. You have to buy a successful team, the NW Coast and Launceston stick to one team. Hobart will never compete trying to finance a men's and women's team. No home court, no bar no canteen takings. Relying on sponsors means relying on success. Expect a few down years to come I fear.
It's a shame that the Thunder don't have a women's team. Then the pain starts. So when Tall Timbers doesn't contribute where will the Thunder be?
Right now the Chargers would be better leaving the Men behind and go for the WNBL. Yet Nash may not be there so that's another spanner in the works for the crumbling Chargers.
Hobart have shown that they cannot support 2 SEABL sides. Revenue would have to increase at least ten fold to even consider WNBL level so not realy an option. Need a home court venue and the backing of a whole association like manyof the other SEABL teams.
Chargers will never get the backing of a local association. The crowds have now fallen to an all time low, and the disconnect between the basketball community and the chargers is massive. As an organization, when you set out the disturb the fabric of local competition, I guess where the results are felt are at the door. It's a nasty circle, no door no money, no money no players, no players no results, no results no door. I guess when the president is also the main sponsor you can afford this type situation, in the short term!
President pulled the Australian imports out of local league as Tunks complained it was too rough. One out all out was the presidents decision.
Oh that's right a few weeks later Tunks pulled a guy down by the neck and kicked him.
No team culture and what history and success the men's program had has been lost because of bad board decisions or cashing the dollar instead of treating people the right way.
Can't afford a WNBL team? You obviously don't know how much money they have wasted this season then.
How much for a WNBL team incidentally?
Talent is a different story of course and they don't have the talent obviously and it will get worse if Nash isn't there next season.
If Rush leaves who will take over? The only reason he got the job in the first place was he was the most credentialed applicant. Just proves that papers and coaching kids, doesn't translate into the ability to relate to men, let alone the ability to coach.
Hopefully we have seen the last of Rush. It will take years to rebuild the damage Rush has done.
So Assist149 how is your boy Rush going? Will Mrs Rush rule?
If you seriously think that the Chargers don't spend over $200K, then think again.
Rush's player budget was at least $90 - $95K alone. Of course he took his $20 - $25k ;) from the players.
The Chargers are quite capable of affording a WNBL team.
I would just like to congratulate those eight teams going into conference finals this weekend, SEABL is in a healthy place I feel, we have teams from all over Victoria and on the boarders of S.A and N.S.W.
Shame QLD and TAS dropped out, but to have the spread we have at the end, or near end of the season bodes well for the competition IMHO.
Good luck to Bendigo, Mount Gambier, Geelong, Albury/Wodonga, Dandenong and Kilsyth, we the best teams win.
As long as they are wearing red of course, Go Supercats ...
The idiots gone. Hopefully there is no chance the Chargers will make the same mistake again.
Despite all the hoo haa about Davie coaching the season before the current President got rid of him. It is the current President that personally participated in Rush's selection and now look at the mess the club is in. It's a far more complicated issue than just a coach who can only coach kids.
He's now got his wish and as BTAS development officer in the North, let's hope he doesn't stuff that up like the Chargers. Hooray and good riddance.
Stewie has already expressed interest in doing it again, so here's hoping.
Hobart need something well before next year. With the Board overlooking Joseph and appointing the cancer in Rush, the President threatening to walk out if Davie wasn't sacked they have minimal people to go to in this time of crisis.
Nash wont do it again so a double dilemma for the Chargers.
Coupled with massive financial losses, the time under Rush was a total disaster in anyway you can think.
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