Anonymous
Years ago

U19 gems training camp.

Australian U19 Gems Training Camp Roster

Chloe Bibby - VIC

Kasey Burton – VIC

Madeleine Dennis – WA

Montana Farrah-Seaton - NSW

Alliyah Fareo – NSW

Alicia Froling – QLD

Ella Hellessey – VIC

Chantel Horvat – VIC

Ezi Magbegor – VIC

Anneli Maley – VIC

Mikayla Pirini – WA

Lauren Scherf – VIC

Alex Sharp – VIC

Demi Skinner – SA

Alanna Smith – VIC

Elizabeth Tonks – NSW

Tahlia Tupaea – NSW

Kristy Wallace – QLD


No antoniadou or McKay?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Final squad?

Wallace/Pirini
Tupaea/Seaton
Maley/sharp/horvat
Froling/smith/hellessey
Scherf/fareo

Very tough decision. So many good players.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Pirini or tonks a better fit at pg than antoniadou? or is it because they go to the centre of excellence?

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dane suttle  
Years ago

No Rebecca Pizzey? Started almost all the Vic Metro games, second leading scorer and very tough inside.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Aokuso and brook were both pretty good bigs too.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Apart from Wallace, tupaea and Seaton, are there no other reliable outside shooters?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No hoycard either?

Ezi for u17... Not ready for u19 I think.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Pirini or tonks a better fit at pg than antoniadou? or is it because they go to the centre of excellence

Antoniadou is a strong PG/shooting guard, defensive and offensive player, so I'd say being at CofE has given the other two a spot over her, crazy when you consider the versatility, and her 3 pt shooting.add her speed and tenacity.

Looking at that line up they are light on guards
Fareo is still injured and Dennis has not shown much, who picks the line up Joyce or Gorri?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah antoniadou is tenacious on defence, Something we desperately need. She's also a descent outside shooter like you said. Don't understand it.... Thought she was clearly our 2nd best pg.

The sf position is so stacked. Can't believe that one or two of maley, sharp, horvat, skinner will miss out. They all can supposably play the 2 but more naturally fit the 3 or even the 4 position.
Although, It is possible that they will only go with 1 true centre in scherf, which means that froling and smith more than likely will backup. Making roster space for another guard or sf.
Fareo is a big body but we haven't seen her standout(has played much college ball either). McKay on the other hand who is virtually the same build has stood out at nationals and on her way to st Mary's. I do not why she's not there?

For me Hellessey is underrated and would be a shoe in at the 4 position behind froling/smith. Much prefer her at this point in time over magbegor, Dennis, bibby etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree^ Fareo has not played any college really she's only just come off crutches, skinner has an injury too that going to see her miss the SEABL season,
And no good defensive players all, Antoniadou would have been their strongest defensive guard for sure
And why only 18 going to camp don't they usually take more?
Maybe Antoniadou is not available, college commitments might be the issue as it seems strange such a strong guard would miss out
Hellesey has been shooting really well for her bigv championship side, think Magbegor is not ready for this level but will star at un17s for sure, her physical body and game iq is not mature enough yet to match those big European and American posts.but a future star for sure.
Bibby to small for the five and not mobile enough for the 3,
Will be a very slow team in the guards with Tupaea and Pirini , lot of work for wallace to handle on her own.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Best side possible imo.

wallace/antoniadou
Tupaea/Seaton/horvat
Maley/sharp
Froling/smith/hellessey
Scherf/McKay

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If skinner is injured, why would she be in camp?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Possible budget constraints for camp impact invites.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Heard that was an issue with the u 19 mens budget restraints , but seems silly when most of the athletes are already up at the institute, how broke is BA

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Antoniadou going to Nebraska or Florida state?
Alex sharp possibly Virginia tech, Washington state, wake forest?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sharp, Anton - have they signed ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dunno yet.
Milisic looks to be signing with the Lobos also?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Scherf still going to college?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No heard Sherf hasxan agent and is going pro so no college for her. Bad move IMO she'still really needs a lot of work but don't think college was an option

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Going pro? You mean wnbl?
She ain't good enough for Europe or wnba.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Milisic to USC

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think these are some signings for next season. Not sure if they are all correct...

