Wonderer
Years ago

2015 u19s Aus v Italy

Ok, so after reading all of the wisdom about who should and shouldn't have been picked...... I want to ask a more technical question. I understand that the offence the team is running is one which is being promoted by BA, but it doesn't seem to suit our players.

Too much reliance on outside shots, no post catches and too many out of control floaters. There also seems to be lots of action well away from the hoop. I might be old school, but the few times we throw it inside good things seem to happen. Our posts seem to be redundant except for rebounding, which we need to be better at...it all seems really rushed.

I'm sure everyone there is giving it their best but I wonder how much control the coach has over the style of play being used?

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Dunk  
Years ago

WMW just did a 1 hand dunk.

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Wonderer  
Years ago

Also, watching the livestream, someone should remind the coach that he can be heard...you cant just keep yelling "Jordan, just guard someone"....

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KingJames  
Years ago

You shouldn't be surprised that the offense is like that since Mark Radford is one of the coaches. Not sure why BA would employee him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Terrible coach.
Defence is horrible.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

My goodness....
Something s wrong with ba.

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Bear  
Years ago

One minute to go and another tight game for our boys...

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m  
Years ago

McVeigh can score but he can be a block hole sometimes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why not play with heart the entire match?

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Bear  
Years ago

Dajan comes up with another miracle 3 pointer, scores level, maybe overtime??

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Dunk  
Years ago

In the last few seconds, they decide to play Glover. Great decision.

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Bear  
Years ago

Bugger, that was a nice drive to the basket, heartbreaking loss for our boys. Two tough games, we just couldn't quite get it done...

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KingJames  
Years ago

On the last play they got the ball out of Italy's main player's hands and the offense was out of sync and the coach yells out to foul. Why would they do that? Italy then had the chance to reset the offense and win the game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow allow a layup to finish. Disappointing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Missing a leader on and off the floor.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What offence On ball screen and make something happen At least when we ran structured offence we could finish in the top 8 Instead BA like to imitate the US style of play Guess thats wots got us where we r today!!!! Time to go back to what we do well

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Geremy Mckay is a joke lol. However we cant expect Australia to win games with this talent

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Losing to Italy? Weak.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why does ba choose such terrible coaches and staff...
Caporn is awful along with goris for the women's.

The only good choice is Seebohm being appointed for the u17 women's side.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

well that is a massive fail to basketball Australia.
It is very clear that adam caporn just does not have the experience to coach at in game situations. Please don't take this as direct criticism of him, he has very very limited on court coaching experience and has had development experience as an assistant at world Championships).
the selection panel for the national coaches must take the blame here.

they were so over coached during the game it was crazy the roles of each player were also very poorly defined, considering most go to the AIS and caporn has had them ever day this would suggest he may not have sufficient expereince for that role as well (another poor BA decision)

this would have to rank as one of our poorest results in quiet some time (say the first under 17 champs were we didn't have the players)

I feel so bad for the players as they had the skill and talent (albeit with the inclusion of at least Froling) to beat Canada and Italy well enough .

I do hope the new CEO does hold a fair and open review of this as (so far) this is a major fail for BA planning and development of the game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

correction
has had no development experience as an assistant at world Championships)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gonna get smoked by Greece...

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maxymoo  
Years ago

That is the most unaustralian Australian team I have seen in quite a while.

We seem to just gamble the whole time on D and the O side of things is not much better.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just guard someone? Sounds like a U12 domestic game on a Saturday down at the local stadium.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anyone calling Caporn or Seebohm terrible coaches aren't very clued up on the sport that this forum is based on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They arent that bad, its just people in this forum dont want to accept there isnt much talent there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Caporn isn't terrible, he just isn't good enough to coach at this level. Simple.

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Shayok  
Years ago

Adam Caporn's faults would probably be overlooked if he had the talents of Humphries, Maker, Maker, Simmons, Adel, and Bolden available. He probably did not expect to have such a talent depleted team. Erik Spoelstra struggled with the loss of just 1 major player, LeBron and LeBron struggled with the loss of two talented players in Bosh and Wade. It is not so much about the X's and O's as it is about the Jimmy' and Joe's.

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KingJames  
Years ago

No one said Seebohm is a bad coach.

Caporn on the other hand is looking out of his depth. The fact he made a poor selection choice is now magnifying it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I thought in this game we had handy leads during that last quarter then just when we could have put the game away we did something to turn it over or put up a bad shot and we gave Italy the chances they needed which they took.

