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Yep
Two years ago

#37886

2016 WA SBL

Thought it would be good to have a new thread going for 2016 SBL. Early I know, but hey.....

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Greeny
Two years ago
09:11 5 Sep 15

Reply #548166

re: 2016 WA SBL

Some clubs need new coaches for 2016
Lakeside men
Joondalup women
Stirling women
Suns women
Any others? And has anyone heard who might get the jobs


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:52 5 Sep 15

Reply #548214

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers men and women


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Zap
Two years ago
12:06 6 Sep 15

Reply #548278

re: 2016 WA SBL

Some clubs need a complete rebuild including a new administration and new direction from the ground up if they ever want respect. Including:
* Willetton.
* OK actually it's just Willetton.


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Anon
Two years ago
12:23 6 Sep 15

Reply #548285

re: 2016 WA SBL

Perth surely need a new Mens Coach, they spent almost as much as the Wildcats.

More than just Willo need a change, perhaps starting at the top.


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mc
Two years ago
19:40 6 Sep 15

Reply #548367

re: 2016 WA SBL

can't wait to see my good good friend dennis t at willo with kyle he will look good in blue


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rinse
Two years ago
02:00 7 Sep 15

Reply #548397

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is that the biggest troll ever or what?^ Willetton need a complete rebuild from the ground up INCLUDING ADMINISTRATION??

Do you even know who their admins are?
What these admins do?
How much influence they have on SBL?

Pretty poor observation saying the best WABL association, largest association and best developmental association for the last 10 seasons needs a complete overhaul from the bottom up.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:28 7 Sep 15

Reply #548427

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think the point may have been when you spend a truckload of coin on buying two championships and fail miserably, someone needs to be held accountable


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:13 7 Sep 15

Reply #548439

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not sure how they are the best development association when they have to recruit so heavily just to exit in the first round.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:14 7 Sep 15

Reply #548440

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who won all the awards at the dinner over the weekend? Facebook shows the all star teams thats it. MVP's? Pretty poor..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:10 7 Sep 15

Reply #548458

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ray Turner and Sami Whitcomb were the MVP's. Rhys Vague was MIP. Matt Parsons and Randy Miegel were COY. They seemed to post everything on Twitter while Facebook got a quarter of it


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Reply #548461

re: 2016 WA SBL

Perth have re-signed Lackovic. Have heard the exodus from the red and blacks mens list will be very significant because of the re-appointment! Ash not in the running at Lakeside - maybe someone like a Tom Knowles could fill that position given his coaching experience and background with the club, but he has done a heap of work with that Women's program so wouldn't be surprised to see him stay in that role. Slammers need to recruit outside of Bunbury coaching wise if they want to keep the momentum Harrelson created.

I completely agree with Rinse - Why hate Willetton aside from its easy to do because they are so successful at wabl / sbl. It appears to me trolls on here are jealous of the Tigers success / club culture, when compared to their own personal club. Parker has done amazing in the past 18 months up there with the Women's program and yes we all know Blacky spent $$ on this years squad, but because they don't win the Championship, ppl have this sense of entitlement to just jump on here and abuse the club.

Unless those same trolls are willing to actually be pro-active rather than reactive and get on a board themselves, volunteer countless hours each week to ensure the club runs smoothly and not expect any thanks for it - I don't see how those same trolls who hide behind fake ID's can then jump on a forum and criticise the people who are actively contributing to WA Basketball by doing their best to ensure their respective clubs keep running on a day-to-day basis.

Instead of pointless, immature comments which made a significant % of the last 200 posts on the previous SBL thread, how's about you show a little bit of guts - post a name some ppl can recognise you by and actually come up with ideas which can help the SBL / Basketball in WA! My ideas for 2016:

* Week 1 Grand Final Replays - Create some genuine interest in the League from the outset, with the Champions hosting the respective Runners Up (Tigers @ Rocko / Slammers @ Joondalup)

* ANZAC Long Weekend - Use this significant weekend (ANZAC Day falls on a Monday next year) to engage the local Defence Force community with SBL Clubs in a Derby matchup on the Monday. Have Mandurah play @ Rocko and invite local RSLs & HMAS Stirling Officers to the game / Have Stirling play @ Joondalup & have local RSLs from up that way as well as staff from RAAF Pearce attend the game (B Lawrie would be the obvious contact there) Make it more than just about the Basketball to celebrate our history. Maybe the league could take a leaf out of the NCAA and create some custom Camo uniforms for the two sets of Games then auction them off and donate the proceedings to the local RSL?

* Bring back SBL Slam Radio. Cech and Craig as well as Sonshine FM did a great job this year - and if your club didn't feel as though they got enough exposure through the program then email the guys each week with updates on what's happening at your club! The boys can't advertise for each club if you're not giving them any info!!

* Get rid of the ridiculous qualifying tournament for 14s Touring Teams at the start of the year!
A) Its not a fully timed carnival so it loses most credibility straight away. Why have a qualifying tournament for a National Championships if its not going to be played under those conditions. Either have some kind of knockout Tournament over 2 weeks with nominated teams playing two fully timed games per day (Sat & Sunday) until you are left with the relevant number of teams - or look at other alternatives such as WABL Finals (As it used to be) or other options.
B) If your argument is teams can stack their teams with the way the Grading system is going to come in for WABL 14s in 2016 then cool, have it as the two Grand Finalists from State Champs U13s Championship Division qualify as the two automatic touring teams then have a playoff for 3 v 4 if only three teams go away. That way you're giving some purpose to State Champs again for the younger age groups, AND you're giving those teams who do qualify an extra three months to fundraise - especially if they have to travel to Far North Queensland or Tassie!

I am sure there is more I could write down but how's about we actually be creative and help Bowls and the BWA staff out with some proactive ideas which we can move forward with - rather than just trolling on here on how much you despise Player As Mole or how you think an entire club needs an overhaul because YOU weren't good enough to make their team at WABL tryouts ten years ago and still have that hate towards them... #justsayin!


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interested observer
Two years ago
12:15 7 Sep 15

Reply #548473

re: 2016 WA SBL

Part 1 - A report card and opinion on what is needed for 2016...

Going by final positions...

Wolves
Grade = A
2015 - There are a lot of aspects to make a successful coach but Ettridge definitely excels in his recruiting and management of the squad. To assemble the team and then keep them all happy shows he is strong in this area.
A team that wins the championship automatically gets an A, but with this roster anything less would have been a failure.
I don't think we really ever saw this team reach full potential and a lot would have to do with Timms coming off injury, Damo working off the rust, Questel adjusting to new environment.
If this roster is retained it will dominate the league in 2016.
2016 - Simply keep the roster together and a back-to-back championship would be guaranteed.

Slammers
Grade = A-
2015 = A very interesting season with a roller coaster ride. Started the season on fire and then went through a number of losing streaks. If they kept the American players healthy then they were always going deep into playoffs.
Ty is also great at recruiting and keeping the team together. His recruits didn't come with great credentials but really fit well into the system.
Having Ty in and out of the team during playoffs was interesting but worked out in the end. I think Slammers got the raw end of this deal, support him for sure but missing playoff games to travel to the US is not acceptable based on the time and $ put into the team in last couple of years...
2016 - I expect a quick slide down the ladder as losing Ty as player and coach will really hurt them. Can Weeden recover from knee injury, and if he does they will go to having 3 americans and not able to compete with top teams.

Flames
Grade = B
2015 - Very solid effort from Flames and great to see them continue to develop local talent and give them opportunities.
Cooper one of best imports in league, and although Taylor is a solid player and a great guy, I think they needed more of a scoring wing to really compete with top teams.
Godfrey was great at times but average at others, they need to him to continually be scoring 20+.
Remmers was servicable this season but needs a big pre-season to really get back to his best.
2016 = Probably will replace both Land brothers, and lose some of the vets on team. Need to get a couple of great imports to bridge the transition of their younger brigade. With Simpson, Godfrey, Roberts, and a couple of the younger guys coming through the future looks bright...

Buccs
Grade = B-
2015 = If they can ever get the 2nd import spot (or 3rd import spot...) right then they will be in GF with Wolves... Not sure on the count but it must be 4 or 5 players through that 2nd spot over last couple of season.
Wunders is just getting better and better as he gets older. And team has played together so long that they handle most situations.
2016 = window is rapidly closing on championship for this roster. If Lewis plays in UK then he must be classified as import on return and Buccs won't win it with just Lewis and Cook.
Ralph and Wunders must be seriously thinking of life after bball.
They need Thomas to get back to his best and be the starting PG as Wrensted is just not up to being a starting PG at SBL level.
Can't see any youth coming through so 2016 might be their last roll of the dice...

Giants
Grade = A
2015 = Had probably the best second half of the season from any team and really came together when it counted, which is very impressive considering the start of the year.
Two good imports and Mua were obviously the main contributors and carried the team for large parts. Solid season from Hurst and a couple of the other Aussie guys.
Not sure if Franich makes a comeback from ACL injury but this could put them in top 2...
Haney had a great first season and it begs the question of why he didn't get the opportunity to coach a couple of seasons ago? Maybe he didn't put his hand up?
2016 = Giants need some stability in the roster and then just make minor tweaks. Keep the big 3, add Franich back in and possibly pick up one more Aussie that would be top 8 in roster. Maybe chase Nebo Franich to play with brother...

Cougars
Grade = A
2015 = Written off as wooden spooners by most at the start of the year, before we all knew they were getting imports. And going with a new coach that was largely unproven.
What a year they had and really showed that if you can come together as a team that you can compete with anyone...
Coach Parsons proved that he can definitely coach a squad that lacked some of the talent and depth of other teams.
2016 = Must keep Field, hopefully get another season out of Davey and Sheldon, potentially upgrade one of imports and try and add some big man depth (easier said than done)

Tigers
Grade = C
2015 = a lot of talk in pre-season of a dominant team and they started the year well. But the sacrifice of average imports to get Kyle and Scott on the same roster probably cost them of being a contender.
Ended the season terribly and got lucky that teams like Magic, Redbacks, Lakeside were even worse at the latter parts of season.
From the outside it appeared there may have been some issues in how they gelled on the court. Both Armour and Scott need a lot of the ball to be effective and both dropped significantly from previous years.
Noordhoek, Burston, and Casey had limited opportunity to develop which might be an issue next season.
If Easley becomes unrestricted next season then they upgrade on imports then they will be top 4.
2016 = need to look at the oncourt cohesion of this team, a lot of skilled players but not really complimenting each other. Not sure they will be able to keep the roster together, but if they can have Easley as unrestricted and add some quality imports then this looks like a top four roster and then it is just getting them playing together...

Hawks
Grade = C-
2015 = Made a massive mistake in recruiting the 7 footer and then taking too long to get rid of him. If a solid import was there from the start then this team would have been in playoff contention a lot earlier than the last couple of games.
A bit of bad luck with injuries didn't help there cause. If Dixon and Cassir were available earlier then it would have really helped.
2016 = Need to get their import spots right early this time around... Get a good 3man and 5man (nothing over 6'9") and they will be top 6.

The rest later...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:16 8 Sep 15

Reply #548651

re: 2016 WA SBL

Both coaching positions up at Lakeside with Darren Nash stepping down yesterday, and Olley last week.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:16 8 Sep 15

Reply #548659

re: 2016 WA SBL

Joe Tupaea taking on the role at East Perth full time for 2016.


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Anoneemuss
Two years ago
10:28 10 Sep 15

Reply #548968

re: 2016 WA SBL

*Mike Ellis the new Mens Head Coach for Stirling
*Jason Kyle remains Mens coach at Mandurah
*Further to random's post - AJ, Taiwhiti & BOTH americans not back there next year if Perth report is true
*Rhys Vague on the market with no nbl ties at Eagles anymore


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:44 11 Sep 15

Reply #549288

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jason Kyle is safe for another year, but be prepared for a mass exodus from Mandurah as well. Ben Smith, Dellas, Gerovich likely on the move. Hafford told he is not required for next year (interesting note that Mandurah's female import Davis has also been told she wont be required next year). Both were shipped out of the country pretty fast and under strained relationships with the club.

Looking forward to another year of the walking ego on the sidelines at the Uni.


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Flipside
Two years ago
18:29 11 Sep 15

Reply #549322

re: 2016 WA SBL

With all the "supposed movers" when can clubs start talking to players from other clubs? Or is this like the salary cap and referee evaluations, more of a concept than an actual "thing"?


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
13:51 13 Sep 15

Reply #549531

re: 2016 WA SBL

MVP Ray Turner performing the haka with the Wellington Saints Invitational team at the 2015 William Jones Cup: http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/71919767/american-basketballers-honoured-to-perform-haka-on-wellington-saints-tour


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Anon
Two years ago
14:35 13 Sep 15

Reply #549536

re: 2016 WA SBL

Players can be contacted 2 weeks after the Grand Final but that has been broken many, many times in the past.

Contracts can be signed from now.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:49 23 Oct 15

Reply #557416

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is this our new thread?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:22 23 Oct 15

Reply #557421

re: 2016 WA SBL

it must be

was everyone just as shocked as me that Lako actually got on the previous thread and posted all his achievements?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:31 23 Oct 15

Reply #557422

re: 2016 WA SBL

^ who gives a crap

What teams still have to announce coaches? Lakeside announced theirs yesterday


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:56 23 Oct 15

Reply #557431

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lako obviously gives a crap


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:57 23 Oct 15

Reply #557433

re: 2016 WA SBL

Only Gero left in the men's


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:10 23 Oct 15

Reply #557435

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any news on "little" Ben Smith and Corey Easley to the Slammers??


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Anon
Two years ago
18:20 23 Oct 15

Reply #557440

re: 2016 WA SBL

Good luck with Voelkel and Louis Thomas as your "zone busters"!!
Prediction - Curtains at Curtin.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:43 23 Oct 15

Reply #557442

re: 2016 WA SBL

Voelkel to the Redbacks?


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Anon
Two years ago
22:14 23 Oct 15

Reply #557573

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lako does realise this is a basketball forum and not Linkdin?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:18 23 Oct 15

Reply #557617

re: 2016 WA SBL

So he comes on the forum to defend being labelled as being into himself.... by posting a message which confirmed how into himself he is. Hahaha you couldn't make this stuff up!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:13 24 Oct 15

Reply #557729

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lol at Lako, the guy wears a suit at games seriously, to the poster who said Ben Smith has been approached by the Slammers, please expand


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AnkleBreaker
Two years ago
10:31 24 Oct 15

Reply #557737

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lacko is desperate to be regarded as a good coach, and believes he can progress to the NBL level.

Had the players, got the suit....check! Now how to coach!


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Anonaback
Two years ago
13:56 24 Oct 15

Reply #557779

re: 2016 WA SBL

As I read Lacko's spiel, all I could hear in my head was "Prestige Worldwide"..."Boats and Hoes!"


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:03 24 Oct 15

Reply #557905

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers 2016 - Best scenario (unlikely if not impossible)
Also, if the rumours are true

PG. Nichols, Phillips, Sears

SG. B.Smith, Hitchcock, J.Weir

SF. Import, R.Smith

PF. Worthington, Easley, J.Smith

C. Weeden, Hickert, Keller

13 strong with England x2, Bell, King, Germs and Kamocha waiting in the wings

Can they bring in 3 Smiths for next season. Strong front court able to cover Clive if in doubt for a lot of the season. Bring in Ben Smith (apparently been "approached") and if the new import offers what Brian did or anything close, they are probably a better team (granted this highly unlikely).

Rumours are that Corey Easley is set to become naturalised so this is based on that happening.

In. Import, B.Smith, C.Easley, R.Smith, J.Smith, J.Weir (did not play a game last season)

Out. T.Harrelson, B.Voelkel, B.Canzirri, J.England, C.Bell

Thoughts???


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Carl Steb
Two years ago
23:46 24 Oct 15

Reply #557915

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nicky
You said you won sbl championships?
I know you won one as a player at redbacks where are the others?


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Anonaback
Two years ago
00:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #557925

re: 2016 WA SBL

Redbacks preseason meeting...

http://youtu.be/ciS914MaDl8


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Natural is better
Two years ago
17:53 25 Oct 15

Reply #558224

re: 2016 WA SBL

A general SBL question - what is a ballpark figure or a range that a SBL import would be paid? Do they get part-time jobs at the club too to make ends meet?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558258

re: 2016 WA SBL

500 dollars a week plus accommodation


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:05 25 Oct 15

Reply #558261

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any team other than Cockburn announced any player movement yet?


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Really
Two years ago
21:38 25 Oct 15

Reply #558277

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who have Cougars announced?


