Anonymous
Years ago

Delly and Cavs far apart on new deal

Not much movement between the Cavaliers and Matthew Dellavedova on a new contract. A restricted free agent, Dellavedova is seeking a multiyear deal starting at $4 million per season, per a source, and the Cavs have balked, largely due to the enormous luxury tax implications that come with that type of contract. The market has largely dried up—Jeremy Lin's deal with Charlotte closed a potential door—so it will be interesting to see how long this stalemate continues. Paging LeBron James.


http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/15/report-cavaliers-matthew-dellavedova-still-well-apart-on-new-contract/

It also doesn't help that the Cavs have signed Mo Williams to be Irving's back up now either.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

His agent must have options from other teams surely. Maybe Portland, Houston

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orbit  
Years ago

Unfortunately he got very lucky last season. He's dispensable.

Hope agent doesn't get too greedy!

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Bobby Tables  
Years ago

He is value for money at around 2 million to a team that can play defense. He shot the 3 at a good clip (~%40 IIRC) and showed that he can provide some injury insurance.

I don't see him going back to Cleveland but given all the mania that went on last season I think he'll land somewhere.

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Dunkin' Dan  
Years ago

$4 mil per season?? I love Delly but that seems ridiculous.
He'd want to find the absolute perfect situation, in terms of playing role, to subject himself to that level of expectation.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I reckon delly should be getting 6 mil as a starter. good of him to take a cut

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

Delly's welcome @ the Knicks.

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Cram  
Years ago

I think 2-3 mil is his market, meaning 4 meal is ok to start your negotiations. But the Cavs are likely sticking to something around the qualifying offer of just over one million.

The Rockets would be another good team for him to land at. Another ball dominant wing meaning he wouldnt have to create too much offense himself. Don't know if the Rockets have any room though.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If I was him I would sign up quick smart because the cavs don't need him and another club is not going to get him to play 5 minutes a game. If he doesn't sign soon he will probably play nbl this season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A guy who shoots 20% inside the paint is worth the offer sheet the cabs have already extended to him. $4 million for someone who has zero offensive ability is a joke

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wouldn't think someone who became just the 3rd undrafted player in history to have a 20 point game in an NBA Finals series has 'zero offensive ability'.

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Dave  
Years ago

Don't think cavs could pay that much as they are over the hard cap and Delly doesn't have bird rights. I don't think the 4 mil price is too over the top in comparison to other contracts that have been signed this off season. Cory Joseph just got around 7 mil from Toronto.

When it comes to free agency and teams over the cap, it's all about bird rights....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mate are you talking about the guy who who won the Cavs two of their finals games? No Delly - cavs would have got swept.

Give him the money, it will be worth it in the jersey sales.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's such a dumb stat to keep bringing up. Apart from that game what did he score? How many games with no points did he have in the finals despite playing 36+ minutes?

He can shoot uncontested assisted 3s. That's it. He's an average point gaurd to boot.

Cory Joseph got that to be back up point gaurd and Toronto always has to overpay to get free agents interested. Same reason the money going to Sacramento players has to be taken with a grain of salt.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If you think Delly won the cavs two games because of his defence on Steph then you also have to say he lost them the last three when he started defending only slightly better than a trash can

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Knicks have Langston Galloway fresh of a 2nd all rookie team debut season as back up point gaurd. Debatable Delly is any better than him.

Rockets have prigioni as back up point gaurd, wouldn't be hard for Delly to take over his spot. Much better landing spot. Also would never shoot the ball which is a bonus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Delly is not worth $4mill per season, this must be a misprint, thats off the charts stupid! Goodish player in spurts but no where near worth that money.

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Greggo  
Years ago

$4m per is hardly anything the way everyone else around the league is going... Corey Joseph $7.5m per, Houston were gonna pay Sergio Llull from Spain $7m per... etc.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think unless be has another team willing to pay, i would just take the lower $ at multi year. Your still making good cash and your in the NBA. A 2 or 3 year deal at low cash is easy to move so you may find yourself on another team with better opportunities down the track anyway.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would bet Delly is willing to sign for less than $4m per, this would be his agent trying to get the best possible deal from the on-set knowing they will be negotiated down.

If the Cavs are offering Tristan Thompson a 5 year deal for $80m (which he's not willing to sign) I don't think it's too outrageous for Delly to be asking say 2 years/$8m or 3 years/$12m right off the bat.