We don't seem to have a go to player or a go to play of sorts and our offense isn't fluid and it doesn't seem to work well with this group, which is amazing sine they are all AIS and should know how each one plays.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AIS = public servants trying to save the day

if you re good go to a good college and get court time

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Get rid of BJ who overseas both men and women up at the Cof E and you might see some changes up there regarding the development of the players and the ability of the coaches to develop them.
The bulk of this team is up at the CofE 24/7 they should all know by now what THEIR role is on the court, and within the team and the coach SHOULD know the buttons to press to get the results.
But in saying that they certainly didn't get flogged in either game, and only one team can win.
Put some of those who chose not to bother making themselves available for this worlds into this team and it would have been a different scenario most likely.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I didn't watch the entire game although that out of bounds play to get a dunk attempt was a good play call out of a time out.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is game 3 tonight? Are we out now that we have lost first two or do we still have a chance?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

poor free throws, players who play soft or give up.

Wondered how Mckay was selected cant guard anyone laterally, must have been selected for his enthusiasm which is missed by other.

WMW was woeful.

2nd chance rebounds and points.

Only 1 guy who is a reliable outside shot.

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The TRuth  
Years ago

Ease up!

This team we have taken away is missing potentially 5 of our top 7 guys. Lets rattle them off:
SImmons
Maker
Humphries
Bolden
Adel

If you take that amount of SIZE & TALENT out of any team at this tournament they are a bottom feeder. Thats the reality of this group as well. Simmons & Maker may just be the best two players in the WORLD for this age group.

DJ Vaseljevic is a poor decision maker and is way too inconsistent in game. He makes some great plays yes, but his shot selection is beyond poor.

William McDowell is being found out for his inability to shoot the ball consistently, teams just going under all his ball screens. He effort defensively is so BAD as well, constantly runs into screens, doesn't fight through on balls. Scout breakdowns v Canada hurt us big time. He is a very dynamic open court player but at this next level needs to contribute the little things with a bit higher intensity and desire.

Harry Froling is the guy that should have made this team. He fills so many needs for this group. Rebounding, Scoring, perimeter shooting. Just look at the guys numbers from the last two nationals, they are off the charts. Yes he isn't the most versatile defender but lets be honest, who is in this team? Harry can fill it up in a hurry and would stretch the floor for guys like William McDowell and Tom Wilson to get in the lane and finish.

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Annoy  
Years ago

#735 U have no idea, Andrea Lemanis is the head of CoE for the mens program,Brendan Joyce runs the womens program....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And it is Lamanis that is throwing out years of good offence and structure for this new style of one on one style play It is no secret he hates the structure of old and yet what is the new structure doing for any of our teams We look lost and both Canada and Italy has great structure which saw open scoring.
This team could do so much better with structure Sure we are missing some players, but these boys with defined plays could have stepped up a lot better.
Don't think we should single out any kid or the coaches but look a bit wider at the overall program.

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Froling  
Years ago

Why was Froling not selected for the team?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You should say structure more.

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Naph  
Years ago

http://www.basketball.net.au/airbnb-emus-ready-fiba-u19-world-championship-challenge/

"After a psychically challenging preparation stage, one of our objectives is to prepare the team strategically but also freshen them up physically. (sic, including lack of closing quotation mark)

Clearly too much focus on psychic preparation :P

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fstos  
Years ago

"And it is Lamanis that is throwing out years of good offence and structure for this new style of one on one style play It is no secret he hates the structure of old and yet what is the new structure doing for any of our teams We look lost and both Canada and Italy has great structure which saw open scoring.
This team could do so much better with structure Sure we are missing some players, but these boys with defined plays could have stepped up a lot better."

Didn't we recently have another thread discussing Ben Simmons heading to US high school ball where the majority were complaining about too much structure hindering individual player development of Aussie kids.

Maybe Lemanis is looking long term player development rather than a results driven focus. Seeing as the majority of these youth teams fail to transition into the full national team and in fact even into top notch NBL players then who is to say this more unstructured style is not better for the individuals (if there are any)within the team who will be the studs of the future.

Is that not the role of the national coach. To get results for the Boomers.

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Bear  
Years ago

Also in that article - "Our biggest strength is playing with pace at both ends of the court. We are deep, mobile and versatile which lends itself to an up-tempo style of game."

Obviously a tactic well scouted by our opponents, unfortunately, as they have not allowed us that many transition baskets thus far. I believe we have gone out with an up-tempo game in our psychie but other teams knowing this will always play someone back to slow you down, knowing the plan is to attack.