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Greeny
Two years ago
21:51 25 Oct 15

Reply #558280

re: 2016 WA SBL

Imports min. $500 plus car, accommodation and health cover.


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Maxymoo
Two years ago
22:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #558286

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haters going to hate.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558303

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hmm, the Hawks big fella did better in almost every statistic than the Hawks little fella who is now a DP.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558309

re: 2016 WA SBL

Has Ben Smith been approached by the Slammers?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:24 26 Oct 15

Reply #558314

re: 2016 WA SBL

There has been much talk about players leaving redbacks but has there been any word on anyone being recruited in? There are always those looking for more opportunity and with reported mass exodus down there surely there would be some guys interested in going even just for opportunity. Much like chan and Holmes in moving to Suns last season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:23 26 Oct 15

Reply #558316

re: 2016 WA SBL

Someone has to talk to Ben Smith and ask this question ^^


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:25 26 Oct 15

Reply #558364

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who have Cockburn announced as player movements, only seen Doccy not coming back as coach next year as their only announcement


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bowtie
Two years ago
10:40 26 Oct 15

Reply #558367

re: 2016 WA SBL

Surprised that it's still $500 per week for the imports on a Sports Visa. The extras in accom and car and health cover have always been there. The quality. for those things, varies considerably. The money issue was at $500 back in the 90's. Never heard of an import who doesn't have to run junior clinics or be available for the junior clubs affiliated with their SBL club. Even do paperwork in the office? Do they have to stay around for awards' nights etc? Didn't used to be included in the contract. SBL clubs used to have their wind ups immediately they were out of the comp so the imports would be present. SEABL have much stricter contracts but the imports do a lot better.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:45 26 Oct 15

Reply #558383

re: 2016 WA SBL

Would be very surprised if either Smith or Easley head to the Slammers. More likely to see Easley stay with Willo and Smith to remain with a metro team.

Someone on the other thread said the name of the new cougars import. They should continue to improve with a good young team provided they keep giving minutes to Pesava.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:21 26 Oct 15

Reply #558402

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers will have no one next year, starting line up will be Nichols, Hitchcock, Weir, Worthington and Hickert with no bench depth


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In the web...
Two years ago
14:56 26 Oct 15

Reply #558429

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ben Smith not happy at Redbacks. Made to be the scapegoat in many games. Lacko continually brought up "bad Suns habits" when things inevitably would go wrong in games.
Sooner he gets a new team, the sooner he gets back to being one of the best shooters in the league not held back by u:16 style offenses. Hope he lands at a contender. Could tip them the right way come playoffs....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:42 26 Oct 15

Reply #558440

re: 2016 WA SBL

Entire league to Wolves?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:42 26 Oct 15

Reply #558441

re: 2016 WA SBL

Entire league to Wolves?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:00 26 Oct 15

Reply #558446

re: 2016 WA SBL

"Entire league to Wolves?"

haahaha


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:01 26 Oct 15

Reply #558447

re: 2016 WA SBL

With rent being expensive compared to the 90s $500 isn't that bad. Effectively getting more since rents are way more now vs. back then.


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Web of lies
Two years ago
16:47 26 Oct 15

Reply #558466

re: 2016 WA SBL

How can a person be a scapegoat when they are a defensive sieve? 37% FG is top notch right? Did the "system" make him give up all those layups? It must've been the system that made him shoot contested 3's instead of pass or be patient.

C'mon friend of Ben, he was not very good last season. Some was his fault, some was on The Greatest SBL Coach EVERRRRRRRRR.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:25 26 Oct 15

Reply #558473

re: 2016 WA SBL

hahaha in the web
this is not the first player from suns to be pegged with 'bad suns habits' while coached by Lako
Justin Brown apparently had developed many bad habits at 33 years of age after playing a few years up there.


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the realest
Two years ago
17:27 26 Oct 15

Reply #558475

re: 2016 WA SBL

500 dollars sucks if that's your only income and its 500 AUD which would have been better 2 years ago keep that in mind that's like living off Centrelink congrats you made it haha


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:33 26 Oct 15

Reply #558480

re: 2016 WA SBL

It's a working six month holiday for a young 20 something more than a stable career.

"bad Suns habits" f'in LOL!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:38 26 Oct 15

Reply #558483

re: 2016 WA SBL

people complaining about earning $500 a week with free car and accommodation need to just get a dose of reality.
there are guys who have dominated in the sbl now playing in Europe earning less than this in much better leagues. they train every day and in cases twice a day, plus do camps and clinics, cant speak the languague and play a 56+ game season.

Coming to Perth, one of the most beautiful cities in Australia, training (if you can call it that) twice a week, going to the beach, having bucket loads of free time, free accom, car, health insurance, gym and a 26 game season cannot be that bad.


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the realest
Two years ago
17:44 26 Oct 15

Reply #558484

re: 2016 WA SBL

this is false ^^^^^


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:47 26 Oct 15

Reply #558487

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah Euro teams pay less than that... haha good one. But the pros of SBL you mention I agree with. Cruisey.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:54 26 Oct 15

Reply #558490

re: 2016 WA SBL

you would be suprised.
I have two close friends playing in good leagues over there earning less than $500 AUD a week. Talking to other players who have also played in these leagues they also confirm this is common.

there is a false generalisation that the euro leagues and even NBA D league all pay well. a lot of NBA D League players earn less than what is paid here also

if you factor in things like the language barrier, cultural differences, weather etc the SBL is actually a very attractive and comfortable place to play.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:58 26 Oct 15

Reply #558493

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah but when ppl think Euro it is the top division.

If your friends are ballers who won't let go of their pro hoop dreams and playing in Div 2 in some obscure Euro country of course you will get paid that. But I get your comparison because it's kind of like Americans who aren't the best playing SBL vs. Aussies going over to Euro playing a similar standard so I get your point now.


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the realest
Two years ago
18:04 26 Oct 15

Reply #558496

re: 2016 WA SBL

Good country doesn't equal good league. Playing in France and Spain is great until your in the 5th league. But whatever I am not here to argue. I am here to giggle.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:13 26 Oct 15

Reply #558502

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah ok but you got to expect ppl when they hear Europe they don't think as far down as a div5 they are thinking of a top division where money flows.

and yeah I'm here for the lulz anymore quality Lako quotes? hahahahha


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Web of lies
Two years ago
18:20 26 Oct 15

Reply #558503

re: 2016 WA SBL

I'll assume the "good" League is the BBL.
It's not a top tier League over there. Its disingenuous to say Imports get less there as I bet at least one of your mates is playing as a local.

Look at dudes like Stan Okoye or Lee Roberts, they are on more than any figure stated here.


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the realest
Two years ago
18:24 26 Oct 15

Reply #558506

re: 2016 WA SBL

BBL is not a good league but you would be looking at 3 a month I assume top level Germany big bucks 2nd league Germany and 3rd league similar to the BBL. The real money is in the middle east and asian countries where you can make nice coin while not being a great talent.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:24 26 Oct 15

Reply #558507

re: 2016 WA SBL

Do SBL coaches get paid?


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Will the real Lacko
Two years ago
18:24 26 Oct 15

Reply #558508

re: 2016 WA SBL

please stand up......and tell us how to beat a 2-3 zone.

Or how to pay so many players for so few wins.

Or how many ties it takes to win a game?


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the realest
Two years ago
18:25 26 Oct 15

Reply #558509

re: 2016 WA SBL

Anyways back to the rumours whats going on out there alot of chatter but no insider knowledge out there?


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the realest
Two years ago
18:25 26 Oct 15

Reply #558510

re: 2016 WA SBL

Coaches yes but not that much at all


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:26 26 Oct 15

Reply #558511

re: 2016 WA SBL

You beat a 2-3 zone by getting out of bad Suns habits, duh!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:43 26 Oct 15

Reply #558519

re: 2016 WA SBL

i guess those bad suns habits were in full swing when the redbacks were one of 2 teams to lose to the suns in 2015


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C'mon now
Two years ago
18:47 26 Oct 15

Reply #558520

re: 2016 WA SBL

Everyone knows if Lacko loses its the refs fault.


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jojo
Two years ago
23:53 26 Oct 15

Reply #558594

re: 2016 WA SBL

K


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:17 27 Oct 15

Reply #558595

re: 2016 WA SBL


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:17 27 Oct 15

Reply #558722

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who is Salads Josh Throne ?
http://pickandroll.com.au/red-bull-reign-crowns-2015-champs-melbourne/


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:50 27 Oct 15

Reply #558748

re: 2016 WA SBL

the salads should start their own SBL team


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Josh Throns
Two years ago
12:01 28 Oct 15

Reply #558867

re: 2016 WA SBL

Josh Throns was the captains of the salads. The team consisted of him, Ben Puser, Kyle armer and an asian guy they flew in from japan just for the event. They walked away with 20k prize money. Not a bad investment. I also heard they macked heaps of girls and that Josh Garlepp is a kewl dude


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:47 28 Oct 15

Reply #558876

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://basketball.australiabasket.com/player/Australia/Stirling_Senators/Josh_Throns/285815


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Boogie Cousins
Two years ago
13:21 28 Oct 15

Reply #558893

re: 2016 WA SBL

grumble grumble 3 on 3 grumble.......


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meggsie
Two years ago
16:23 28 Oct 15

Reply #558938

re: 2016 WA SBL

after seeing my girl "" doccy "" back home . ithought she may have come home after not coaching anymore over west. just been told by a good source she is playing for willeton club. keep turning those wheels girl


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 28 Oct 15

Reply #558962

re: 2016 WA SBL

Willo - Where the best junior program in the state doesn't count for anything against INSTANT success and a good size chequebook. If you were a parent of one of the younger Tigers D League Girls / Under 18 Girls, what sort of message does this signing send to them "Yeah look we really have loved you propping up our wabl teams to win the Gillam Trophy all those years but now Perry Lakes have won it, we feel we need to focus on winning SBL more by just buying players"


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Huh
Two years ago
18:09 28 Oct 15

Reply #558970

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^ what a dumb ass comment.

At the end of the day its a business & the business of winning. Get over it or send your girls to a new club.


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triton
Two years ago
18:47 28 Oct 15

Reply #559005

re: 2016 WA SBL

Huh...u da man. So right....BTW...A Couple of Gillam wins in the last 5 or so years doesn't make you the best junior club for development...laughable...


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Anon
Two years ago
18:58 28 Oct 15

Reply #559019

re: 2016 WA SBL

I heard Doccy could've stayed at Cockburn but they had to choose between paying her a bunch or spending that cash on Imports.


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Really
Two years ago
19:05 28 Oct 15

Reply #559024

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not sure I will believe this one until I see it. Willo obviously do spend cash on players and go with that model but I wouldn't have thought the offer was that good to take her away from the coaching role etc.


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Anon
Two years ago
19:13 28 Oct 15

Reply #559027

re: 2016 WA SBL

Don't think she even had the option of accepting. The Club made the decision.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:30 28 Oct 15

Reply #559034

re: 2016 WA SBL

I thought Willo had to have 80% willo juniors in their SBL and WSBL programs?


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jojo
Two years ago
21:09 28 Oct 15

Reply #559124

re: 2016 WA SBL

Heard the same roumer about doccy, also just saw on redbacks website that they have signed ash gilmore and rebbecca mercer and lisa wall button and more to come so same could be said for their juniors except if I was one of the young players at these clubs I would be rapped to have such great talents to learn from


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Reply #559136

re: 2016 WA SBL

Apparently Throns dunked on Lamar copeland in the final of the redbull three on three comp and in the process his dick grew three sizes. Meanwhile jg was crying in WA.


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Clive Nicholis
Two years ago
23:47 28 Oct 15

Reply #559183

re: 2016 WA SBL

apparently salads have applied for an SBL license with their winnings from the tournament. Red Bull has offred to back them.

If this is true its a coup for the league. Well done boiz


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:07 29 Oct 15

Reply #559185

re: 2016 WA SBL

lol "lamar" copeland


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Huh
Two years ago
10:46 29 Oct 15

Reply #559272

re: 2016 WA SBL

Boom recruiting by the Redbacks women team. wow.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:58 29 Oct 15

Reply #559275

re: 2016 WA SBL

How old is Gilmore now? Didn't she last play in 2010?


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hg
Two years ago
12:06 29 Oct 15

Reply #559293

re: 2016 WA SBL

29 i beleive


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Wolfpack Basketball
Two years ago
12:27 29 Oct 15

Reply #559299

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://www.wolfpackbasketball.com.au/news/general_news/craig_friday_appointed_head_coach_of_lady_wolfpack/296

https://www.facebook.com/OfficialWolfpackBasketball

Twitter & Instagram @WolfpackSBL


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:51 29 Oct 15

Reply #559310

re: 2016 WA SBL

more action in the WSBL than the SBL right now


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:01 29 Oct 15

Reply #559329

re: 2016 WA SBL

Did the Suns end up signing that import guy who was playing down at Lakeside on Thurs night A grade?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:09 29 Oct 15

Reply #559404

re: 2016 WA SBL

WA made the final of the 3 on 3 in melbourne?? surely not with that sqaud. Is basketball in australia that bad now days?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:13 29 Oct 15

Reply #559406

re: 2016 WA SBL

What are you talking about? Have you watched 3 on 3? It's not normal basketball, they had the perfect team for it. All good athletes, decent handles to get to the rim. And Garlepp.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:14 29 Oct 15

Reply #559409

re: 2016 WA SBL

You Sandgropers need to start ripping on BWA like the Croweaters do so well when it comes to BSA.


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Crive Nicholas
Two years ago
17:51 29 Oct 15

Reply #559425

re: 2016 WA SBL

We all just know BWA is screwed up at pretty much every level, so why talk about it.


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rinse
Two years ago
17:59 29 Oct 15

Reply #559429

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wow some pretty uneducated and generally hater based comments on here. What ever happened to these forums?!... Oh wait, nothing.

Do some of the posters on here seriously believe that Willetton as an Association base their success of SBL championships? Who won the SBL 2 years ago. East Perth. But guess what, no one cares!!! Take nothing away from them, but you have to ask yourself, ask soon as 12 months passes people forget.

The SBL program isn't the lifeblood of Willetton, I know that for a fact. They have a huge Junior competition. A good WABL program and a history of excellence. Ask anyone in the state which associationS are the best at what they do and they'd be lying if they didn't say Willetton, Perry Lakes or Joondalup. State teams are stacked with players from these associations. It all comes down to your measuring stick. If it's:
-participation ... Willetton have it covered
- finance .... Willetton have it covered
- player development (WABL) ... Willetton have it covered. Well done to Perry Lakes on winning the Gillam Trophy, and it was decided on grand final day where the Hawks won way more finals than the Tigers. Doesn't mean that Willettons WABL program is a failure, finishing second?!
- SBL success... admittedly, their SBL program has been off for about 5 years in the men, women made a nice come back last year. I agree, juniors don't get much of a look in. But in my honest opinion, Willetton treat the SBL as some fun to boost club culture. They get people through the doors, the highest of any metro association.

Willetton don't lose sleep over their SBL program, so maybe be a bit more positive and just concentrate on the 2016 SBL season ahead! Despite far less player movement this year than last ( or maybe it's a bit more hush)


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Jethro Clampett
Two years ago
18:11 29 Oct 15

Reply #559430

re: 2016 WA SBL

"Did the Suns end up signing that import guy who was playing down at Lakeside on Thurs night A grade?"

Who knows what's happening, all pretty quite from the Hills, pretty sure they've signed their new WSBL coach but no news on it. You can't go rushing things.


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Anon
Two years ago
00:04 30 Oct 15

Reply #559710

re: 2016 WA SBL

Why the hell is Basketball SA, Women's SBL, 3 on 3 and WABL being discussed here???

Go and create your own thread of meaningless tripe.

I get that you are bored and have no life, but stay out of mine.


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koberulz
Two years ago
00:21 30 Oct 15

Reply #559716

re: 2016 WA SBL

Why isn't WSBL relevant here? It's an SBL thread, not an MSBL thread.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:30 30 Oct 15

Reply #559734

re: 2016 WA SBL

cockburn cougars with the best juniors?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:20 30 Oct 15

Reply #559741

re: 2016 WA SBL

Julian Pesava and who else?


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Huh
Two years ago
10:45 30 Oct 15

Reply #559812

re: 2016 WA SBL

Eat a fat one Anon


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Greeny
Two years ago
11:29 30 Oct 15

Reply #559829

re: 2016 WA SBL

Think the WOMEN'S SBL will be strong in 2016. Any news on Cockburns and Suns coaching appointments, they may need to hurry up so they can start signing players.
In the Men's is there any news on the Buccs new coach.