3 years for $9-$10m might be a bit more realistic given the Cavs future luxury tax penalties.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anons 367 & 368, Steph Curry made some of the best defenders in the league look like "trash cans" all season long. That's why he was the MVfreakinP!!! NO ONE CAN STOP HIM. Delly did a bang up job in the first 3 games but couldn't sustain it in a 6 game series. Not many players in the league would have either.
I can't believe how negative people are on this site lately. I'm visiting less and less and every time I do I just get angry at all the morons posting negative crap. I'm at the point now where I don't think it adds any value to basketball any more.
Isaac and the admin team need to lift and start banning IP addresses or something. It's unbearable!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Catchya champ

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Delly is so good please explain why a) no other team has sent him an offer sheet, b) why the cavs refuse to pay him $4 million in a league that has just paid Cory Joseph $7 million a year and c) why the cavs needed to get mo williams in?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I don't see why you wouldn't give someone who can't defend at an NBA level for more than two games in a row $4 million

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"If Delly is so good please explain why a) no other team has sent him an offer sheet, b) why the cavs refuse to pay him $4 million in a league that has just paid Cory Joseph $7 million a year and c) why the cavs needed to get mo williams in?"

Did you read the article?

He's a restricted free agent and teams around the league don't want to wait the time and effort (ala Portland with Kanter) when they expect the Cavs to match the offer.

The Cavs have already spent close to $200 million this offseason on LeBron, Love and Shumpert alone with TT wanting around $85m with JR Smith and Delly still to come so obviously the Cavs are looking for savings where they can on someone like Delly. The Raptors had to overpay for Joseph because Toronto is not an attractive NBA destination and Lou Williams signed with the Lakers.

The Cavs got Mo Williams because he's an upgrade on Delly, familiar with LeBron and the Cavs and would mean Delly would be reduced to a third string PG role where he could probably give more bang for buck defensively in less minutes.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

But if he's some defense God like half the people on here think surely he's worth waiting for?? Cavs have no use for him now they have a decent back up and half their team can bring the ball up just to give it to Lebron anyway. They don't want to pay the luxury tax on whatever contract they give him, it's understandable, but if he was worth $4 million a year someone would have offered him it. Simple as that

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Isaac and the admin team need to lift and start banning IP addresses or something. "

What? Why? Because people disagree with you, or post something that doesn't fit in to your narrow-minded views?

Might be time to step away from the computer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I love Delly, but Patty's on 4 mill a season and he's a much better NBA player. Delly proved he can play well on the biggest stage, but he hasn't proven that he can play a role game in and game out. Until he does that, he's not worth more than 2-3. And Cory Joseph = Higher Ceiling. How much better can Delly be than he is right now?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The tall poppy syndrome this board has with Delly is hilarious.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"I don't like that people can look past the fact that Delly is Australian and see him for the average player he is, better call tall poppy syndrome"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dan Gilbert has so much tall poppy syndrome bringing in mo williams how dare he

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It was noted Patty Mills took a discount to re-sign with the Spurs as a lot of their players do.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"The tall poppy syndrome this board has with Delly is hilarious."

You don't understand what tall poppy syndrome is.

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maxymoo  
Years ago

Golden State should sign him and then send him to the NBL.

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Baller6  
Years ago

As someone that watched every cavs game for the last 3 seasons....just sign him for 3 mil a year, he is at least worth that as a hussle and 3nD guy. Never be a star but a team needs guys like delly, especially this cavs team...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Exactly and $3m a year would be a fair price.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

http://www.fearthesword.com/2015/3/2/8127061/the-problem-of-matthew-dellavedova-synergy-sports

"Cleveland's defense has been much, much better since January 15th... except when Dellavedova is on the floor. The Cavs are more than 5 points better per 100 possessions when he is sitting on the bench. In other words, when Delly is out there, the team reverts to pre-hot-streak-level defense."

"Cleveland's offense is nearly three points better per-100 possessions when he's off the floor entirely"

For a guy who makes his team worse on both ends of the floor, he sure is gonna get paid for a couple of decent playoff games

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Delly won those two games of the finals for the Cavs. No doubt about it. Not just on D but points and hustle.

Cavs ended up one of the best defensive teams with Delly. This was long before his epic finals appearance.

Give him at least $4 mil. The kid can ball.