The other thing I have noticed a bit is that we attack the rim given a chance to do so, but we don't hurt that defender with a short dish pass or a floater over the top. We have tried, but it almost looks like our second or third thought, it isn't instinctive.

You need to have that style of play as an instict and build it into the team's phylosophy to win games using an up-tempo style of play IMHO (The whole team has to buy into it, not what I am observing though)...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The only structure zealots are the shuffle-numpties, who usually win not because of the shuffle but because they have tons more talent than the competition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We all see what we want to see. However, I think a few people need to brush up on their facts and Stats before posting.

Andre Lemanis is head of the Mens program at the CoE. A Threepeat coach of the NZ Breakers in the NBL. Hardly someone you might call a hack as a coach. If that were the case what does that say about any other coach in the NBL?

I think Andre might know a little about how to build a program and what is required to be successful. Unless any of you think you would be a more capable CoE Head Coach?

Adam Caporn was appointed by Andre to coach the CoE Mens team.

In case some of you don't know, and someone above alluded to it, BA's CoE is all about finding and developing future players for the Boomers & Opals, so I guess that means individual games. It is not so short sighted to have Junior World Championships at the forefront of their thinking. Having said that the Men's U17 teams have won silver medals at the last two World Champs. The last one being last year where they lost by 7pts to USA.

Do some research - Find out where BA get their funding from and what bonuses or incentives are there. It is linked to the performance of the Senior Men's & Women's Programs. Not the Juniors.

Having said that, we have some wonderful players in this team that appear to be stifled and I'm not entirely sure why that is? Clarke, Krebs & Wilson are all capable of much more. Wilson in particualr has been solid - a good first game (pts, assts, rebds) and 2nd game (rbds, assts) however all 3 need to hit the scoreboard more heavily. All three have dominated Australian Junior Champs for many years and had far superior stats to many. However, all three appear like they either don't want to shoot it or are not allowed to shoot it. All 3 have stats in Nationals going back years where they have 3 point shooting %ges in the high 30's.

Why aren't they shooting it more is the question I would like answered.

Agree with above post about DJ, that, at times his shot selection is awful, but at least he puts up shots. Shooters need to shoot and Clarke, Krebs & Wilson need to.

We are a small team, so you'd expect we'd rely on our outside game. However we have outscored Canada 44/28 & Italy 46/16 for points in the paint. Not sure how long that trend will continue. But our 3 point shots taken was equal with Canada and Italy led us 28/13.

I think we need to mix it up a little more, drive and dish more and have at least three shooters on the floor at all times and encourage them all to shoot it. If you don't shoot you don't score, period.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another question is are these game really worth the trouble and expense involved. They are playing in front of no one really, 30 people max. Would it be better if they instead just entered teams in tournaments like the Chinese national team does, do they really get much out of these tournament, apart from the obvious if they win.
Best part of the australian public do not even know these team exist, unlike say college ball were ESPN make it a huge event for every game they televise.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sure we can criticise the way they have played, or even team selections.

Another perspective is that they are a relatively young team that narrowly lost to a team (Canada) with several physically developed 19 year olds, including a few college players. Their leading scorer Brooks averaged 11.5 points at Oregon in a reasonably competitive Pac-12.

And the Italian team made 12 threes, contributing to over half their entire score, and we still only lost on a last second basket.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't forget Canada and Italy are missing players to just like Australia.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This tournament is worth the expense involved. Especially for Australia where juniors have otherwise no chance playing internationally against good opposition.
Reason there are only 30 people attending games is because FIBA are idiots to hold this event in the middle of nowhere. Greece is bankrupt and people are more concerned about withdrawing their cash from banks than watching basketball.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's the whole idea, send an undersized team so we have an excuse when we lose.

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Wonderer  
Years ago

Ok, having started this, was not specifically criticising players or coaches. My question is, how much influence does the Head Coach of the seniors have over the junior teams?

I understand the need to develop players and I think there is a need to teach skills and not dampen flair, while still having some offensive rules. This team is using a very structured offence ( for those who think it is just playing one on one), my problem is that it's not one that suits this group of players. For those who think they would like to coach at this level, it must be hard to be appointed then run something that you might not believe in...an offence that works for adults with dominant bigs and consistent outside shooters might be fine for the Boomers, but how many if this group will realistically be Boomers?

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billy hoyle  
Years ago

If they are going to play uptempo it starts at the defensive end....Emus are inbounding the ball too many times to play fast....Gotta get stops and run off misses and stops.

Looks like a capable offensive group but a group that needs to value defense 1st.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only one, maybe two in this team will ever play in the Boomers. Not a lot different to most years.