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Rock Lobster
Two years ago
11:53 30 Oct 15

Reply #559843

re: 2016 WA SBL

Word on Marine Terrace is that former Giants and Cougars Championship winning coach has agreed to terms to lead the Buccs ship. Ominous signs for the league of this is so! Proven winner and taking over a program on the cusp of greatness. Big budget, good locals, and greatest home court advantage in the SBL. Title town heading north!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 30 Oct 15

Reply #559851

re: 2016 WA SBL

Be good to have Charlie back in the league.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:09 30 Oct 15

Reply #559867

re: 2016 WA SBL

Heard Cougars have signed Daniel Thomas and the Della brothers Grant Davey not playing.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:10 30 Oct 15

Reply #559868

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wow Charlie back Will do well in Gero


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:52 30 Oct 15

Reply #559883

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cougars making moves, Not sure if they would need both Della brothers. Rhett Yes obviously but cant see Brendan sticking a spot in front of their kids. Parsons showed he can manage a team so interesting to see how he goes if true.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:21 30 Oct 15

Reply #559898

re: 2016 WA SBL

Dan-yell "all bout me" Thomas will ruin any team cohesion at the cougars quicker than a half good lookin import finds a chick to hook up with at freo metropolis! from first hand knowledge, certain cougars life members & directors wont have either of the della's back either, plus rhett wants to be paid for that disgusting looking thing he calls a game! Stay in underachieving mandurah boys, we don't need ya


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:44 30 Oct 15

Reply #559928

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nice way to show the world your still sour and jaded TVL.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:05 30 Oct 15

Reply #559933

re: 2016 WA SBL

the cougars have not even signed a coach so doubt they have signed any players as of now.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:12 30 Oct 15

Reply #559936

re: 2016 WA SBL

Must say cannot believe the amount of anger that circulates through this forum. Rhett Della has been involved in this league and has provided headaches for teams galore in his many years, he is a work horse and yes his game is rather odd looking but its effective and it works.

If DT was a cohesion wrecker, its a bit odd that the richest club in the league (SO THEY SAY) would continue to have him for 5 years and make him a part of the 25 year history of the Buccaneers as a top 12 player in club history. Especially after a snapped achilles. Why would the club waste the time and money to get him up there if he was that bad?

Some very salty and sandy vaggginnnaaass in here. Here's looking at you kid!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:15 30 Oct 15

Reply #559937

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looks like a few people have played there cards on the forum today


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kewl boi
Two years ago
16:21 30 Oct 15

Reply #559938

re: 2016 WA SBL

fyi R. Della dropped 40 at SBL Summer League (sounds better than lakeside A Grade) last night. Against quite a stacked teamed as well. No doubt he can play.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:21 30 Oct 15

Reply #559939

re: 2016 WA SBL

cockburn would be better developing their junior guards rather than signing DT


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:34 30 Oct 15

Reply #559943

re: 2016 WA SBL

lol at how emotional people get over state league


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:44 30 Oct 15

Reply #559945

re: 2016 WA SBL

I thought that both Rhett and DT are both Cockburn juniors, has been talk of beef with them all for years, but there was always one common dominator. who isn't there anymore.
I would love to know why all the hatred towards those two guys Mrs your a nobody now and will always be nobody and cant stand it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:06 30 Oct 15

Reply #559969

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cougars did so well last year. Rhett and Daniel will complete the team. Brendo is an athlete and good defence well worth having . So Dellas Thomas Field McIntyre ,Pesava Prince Harris and import.Are they getting Two imports Should be a good team.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:25 1 Nov 15

Reply #560429

re: 2016 WA SBL

Have figured out how to track IP address's. Most of the negative people commenting on this are from the country, The rest Perth plebs. Working out order of hit list will post soon...

meanwhile

Corey Easlierly to Rockingham because has job at Kwinana Speed way.

Trian Iliadis to Stirling to play with lifelong mentor Mike ellis and good friend Nic Iliadis

nic Cody to Perry Lakes getting very good money and beerz

Trent Worthington to Geraldton for seachange

Ryan Smith signed with WCE apparently.

All legit NBL players stearing cler of league due to overwhelming support of internet trolls


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:15 2 Nov 15

Reply #560537

re: 2016 WA SBL

I'm sure you're joking but someone actually said to me Worthington to the Buccs


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not nic cody
Two years ago
12:12 4 Nov 15

Reply #560942

re: 2016 WA SBL

nic cody likes beerz


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:20 4 Nov 15

Reply #560956

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any legitimate rumours from anyone?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:33 4 Nov 15

Reply #560981

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any players reading this what are your thoughts on a shortened sbl season with long weekends etc off? I havent heard anyone say anything negative so far yet it probably won't happened unless someone pushes it


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:39 4 Nov 15

Reply #560982

re: 2016 WA SBL

The season length is fine. Play everyone twice, home and away. No double headers on the long weekend might be good though, so your whole weekend isn't consumed.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:15 4 Nov 15

Reply #560988

re: 2016 WA SBL

any news on import signings?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:45 4 Nov 15

Reply #560992

re: 2016 WA SBL

I would rather it be a month shorter. At least one weekend off in the middle would be cool. By the end of the season whena double header comes around most are moaning at the thought of playing twice in 24 hours


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:47 4 Nov 15

Reply #560993

re: 2016 WA SBL

Confirmed - Willetton has just signed Adrian Majstrovich


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:56 4 Nov 15

Reply #561002

re: 2016 WA SBL

didnt willetton sign him last year :)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:22 4 Nov 15

Reply #561010

re: 2016 WA SBL

any updates on redbacks?


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
00:58 5 Nov 15

Reply #561187

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is the guy with Lachie Neale and Steph Curry in the photo on the AFL site the Lakeside announcer?


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Greeny
Two years ago
01:03 5 Nov 15

Reply #561190

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yes it is


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
01:14 5 Nov 15

Reply #561193

re: 2016 WA SBL

It's Aaron Ford, he's the Owner of Hype Tours. He's the guy that arranged for all their access to the players.


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
11:58 5 Nov 15

Reply #561337

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thanks guys. I would like to meet MJ, Larry Bird and Magic, do you think he could arrange that?


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
12:23 5 Nov 15

Reply #561344

re: 2016 WA SBL

How about you ask him?


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Anon
Two years ago
12:55 5 Nov 15

Reply #561360

re: 2016 WA SBL

Season length is good don't really mind playing a double on the weekend cause Basketball is fun and it also gives teams a chance to grow and get better throughout the season you shorten it and the teams that start hot will be in the playoffs you won't see teams like Kal coming back and almost winning the whole thing. As far as AJ he's goin back to NZ I believe.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:21 5 Nov 15

Reply #561369

re: 2016 WA SBL

Kal didnt almost win the whole thing


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:23 5 Nov 15

Reply #561403

re: 2016 WA SBL

slammers althought making the GF also did not almost win the whole thing


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
16:04 5 Nov 15

Reply #561464

re: 2016 WA SBL

Can you not understand the context in which Anon made his statement?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:07 6 Nov 15

Reply #561684

re: 2016 WA SBL

Shorten the season for christs sake,

too long, there is no need to play every team twice just have two conferences and then approximately 20 games.

Would make the season soooo much more bareable with full time work and part time puss.... very verrrrry part time... actually more of a casual basis

Corey Easily to Mandurah...'This is a lock


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meggsie
Two years ago
13:19 6 Nov 15

Reply #561808

re: 2016 WA SBL

my contacts in the west tell me that there is something brewing on the crayfish coast. - rock lobster can you confirm.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:16 6 Nov 15

Reply #561821

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rock lobster has no idea about any movements within the buccaneers organisation.


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AJ fan
Two years ago
15:08 6 Nov 15

Reply #561844

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who the hell do you think you are Anon?!?1 i saw AJ at Willetton training last night. Him and the blacks were having a laugh about the good ol' days. People like you are sucking all credibility out of this once respectful meeting place of SBL brother lovers.

For the last time Adrian Majstrovich - Confirmed to Willetton 2016


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
16:08 6 Nov 15

Reply #561862

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is M.Clayden returning to Willo MSLB next season or is he being replaced by S.Black?


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AJ fan
Two years ago
16:12 6 Nov 15

Reply #561863

re: 2016 WA SBL

AJ is replacing the coaching staff confirmed


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
16:18 6 Nov 15

Reply #561866

re: 2016 WA SBL

The Blacks 'having a laugh' is an oxymoron...


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AJ fan
Two years ago
16:22 6 Nov 15

Reply #561868

re: 2016 WA SBL

no ur a moron


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
16:26 6 Nov 15

Reply #561869

re: 2016 WA SBL

Maybe...but a very predictable response.

I hope Mastrovich is worth the massive coin he is no doubt commanding. I hope he is as good as he once was...


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AnonyMoose
Two years ago
16:57 6 Nov 15

Reply #561881

re: 2016 WA SBL

Da moose is in the billding!
Forma NBL player to be nu coach in midwest. 2 forma jnrs back at cockburn for their fynal seasons. Masiv syning with nbl ties to be annownced at stirling for 2nd restricted playa spot with c ellis taking da other spot. wortho 2 gero, doccy 2 willo, ella kennedy 2 flames, louella tomlinson 2 make her cinematic re-appearance in nu dodgeball seqwel, nate jawai bein linked to Hawks, ben smith 2 join da other ben smith at mandurah, seva chan to east perth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:41 6 Nov 15

Reply #561898

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pretty sure that's all crap^


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:19 7 Nov 15

Reply #562122

re: 2016 WA SBL

Only a couple of things of that are true, effing LOL at the Louella rumour!!


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jojo
Two years ago
22:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562822

re: 2016 WA SBL

Doccy to perry lakes


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:45 9 Nov 15

Reply #562862

re: 2016 WA SBL

Aaron trahair confirmed buccs head coach 2016


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:54 9 Nov 15

Reply #562913

re: 2016 WA SBL

Della and DT confirmed at cougars.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:54 9 Nov 15

Reply #562937

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nothing confirmed anywhere yet other than Trahair at Gero.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:08 9 Nov 15

Reply #562942

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rubbish thread


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:42 9 Nov 15

Reply #562984

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is Timms signed anywhere? He could be off to collage?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:15 9 Nov 15

Reply #562994

re: 2016 WA SBL

Timms not keen on college


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really
Two years ago
15:33 9 Nov 15

Reply #562997

re: 2016 WA SBL

I would imagine some teams are close to starting some form of pre-season. Obviously there are still a lot of players who may not yet commit but we should start to see the movements soon.

With the apparent mass-exodus from Perth/Mandurah, the coaching changes at Buccs/Lakeside/EP/Bunbury, and the loss of a couple of unrestricted 'imports' (Ty, Lewis) there will likely be some substantial movement.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:52 9 Nov 15

Reply #563001

re: 2016 WA SBL

Where has the buccs announcement been confirmed?

Cougars players are saying that DT and Della are playing for Cockburn now.

Heard so many rumors about Timms (Sun/Wolves/Lakeside/East Perth).

Why has Lewis left? Where is he playing now? Lakeside will probably look the same as last year but probably have better imports with a ex-D1 coach coming in.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:08 9 Nov 15

Reply #563022

re: 2016 WA SBL

might be hard to get a better import than Jordan Swing at Lakeside. Luke Thomas they can upgrade on.


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Anon
Two years ago
18:51 9 Nov 15

Reply #563028

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ex D1 player not coach ;)


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hg
Two years ago
11:46 10 Nov 15

Reply #563146

re: 2016 WA SBL

bianca donovan to perth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:34 10 Nov 15

Reply #563157

re: 2016 WA SBL

Buccs officially announced Trahair as their head coach


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rinse
Two years ago
01:14 11 Nov 15

Reply #563292

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not sure if it's been said already, returning imports include:

Lien Philp - almost confirmed
Bryton Hobbs - confirmed
Najee Lane - confirmed
Kevin Davis - confirmed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:16 11 Nov 15

Reply #563293

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lane is not coming back


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
03:40 11 Nov 15

Reply #563295

re: 2016 WA SBL

With Brandon McGill joining Cockburn, it's hard to see Lane returning


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:49 11 Nov 15

Reply #563314

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lane confirmed not coming back


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:55 11 Nov 15

Reply #563628

re: 2016 WA SBL

How can someone confirm Hobbs or Philp is returning? Returning to who? Are you Triscari or Nix? DTS


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Reply #563753

re: 2016 WA SBL

I've spoken to Nixy and I know he has confirmed with me that Hobbs will definitely be back for the Hawks next season.


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Anon
Two years ago
15:30 12 Nov 15

Reply #563785

re: 2016 WA SBL

Phillip is not confirmed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:23 12 Nov 15

Reply #563809

re: 2016 WA SBL

.


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Really
Two years ago
17:47 12 Nov 15

Reply #563815

re: 2016 WA SBL

That is prob why rinse said almost confirmed...


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Reply #563829

re: 2016 WA SBL

Perhaps this is why Triscari hasn't said anything regarding Phillp... the Merry Go Round up in the hills continues!!

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-5011-0-0-0


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:37 12 Nov 15

Reply #563837

re: 2016 WA SBL

the merry go round, the revolving door or whatever term you would like to use.

there has to be something going on up there for them to go through 5 coaches in 8 seasons


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:19 12 Nov 15

Reply #563848

re: 2016 WA SBL

The womens program seemed quite stable with Mansfield there, but Kranz-Little lasted just one year and the mens program is looking for another coach again.

Suns seem to spend money willingly on imports and recruit locals like most other clubs.

So what are the issues with coaches coming and going in quick succession?


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goldie
Two years ago
03:52 13 Nov 15

Reply #563945

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hawks also targeting 'australian' restricted player.
Tevin Jackson to return after some time against Ben Simmons. Dangerous with B Dixon (wildcats dp) , Hobbs, Cassir, Tevin, + need a big centre.

Lakeside again working the Christian player pool but no luck yet.

Heard they Mullenax could be naturalised. Gee, if that earlier rumour of Easley to Mandurah is true, that essentially makes Mandurah the new SouthWest with 2 American Australians.

The usual suspects: Ephrem Davis returning, as is Cory Cooperwood, destination unknown but have begun talks.

PS: venue changes this year?!?! Where's Mandurah going to play?. Redbacks walk on Curtin, I guess it cost them a bit. Stirling with a new facility too.


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Anon
Two years ago
11:39 13 Nov 15

Reply #564077

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tevin is not allowed to play you D1 rules but nice try plus playing D1 Basketball way more important than playing SBL. Hills have problem with spending money ever since Bad Santa murdered there money.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:25 13 Nov 15

Reply #564116

re: 2016 WA SBL

hahahah kenny brunner, what a disgrace to real basketball lol.


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Greeny
Two years ago
01:38 14 Nov 15

Reply #564349

re: 2016 WA SBL

If I was Suns I'd be talking with Charlie about coaching. Think they need an experienced coach that has a had success.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:56 14 Nov 15

Reply #564456

re: 2016 WA SBL

What's happening with the Slammers? Are they going to get another import? Jeremy Paull playing D1 men's, maybe returning after playing College ball?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:00 15 Nov 15

Reply #564602

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers won't be as good next year, don't think they will recruit hard enough


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:46 16 Nov 15

Reply #564666

re: 2016 WA SBL

word on the street is Seva and Holmes have both left Suns. Very little to work with there now.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:36 16 Nov 15

Reply #564675

re: 2016 WA SBL

Seva and Timms both @ Lakeside training yesterday


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really
Two years ago
13:56 16 Nov 15

Reply #564701

re: 2016 WA SBL

Suns have taken a big backward step from a 2 win season (if that is possible). If they could have kept the same roster and added a couple of solid SBL players, maybe attracted Timms/Ben Smith back, then they would have climbed up the ladder very quickly.
A lineup of Seva/Smith/Import/Import/Timms with Holmes/Dunnell/Horn/Murray would be very competitive. Add someone like Dennis T and the lineup could compete for top 8.
But that seems to be the opposite direction to where the Suns are heading.
Coach gone, Seva going, Homes going, unlikely any solid recruits and possibly one import...
2 wins may look very good by the end of season 2016


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Wally the wolf
Two years ago
14:56 16 Nov 15

Reply #564711

re: 2016 WA SBL

Funny that....
Wolfpack practice on Sunday, full compliment scrimmaged against the State School boys team - Timms and Huntington looked exceptional together...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:11 16 Nov 15

Reply #564712

re: 2016 WA SBL

Imagine if he did two in one day! Do you think he would be ok?