Alanna smith 6'3 Stanford
Megan McKay 6'3 st Mary's
Danijiela milisic 6'4 Southern California
Bridget obrien 6'2 Winthrop
Madeleine Dennis 6'2 Dayton
Taylah Hepburn 6'2 San Diego
Anais kirvan 6'2 Fresno state
Megan trinder 5'8 Oregon
Sara anastasieska 5'11 Texas at san Antonio
Courtney woods 6'1 Northern Illinois
Sammi Deakin sharpe 5'8 Nicholls state
Tylah king 6'0 pacific
Mikayla delcastegne 5'9 Hartford
Ashley taia 6'0 Indiana state
Yasmin miller 6'1 coastal Carolina
Kaylee biddell 6'3 Seattle

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bridgette oneill 6'2 Idaho

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many of those schools are ranked in top 20?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

1 I believe. Stanford. Alanna.
If Rachel antoniadou goes to Florida state. That would make 2 players in top 20.
Wallace at Baylor would make 3 players in top 20 schools.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's a lot of girls going for the 2015 I take already compared to last few years which is great to see

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah, could end up with 30 girls going to college next season.
Same for the boys..
Like twice as much as previous years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another one.
Jasmine trimboli 5'10 South Dakota

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Are they all div1 colleges or some div2 as well

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Anonymous  
Years ago

D1

Bunch of girls going to d2 also.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Suppose it's better than having hex fees and sitting on the bench in senior basketball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Antoniadou has signed to Florida State according to ProspectsNAtion.

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anon  
Years ago

great opportunity good women's program there, a ranked 7th in NCAA Div1, good to see an Aussie picked up at one of the top schools.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I can't see her getting too many minutes in the first 1-2 seasons with Romero in the backcourt.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Now.. Would people prefer Pirini or tonks running the point over antoniadou at u19's?
A girl at one of the top schools is not even going to be at camp?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Doesn't make any sense at all really, she's been a standout guard for a long time, but her future looks good, a very good opportunity and from reading the FSU coaches comments looks like she will integrate into their system straight away, they only have four guards for next year at FSU, Antoniadou only freshman guard and only other PG along with the Spanish forward who's been recruited, maybe this is why she's not at camp???
Think Un19s could certainly use her though

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The camp is in late May I think. Is she holidaying in the states or something?
Currently tonks is getting more minutes at Coe than Pirini.
Maybe someone else knows if tonks would make a quality backup to Wallace?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wouldnt run tonks as PG at all, she's a bit like Lavey has one thing, fast burst that's it, but if that's what joyce likes then she's a shoe in
Pirini too slow but smart guard, only plays PG too inconsistent as a shooter
Neither great defenders.
Let's hope Wallace doesn't get injured or they are stuffed

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If no Rachel.. I would prefer Seaton as the other point.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Forcadilla, yaegar, rocci? Any good?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

LOL ! the Antonidou cheerleader is out in force today

Others may be slower as you claim but mental qualities come first in the business of play making. Selectors are right.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who would you prefer?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mental qualities????
How bizarre Antoniadou has very high BBIQ and is a very well respected player both on and off crt by her peers and coaches which seems obvious from all the posts

526447 obviously doesn't know her at all.

Focaldilla Yeager and rocci all good guards but younger
Only so many places and this year big budget cuts have affected how many have gone to camps both men's and women's
Lots of really good players in the Australian system think both teams should do well at worlds , let's hope so anyway

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah. makes sense...
Picked up by a top 10 college and not good enough?
Pirini/tonks cheerleader?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dennis to Dayton means we have 4 girls in top 20 schools.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hopefully more aussie will make it onto the top schools in the coming years for the girls, seems to be good interest in our australian players.
Not a lot to offer here really between the ages of 18 and 21 at any decent level , can only be a good thing for australian basketball in general

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Canada and Australia are the major international contributors to usa college ball.
Expect more players from Spain, holland, Sweden, Serbia, Czech in the near future.
Holland and Sweden are having massive growth in the women's game Imparticular.