Need to drive and dish more and have at least three 3pt shooters on the court at all times. Especially against the bigger teams.

There's really only 4 or 5 reliable 3 pt shooters in the team: DJ, Clarke, Krebs, Wilson & McVeigh. Can't leave it all to DJ. Teams will scout him. As it stands it looks like we only have one 3pt shooter. Wilson's not getting the ball back as he's running the offence and doesn't look like he's allowed to shoot 3's. If it gets into DJ's hands he's shooting it no matter what. Nothing wrong with that as someone needs to shoot it, but at times his shot selection is atrocious, for the team he'd be better off passing some times, but he hardly ever does that.

Don't know why the coaches aren't insisting and encouraging some of the others to shoot 3's, DJ's not the best %age wise over the course of several National Under age Championships, he never has been. So why aren't the others putting up similar quantities of shots to DJ? Krebs shot 9/20 3's in the U20 National Final in February? Clarke & Wilson are both high 30%/low 40% 3pt shooters and have been for some time over several Australian Under age Championships.

If we have more shooting the 3, that way we can spread the floor and it opens up the inside game as well.

Froling would have been good in this respect as well as he can shoot 3's at a decent clip also.

If any of you are or were a shooter then you'd understand that shooters need court time and need to put up shots consistently in order to find their range, rhythm, stroke whatever you like to call it. Problem is none of the shooters are getting the consistency of minutes on the court that will allow them to hit their groove, DJ included. I think this is the single biggest mistake by the coaching staff so far. Most of Canada's & Italy's minutes went to 5 or 6 players. We've shared it around a lot more. Problem with that is it doesn't help the shooters. Krebs was on for about 1.5 minutes in the 2nd or 3rd qtr. As a shooter, how is he expected to perform with that court time?


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon^ George is a knock down 3 point shooter and at 6'7" harder to block that DJ, but seems to be seldome used in this team!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To the OP. Not really sure what you've been watching as I don't see how you can come up with some of your observations:

1. We've outscored Canada & Italy in the Paint.
2. We shot the same amount of 3PA's as Canada.
3. We shot less than half Italy's 3PA's.

IMO the coach/s have everything to do with how the team is playing including the Head Coach, Andre Lemanis. The style of play is playing the percentages. Analogous to the Oakland A's Baseball story made famous by Brad Pitt's 'Moneyball' movie. Andre has looked at what works and drive for layups (defence collapses),then dish for open 3's is the best %age way to win. He did it with NZ Breakers.

If a team could shoot 3's at the same %age as two's then no team would shoot 2's. The closer to the hoop you are the better the scoring efficiency, hence drive first, maybe even draw a foul. If all is lost dish to a big for a power layup or to an open 3pt shooter. Open 3pt shots have a far higher efficiency than contested 3's. Of course this won't work all the time, but more often than not it will against similarly skilled teams.

If you'd watched the recent NBA Finals you would've seen this in action.

As for the team not being suited to the offence. I disagree, the team is suited to it. I agree with the above post about not allowing or encouraging the other capable 3 pt shooters to shoot the 3.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^^ No disrespect, George is a good 3pt shooter, but he doesn't knock down the 3 with the same consistency as the others I've named.

Prove me wrong if you like, the stats are there from Aust Junior Championships. I think you'll find the others are more consistent at a) 3PA & b) 3PM.

Agree George is harder to block than DJ, but I stick to my observations about consistent 3pt shooters.

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anon  
Years ago

Post 543870 nailed it! I couldn't agree more.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's a tournament - you haven't got a big enough sample size to go nuts with statistics.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon #875 I think the point is that another good 3 point shooter seems not to be encouraged to put up some shots, it is being left to only two or three others who always seem to throw up plenty, but not shared around enough. You can put up all the meaningless stats from Nationals etc... that you like, they are not going to prove anything.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ There's only one player really putting up 3's - DJ, and that's my point. We need more. DJ's put up 14 of our 28 3pt attempts. Clarke, Krebs, Wilson, McVeigh, throw in George if you want need to shoot more. The coaches need to get the others at least attempting a lot more shots than they currently are.That way they all become a threat. Right now the scouts would only have DJ as the outside threat and it is very easy to shut down one 3 pt shooter. Unless we have more hitting 3's then life becomes a lot harder for DJ.