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gwb  
Years ago

I am a delly fan, but I don't think he justifies 3-4 million a season. I think his qualifying deal was fair and reasonable for what he provides. 2 million a year would be a good offer. I think 4 million a year smells like crack pipe smoke.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Delly can ball but he also made the cavs 5 points worse on defense. Cavs might have been one of the best defensive teams but it was only when Delly was on the bench

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's just on defense. For half the season the cavs were 8 points per 100 possessions better off with him on the bench. I'm sure he's not that integral to them

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GWB  
Years ago

Delly is a solid, but not spectacular back up point guard/ role player. He could definitely be replaced by the Cavs, so I don't think it is wise to hold out too long on signing a deal with them.

I am sure other teams would be happy to have him somewhere on their bench, but I doubt it would be to the tune of 3 million a year. I think Delly should be happy with whatever deal that comes up that ensures he stays multiple years in the league. A 3 year, 6 million dollar deal would be more than fair.

He is a limited player with great hustle. He has a niche in the NBA, but I think he needs to remember that he is not the only guy in the world who can play their guts out. I would agree to the Cavs deal with little batering. If they aren't biting, take what you can get man! You're winning anyways.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I must say I am impressed with the anonymous's opinions that are meaningless

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This isn't tall poppy syndrome, Delly is a great high energy guy, just not $4mill great. I told a mate of mine this and he said the 2 finals run he had has gone to his head haha His agent would have a very clear agenda here, and no way this guy is worth this much a season. Having said that I reckon Ingles was underpaid at $1.5 mill or whatever it was, he is a hard guy to guard once he gets going. Dell give sue spot minutes and is one dimensional. He is good at that dimension, but still from a business point of view people just need to cam down!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ingles was only underpaid because he was on about $500K last season with the Jazz.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sure hope you're not saying that undeniable facts are meaningless opinions

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Anonymous  
Years ago

People are saying JJ Bareas $4m a year contract is overpaid so no way does Delly get that much

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This issue is that the Cavs are well over the salary cap, so what ever they pay Delly they have to pay a tax penalty, so a $3million deal suddenly becomes a $6 million cost.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The same trolls who rip Delly for not being able to defend Steph Curry are surely the guys who thought the semi-profession NBL has superior players to the "amateur" Kentucky Wildcats.

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Aussiebballer  
Years ago

If the Cavs weren't in the Luxury Tax they would have signed him by now, he fills a nice role for them and has a big fan following.
Which is funny because the fans on the Cavs forums were bagging the crap out of him early in the season for his poor shooting.

Looks like the owner has neared the limits of how much money he wants to throw around and is hesitating to sign Smith and Delly. I think their team cost is already over $150mil including the luxury tax and they need to sign Thompson to keep LBJ happy.

Can't blame him as both guys aren't essential to their team structure and can be replaced to some degree by vet minimum players.

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Anon12  
Years ago

Isaac, found the info below on an NBA website. Maybe some of the people that post here should take notice.

"We encourage you to add a comment to this discussion. You may not post any unlawful, threatening, defamatory, obscene, pornographic or other material that would violate the law. All comments should be relevant to the topic and remain respectful of other authors and others who submit comments. You are solely responsible for your own comments, the consequences of posting those comments, and the consequences of any reliance by you on the comments of others. By submitting your comment, you hereby give the operators of this site the right, but not the obligation, to post, air, edit, exhibit, telecast, cablecast, webcast, re-use, publish, reproduce, use, license, print, distribute or otherwise use your comment(s) and accompanying personal identifying and other information you provide via all forms of media now known or hereafter devised, worldwide, in perpetuity."

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Which on of those guidelines do you think has been breached here?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There are people who actually think Kentucky wouldn't go pretty close to undefeated in an NBL season? Thats almost a better joke than Delly wanting 4 million a year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If GWB, the biggest Delly defender through the playoffs to the point I trolled him excessively, can say he's worth $2 million a year, then all you people saying $4 million a year is fine are confirmed fools

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Anonymous  
Years ago

475, there was a pretty funny thread about it during the NCAA tournament. Lots of folks thought the average NBL team, made up of second tier WCC and other mid major players, would wipe the floor with Kentucky because it would be "boys" against "grown men". Hoops.au has some of the least knowledgeable posters of any forum I've ever been on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Four of their players went top 13 this year, and Australia's current "best Aussie player in the NBA at the moment" chipmunk looking golden child wasn't picked 60 times. There's delusional and then there is hoops.com.au delusional