He was there


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Greeny
Two years ago
15:44 16 Nov 15

Reply #564717

re: 2016 WA SBL

With Chan and Holmes leaving Suns, they definately have to try and get Charlie to coach. Need an experienced coach not an untried one, so they can try and get some players to the club.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:50 16 Nov 15

Reply #564718

re: 2016 WA SBL

Maybe the Suns would be better off going with an untried coach?
Triscari and Kuhn were both tried and although attracted many players to the club were unable to win more than a handful of games combined over the last 3 seasons.
It seems that pretty much all those players they brought in are no longer there either. Maybe an untried coach, developing from within and starting from scratch is what they need?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:51 16 Nov 15

Reply #564720

re: 2016 WA SBL

lol on Timms doing both Lakeside and Wolves trainings


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:03 16 Nov 15

Reply #564727

re: 2016 WA SBL

Funny how the Slammers haven't even starting training and probably won't until after Christmas, bloody ridiculous


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Greeny
Two years ago
16:14 16 Nov 15

Reply #564730

re: 2016 WA SBL

Maybe the Suns would be better off going with an untried coach?
Triscari and Kuhn were both tried and although attracted many players to the club were unable to win more than a handful of games combined over the last 3 seasons.
It seems that pretty much all those players they brought in are no longer there either. Maybe an untried coach, developing from within and starting from scratch is what they need?


Maybe, but is there any talent within? It's seems they've tried to rebuild before from within, went without imports for a couple of years, some years only had one import.
Maybe go with young guys, get thumped every week, young guys get sick of getting beaten then leave. I don't have the answers, but I hope someone at the club does.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:16 16 Nov 15

Reply #564731

re: 2016 WA SBL

Most clubs don't start training until January


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:53 16 Nov 15

Reply #564739

re: 2016 WA SBL

Redbacks have started training. Lakovic maybe tryin to work out how to play a zone on defense, so he knows how to beat one on offense!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:15 16 Nov 15

Reply #564764

re: 2016 WA SBL

If Redbacks have started training, who is attending?

If the so called mass exodus of nearly their entire roster is true then whos down there?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:56 16 Nov 15

Reply #564779

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lewis Thomas is at Redbacks isn't he?


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CT
Two years ago
19:20 16 Nov 15

Reply #564785

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rumours going around, josh garlep turning purple


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Mambo #5
Two years ago
19:43 16 Nov 15

Reply #564789

re: 2016 WA SBL

LT and NL together ... major ego clash just waiting to happen!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:06 17 Nov 15

Reply #564866

re: 2016 WA SBL

whose lt and nl


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:20 17 Nov 15

Reply #564872

re: 2016 WA SBL

Could be Lewis Thomas and Nic Lacovic.

Could be Louis Timms at his fifteenth tryout this season and Nic.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:59 17 Nov 15

Reply #564902

re: 2016 WA SBL

so outside of nic lacko and lewis thomas did anyone else go to redbacks tryouts?


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hg
Two years ago
12:14 17 Nov 15

Reply #564904

re: 2016 WA SBL

redbacks havnt had tryouts yet


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:47 17 Nov 15

Reply #564913

re: 2016 WA SBL

Call me stupid but who the hell is Lewis Thomas?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:02 17 Nov 15

Reply #564917

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think hes a Perth guy who played div2 college for the past few years


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Anon
Two years ago
16:49 17 Nov 15

Reply #564972

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think the SBL should go to points system like QBL.

QBL Points System Explained - 2015
The Queensland Basketball League (QBL) is a competition for Queensland basketball
associations which underpins the WNBL and NBL and provides entertainment to spectators
by showcasing the most talented basketball players within Queensland. The QBL provides a
pathway for Queensland players, coaches and officials through the development
opportunities that the QBL offers. For some this will be the pinnacle of their pathway and for
others it will be a stepping stone on their pathway to the WNBL and NBL and National
Representation.
The points system is designed to ensure that young, aspiring players (particularly those who
have been developed by the association they represent in the QBL) are provided
development opportunities while still allowing QBL clubs to introduce players to augment
their teams.
Points System
The points applicable are outlined below:
Category 2015 Points
1. A player who is not an Australian citizen and who is required under the rules of FIBA to hold an
annual Foreign Player's Licence (Excluding New Zealand)
12
2. Any player defined as restricted due to the minutes played in the NBL or WNBL in the QBL Rules10
3. Any Australian citizen who has last played in a Euroleague Team or any Division 1 competition
in the countries set out in the Restricted Foreign Leagues tables
10
4. Any player defined as restricted due to the minutes played in the NBL or WNBL in the QBL
Rules within the last two (2) years
5
5. Unrestricted NBL/WNBL Players 5
6. Any player that has an approved Permanent Resident Visa for Australia.
(Note that this category does not apply to players that may have played in a restricted foreign
country or be defined as restricted due to their NBL/WNBL status)
5
7. Any player who has last played in a foreign country other than those set out in Category 3 3
8. An NBL contracted Development Player 3
9. Players 24 years old or more who do not meet the above criteria 2
10. Players under 24 years who do not meet any of the above criteria 1
TOTAL POINTS APPLICABLE TO 15 REGISTERED PLAYERS PER TEAM 38
Special Conditions
1 point is added for each registered player over 15 registered players up to 20 registered players where the total points
applicable is 43.
If a team has less than 15 registered players, points are reduced by 1 point for each player less than 15.
New Zealand nationals who reside in Australia are now permitted to play in the QBL and their points rating will be
determined upon their age and Basketball experience. Eg: If they last played in a Div 1 restricted foreign league they carry the
applicable points rating of 10 however if they are under 24 and have never played in a restricted foreign league they would
be a 1 point player.
Special Dispensations
Player Points are reduced by 50% if the player has played Under 18 Representative Basketball with the QBL association they
are registering with. (Note: associations have the ability to apply for an exemption should a player have departed the
program after U16 representative level to take up a scholarship or attend a boarding school. This exemption also applies if
your association could not field an U18 team at a specific state championship)
Player Points are reduced by 50% if the player has played QBL for the association they are registering with for 100 games (not
including games in which they suited up and did not play). This points reduction does not apply to players who are classified
as Restricted under the QBL rules.
Loyalty rules for restricted players and Foreign Players – If a restricted or foreign player has competed for 100 games or eight
consecutive seasons with a QBL club they would be deemed unrestricted as a part of this loyalty clause. This rule only
extends to one player per team and this player will not receive a player points discount on their points rating unless they
were a player that played Under 18's for the association.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 17 Nov 15

Reply #564979

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any system that limits the talent (outside of imports) in any given league is not a good system.


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rinse
Two years ago
19:07 17 Nov 15

Reply #564983

re: 2016 WA SBL

The points system is a good idea and definitely useful in ensuring the clubs look to their own talent pools, but in the SBL I think it could be seriously detrimental.

Things to remember about the SBL is that it isn't a development league. There is probably one team as of late that could be seen as a development TEAM (East Perth), but the Wildcats aren't going to be overly interested in the SBL. They're a business and they are looking to get bums on seats, not support local talent. They do a good job of it too (running a business). Prather, Daniels, these are guys that get people through the door.

SBL would be seriously impacted by a points system in my opinion, and would eventually fizzle to nothing.

But thats just me opinion. The SBL isn't in danger of falling apart, its just plodding along.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:49 17 Nov 15

Reply #564985

re: 2016 WA SBL

points system = no thanks


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:28 18 Nov 15

Reply #565107

re: 2016 WA SBL

point systems are horrible


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meggsie
Two years ago
11:51 18 Nov 15

Reply #565126

re: 2016 WA SBL

apperently there are quite a few girls staying over west after they finish their lynx season. does anyone know who they are and where they have decided to play.
also have been told whitcomb may be heading over east to play in seabl perhaps better money over here.


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hg
Two years ago
12:00 18 Nov 15

Reply #565135

re: 2016 WA SBL

good bet would be flames then as their coach is lynx assistant and would have first contact with lynx players.


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boo
Two years ago
12:04 18 Nov 15

Reply #565139

re: 2016 WA SBL

Would be expensive exersise as you would have to pay them,
house them, transport them, almost like an import.
Word on the street is not many clubs could afford them


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jojo
Two years ago
12:09 18 Nov 15

Reply #565144

re: 2016 WA SBL

Maybe wolves, flames, suns, stirling, lightning.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:17 18 Nov 15

Reply #565148

re: 2016 WA SBL

Whitcomb isn't going anywhere.
Burton - Hawks
Lavey - Senators / Lightning
Louella - Tigers


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jojo
Two years ago
12:53 18 Nov 15

Reply #565162

re: 2016 WA SBL

Burton to Hawks with doccy will make them strong.
Lavey probably to lightning as stirling have signed import Van Dyke and if they keep amber land their import spots filled.


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Greeny
Two years ago
13:06 18 Nov 15

Reply #565167

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lavey would be good, but with the Rio Olympics in August if she makes the Opals squad she may not be available much if at all.


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jojo
Two years ago
13:13 18 Nov 15

Reply #565169

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lavey and burton wouldnt be available for finals.


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Greeny
Two years ago
13:37 18 Nov 15

Reply #565180

re: 2016 WA SBL

Might be more than Finals, training camps, practice games.


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Just Sayin'
Two years ago
00:59 19 Nov 15

Reply #565366

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lavey in talks with Wanneroo!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:33 19 Nov 15

Reply #565390

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jay Bowie to willo??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:15 19 Nov 15

Reply #565425

re: 2016 WA SBL

Do you want shots? 'cause that's not how you get shots


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:29 19 Nov 15

Reply #565444

re: 2016 WA SBL

willetton must be putting out all sorts of cash. Paying Scott, Armour, Black and then Bowie wont come cheap after leaving kalgoorlie will want more money than previous season and then another import. Surely the SBL checks books and under the table dealings.


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Hogwash
Two years ago
13:30 19 Nov 15

Reply #565445

re: 2016 WA SBL

I suppose that confirms Easley is leaving Willo.


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Greeny
Two years ago
13:50 19 Nov 15

Reply #565446

re: 2016 WA SBL

Triscari named Cockburns WSBL coach.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:01 19 Nov 15

Reply #565451

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley will be an Aussie this year early on, so can utilize that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:36 19 Nov 15

Reply #565459

re: 2016 WA SBL

Corey (Easley), said to be coming back to East Perth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:42 19 Nov 15

Reply #565468

re: 2016 WA SBL

Also hearing Easley to East Perth although Bunbury and Mandurah lurking


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Clive Nicholls
Two years ago
15:58 19 Nov 15

Reply #565473

re: 2016 WA SBL

If bowie going to Willo maybe thats why cody rumoured to be going to Kal


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Anon
Two years ago
17:35 19 Nov 15

Reply #565490

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jake Burston and Hayden Noordhoek package deal looking for starting gig demands include unlimited gym and personal training sessions.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:02 19 Nov 15

Reply #565492

re: 2016 WA SBL

They probably have a good shot somewhere in the WSBL


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:58 19 Nov 15

Reply #565534

re: 2016 WA SBL


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jesus
Two years ago
23:05 19 Nov 15

Reply #565539

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cockburn team looking solid

PG: Thomas/Van Lit
SG: Import/Prince
SF: Field/Peseva
PF: Della/Mcintyre
C:: Import/Holmes


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troy
Two years ago
23:06 19 Nov 15

Reply #565540

re: 2016 WA SBL

hickert to perry lakes
josh weir is at wayland as an assitant under harrelson
big ben smith/corey easley/michael lay all rumoured to be contacted by the slammers


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:29 20 Nov 15

Reply #565552

re: 2016 WA SBL

Michael Lay I don't believe that with Nichols re-signing,

Is Hickert definantly heading to Perry Lakes?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:02 20 Nov 15

Reply #565602

re: 2016 WA SBL

What do you guys all recon. Will finish school soon should I go play college ball (div 2, Div 3) or stay in Perth and go to uni here and bench warm/work way up rotation in SBL??


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really
Two years ago
12:54 20 Nov 15

Reply #565611

re: 2016 WA SBL

On paper the Cougars look to be a solid unit. My only concern would be around the 'large personalities' on that suggested team.
I think a big part of their success last year was the way the entire squad bought into the system and played for coach Parsons.
Interesting mix of veterans who are probably past their prime and guys like Holmes/Pesava who are looking to establish themselves.
As I said, on paper looks good but lets see how the dynamics play out. Also a lot depends on what level of imports they get and if they adapt and fit within team structure.

Some of the other rumours mentioned are very interesting.
If Cody was to leave Willetton that would be a big lose and, if Noordhoek also leaves, puts a massive dent in the clubs local player content. (I don't see Cody leaving)
Also Hickert leaving Bunbury a similar story. Although this is more common with players from country teams going metro for reasons other than bball.

The top 10 'free agents' that have been rumoured to move and will make a significant difference I feel are:
- Nic Cody
- Seva Chan
- Dennis T
- Louis Timms
- Ben Smith (guard)
- Ben Smith (big)
- Rhett Della
- Easley (if he is not a restricted player anymore)
- DT
- Corey Martin
- Mullenax (he might not move but if he becomes unrestricted it will have big impact)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:46 20 Nov 15

Reply #565654

re: 2016 WA SBL

Re Anon ^^

Talk to your coach, he will have a good idea re your upside and whether you should go or stay. College will give you the best chance to reach your potential. If you are never going to play pro it can just delay your study and working life for a few years for no reason other than being a better player. You should talk to some guys who have done time in college, there are a lot around who can give you a good insight.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:36 20 Nov 15

Reply #565669

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^Anon Remember the Aussie dollar is only worth 70 cents now so college will be expensive. A scholarship helps a LOT but there are many associated expenses that you or your parents will have to bear. Having said that the college is experience is fantastic, the standard of facilities and coaching is way above anything you will see here, even in Div3 and JUCOs. But you need the right mindset to be away from family and friends and to fit in with teammates who will see you as taking their spot and their girlfriends. Whether or not college will prepare you for a professional career is doubtful but I can way, with the right attitude, you will return with fantastic life experience.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:56 20 Nov 15

Reply #565678

re: 2016 WA SBL

Copied above post to add:


The top 10 'free agents' that have been rumoured to move and will make a significant difference I feel are:
- Nic Cody - rumoured to be heading to Kal, probably not true and staying at Willo.
- Seva Chan - confirmed at Lakeside
- Dennis T - taking the year off?
- Louis Timms - college
- Ben Smith (guard) - ????
- Ben Smith (big)- ????
- Rhett Della - Cockburn
- Easley (if he is not a restricted player anymore) - ????
- DT - Cockburn
- Corey Martin - Lakeside
- Mullenax (he might not move but if he becomes unrestricted it will have big impact) - Mandurah


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Greeny
Two years ago
17:42 20 Nov 15

Reply #565686

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any word of import signings for the men and women. I know clubs like to be secretive but it's good to see Cougars have announced an import, Brandon McGill 6'2" guard.


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
20:46 20 Nov 15

Reply #565748

re: 2016 WA SBL

Why would Cody leave Willo?


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sick of crap
Two years ago
00:53 21 Nov 15

Reply #565777

re: 2016 WA SBL

If anyone believes anything on this forum believe this:
Any forum that allows anonymous posts is likely full of shite. Go back to the SBL forum, register and back what your post by putting your name to it.
What .... not going to happen...oh well we just stick with up to date, accurate and informative posts here and we just have a good laugh...


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rinse
Two years ago
02:20 21 Nov 15

Reply #565787

re: 2016 WA SBL

For those interested in WSBL, minor signings by the Flames in Ella Kennedy and Amanda Pether. Not sure if it's been posted prior.

Don't rate either really, not bad basketballers though. Pether has a decent 3 pt shot on her though and was a shining light for a terrible Lakeside team last year.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:48 21 Nov 15

Reply #565824

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tessa Lavey should play for the Slammers, looks good in red


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:03 21 Nov 15

Reply #565858

re: 2016 WA SBL

well if the giants are not getting Bowie back (again just a rumour here until the clubs start announcing there signings) and uncertainties of player and coaching appts, it could be more rebuilding and pain for the Giants. Time will tell


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:02 21 Nov 15

Reply #565909

re: 2016 WA SBL

I wish clubs announced what the hell is going on, it's such a bogan like league, every year I never truly know who's going to be on the team and it sucks


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Not you
Two years ago
10:00 22 Nov 15

Reply #565943

re: 2016 WA SBL

Anon, the comp doesn't start until March and most teams haven't held an open try out yet. So just chill out Coz most teams announce signings or we get it on here from confirmed / unconfirmed rumours


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:42 22 Nov 15

Reply #565971

re: 2016 WA SBL

True true haha, just sometimes some things go unannounced


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:14 22 Nov 15

Reply #566073

re: 2016 WA SBL

Daniel Thomas CONFIRMED at Cockburn


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Anon
Two years ago
11:59 23 Nov 15

Reply #566159

re: 2016 WA SBL

Muo confirmed playing in SEABL


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really
Two years ago
12:53 23 Nov 15

Reply #566166

re: 2016 WA SBL

If this is accurate, that Mua in Seabl, then we may be back to all teams only having the 2 x restricted players (and no naturalised players...)
Although I think there is a case for the 3 x country teams having some kind of allowance where they can have 3 restricted players, with the 3rd one having to be on a working holiday or something.
Although Buccs will always be tough with Wunders/Ralph as part of their lineup, Giants and Slammers look to struggle this season unless they can attract some additional Aussie players.
When Wunders/Ralph retire it will be tough for Buccs to replace them with local talent.
Not saying it is a negative or a positive, but would DT have had the most club changes in history? From my knowledge it is East Perth, Cockburn x 2, Magic, Buccs x 2 at least. 6 club changes.