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.  
Years ago

yes didn't holland do really well in world u17s a year or two ago ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The Dutch women's qualify for most of the world tournaments now.
A small country in terms of population but its a sports mad country.
the tallest people on average, one of the leanest, one of the strongest.
I really see them getting into the top 10 within 6 or so years.

Sweden is another team on the women's side I see potentially cracking top 10 in next few seasons (just some of the college girls, the players in Europe and the girl that just got drafted no2 wnba zahui).
Spain just have so much talent... particularly in the backcourt. Potential number 1-2 rank in the next 5 years. Salvadores(duke), Romero(Florida state) etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

European basketball for women is huge and a very good standard plus they get paid well unlike Australia and USA. When you have a sport promoted supported and respected it makes sense that the standard of the players will continue to rise .
Australia unfortunately will probably be going down hill on a rapid decline , no government backing (Joyce took most of the budget in wages) no media promotion for the women and men not much better so that negates big sponsors. Good players head overseas. Those European countries do not have places like CofE yet they are producing amazingly talented juniors!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon^ you make some interesting points, notwithstanding your crack at Joyce for what they may be paying him, but the other comments about European players and how they will dominate the women's game in years to come.

I would like to examine the fact that here in Australia, just like in scooer, in basketball we have a very multicultural group of girls coming through with many European links.

Our gene pool looks pretty darn good, I am sure if we can continue to coach them properly they will do quite well internationally.

Maybe you are right, the best of them will head overseas to play for the bigger dollars, which will be a shame for our local leagues, but if they still suit up for the green and gold I am suggesting we will be as good as those countries you predict will be the big improvers.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

soccer, sorry for typo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What I would like to see here is a program to encourage and support more indiginous girls into the sport, also those migrants from african nations that come over here and may want to have a go at playing. Spend more dollars in these areas and in years to come you will see some amazing talent.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6738 ..... Got nothing what so ever to do with the gene pool they come from if the funding is not there to support it, if the sport is not promoted to gain the interest then your just NOT going to get the players no matter what their heritage is to take up the sport . Their is a saying 'the best musicians are yet to pick up an instrument" which translates to if the access is not available the opportunity is missed.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Look at the list of players at the start of this thread anon^, are saying there is no talent in that group?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No not at all loads of talent it's in the years to come can we sustain and continue with less and less support for the sport

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lots more talent in the pipeline. Are you talking decades perhaps?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not decades but the future does not look bright for australian basketball with so
Many budget cuts and the reduction of media exposure. And if the talent that we currently have and the few that are coming through in un16/18 head off overseas because there is/will be not a lot here then if they are any good they won't be heading back here they will go to Europe to the money or NBA/WNBA . You cannot judge un14s as talent at this stage and if their is not enough money put into the national, state and local levels then nothing will be developed its quite simple really.
But this is waaaaay off topic lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think it was a mistake not bringing one of the best defensive guards in antoniadou when we know that the majority of the teams we will come up against have great back courts. I hope I'm wrong...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yep couldn't agree more ^ but that's basketball fior you

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tupaea???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tupaea was supposebly poor at u17 worlds running the point.
I Think she will be starting at sg like at u19 Oceanias beside Wallace.