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Its weighing up talented juniors against a professional team filled with experienced players. I don't think its a given that either team would win but I'd pick the NBL team for sure (providing it was one of the top teams).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If you think pure talent is going to beat a structured team, check out the 1976 ABA All Star game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Another great argument. Kentucky is coached by one of the greatest basketball minds in the world. I would reckon their assistants are more knowledgeable and get paid more than the top NBL coaches. Have you seen Kentucky's training facilities? The weight and nutrition program shred anything the NBL provides. These are 19 year old physical freaks, not "talented juniors." They also happen to be th best basketball players in their age group in the best basketball country on the planet. Kentuckys program is far more "professional" than any NBL team, and the it would not be a close competition on the floor.

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paul  
Years ago

Haha! You obviously didn't see how one of the greatest basketball minds in the world went when he coached internationally!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow, not only does #492 reckon lots of things, he also has in-depth knowledge of all NBL programs too, right down to their nutrition. Compelling argument!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So many trolls. That's the only excuse I can think of for someone to actually think a bunch of scrubs who are only good enough to play in the barely professional NBL would be able to score in the paint against Karl Anthony towns or get past Devon booker.

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Bear  
Years ago

Was Delly worth more to the Cav's than Miller?

Miller was on several million last season but couldn't get court time in the finals, maybe there is a trade off there which could work in Delly's favour...

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paul  
Years ago

This guy went oh so quiet after Wisconsin handed the almighty Kentucky their hats. Seems he's resurfaced again, perhaps he can tell us why Wisconsin's lay-up line was better than Kentucky's.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"So many trolls. That's the only excuse I can think of for someone to actually think a bunch of scrubs who are only good enough to play in the barely professional NBL would be able to score in the paint against Karl Anthony towns or get past Devon booker."

You nee to get out more, kid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If by several you mean 2.5, then yes Delly can have that. Also couldn't get court time because his back is ruined wasn't it? $4 million is the biggest joke I've heard since someone thought an NBL team would even challenge any top college team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cant remember the last time the best ever college player said the system was in so much trouble it needed to be shit down for a year or the last time a college bought all the other colleges so they could run the season

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paul  
Years ago

That would definitely impact the lay-up lines if they did.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I reckon Wisconsin would handle most NBL teams too.

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anonymous  
Years ago

Boys, stop this thread now and move on... Wait and see what evolves then spill your guts..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All NBL team 2015: Cedric Jackson, Scottie Wilbekin, Josh Childress, Brock Motum, Brian Conklin

Kentucky 2015: Karl Anthony Towns (drafted 1) Willey CauleyStein (6) trey lyles (12) Devon booker (13) andrew Harrison (44)

Who are you really gonna think would win?

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paul  
Years ago

Do we really need to go back to what Scottie Wilbekin did against Kentucky? Because it made you look pretty foolish last time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Paul the only person who looked foolish was yourself. Continue living in your fantasy world where the NBL is on par with the Kentuckys of the world based on two college games of an NBL import. There is a reason Kentucky Basketball is worth more than the entire NBL league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't know what you mean about last time, I assume I'm not the same person you were talking to.

23 points is decent, I didn't realise that. Wonder why he didn't get drafted and has to play in the NBL? His college stats weren't that bad

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"All NBL team 2015: Cedric Jackson, Scottie Wilbekin, Josh Childress, Brock Motum, Brian Conklin

Kentucky 2015: Karl Anthony Towns (drafted 1) Willey CauleyStein (6) trey lyles (12) Devon booker (13) andrew Harrison (44)

Who are you really gonna think would win?"

Not sure what is worse? You missing the point, or continually shifting the goalposts to try and make a point yourself.

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paul  
Years ago

It's pretty hard to make a credible case against the top of the NBL being comparable to the top of NCAA hoops when last season two players stepped out of the top levels of college basketball and performed at a very similar level in the NBL.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The all NBL team are the best players in the NBL. Then I compared them to five Kentucky players that were drafted To show people that think the NBL would get close to Kentucky that they are fucking mental

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yes but both of those players have to play in the NBL instead of the NBA where basically half of kentuckys team now is

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's pretty hard to make a credible case against the top of the NBA being comparable to the top of NCAA hoops when last season MANY players stepped out of the top levels of college basketball and performed at a very similar level in the NBA.