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Malltin
Two years ago
14:51 23 Nov 15

Reply #566192

re: 2016 WA SBL

Corey Easley and Austin Bruton go close


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Malltin
Two years ago
15:01 23 Nov 15

Reply #566194

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley
Cougars~Suns~Eagles~Hawks~tigers
Bruton
Eagles~lightning~Cougars ~ Suns~Senators
If I'm not wrong
What about Justin eckhardt?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:20 23 Nov 15

Reply #566237

re: 2016 WA SBL

Where is Muo confirmed to be playing in SEABL?

And I don't think there's any such rule about country sides allowing a third restricted player. If there was I'm sure the Giants would have done it a long time ago


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:16 23 Nov 15

Reply #566249

re: 2016 WA SBL

I heard Nic Cody was at east freo wafl pre season along with Nordhoek


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:12 24 Nov 15

Reply #566256

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jarod Holmes is back at the Cougars and that shit hole of a stadium


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:11 24 Nov 15

Reply #566258

re: 2016 WA SBL

At least it is there own stadium. It's grimey but at least it has character to it. Not a rec centre or run by a church. Cockburn has more history and produced NBL legends galore than most almost all of the other clubs. Someone has had their vagina filled with sand by the sounds of it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:44 24 Nov 15

Reply #566273

re: 2016 WA SBL

Someone tried out for Cockburn and got told they werent required by the sounds of it


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really
Two years ago
10:45 24 Nov 15

Reply #566276

re: 2016 WA SBL

I highly doubt Cody would be thinking of an AFL career. He has a long track history of injuries, particularly knee problems, which would likely prevent him taking the knocks in footy.
Having said this, he would be a very mobile ruckman with his height and length.

We should start to see some confirmation of player movement, or lack of, over the next couple of weeks as teams have some initial sessions prior to christmas.

Last year there seemed to be a very good level of new imports to the league, it will be interesting how many of these are retained and what the new guys look like.


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jojo
Two years ago
11:58 24 Nov 15

Reply #566288

re: 2016 WA SBL

so wsbl movements so far.
doccy to hawks kennedy and pether to rockingham.
van dyke to stirling(imoport)
mercer, gilmore, wallbutton and bianca donovan to perth.
all confirmed any other rumours.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:59 24 Nov 15

Reply #566290

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is Bianca Donovan confirmed at Perth?


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jojo
Two years ago
12:04 24 Nov 15

Reply #566291

re: 2016 WA SBL

ASk her im sure shes confirmed


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hj
Two years ago
12:09 24 Nov 15

Reply #566295

re: 2016 WA SBL

yep shes signed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 24 Nov 15

Reply #566296

re: 2016 WA SBL

How hot is she? Tbh


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Hogwash
Two years ago
12:21 24 Nov 15

Reply #566297

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mathiang Muo is actually an Australian citizen, which is more than I can say for half the Redbacks dudes.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:16 24 Nov 15

Reply #566302

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bianca Donovan can't leave the Slammers!!!!! Only reason many young men went and watched the women


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meggsie
Two years ago
16:32 24 Nov 15

Reply #566350

re: 2016 WA SBL

priyini going back to wa to play for willeton tigers? ashlee Sidebottom moving to rockingham from her club


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 24 Nov 15

Reply #566351

re: 2016 WA SBL

Seva Chan to Lakeside, Jacob LeJacob to Willetton to replace Easley


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:53 24 Nov 15

Reply #566357

re: 2016 WA SBL

What the hell is a Jacob LeJacob???


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:42 24 Nov 15

Reply #566375

re: 2016 WA SBL

How is Nic Cody going to play AFL when he is built like a 10 yr olds p3ni5?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:16 24 Nov 15

Reply #566412

re: 2016 WA SBL

Seva join Lakeside is a good news for Lightining.They need PG.
But retired Prue and Jackson are big hole.
Can't make top 8


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:54 25 Nov 15

Reply #566417

re: 2016 WA SBL

Eastern Suns appoint Michael Clarke as MSBL Head Coach


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AJ is god
Two years ago
04:05 25 Nov 15

Reply #566427

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey guys, just wondering if anyone knows where my boy Adrian Majstrovich will be playing this year? Thanks guys


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Anon
Two years ago
12:17 25 Nov 15

Reply #566458

re: 2016 WA SBL

NZ! ^^^ and if he was your boy you would of known that already ;)


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Hogwash 77
Two years ago
13:12 25 Nov 15

Reply #566467

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bianca Donovan lives in Perth so no. Iggie that she's playing for the Redbacks. And yeah, she's a looker


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really
Two years ago
14:05 25 Nov 15

Reply #566477

re: 2016 WA SBL

Great to see Michael Clarke appointed coach at Suns. I'm sure he has a lot of valuable experience to bring back from VCU.
Although I'm not entirely sure the coach has been the problem up the hill over the last 5-10 years. There has definitely been some different coaching approaches with McCormick/Kuhn/Triscari, but there seems to be a deeper issue that is at play there.

There has been quite a few 'rookie' coaches over the last couple of seasons which is great. Giants, Cougars (Parsons had 1 season previous I think), Lakeside, Magic, and East Perth (Jo Alan for part of season) all went with rookie head coaches over the past 2 seasons. Now Buccs, Lakeside (again), Slammers and Suns will hand over control to rookie head coaches.

That really only leave Tigers, Flames, Stirling, Redbacks (everyones favourite), Hawks, and Wolves with longer term coaches.

It will be great to see new strategies and game plans (as much as there is 'new' in basketball now)

Back to Clarke, lets hope he brings the Havoc style to the SBL...


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Anon
Two years ago
14:22 25 Nov 15

Reply #566481

re: 2016 WA SBL

Would be awesome to see some VCU press in Australia let alone SBL, Australian basketball minds need to open up, a bit to stagnant


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really
Two years ago
15:09 25 Nov 15

Reply #566501

re: 2016 WA SBL

SBL a great place for that style of defense as we don't tend to have the bigger 7 foot type players that aren't mobile and don't suit this style.

The only other concern is how the game is called by the refs. Not sure on the PoE this year but in the last couple they had been calling every slight bit of contact on the ball carrier in the full court (although let a ton of contact go in the half court). If there is a direction to call the game the same way then it might be difficult to implement the VCU press.


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Anon
Two years ago
16:45 25 Nov 15

Reply #566525

re: 2016 WA SBL

Def agree but if the past has shown anything if you come out with this style and implement it from the tip then the refs will adjust they cant call everything or can they??


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AJ fan
Two years ago
20:07 25 Nov 15

Reply #566555

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey AJ is god, AJ fan here. He Signed with Willetton Tigers on a two year deal at the beginning of last season so we will be able to watch him again this season! He is my favourite player :)

Much of the content of here is gossip e.g playing in NZ???? Get real. Here's a tip; Don't believe anything you read here, unless it's from a fellow Adrian Majstro admirer (some times i say majstro for short).

Have a good day guys,
AJ fan


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Jar Jar Mur
Two years ago
21:35 25 Nov 15

Reply #566601

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey does anyone know when The Suns tryouts are?
I like the sound of that up tempo game as I can shake people down in transition.


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Jacob LeJacob
Two years ago
21:54 25 Nov 15

Reply #566607

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ima take the league by storm


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:09 25 Nov 15

Reply #566610

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looks like the 16 year olds who couldn't make a WABL team are back. Welcome one hand typists.


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Nebs Franich
Two years ago
22:36 25 Nov 15

Reply #566618

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looking for a team this upcoming season.

I am tall, skinny, white and have a huge chin.

With all those bad points above, I still think I am a cool guy.

Give me a chance. I talk a lot of trash, can't fight tho.


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Hogwash 77
Two years ago
16:48 26 Nov 15

Reply #566724

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any news on Slammers 2nd import signing?


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Hogwash
Two years ago
19:30 26 Nov 15

Reply #566769

re: 2016 WA SBL

From RadioWest FB page...

Mike Haney confirmed as Giants coach for 2016.
Jay Bowie heading to Willetton.


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
20:45 26 Nov 15

Reply #566796

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://www.radiowest.com.au/goldfields/sport/other-sports/news/2015/11/hayney-continues-as-giants-coach-in-2016/


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Hogwash 77
Two years ago
20:50 26 Nov 15

Reply #566798

re: 2016 WA SBL

Offered him the world


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CADI
Two years ago
01:54 27 Nov 15

Reply #566865

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley -> Bowie is an upgrade for sure.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:46 27 Nov 15

Reply #566889

re: 2016 WA SBL

Never seen an import be so good cause he was very good no doubt about that but act so soft in my life and literally make a noise every time he goes in to the lane. UGGGGHHHH as loud as possible.

He should fit in perfectly at willo.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:47 27 Nov 15

Reply #566890

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haney will be good for them again this year. He has good connections and will find someone to suit the roster again.


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interested
Two years ago
12:50 27 Nov 15

Reply #566926

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is it Easley that he will replace or Ephrem Davis?

Bowie's 25ppg will likely be much less as he would share the ball with Armour, Scott, and I assume another import.

A starting lineup of Armour/Scott/Bowie/Cody/Davis

looks pretty good.

What is the bench looking like if Hayden and Burston play footy that leaves Mitch Clarke and Andrew Black as the only ones that played decent minutes.


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Hogwash 77
Two years ago
13:13 27 Nov 15

Reply #566931

re: 2016 WA SBL

I would assume it will be to replace Easley as he is the one rumoured to be leaving Willo.

Slammers won't sign a 2nd import, one season of being alright is enough for hem


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:25 27 Nov 15

Reply #566937

re: 2016 WA SBL

Didn't someone say earlier that Mitch Clarke has joined his dad up in Stirling.


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Anon
Two years ago
13:33 27 Nov 15

Reply #566939

re: 2016 WA SBL

This will be an interesting team with armour/scott/bowie/cody/import then clarke, black, easley (naturalised), casey off the bench


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:37 27 Nov 15

Reply #566941

re: 2016 WA SBL

Casey hahahahahahahahaha, biggest tard in the sbl


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Dribble
Two years ago
14:08 27 Nov 15

Reply #566945

re: 2016 WA SBL

Magic to play all their home games in Rocko due to upgrading at the MARC.

Also means the Flames will have 14 home games compared to 13 for everyone else.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:12 27 Nov 15

Reply #566946

re: 2016 WA SBL

Clarke to stirling confirmed
Easley to rockingham confirmed
Cody to football confirmed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:49 27 Nov 15

Reply #566955

re: 2016 WA SBL

Magic better to use Waroona rec which held Wildcats game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:18 27 Nov 15

Reply #566959

re: 2016 WA SBL

Waroona is actually better than some of the stadiums around the place. Stirling will jump up to one of best (venues) this season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:32 27 Nov 15

Reply #566960

re: 2016 WA SBL

Willo team doesn't look any better than last years - just cheaper. Won't contend with the lot stated above.

Tip - Black to play 47 min 50 sec per game and the offense to get him 40 shots pg.


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Reply #566961

re: 2016 WA SBL

No permanent Shot Clocks @ Waroona meant SBL wouldn't take risk of not using a 'SBL Ready' stadium. Look for some exciting 'initiatives' to be announced when fixtures are released too between us (Flames) and the Magic if BWA go ahead as discussed with some ideas which both clubs raised at recent meetings.

Mandurah will also play all of their WABL 'Home' games @ Mike Barnett also during the MARC Redevelopment.

Will be good for the League in three years time to have new venues in Stirling, Mandurah & Joondalup (Arena Redevelopment) with Willetton pushing for Stadium extension too - would be interesting if they make one of the proposed new courts their new showcourt too.


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
15:41 27 Nov 15

Reply #566962

re: 2016 WA SBL

Clarke to Stirling is NOT confirmed

He is training at Tigerland...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:42 27 Nov 15

Reply #566963

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley is not confirmed at Rocko


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:58 27 Nov 15

Reply #566964

re: 2016 WA SBL

Surely the willo books will be checked and under the table dealings looked at by the ever so strict SBL correct? Bowie is not leaving Kalgoorlie for a smaller amount and then add another import, armour, damo and some others will be wanting money plus the coach.

What is the SBL salary cap?
Do they ever check any of this?


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Adrian M is good bballer
Two years ago
16:45 27 Nov 15

Reply #566968

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah and even though he is very good add Adrian Majstro (sorry AJ is god, i like the ring to Majstro hope you done mind me using it hehe) to the list of people they have to pay. Willetton is very dodgy but Adrian is very good also.


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Adrian M is good bballer
Two years ago
16:52 27 Nov 15

Reply #566969

re: 2016 WA SBL

Josh Garlepp to lakeside? BIG TIME


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:57 27 Nov 15

Reply #566970

re: 2016 WA SBL

MC is that you???


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
16:59 27 Nov 15

Reply #566971

re: 2016 WA SBL

I doubt if the SBL would have the resources to investigate "illegal" payments to players. What authority would you require to check a players bank statements and what resources would you need to find out if a player is being paid a cash supplement. Not the SBL's fault - blame the 5000 paying spectators who don't show up each week. SBL/BWA can't take any more money out of juniors (clubs)to fund a semi pro league. The cart and horse are in play here.
In most cases, in my opinion, the salary cap is determined by individual clubs credibility/honesty and available finance.
It is no coincidence that the metro clubs with the biggest junior comps seem to get the best imports and a lot of good local players - not always there own grown juniors.
A case for some sort of equalization is a good discussion point. This may stop some clubs free spending of their money derived from the juniors who don't really get the opportunities they pay for.


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Anon
Two years ago
18:54 27 Nov 15

Reply #566991

re: 2016 WA SBL

boo hoo ^^^ anyways back to the terrible rumours go


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rinse
Two years ago
01:46 28 Nov 15

Reply #567086

re: 2016 WA SBL

Anonymouse, very valid points. At the end of the day, Willetton run even out of their SBL program. No loss, no profit.


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Really
Two years ago
07:40 28 Nov 15

Reply #567105

re: 2016 WA SBL

No club is breaking even in their sbl program unless they have secured multiple sponsorship deals.

The league salary cap is $60k. If u have two imports on a sporting visa and you are paying a couple of Australian players then you are getting close to or over the $60k.
Imports alone are minimum $500 per week (plus car, accom etc) So assuming they are here 4 weeks before the season and you budget to make it through the playoffs it is approx 28 weeks. This is $28k.

Then it is the debate on whether the costs of visa ($1500), flights ($2k), accom ($200/week), car etc are in the salary cap or not. Also if u can get accom and car sponsored.

These 'extras' for two imports can easily add up to $25k.

This is then approx $50k for imports. Add two Aussies at $200/game each ($5600)
And the salary cap is gone without even talking about a coach payment or money for other players...
That is why there are imports on working holiday visa, and player payments outside of the contracts.
So once again no team is covering these costs with door takings and bar sales.


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koberulz
Two years ago
12:54 28 Nov 15

Reply #567139

re: 2016 WA SBL

Are coaches supposed to be included in the salary cap?


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:18 28 Nov 15

Reply #567143

re: 2016 WA SBL

I'd suggest if anyone wants to know how the SBL Salary Cap works, then go and download the SBL Bylaws...

>> www.sbl.asn.au
>> Select "About SBL" from the main menu
>> Click on "Downloads"
>> Open the SBL Bylaws PDF
>> Go to Bylaw 1.9

In summary, what is included under the Salary Cap is $$$ received from ONLY playing, coaching or training with your direct SBL team. And that is NETT (after tax).

What does not get included under the salary cap include:
- Accommodation.
- Flights etc.
- Visas, clearances, BA fees.
- Health cover.
- Income tax paid.
- Any payments from activities not related to playing, coaching or training with your SBL team.