As for the sample size being small, I am referring to the Stats over several Australian Junior Championships - this is not a small sample. It is 4 or 5 Championships worth for these kids, some 25 - 30 games worth. The Stats show some are consistently good 3 point shooters, but they're not shooting it enough, IMO. Not really sure why that is. That is a question only the coaches or players can answer. But for me they need more outside shooters.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ There's only one player really putting up 3's - DJ, and that's my point. We need more. DJ's put up 14 of our 28 3pt attempts. Clarke, Krebs, Wilson, McVeigh, throw in George if you want need to shoot more. The coaches need to get the others at least attempting a lot more shots than they currently are.That way they all become a threat. Right now the scouts would only have DJ as the outside threat and it is very easy to shut down one 3 pt shooter. Unless we have more hitting 3's then life becomes a lot harder for DJ.

As for the sample size being small, I am referring to the Stats over several Australian Junior Championships - this is not a small sample. It is 4 or 5 Championships worth for these kids, some 25 - 30 games worth. The Stats show some are consistently good 3 point shooters, but they're not shooting it enough, IMO. Not really sure why that is. That is a question only the coaches or players can answer. But for me they need more outside shooters.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

^ There's only one player really putting up 3's - DJ, and that's my point. We need more. DJ's put up 14 of our 28 3pt attempts. Clarke, Krebs, Wilson, McVeigh, throw in George if you want need to shoot more. The coaches need to get the others at least attempting a lot more shots than they currently are.That way they all become a threat. Right now the scouts would only have DJ as the outside threat and it is very easy to shut down one 3 pt shooter. Unless we have more hitting 3's then life becomes a lot harder for DJ.

As for the sample size being small, I am referring to the Stats over several Australian Junior Championships - this is not a small sample. It is 4 or 5 Championships worth for these kids, some 25 - 30 games worth. The Stats show some are consistently good 3 point shooters, but they're not shooting it enough, IMO. Not really sure why that is. That is a question only the coaches or players can answer. But for me they need more outside shooters.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sorry anon^ didn't catch that, can you repeat it please? :)

Actually, you can jack up all the off balance, poorly taken 3's you want and still lose a game. Just get the ball into the hoop, yeah?

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anon  
Years ago

Can anyone please tell me whether Australia is now out of medals contention?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Still can medal

If we beat Tunisia tonight we will face either Serbia or Greece next round.

tough task to medal rounds

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ease up!

This team we have taken away is missing potentially 5 of our top 7 guys. Lets rattle them off:
SImmons
Maker
Humphries
Bolden
Adel

If you take that amount of SIZE & TALENT out of any team at this tournament they are a bottom feeder.

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I hate to burst your bubble, but USA is playing without a few of their better players, Croatia is playing without their top 2 players, Italy is missing two of their top 3 players, and Greece has been playing without 3 of its top 5 players, of which include both their starting guards and their 2nd best player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This tournament is worth the expense involved. Especially for Australia where juniors have otherwise no chance playing internationally against good opposition.
Reason there are only 30 people attending games is because FIBA are idiots to hold this event in the middle of nowhere. Greece is bankrupt and people are more concerned about withdrawing their cash from banks than watching basketball.

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Tournaments are held by which country agrees to pay for them in their entirety. Profits are made by sponsors, advertisers, and TV deals.

Greece paid for the whole tournament, and lined up the marketing deals, sponsors and a TV deal. No other country in the world did that. That is why the tournament is in Greece.

Don't be a moron.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon #719 -

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Both Adam Caporn and Paul Gorris are fantastic coaches. The only troube Adam is having at World's right now is adjusting from the American College style of play to an international basketball style of play. Please don't vilify coaches or players that you have no knowledge about.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The program has recently had their funding cut.

Less camps to prepare. Didn't get to go to Albert Schweitzer tournament in Mannheim in 2014. The Italy team they just played won that tournament.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

535018...... What a contradiction, Greece is bankrupt that's why their are no spectator, yet Greece has financed the whole thing.

Their is NO marketing done to promote these junior events period, that's why no crowd, and FIBA insist on giving it to countries that economically cannot sustain it, in the hopes it will encourage that country to do more for the sport, absolute rubbish. They need to be holding these events in countries that can and do promote it.

And agree with 535049, both these coaches are doing the best they can with what they have, especially Gorris.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There are spectators at games. But since the tourny is in Greece, most of the spectators will be Greek. And have a guess which team they want to see play? Aside from the fact that the Greeks have to work as well, which makes it a little difficult to get to games. There is the spectre of the Greek financial crisis that may prevent some from attending and paying for a ticket.

Other than that all the other countries spectators will be small - only friends and family of players, I'd guess. This is normal for any Under Age World Tournament, especially in Europe where the crowds are more parochial and only want to see their country's team play.

Looked like the Greek V Serbia game last night was a packed house.

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