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paul  
Years ago

And indeed their NBA teams would beat NBL teams, but the fact Wilbekin led Florida to three wins over Kentucky, including two blowouts from memory, suggests their college team wasn't nearly as good.

An interesting article here asking US pros in Europe how they think UK would have gone against the non-elite Euroleague teams which is about the NZ Breakers' level.

Some thought they'd be competitive and could win, some thought the older pros would be too much for them, but none thought they'd blow them off the court.

http://hoopshype.com/2015/04/03/would-kentucky-beat-an-average-euroleague-team/

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paul  
Years ago

OK, list the many players who were amongst the elite players in college in 2014 who were amongst the elite in the NBA last season, performing at a similar level to LeBron James and Steph Curry.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So most agree they'd compete with the best and beat average teams. So is our debate now whether euroleague is as good as the NBL?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What? Your own argument was that two players came here and performed at a similar level to their college stats. It's not like Scottie blew the league apart. He averaged 15 points. Two more than college.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"The all NBL team are the best players in the NBL. Then I compared them to five Kentucky players that were drafted To show people that think the NBL would get close to Kentucky that they are fucking mental"

But it started off being an NBL TEAM, not the all star five. The best NBL team would beat the NBL all star five so that is what I'm basing my comparison on.

Stop shifting the goalposts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

'You don't understand what tall poppy syndrome is'

Uh, pretty sure I do?

Every thread on Delly these days is 80% guys bagging on him. No one is saying he's a superstar or a top player. He's a guy with limited abilities who hustled his way to an NBA spot yet guys still feel the need to have cracks at him. I'd understand if he was arrogant and boastful but he seems like a humble, level headed guy. Just a true aussie battler.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Okay I thought you'd want to benefit of the five best verse five Kentucky players.

7 of 13 Kentucky players are in the NBA this year. Pick any team you want they'd still lose.

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paul  
Years ago

"So most agree they'd compete with the best and beat average teams. So is our debate now whether euroleague is as good as the NBL?"

No, the most popular answer was they'd lose against grown men. The next was they'd compete with lower level Euroleague but not the top teams. From memory only one thought they'd definitely beat lower level Euroleague teams, which is what the NZ Breakers would be.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tall poppy syndrome would be bagging him out of jealousy.
Bagging him because hes actually just an average NBA player is just stating facts isn't it?

Pretty sure if i said "Lebrons a dickhead for now he left Cleveland" you'd scream tall poppy syndrome as loud as you could

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Anonymous  
Years ago

6 of 10 said they'd beat average teams, and yes all said the elite euroleague teams would win but many said the college team would compete.

The talent in the euroleague would be much higher than the NBL. Still think college would beat an NBL team comfortably.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Back in the day with Gaze, Heal and the like they'd give Kentucky a very good run for their money. These days the NBL just doesn't have those elite players that could match up on the likes of KAT or WCS. Motum is about to fail getting into the NBA for the second season in the row and they're top 6 picks. Feed the post each possession and they win. Damian Martin is the NBLs best defender, could he stay in front of a young, super athletic gaurd for a whole game?

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Cram  
Years ago

Going back to the original topic. A couple of important things to remember

1) I don't believe Delly is worth $4m (as compared to this years cap) but its a decent STARTING point for negotiations.

2) Everybody is getting overpaid this summer. Everybody (except for Superstars signing anything more than 2 year deals who are all going to be the biggest bargains in a couple of years). Kyle Singler got $25m/5 year deal from OKC. There's no way he's worth that NOW, but based on the cap 2 years from now it'll be a great deal.

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Chi  
Years ago

Agree Cram. Think it's a shame considering how big a hand he had in the their finals campaign that he's (potentially) suffering because of how much their throwing at everybody else. I think it would be good to see him get top dollar (for him, ie maybe a touch more than the min they offered) in reward for that but I get that he won't have the same role moving forward/in his next contract. I hope his agent gets a deal done to keep him at Cavs.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

7 players last season took more than half their shots from 3 point range. All 7 players made more than 40% of those shots. And all 7 players exclusively do the catch-and-shoot (90%+ of their 3s were assisted).

Those players? Korver, Reddick, Babbit, Patterson, Green, and... Singler and Delly.