The last point is important as it allows clubs to allocate a proportion of a players wage to activities that are not included in the Salary Cap.

For example, let's say an import earns a wage of AU$1000/week (before tax) from a club. The club could then break that down as follows...

$300 - Income Tax
$350 - WABL Coaching/Association Admin
$350 - Playing/training for the SBL team

Only the $350 for playing/training for the SBL team in therefore included in the Salary Cap.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:20 28 Nov 15

Reply #567144

re: 2016 WA SBL

Koberulz, yes, any official monies paid to a coach by his SBL team should be included in the Salary Cap. The Bylaws explain this.


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
13:43 28 Nov 15

Reply #567147

re: 2016 WA SBL

Whilst our SBL will never be an AFL or NBA they should look at ways of ensuring all clubs have equal opportunity to attract and or retain top players and to also ensure some equality in the competition. Perennial cellar dwelling clubs may eventually disappear without some hope of on court success as some AFL clubs have. Unlike the AFL, we need all SBL clubs to be bringing juniors through.
Thanks to Lukosius for the info on salary caps. This makes it quite obvious why the metro clubs with big junior comps can afford to have good imports and recruit locals from other less financial clubs.


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Interested Observer
Two years ago
15:47 28 Nov 15

Reply #567163

re: 2016 WA SBL

Garlepp taking on coaching role with Mandurah for good good coin

Easily to joonadlup on max contract

chan to hawks

cody to puss


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:51 28 Nov 15

Reply #567164

re: 2016 WA SBL

Seriously BWA if you are reading this,

Give a bye to every team just split the byes up so that half get a bye on the easter long weekend and the other half get a bye on the ANZAC long weekend.

That way the buttholes that hate messing with tradition still get their shitty roster and the players actually get a break to chill for a bit.

DO SOMETHING FOR FUCKS SAKE MY GOD


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:02 28 Nov 15

Reply #567165

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley will be at the Slammers, Willetton, Mandurah, Perth or Stirling, not to the Wolves bud


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:05 28 Nov 15

Reply #567166

re: 2016 WA SBL

Garlepp is probably the stupidest player in the league, suits a stupid club I suppose


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:32 28 Nov 15

Reply #567177

re: 2016 WA SBL

Spineless morons into character assassination again. Grow some balls you weak prick.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:30 28 Nov 15

Reply #567184

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lol ok anonymous


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Clive Nicholls
Two years ago
21:12 28 Nov 15

Reply #567231

re: 2016 WA SBL

Julian Pesava to Syria to counter ISIS


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
21:42 28 Nov 15

Reply #567232

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^^Must be true Clive is a reputable source and so am I


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:52 28 Nov 15

Reply #567233

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well said...anonymous


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:35 28 Nov 15

Reply #567242

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mark my words the 2016 SBL Champions will be the a Willetton Tigers


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
00:15 29 Nov 15

Reply #567247

re: 2016 WA SBL

"Mark my words the 2016 SBL Champions will be the a Willetton Tigers"

Totally agree - GREAT Club, GREAT Coach, GREAT recruiting!

It's what ALL other Club's aspire to...


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
00:48 29 Nov 15

Reply #567248

re: 2016 WA SBL

To elaborate further on my point regarding GREAT recruiting... Adrian Majstrovich, what an absolute star!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:26 29 Nov 15

Reply #567251

re: 2016 WA SBL

Armour, Scott, Bowie dayum there's only one ball, nice guard trio though


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Phil Jackson's Ring
Two years ago
15:28 29 Nov 15

Reply #567295

re: 2016 WA SBL

I agree with myself entirely...


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Nebs Franich
Two years ago
13:57 30 Nov 15

Reply #567486

re: 2016 WA SBL

This topic was resulted in ISIS jokes now?

Are you a Reclaim Australia idiot?

Weak prick.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:31 30 Nov 15

Reply #567499

re: 2016 WA SBL

Still can't believe Tony Ronaldson is an assistant coach at the Church hahahahaha


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Clive Dicholls
Two years ago
15:25 30 Nov 15

Reply #567516

re: 2016 WA SBL

Fight me Nebola


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:44 30 Nov 15

Reply #567621

re: 2016 WA SBL

WSBL Perth Redbacks,

Have seen Bianca Donavon, Ash Gilmore, Bec Mercer and Lisa Wallburton at practice.

Have kept Hayward and Jjay also.

Talks of Aj Jones also to Perth and O sullivan Returning

Could the WSBL Redbecks actually be better than the Men?


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koberulz
Two years ago
22:11 30 Nov 15

Reply #567626

re: 2016 WA SBL

What about Clayton?

Jjay
Surely the A and the Y are entirely unnecessary?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:28 30 Nov 15

Reply #567634

re: 2016 WA SBL

have not seen G clayton

assuming she is still with Turner in Japan. Not sure when that league finishes as to when/if she'd be back


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:45 30 Nov 15

Reply #567635

re: 2016 WA SBL

Perth Redbacks women look like big improves next year


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Greeny
Two years ago
23:02 30 Nov 15

Reply #567636

re: 2016 WA SBL

Edmondson to Hawks


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anonymous
Two years ago
23:09 30 Nov 15

Reply #567638

re: 2016 WA SBL

Clayton back in april.
heard their talking to pirini as well.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:35 30 Nov 15

Reply #567640

re: 2016 WA SBL

will there be space for clayton?

pirini would be a big pickup. does Someone in that team have close ties with her? She's a big willo girl I hear


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anonymous
Two years ago
23:44 30 Nov 15

Reply #567641

re: 2016 WA SBL

12 spots on the roster, plenty of room.


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Greeny
Two years ago
00:29 1 Dec 15

Reply #567645

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pirini is a Willo girl but if she wants court time she'll have to play for another club.


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CADI
Two years ago
10:52 1 Dec 15

Reply #567693

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pirini definitely moving back, Senators and Tigers front runners


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hj
Two years ago
11:08 1 Dec 15

Reply #567700

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pirini played with wallbutton at Willo, but is close freinds with jj at perth as well.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:47 1 Dec 15

Reply #567706

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley is going east to play SEABL for Ballarat


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:41 1 Dec 15

Reply #567717

re: 2016 WA SBL

I also heard on the w-end that priyini may have changed her mind and is going to play seabl somewhere in melb, also bennie lewis is coming home to play in melboune. that would be a huge blow to the Geraldton if rumour is true.


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Anon
Two years ago
12:43 1 Dec 15

Reply #567720

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bennie Lewis def going to melbourne to play in SEABL possibly Frankston or a number of other clubs.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:14 1 Dec 15

Reply #567729

re: 2016 WA SBL

Some early predictions...

WILL BE BETTER IN 2016:
Cougars - some old players returning will make them better and deeper.

Tigers - Bowie in for Easley will make them better, along with being together for a second year under Black.

Redbacks - probably the big under achievers of 2015. Surely they will be better in 2016.

Senators - my pick for the biggest improvers in 2016. New coach and probably the best group up-and-coming youngsters in the SBL.

WILL STAY ABOUT THE SAME:
Wolves - defending champions who will be right up there again.

Flames - old team getting older, but a couple of new additions to offset that.

Giants - my team so I'm fence-sitting at this stage.

Hawks - probably overachieved in 2015. Can't see them any better in 2016.

Lightning - losing Prue and Jackson is massive. New coaching staff and a couple of recruits will offset to some extent.

Eagles - I think their slide has ended, but will need to big name pickups (Wildcats?) to get better.

WILL BE WORSE IN 2016:
Buccs - probably losing Lewis. Any team losing a 30ppg Aussie is going to be weaker.

Slammers - similar to Buccs. Harrelson (as an Aussie) is a big loss. That's assuming he doesn't come back.

Magic - slid right away towards the end of 2015 and that trend will continue into 2016.

Eastern Suns - if rumours are accurate, they are looking at some key losses. Coach has already jumped ship.


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
13:23 1 Dec 15

Reply #567734

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well Lucosius, you have just started a thousand tongues wagging furiously in the South West.
Nice post though, thanks.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:53 1 Dec 15

Reply #567745

re: 2016 WA SBL

IS TY A POSSIBILITY IF COMING BACK???!!!!!! lol no hahaha Slammers will slide in 2016


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Huh
Two years ago
15:21 1 Dec 15

Reply #567763

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bennie Lewis returning to the Geraldton is entirely up to them. If they want him back I'm sure he will remain.


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Anon
Two years ago
15:43 1 Dec 15

Reply #567768

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yes. Pirini close friends with Jakens at Perth. Assuming she could have a large pull. Heard she is staying east however. Probably better for her.


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Nebs Franich
Two years ago
15:45 1 Dec 15

Reply #567769

re: 2016 WA SBL

I can't fight but will gladly write up a report for you?


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cha ching
Two years ago
16:21 1 Dec 15

Reply #567774

re: 2016 WA SBL

All comes down to the money and whos got the most to spend


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:07 1 Dec 15

Reply #567810

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easily to Wanneroo

Garlepp taking coaching role, but only getting petrol money

Peseva actually studies counter terror so wouldnt surprise me if he went to syria to slam dunk isis

Nebo to cakeside


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:06 1 Dec 15

Reply #567822

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lol Easley isn't going to Wanneroo


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rinse
Two years ago
01:23 2 Dec 15

Reply #567839

re: 2016 WA SBL

Joondalup- largely unchanged. Davis will returning pending some personal issues he's currently working through
Kalamunda - Jarrad Prior signing with the Suns
Lakeside will sign Daniel Alexander from Grand Canyon University and previously Texas A&M. 6'9 Forward, looks pretty beastly, ranked 94 in ESPNs100 for his year.
Perry Lakes looking at a homegrown NBL player.
Perth targeting Rob Cassir
Willetton- Cody returning despite ludicrous claims of moving to AFL Nick Clarke returning and will replace Burston.


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
01:37 2 Dec 15

Reply #567840

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rinse saving this thread from being complete shit


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #567841

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nic made the top 100 on the fox8 show the recruit so...


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Chef
Two years ago
10:11 2 Dec 15

Reply #567865

re: 2016 WA SBL

And when he gets cut do you really think he's going to take a whole year off a game he's played for his whole life? Burston, Noordhoek and Cody all went on the recruit but they won't win it, especially Nic with his history of injury...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:55 2 Dec 15

Reply #567873

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nic Cody isn't moving to AFL, he is contemplating going for trips around Europe and travel for a year.


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ajrien marstrofish
Two years ago
11:04 2 Dec 15

Reply #567874

re: 2016 WA SBL

I know from a good good source that cody makes it close to the end if not all the way...

WAFL teams have been targeting him offering very decent money insteady of chicken nuggets and a can of coke.

Perry lakes just signed jesse wagstaff but he most likely come off bench for locals

In a coop, Joondalup sign big baby davis to replce current davis


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:37 2 Dec 15

Reply #567879

re: 2016 WA SBL

If this is Matt Burston last NBL year any chance he may return for a stint at PL?


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Anon
Two years ago
12:44 2 Dec 15

Reply #567895

re: 2016 WA SBL

Its gotta be Garlepp Tommy boy


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tom garlepp
Two years ago
14:47 2 Dec 15

Reply #567929

re: 2016 WA SBL

PL4LYFE


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:26 3 Dec 15

Reply #568138

re: 2016 WA SBL

rinse whose your source for this Daniel Alexander guy? Admittedly he does fit the Lakeside import mould.

Tall skinny white guy. Loves god


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Anonymous
Two years ago
05:31 3 Dec 15

Reply #568144

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lakeside are trying to sign Alexander and another 6"10 big guy. Confident they have enough guards with Chan??


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Anon
Two years ago
13:10 3 Dec 15

Reply #568245

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rocko- top 8 barely if they keep core may be big losers
Stirling- big movers top 8 side
Kalamunda- door mats need a year or two to recruit
P.l- Takes a step back over achieved
E.P- Struggles a bit misses out young team will beat teams there not supposed to
Redbacks- Big ? who stays who goes who do they pick up
Willo- Lost depth but added more scoring def top 8
Cockburn- great year recruiting if rumours are true put them back in finals easily
Lakeside- If they get two bigs that can hoop that will change the dynamic play more of an american style should be interesting on the border.
Magic- too many losses no money miss out
Gero- All depends on recruiting should make 8
Kal- Loss of Muo to east coast confirmed will make it difficult for Kal to make 8.
Bunbury- Lots of rumour of recruiting but I think they will do enough to make the 8
Wolves- Defending champs enough said

Obviously this is all just a guess but Redbacks Lakeside Rocko gero to fight it out for 6,7,8


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:13 3 Dec 15

Reply #568247

re: 2016 WA SBL

What rumours of Bunbury recruiting are there, I've heard Easley, what else.??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:00 3 Dec 15

Reply #568289

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any truth with Lewis not returning?

I heard he had a verbal guarantee with Buccs but ofcourse that really means nothing.

The fringe NBL players/or NBL quality who are unrestricted are Gold in the SBL.
Im talking legit players who can impact games not the DP players.
Eg.......
Buccs - Lewis
Giants - Muo
Cougars - Field
Slammers - 2 x naturalised Aussies

All contenders this year.




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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:08 3 Dec 15

Reply #568294

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who do the Slammers have as naturalised Aussies, Ty is gone and Clive is likely out for the season with the ACL tear


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:23 3 Dec 15

Reply #568324

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lewis signed with frankston

Kalgoorlie don't sign Muo and lost him over east also not sure where, also lost Bowie. Signed Haney as Coach.

Bunbury have signed Nicholls not sure on others yet

Jay Bowie signed at willo, chasing Eric Millam and Stephen Black signed on as assistant coach.

Redbacks sign Nic Lackovic to an extension, no Turner returning unless cause he picked up a mrs whilst in WA. SURPRISE SURPRISE!!!

Cockburn signed Brandon McGill not sure on second import yet.

Gero signed Traihair and not sure on imports yet but as always will get two quality ones.



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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:03 3 Dec 15

Reply #568350

re: 2016 WA SBL

With Ray Turner currently playing in the BJ league (Japan) depending on how deep they go into finals he would not be avl to the SBL to early-late May which no doubt Redbacks cant wait that long!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:25 3 Dec 15

Reply #568359

re: 2016 WA SBL

Willo - the new Black?


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hi
Two years ago
16:27 3 Dec 15

Reply #568362

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ray turner wont be playing in wa.
Him and his mrs will be a package deal in Qbl next season.


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Anon
Two years ago
16:28 3 Dec 15

Reply #568363

re: 2016 WA SBL

Muo is with Spartans in Brissy which makes sense if he wants to get back in the NBL. Bunbury has Tre Nichols and I am guessing another import Clive will be back ACL recovery doesnt take 12 months its not 1994. He should be up running around maybe not to full capacity but playing minutes by March easy. Plus a naturalised or NBL caliber player gives them 4 guys again. Also heard big Ben Smith maybe headed down to the SW. Lewis last I heard was going to Frankston however some other teams interested as well.


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Anon
Two years ago
16:30 3 Dec 15

Reply #568366

re: 2016 WA SBL

Turner needs to go to SEABL should be in NBL


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Willetton Fan
Two years ago
17:40 3 Dec 15

Reply #568378

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nic Cody has been M.I.A at Willetton practices for the last 3 weeks, has signed and moved across to the SEABL as he prefers the "indie" lifestyle over east. Hayden Noordhoek also hasn't been cited at practices but has been seen at Jetts just off of canning highway quite regularly.


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rinse
Two years ago
17:41 3 Dec 15

Reply #568380

re: 2016 WA SBL

Seva Chan confirmed at Lakeside
Along with Dan Alexander...
TJ Hallice will be the second Lakeside import
6'9 forward from Mercer College
Played D League with Idaho Stampede

In less exciting news, Travis McIlroy to Suns with Prior


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:48 3 Dec 15

Reply #568383

re: 2016 WA SBL

Why would JP go to suns??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:23 3 Dec 15

Reply #568389

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers are rumoured but have done nothing so far other than re-sign Nichols, losing Ty, Voelkel and potentially Weeden for next season would leave a massive hole. Need to sign Easley or Ben Smith,add a quality guard and a star import to look like a top 4 team, looking like sliders to me so far (very very very very early days)


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Black Betty
Two years ago
19:53 3 Dec 15

Reply #568410

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley spied at Willo practice this week so doubt he is on the move anywhere...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:03 3 Dec 15

Reply #568416

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lol Hahahahaha spied


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:33 3 Dec 15

Reply #568485

re: 2016 WA SBL

Big Ben Smith still training and scrimmaging at Mandurah


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:59 3 Dec 15

Reply #568489

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not a lot going on yet, cant be too long before clubs signing their imports to get them here b4 preseason tournament. Giants, Slammers will struggle without that 3rd quality player.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:01 4 Dec 15

Reply #568499

re: 2016 WA SBL

Slammers, Giants, and Gero need those 3rd "import" types because their local talent isn't as productive


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rinse
Two years ago
01:08 4 Dec 15

Reply #568500

re: 2016 WA SBL

This is what I've got so far..