I think the final squad will be.
Wallace 1/2
Pirini 1
Tupaea 2/1
Seaton 2/1
sharp 2/3
horvat 3/2
skinner 3/2
Maley 3/4
A.froling 4/5
smith 4/5
hellessey 4/5
Scherf 5

Starting 5
Wallace, tupaea, maley, froling, scherf.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm not sure tupaea or scherf are headed to college???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

She was super duper poor

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tupaea very slow up the crt on defence but good around the key as she's hard to get around but no way can she keep up with a fast guard up the crt so Wallace will have a lot of running to do . Smart player though.
Sherf not going to college ..... Don't know about Tupaea

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace will play 30+ minutes every game in the one or two spot, still waiting to see Tupea break into a sweat at any level.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Antoniadou would have been a good addition that's for sure its a long tournament plus the lead up games lets hope Wallace doesn't get injured at any stage

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tupea can wipe the floor with Antonidu. She is legit at WNBL level.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Totally different players mate both extremely good in their own right but tupaea would have to catch Antoniadou first lol

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Anon  
Years ago

Tupea won't be going to college because if you read the WNBL website she has resigned with the Flames for 2yrs I believe.

She has also been at the Opals camp following the Gems camp.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's not foot speed, it is poor decision making and over possessing the ball. Not a team first player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Did everyone watch Tupaea in WNBL this year? She was getting defensive assignments on the quickest guards in the league, and PICKPOCKETING them with ease. She had numerous impressive steals when I was watching. Quickness is not an issue for her, and you shouldn't assume so just because she's got a bit of weight to drop.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace and tupaea are a great combination in the backcourt.

Pirini and Seaton, not a good combo... Drop in size, shooting, defense, playmaking, strength. Basically everything.

Antoniadou and sharp would have been the next best combination in terms of both offense and defence. Seaton is a role player who reads the game quite well, a good scorer but poor defender. Occasionally playing with kristy or Rachel.

Backcourt.
28m-Wallace/12m-antoniadou
20m-Tupaea/12m-sharp/8m-Seaton

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Anonymous  
Years ago

some of the girls that can play combo guard headed to college... Are they any good?
Sammi Deakin sharpe
Courtney woods
Mikalyla delcastegne
Tylah king

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wallace and Antoniadou combination on crt is a good combination too

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Vodka 24  
Years ago

6901 - U20 Nats stats tell the story of current form - woods 4th highest scorer at the tournament. if they're going to college, there will be highlights and game film on youtube.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woods is a pure shooter and scorer that can distribute the ball.

Really shocked that Antoniadou missed out. She plays hard with a great IQ.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like Antoniadou may have not had a good U20 Nationals - maybe its as simple as that and lack of resources keeps the camp to a minimum.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's simply because Rachel doesn't go to the Coe but Pirini and tonks both do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

She outplayed them both on the weekend when Rangers played Cof E apparently

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think it's really gonna hurt us in the tournament. I can't see Wallace playing 30 + mins a game almost everyday for a week straight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Plus the week before in the pre tournament games it's a big ask

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Both pirini and tonks don't look to be contributing much on the stats sheet in the seabl playing 15-25 mins a game. Not a good sign?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think tonks will get the nod over Pirini.
Bigger, faster, stronger, better shooter, better defender, produces more assists.
Suprised woods didn't get a shot at 1/2, Maybe college is getting in the way there also.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Woods and Wallace played together at Spartans in Brisbane all through Juniors,very handy back court that had lots of success.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who is Woods never heard of her?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Courtney woods 6'1 combo guard.
Signed with Northern Illinois.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sammi Deakin sharpe. Is she 96 born?
Thought she was a descent all round player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

has woods ever been in the squad?
Pirini is a little out of her depth, and Tonks wont match those international guards.
Wallace will have her hands full on her own

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Anonymous  
Years ago

For sure...
We are pretty deep in all the other positions except pg.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Watched the seal game, Coe against Kilsyth...
Thought tonks looked a little better than Pirini. She's bigger, a better defender and looks to be a better shooter. Maybe even a tad faster.

Also
Yaegar just signed for Oregon Ducks 2016
Hellessey is going to tcu horned frogs 2016

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Any thoughts on final roster?
Tonks will play backup pg?
Fareo, hellessey, magbegor, Dennis.... Who will be called up to backup froling, smith and scherf?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think the team might be a surprise...
No tonks, no Pirini, no fareo.

Wallace/tupaea
Seaton/sharp/horvat
Maley/skinner
Froling/smith/hellessey
Scherf/magbegor


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