Makes him worth $5 million a season alone

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm sure he'd trade a million or two a year off his contract for the few rings he'll get sitting on the bench

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snooch  
Years ago

I love school holidays

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Dave  
Years ago

In fairness, Delly's 40% from 3 resulted in an average of 1 made 3 per game. He's doesn't need to take contested shots unlike the Korvers, greens and reddicks of the league. in the finals when he played decent minutes and needed to take shots he shot around the 23% mark. He is certainly not a knock down shooter...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

theres no denying delly is a top tier player anymore. $4 mil is fair.

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Dave  
Years ago

Top Tier players get 20 mil per season. Delly has proved he belongs in the league. Far from top tier.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Reggie Jackson $16mil
Kyle Singler $5mil
Baynes $6.5mil
T Young $12mil
Teletovic $5mil
Joel Anthony $5mil
Cory joseph 7.5mil

and I could add 100 more.

The you have Delly. One of the highest Jersey sellers. The guy who got the Cavs there 2 wins in the NBA finals. Played solid D on Rose, Teague and Curry in the playoffs. The best hustle in the game and a team first player. Delly is legit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This is why he wont get $4million from the Cavs.

"CLE luxury taxes (not factoring in BH) right around $41.With Matt D. it would jump to $55m.
That would be $14m/taxes and $4m salary = $18m"

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Highest Jersey sellers because everyone jumped on the bandwagon. i wonder if he sold 10 during the regular season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

And how many of those players got paid that money to be third stringers? Joel Anthony would be the only one.

Played so much solid D on Steph he only averaged something like 27 for the finals

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Anonymous  
Years ago

- No ones offered you more
- cavs don't want to pay you
- you aren't vital to the team

You can either:

Accept the qualifying offer, play for a year on the minimum and show you can play decent for an entire season, not just sporadic games through the playoffs then come play in the NBL when you can't and no one wants you

Or, sign for 3 years 6 million and enjoy your ring or two at the end of the bench

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"One of the highest Jersey sellers."

Oh dear.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

To the anon throwing around +/- stats above, are those adjusted? Or do they merely reflect the fact that Delly was far more likely to play with bench units who were generally 8 points per possession worse than the starters?

I'm not making a case for Delly at 4 mill but curious whether your argument is good, or just conveniently misleading.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fair question. Got those stats from here. I believe it's his effect no matter the group he's with but I could be wrong.

http://www.fearthesword.com/2015/3/2/8127061/the-problem-of-matthew-dellavedova-synergy-sports

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thanks

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Thanks for the support guys.

I can't really comment much on the contract at the moment but the amount is derived from a lot of factors outside of my control.

Looking forward to a big season ahead!

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paul  
Years ago

I think a few posters earlier made a good point, $4 million is high but you've got to start high.

He's shown he can lead a defensive effort against a quality opponent, play unselfishly and hit the three. He's also shown he's not ready to be a full-time starter.

Anywhere in the $2-3 million range seems about right, and that's probably what he'll end up with.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

But Paul, please explain to the uninformed why Nathan Sobey would smash Devin Booker. Forget the fact that Booker is taller, bigger, stronger and faster, not to mention exponentially more skilled, Sobey is 25 and plays in a "professional" league. The 19 year old "amateur" Booker would be hopelessly outclassed. Boys against men! No wonder Calapari doesn't take his team on a preseason tour of Oz. It would be a massacre!

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paul  
Years ago

I think if you're desperate enough to try and pass Sobey off as a top level NBL guard you're struggling for material. Why didnt you use the comparison of Scottie Wilbekin instead? I don't think he or Cedric Jackson would be shaking in their boots going against Booker.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ah, how can I forget Scottie. A hybrid between the second coming and a Lebron / MJ love child in your eyes. They might not be shaking in their boots, but they would be seriously outclassed. There is a reason one was a lottery pick and two are in the NBL. Being a few years older doesn't matter much when you are giving up loads of talent and athleticism.

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Putting talent aside, who plays a better team game at both ends of the court? Kentucky, or the best NBL team?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's $4 million U.S. as well. $5.5 million Australian. Crazy

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You know whats funny, I actually think that was Delly who commented!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Delly? Is that you?
Do you even like peanut butter and jelly?

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Lebron James  
Years ago

My man Delly doesn't deserve $4 million. Now way. Instead, he deserves $10 million.

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Bron Bron  
Years ago

Bron Bron are you gonna take a cut to fill out his quota?

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Lebron James  
Years ago

LOL! Is that a joke? I'm the best player in the world.

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Baller6  
Years ago

Haha that's not Lebron....it's clearly Kobe posting using Lebrons handle!

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