Cockburn - Brandon McGill, ?
East Perth - ?,?
Geraldton - Carter Cook, Corey Cooperwood
Goldfields - Jacob Holmen, ?
Joondalup - Kevin Davis, ?
Kalamunda - ?,?
Lakeside - Dan Alexander, TJ Hallice
Mandurah - Taylor Mullenax, ?
Perry Lakes - Bryton Hobbs, Wagstaff or Jervis
Perth - ?, ?
Rockingham - Cooper Land, Taylor Land
Stirling - ?,?
South West - ?,?
Willetton - Jay Bowie,?


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Adrian Money Majstro Fan
Two years ago
01:13 4 Dec 15

Reply #568501

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hi Willetton Fan, Adrian Money Majstro Fan here.

At which particular Jetts health club has Noordhoek been spotted? I have grown quite fond of that good looking boy's remarkably large biceps. He must do well with the ladies if you know what I'm getting at. He is hot, great rig.

I eagerly await your response!

Also Brian Conklin spotted at Buccs training along with Jacob LeJacob.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
01:55 4 Dec 15

Reply #568502

re: 2016 WA SBL

SLAMMERS TO SIGN CONKLIN!!!!!! WOULD BE HELLA MAD BRUZ AND WOULD WORK GREAT WITH A SCORE FIRST POINT GUARD WITH DREADS!!!!!!! This one is in shape though


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anonymous
Two years ago
10:37 4 Dec 15

Reply #568542

re: 2016 WA SBL

saw ajay jones at redbacks training last night


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:01 4 Dec 15

Reply #568554

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nordeks biceps all buttered up.............mmmmm


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lel
Two years ago
11:28 4 Dec 15

Reply #568572

re: 2016 WA SBL

I don't think Willetton would be on the market for Najee when they have Armour. And A black.willetton has struggled over the last 3 years getting a legitimate big like a Ray Turner, Mullenax or Voelkel. 20/10 guys


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Anon
Two years ago
12:39 4 Dec 15

Reply #568592

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hard to have a 20/10 guy when you have armour damo and kal import on your team good luck not enough basketballs


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anonymous
Two years ago
13:29 4 Dec 15

Reply #568610

re: 2016 WA SBL

jones signed with perth woman.


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Anon
Two years ago
15:43 4 Dec 15

Reply #568670

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://www.sbl.asn.au/ new rule apparently


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:47 4 Dec 15

Reply #568706

re: 2016 WA SBL

Buccs sign Dexter Kernich-Drew of Washington State University, born in Melbourne. SO still have room for an american.


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lukosius
Two years ago
17:03 4 Dec 15

Reply #568715

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thats huge

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/player/_/id/51421/dexter-kernich-drew

Even if hes the sixth man will be handy especially in a country town.


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Willetton Fan
Two years ago
17:11 4 Dec 15

Reply #568718

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hayden lifts at the Jetts just next to the raffles, have spotted him and Burston lifting there followed by running the bridges together. Massive loss for the tigers road trips losing those 2, the stories coming out of the camp have been noted as legendary.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:26 4 Dec 15

Reply #568722

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lukosius,

So what all does this mean?

So every wildcat player (bar the 2 imports can play SBL all for the one team?

Stupid rule.

Who has the most money wins!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:26 4 Dec 15

Reply #568723

re: 2016 WA SBL

Stuff the Buccs


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koberulz
Two years ago
17:35 4 Dec 15

Reply #568725

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lukosius,

So what all does this mean?

So every wildcat player (bar the 2 imports can play SBL all for the one team?

Stupid rule.
That is almost the exact opposite of what that article said.


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Moot
Two years ago
18:03 4 Dec 15

Reply #568738

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haha buccs haven't signed anyone, good read but.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 4 Dec 15

Reply #568740

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis to Willo


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:06 4 Dec 15

Reply #568742

re: 2016 WA SBL

Irrelevant what all the other teams do because

WOLFPACK


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Anon
Two years ago
18:06 4 Dec 15

Reply #568743

re: 2016 WA SBL

NBL player rules stay the same the only thing that the rule changes is that Permanent Residents can play as aussies which makes sense.


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Anon
Two years ago
18:07 4 Dec 15

Reply #568744

re: 2016 WA SBL

Will Jervis Mrs. let him play without getting 30k a year lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:07 4 Dec 15

Reply #568745

re: 2016 WA SBL

what is the jervis mrs. money story tell us


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Anon
Two years ago
18:12 4 Dec 15

Reply #568747

re: 2016 WA SBL

lol I shouldn't


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:15 4 Dec 15

Reply #568748

re: 2016 WA SBL

come on hehehe


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:44 4 Dec 15

Reply #568755

re: 2016 WA SBL

NBL player rules stay the same the only thing that the rule changes is that Permanent Residents can play as aussies which makes sense.
Pretty sure the NBL doesn't have a rule that restricts a team to no more than two players who play 25% of available NBL minutes. :p


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:46 4 Dec 15

Reply #568760

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tell us Anon

Is Kevin Davis confirmed back at the pack?


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Willetton Fan
Two years ago
18:55 4 Dec 15

Reply #568764

re: 2016 WA SBL

Can confirm that Nic Cody hasn't been responding to friends and teammates text messages as he's taken time off where he's been spending it on a secluded farm. This is all part of the decision making process as he decides which SEABL club to align himself with. WILL NOT be in the SBL next season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:02 4 Dec 15

Reply #568768

re: 2016 WA SBL

fail. secluded beach would be way better


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Nic Cody
Two years ago
02:07 5 Dec 15

Reply #568987

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey can you guys shut up, also I approve of every adrian majstrovich post In this thread


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Abraham Marstrobitch
Two years ago
02:21 5 Dec 15

Reply #568989

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey Willetton Fan, Abraham Marstrobitch here.

I would just like to thank you for the intel. I have just got back from signing myself up to a membership at Jetts Applecross. I hope to spot Hayden Noordhoek and his remarkably large biceps in the near future. Hes hot, great rig.

Shame about Burston and Noordhoek as well as their "ladsy" qualities leaving the Tigers. Tell me, is it true that Hayden once did a backflip and then punched a kangaroo on Burrendah Boulevarde in Willetton? Surely not.

Anyway I must head off to the gym :)

Cheers, Abraham Marstrobitch


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:57 5 Dec 15

Reply #568992

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ajay Jones confirmed WSBL Perth Redbacks


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Willetton Fan
Two years ago
11:39 5 Dec 15

Reply #569056

re: 2016 WA SBL

Can confirm that the kangaroo story is completely true, one of the finest tales in Willetton folklore. Word is Burston provided a really ladsy story on the Kalgoorlie road trip this season, I for one would love to hear it.


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ruddiger
Two years ago
12:11 5 Dec 15

Reply #569065

re: 2016 WA SBL

The 155 is real..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:53 5 Dec 15

Reply #569079

re: 2016 WA SBL

This thread is crazy, Willetton is all the talk right about now


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Willetton Fan
Two years ago
13:38 5 Dec 15

Reply #569092

re: 2016 WA SBL

The ladsy banter out of Willetton is the cause of this, any other clubs have quality stories of there players?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:32 5 Dec 15

Reply #569102

re: 2016 WA SBL

Corey Easley is all but guaranteed to sign in the SEABL


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:01 5 Dec 15

Reply #569111

re: 2016 WA SBL

Does damien scott mack as many bitches as people say?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:02 5 Dec 15

Reply #569112

re: 2016 WA SBL

What lifting routine does mitch clarke do to look so much like a bar fridge?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:03 5 Dec 15

Reply #569113

re: 2016 WA SBL

Why does kyle armour know every single person in western australia?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:53 5 Dec 15

Reply #569118

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haha I think he does, knows me for starters, hahahaha remember when Joey Wright was shoving Damo Scott and he was crapping himself not knowing what to do


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Fake Burston
Two years ago
17:19 5 Dec 15

Reply #569138

re: 2016 WA SBL

na no one remembers that

====== BREAKING NEWS =======

Nordek has been spotted lifting heaps of weights and crushing puss.

D scott has a great piece.

Nick Cody has signed with Perry Lakes, was spotted cheersing beers to celebrate somewhere in the south west.

I can confirm that Easily is headed to cockburn with very good coin.


Della Madella to sign with Joondalup in a coop
=====================================================


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:34 5 Dec 15

Reply #569141

re: 2016 WA SBL

Corey Easley will not be playing at Cockburn next year


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Fake Burston
Two years ago
19:10 5 Dec 15

Reply #569157

re: 2016 WA SBL

Whats ur sauce because mine came from a horses mouth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:30 5 Dec 15

Reply #569163

re: 2016 WA SBL

I've spoken to big easy personally


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ruddiger
Two years ago
22:41 5 Dec 15

Reply #569200

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley signed a 2 yr contract with the Tigers. Will be returning next yr. his kids even have mini tigers uniforms. Gotta get some mileage out of it while they're young


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Harry
Two years ago
22:43 5 Dec 15

Reply #569201

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^Not sure if Easley did but I know Scott and Armor did so they'll be back for sure


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:22 6 Dec 15

Reply #569216

re: 2016 WA SBL

I've seen his kids with little tigers uniforms, but I have spoken to him and could be in the move


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Fake Burston
Two years ago
05:36 6 Dec 15

Reply #569218

re: 2016 WA SBL

nick clarke and pjhill john signed with perry lakes


from good good sauce

easily to kalamunderrrruhhhh


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:47 6 Dec 15

Reply #569248

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^^^

Time for you to get back to the TV, Playschool has just started. YFI.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:32 6 Dec 15

Reply #569261

re: 2016 WA SBL

There would be no court time for Easley at Cockburn with the guys they have in his spot. there and very good sources saying that apparently trahair has nabbed a few Rocko boys to head up with him.

Rockingham have signed the land brothers again for some weird reason. I understand the one but not the other. Surely Rocko need scorers with the loss of Godfrey and others.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:05 6 Dec 15

Reply #569304

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley definitely not at Cockburn. 100%!


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Easydoesit
Two years ago
11:16 7 Dec 15

Reply #569537

re: 2016 WA SBL

lol you guys are hilarious


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interested
Two years ago
12:13 7 Dec 15

Reply #569556

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah don't see that signing both Land brothers is the way to go for Rocko unless they have another Aussie scorer that they are adding to the roster.
Easley sure is getting a lot of attention on here. Is he the only existing SBL player that will be affected by the rule change for restricted players?
Surely Tigers will try to keep him if he is no longer classified as a restricted player.
If they had Kyle/Scott/Import/Cody/Import as starters then Easley/Clarke/Black off the bench it would be a tough team. *Sure to get the forum going with 2 x imports, Scott, Easley, and to some extent Kyle all being outside players...

News out of Redbacks is that they may not get imports this year. Can't see that happening with Lako.

Should start to see announcements of import signings soon as they really need to start this process to get them signed and ready for the season.

Giants are usually very early with their announcements, must be taking a different approach this season. They typically do a good job of scouting available players from over east, mainly queensland, so we might see a permanent resident replace Mua.


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cewper lands rattail
Two years ago
12:52 7 Dec 15

Reply #569573

re: 2016 WA SBL

easily to Perry Lakes for good good coin and 6 pack of pepsi max.

This is from a very good sauce

Land brothers coming back to perth and adding to their title as the biggest turds in the SBL both physically and metaphorically.


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Chop Shop
Two years ago
13:49 7 Dec 15

Reply #569584

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hearing Reed McConnell out of UC Irvine for Redbacks.


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interested
Two years ago
15:05 7 Dec 15

Reply #569597

re: 2016 WA SBL

I had heard no imports for Redbacks, but if this McConnell rumour is true he is a big downgrade from last year (there wouldn't be many SBL imports that could be an upgrade on Ray Turner)

Any word on whether Carter Cook is returning to Buccs?


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cewper lands rattail
Two years ago
15:55 7 Dec 15

Reply #569618

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easily to Lakeside,

Prue is rumoured to be following the sofouli brothers to Kalgoorlie for huge money.

They are expanding their business there aswell so should be interesting to see


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 7 Dec 15

Reply #569625

re: 2016 WA SBL

You are boring and uninteresting Cewper. Go back to the telly with the other children and watch Playschool.


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cewper lands rattail
Two years ago
16:56 7 Dec 15

Reply #569639

re: 2016 WA SBL

Starts at 3 we have time

Easily to waneroon


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:21 7 Dec 15

Reply #569648

re: 2016 WA SBL

McConnells old man was on the phone to everyone who would listen to him telling anyone who would listen that his son would win them a championship.

Has an imports father ever done that in the SBL, ever?

In saying that, looks and plays like a bigger, little Ben Smith...and we all know how thats working out..


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Lukosius
Two years ago
18:03 7 Dec 15

Reply #569657

re: 2016 WA SBL

A bit harsh re Reed McConnell's old man.

Yes, I do believe he contacted a lot of clubs.
Has spoken to me a couple of times and I gave him some good advice.

He really is just acting as his son's agent, and good on him for that.

However not once did he 'promise a championship' or any BS like that. Was honest in describing his son's background and his limited opportunities at CS Irvine. Was also offering to pay for his own visa and flights.

I've done a bit of research on him and viewed some video, even going back to his HS days. He would make a decent import for some teams, and would come cheap as chips.

Good luck to him.


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ruddiger
Two years ago
20:03 7 Dec 15

Reply #569678

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looks like a terrible version of QuinnMcdowell if you ask me. Quinn is king


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:24 8 Dec 15

Reply #569788

re: 2016 WA SBL

Suns announce Jarrad Prior as their first big signing


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:27 8 Dec 15

Reply #569790

re: 2016 WA SBL

look for easley to be their next announcement but probably not this week


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:08 8 Dec 15

Reply #569799

re: 2016 WA SBL

easily to cockburn, Im telling you.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:51 8 Dec 15

Reply #569810

re: 2016 WA SBL

Damian Martin is rumoured to be taking an assistant coaching role at the Perry Lakes Hawks,

It is not known if hes playing yet but his input will be substantial


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Anon
Two years ago
14:01 8 Dec 15

Reply #569813

re: 2016 WA SBL

McConnell out here for Perth.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:06 8 Dec 15

Reply #569814

re: 2016 WA SBL

For crying out loud Easley is not going to Cockburn


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:59 8 Dec 15

Reply #569822

re: 2016 WA SBL

I heard from the sauces mouth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:56 8 Dec 15

Reply #569828

re: 2016 WA SBL

Good riddance to Jake Burston at Tigers. They'll easley make semis now (pun intended)


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JakeBurston Fan page
Two years ago
16:06 8 Dec 15

Reply #569829

re: 2016 WA SBL

Except Jake Burston was the only one on that team that passed the ball lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:24 8 Dec 15

Reply #569832

re: 2016 WA SBL

When do finals start at the lakeside summer league?

Might be some nice matchups worth checking out?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:38 8 Dec 15

Reply #569838

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah well you heard wrong


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You Heard Right
Two years ago
17:23 8 Dec 15

Reply #569849

re: 2016 WA SBL

Semi Finals Tonight

Crocs v Party Flava

Crocs
Matac, Someone that ate Clint Reed, Godfrey, Cody and Field

Party Flava
Damian Scott, Thomas Lewis, Drew Williamson, Seb Salinas, Joel Wagner

Prediction
Allstar game in itself, three point percentage and Defense will be the key. Flava by 10. Both have played great all year crazy that its better to watch than SBL games.

Most Legends vs Bundy

Most Legends
Ben Purser, Ryan Smith, Josh Garlepp, Fletch Creelman

Bundy
Nebo Franich, Trian, Rob Huntington, Adam Cash, Ben Smith, Joel Qwestrell

Prediciton
Everyone on Bundy can shoot, will be tough for ML to contain. Might have the upper hand on boards, thats tough if everything is going in.
ML by 1 in triple OT

*Poor reffing to screw up one of 2 games, in true SBL fashion. Peto for SBL league CEO


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JakeBurston Fan page
Two years ago
18:03 8 Dec 15

Reply #569855

re: 2016 WA SBL

POPCHERRY AD IN THIS POST IS DISTURBING BUT I know Jake Burston likes it


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:41 8 Dec 15

Reply #569869

re: 2016 WA SBL

great right up thanks You Heard Right,

Wow thats half the league right there haha,

will be interesting to see the results.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:17 8 Dec 15

Reply #569891

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cody is a full time farmer now so crocs cant win. Josh garlepp is really good most legends will win cos he is good i heard it and got sauce on my mouth


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:55 9 Dec 15

Reply #569937

re: 2016 WA SBL

does anyone know if izzy chilcott and klara wischer are coming back home to melb, or if they are heading back to Hobart to play . or are the staying in WA to play in their comp.both quality players.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:02 9 Dec 15

Reply #569939

re: 2016 WA SBL

SUNS get J.P. from Perth. The mass exodus has begun.


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JakeBurston Fan page
Two years ago
11:30 9 Dec 15

Reply #569949

re: 2016 WA SBL

When Jake Burston left Redbacks that was the exodus #threesus


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:34 9 Dec 15

Reply #569950

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easily to Stirling
Lewis Thomas to Redbacks


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:45 9 Dec 15

Reply #569954

re: 2016 WA SBL

Buccs confirm Carter Cook to return and have signed Maurice Barrow as second import.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 9 Dec 15

Reply #569960

re: 2016 WA SBL

mconnell, thomas and easily all to redbacks


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:33 9 Dec 15

Reply #569967

re: 2016 WA SBL

Giants have signed import Kenny Manigault


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Hogwash
Two years ago
12:40 9 Dec 15

Reply #569969

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nice signing by the Giants to replace Bowie.

2015 NAIA Player of the Year and NAIA All-American.
Also led the whole NAIA in steals.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:41 9 Dec 15

Reply #569970

re: 2016 WA SBL

========================

Perry Lakes Sign Hire

=======================

Following announcement of Damian Martin Assistant coaching.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
12:43 9 Dec 15

Reply #569971

re: 2016 WA SBL

So PL now have Hobbs, Wagstaff and Hire?
Three restricted players?

Nice work.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
12:45 9 Dec 15

Reply #569972

re: 2016 WA SBL

Kal will struggle this year.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
12:55 9 Dec 15

Reply #569978

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haha, the real Lukosius would never refer to the Giants as "Kal" as it's a pet hate of mine.

We are the Goldfields Giants, always have been.

Have never been the Kalgoorlie Giants despite half of the game programs around the league referring to us as that.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
12:57 9 Dec 15

Reply #569979

re: 2016 WA SBL

Goldfield Giants will struggle


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Two years ago
12:57 9 Dec 15

Reply #569980

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who won the lakeside semis?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:59 9 Dec 15

Reply #569981

re: 2016 WA SBL

Haha. the cockhead troll still too stupid to get the name right.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:08 9 Dec 15

Reply #569985

re: 2016 WA SBL

What troll?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:13 9 Dec 15

Reply #569987

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hire may not be restricted as not playing many minutes..

As if Hire would leave wolves tho!!


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:14 9 Dec 15

Reply #569988

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thats actually a very good point. Could even go to Kalfields Largens if the coin is right.

#goodsauce


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JakeBurston Fan page
Two years ago
13:37 9 Dec 15

Reply #569991

re: 2016 WA SBL

NAIA players hmmmm good luck with that too dumb for NCAA's or not good enough.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:00 9 Dec 15

Reply #569996

re: 2016 WA SBL

There have been numerous excellent NAIA players in the SBL plenty of long term ones too. Ty Harrelson, Bryce Burch to name a couple.


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Hogwash
Two years ago
15:26 9 Dec 15

Reply #570011

re: 2016 WA SBL

Interestingly the average school grades of NAIA players is usually higher that NCAA players.

Do some research son.


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JakeBurston Fan page
Two years ago
15:27 9 Dec 15

Reply #570013

re: 2016 WA SBL

Clock is right two times a day ;) not saying they can't be good but they why did they go NAIA is the real question could be a variety of reasons. Those with legitimate excuses usually turn out fine.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:06 9 Dec 15

Reply #570023

re: 2016 WA SBL

Clearly you have no idea. As was mentioned some very good impacting players came out of the NAIA. Eligibility is as tough as NCAA. Collages still demand good grades and believe me they will realise you if you do cut the grade. By the way can we get rid of theses idiots that constantly post nonsense. People here should be given the respect of using a name and not have it hijacked by someone.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:31 9 Dec 15

Reply #570028

re: 2016 WA SBL

Its a fight back against outrageous opinions that get vomitted on here. Welcome to the internet.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:31 9 Dec 15

Reply #570035

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://youtu.be/zzzriHEpOJw

Highlights of Buccs new import Maurice Barrow


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Homer Simpson
Two years ago
17:47 9 Dec 15

Reply #570037

re: 2016 WA SBL

How can these teams afford imports? *scratches head*

Please enlighten.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:52 9 Dec 15

Reply #570039

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who knows which wsbl teams have lost players.
wannereoo mercer burns and nonila martin
perth clayton?
cockburn docky and no import this year
Slammers donovan and no imports this year
Lakeside pether
mandurah sidebottom?
Willetton wallbutton and antonio and kennedy
Suns edwards and jones
Stirling ?
flames?
magic milo?
east perth?
Anybody know of any others?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:30 9 Dec 15

Reply #570042

re: 2016 WA SBL

Homer

City clubs SBL are funded through juniors fees, fundraising (eg carnivals) and some sponsorship in most cases.

Country clubs have good spectator numbers and support from the local community.


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Homer Simpson
Two years ago
18:58 9 Dec 15

Reply #570043

re: 2016 WA SBL

Amazing... while most NBL clubs can't catch a break, arena rental fees must be the killer..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:41 9 Dec 15

Reply #570052

re: 2016 WA SBL

Most Legends W
Party Flava W

Final is on thursday at bibra lake

should be interesting


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koberulz
Two years ago
21:28 9 Dec 15

Reply #570063

re: 2016 WA SBL

Where's Ebony Antonio going?


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Greeny
Two years ago
22:49 9 Dec 15

Reply #570073

re: 2016 WA SBL

Where's Ebony Antonio going?

Suns?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:12 10 Dec 15

Reply #570095

re: 2016 WA SBL

heard she was going east to play footy


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Greeny
Two years ago
10:08 10 Dec 15

Reply #570100

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think the anonymous poster might of meant Edmondson


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Free Agency
Two years ago
11:35 10 Dec 15

Reply #570109

re: 2016 WA SBL

Man SBL free agency is fun when are teams gonna start signing guys to multi year deals


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Lukosius
Two years ago
12:01 10 Dec 15

Reply #570116

re: 2016 WA SBL

When they start paying decent sauce, if any.

Take the Kalgoorlie Big men for instince, we struggle to sign anyone long term so have to fork out a bit short term or sumpfin.


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Free Agency
Two years ago
12:25 10 Dec 15

Reply #570120

re: 2016 WA SBL

Teams should be able to get 2 year deals done that's easy FIO. Or your gonna have the movement every season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:00 10 Dec 15

Reply #570124

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lukosius, you appear to have dumbed down a lot.


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rinse
Two years ago
13:54 10 Dec 15

Reply #570130

re: 2016 WA SBL

haha 'sumfin'. 13yo girl on msn...


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Nike Crody
Two years ago
18:53 10 Dec 15

Reply #570157

re: 2016 WA SBL

ML for the win tonight you heard it here first


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Fake Burston
Two years ago
21:59 10 Dec 15

Reply #570253

re: 2016 WA SBL

Most Ledge should get up but thomas, scott r gewd


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
05:42 12 Dec 15

Reply #570602

re: 2016 WA SBL

Did we really go a full day here without an Easley/Butston/Cody/Willetton post?!? Poor form guys


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:02 12 Dec 15

Reply #570628

re: 2016 WA SBL

The juvies were busy. It was a big day on Disney.


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Me
Two years ago
17:41 12 Dec 15

Reply #570662

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cougs msbl import gone already.....any clues why. .


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 16 Dec 15

Reply #571071

re: 2016 WA SBL

Fixtures are up, gotta feel bad for the Flames and Eagles, Second leg of Easter double header on the Monday. Long weekend gone before your eyes.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:29 16 Dec 15

Reply #571094

re: 2016 WA SBL

Giants:

Easter long weekend - road trip to Perth
Anzac Day long weekend - road trip to Perth
WA Day long weekend - road trip to Gero

Pretty sure they're not complaining about it.

Toughen up Perth teams. This is a semi pro league. You play when you play. If you want your weekends off then don't play SBL.

Other state-level sports leagues (WAFL, WANL etc) don't have byes on long weekends.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
18:51 16 Dec 15

Reply #571098

re: 2016 WA SBL

This news was literally just released, so how could you hear them complain yet?

Im sure if you asked the players theyd outline their dismay. It may be a semi pro league but the big V and SEABL both manage to give those weekends off, with the slightest restructuring. Also the WAFL get paid substantially more on avergage because there is a minimum wage. All we are asking is that they spend an extra day and factor in that 90% of us are unpaid/paidverylittle and have plenty on outside of the game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:58 16 Dec 15

Reply #571100

re: 2016 WA SBL

Have you complained to your club and asked them to fight for your cause? All clubs sign off on fixtures. If it's that inconvenient, just have a game or two off.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
20:02 16 Dec 15

Reply #571123

re: 2016 WA SBL

It would honestly benefit the entire league, I dont understand why you are so against this. BWA ignored our request this year.


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Goldfields Giants
Two years ago
20:27 16 Dec 15

Reply #571132

re: 2016 WA SBL

(obviously you can ignore the 'fake' Lukosius posts above)

The Giants' official stance on this is that we are happy to play on long weekends, in fact we request it.

There are two reasons for this:
(1) If we didn't it would make the season even longer than it already is.
(2) Our crowds would be very poor if we had home games on long weekends, hence we request away games.

One of the above posters is correct - all the clubs do sign off on the fixtures, including us.
I do not know of a club who asks for byes on long weekends. They may privately prefer it, but none have officially requested it by our understanding.

If anybody needs this confirmed, please email us at [email protected]


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Anonymoose
Two years ago
21:08 16 Dec 15

Reply #571146

re: 2016 WA SBL

How many Clubs show the proposed fixtures to the players before signing off on them?

I would guess very few, if any.

So 90% or more of the actual players will see the fixtures for the first time today. That means their legitimate complaints are dismissed straight away.

Bring back the real Lukosious doing the fixtures.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:53 16 Dec 15

Reply #571171

re: 2016 WA SBL

SBL have fixtured games on long weekends etc. for many years. Don't wait until the fixtures are released and then squawk about it. You're 12 weeks late - just like last year. Get your club to do something on the players behalf before the fixtures get done.


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Anonymoose
Two years ago
12:15 17 Dec 15

Reply #571211

re: 2016 WA SBL

I guess you didn't want to acknowledge the part where the players don't get consulted. They find out with the rest of the world when the fixtures are released.


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Anonymoose
Two years ago
12:57 17 Dec 15

Reply #571214

re: 2016 WA SBL

I guess you didn't want to acknowledge the part where the players don't get consulted. They find out with the rest of the world when the fixtures are released.


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Lukosius
Two years ago
13:51 17 Dec 15

Reply #571226

re: 2016 WA SBL

We never get consulted, and we (and the coaching and support staff) are the ones that actually train all year and play. Its pretty disgusting that there is such a separation between the league and the people that make it up, not even an end of season survey asking how to make the league better.

Things that don't cost any money but just take a slight change to make the league that we all love more enjoyable for everyone.

ie fixturing
number of games
number of teams
etc


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:30 17 Dec 15

Reply #571234

re: 2016 WA SBL

If the SBL included 100 individual players views on fixturing it would never get done. SBL clubs represent their players. When the clubs sign off on the fixtures, they are doing it on behalf of their admin and players. If players want changes they need to discuss it with their club. Public holiday and long weekend games have been played for years. The structure of the fixtures has not changed very much over the past ten years or so. Players need to get their club to fight for changes - before the fixtures are done, not complain afterwards. And it's not a cop out, the SBL is comprised of clubs and clubs are comprised of players and volunteers.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:05 17 Dec 15

Reply #571251

re: 2016 WA SBL

Very well put


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:11 17 Dec 15

Reply #571252

re: 2016 WA SBL

Crikey!! If you keep forgetting it every year write it on the back of your hand or on your wall or on a blackboard. Get it tattooed on your arse.

You don't need a survey, just clubs speaking up to the SBL Board and presenting their players views.

"Lets say BWA staff have a favourite hobby, wouldn't you rather that hobby not infringe on every other aspect of your life for one weekend a season?"

WTF does this mean?? I think I'm starting to understand why your memory let's you down year after year after year.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:36 17 Dec 15

Reply #571259

re: 2016 WA SBL

A mid season survey would be cool,

much like they do in other leagues and ask things like,

which coaches youd most like to play for
any league changes you think are appropriate
best players
anything else?


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Willy Drew
Two years ago
16:43 17 Dec 15

Reply #571261

re: 2016 WA SBL

What is the relevance of questions 1 and 3 to anyone?

A survey could be a good thing if it asks for views on things relevant to improving the league, creating a better environment for players and others or even getting more spectators to games.


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Free Willy
Two years ago
17:53 17 Dec 15

Reply #571269

re: 2016 WA SBL

The NBA and SBL should never be mentioned in the same paragraph.


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Nic Cody
Two years ago
18:31 17 Dec 15

Reply #571273

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yer obviously, ignore that but moving on if the SEABL AND QBL can do it why cnat we?


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Free Willy
Two years ago
18:51 17 Dec 15

Reply #571278

re: 2016 WA SBL

A survey would be good. Whether SBL/BWA would take notice is another thing. It will take the clubs to initiate change, no hope of players getting it done unless their clubs are behind them.
Maybe we could start up a players union. Fourteen teams x 30 players (m & w) x $2.00 per week each = $840.00 per week could pay for representation.
Please reply with copies of your money orders or Paypal details.


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Horn
Two years ago
19:17 17 Dec 15

Reply #571284

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not a bad idea, but not really necessary to have money involved. Maybe just ask the captains of every team and they can ask the players themselves, all teams have their own facebook groups now which makes correspondence extremely easy.


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Free Willy
Two years ago
19:22 17 Dec 15

Reply #571286

re: 2016 WA SBL

But then you're relying on the people who forget every year to bring their issues to someones attention.


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Free Willy
Two years ago
19:24 17 Dec 15

Reply #571288

re: 2016 WA SBL

But I agree something needs to be done, the discontinuity between those running the comp and those that actually participate has been too great for too long. BWA will look into it.


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Anonymoose
Two years ago
12:50 18 Dec 15

Reply #571390

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thinking that BWA will actually look into it or do something is wishful thinking. The people in charge right now are the ones that have created this mess.

You have a person in charge of the SBL that doesn't go to games on the weekend and wants his weekends to be free.......hmmm. Funnily enough they aren't a Basketball person so don't really get it.


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Free Willy
Two years ago
13:04 18 Dec 15

Reply #571391

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who is in charge of the SBL. Isn't Andy Stewart the Head Commish?
All the people on the SBL board or commission are from our clubs. They're the ones who should be harassed to seek changes whether it be to the structure of the comp or to the "managers" who run it.


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DaHuzyBru
Two years ago
20:00 18 Dec 15

Reply #571410

re: 2016 WA SBL

After leaving Cockburn, Brandon McGill is set to join Kalamunda


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:02 19 Dec 15

Reply #571421

re: 2016 WA SBL

you mean after being told to leave, he is joining kalamunda


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:18 19 Dec 15

Reply #571441

re: 2016 WA SBL

Most likely because cockburn can't pay him anything, financially a good decision best of luck to brandon


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Anony jake the muss
Two years ago
14:35 20 Dec 15

Reply #571575

re: 2016 WA SBL

The word is everyone at Kalamunda gets paid this season. $50 bills for all.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:24 20 Dec 15

Reply #571607

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think Cockburn signed him under the understanding he was not being paid so it has very little to do with that. He was released from his contract, reasons unknown but not his decision, Cockburn's decision.

Word is Mandurah or Kalamunda are looking at him.

Also hearing some rather humorous rumours regarding some young lads around the league who for some reason think they have the worth of gaining money from clubs. I find this hilarious as clubs might be paying them.

Willetton have rejigged and reloaded for a championship. Armour, Scott, Bowie,one more import, and possibly Easley as well, Nic Cody, stephen black as assistant, and recently signed Josh Johnson after returning from college and from looks of it fit and ready to go. Willo never seem to be short of the old benjamins.

Kalamunda, well they signed J.P. so far so that is their biggest signing. other than that, lost seva and jaarod holmes and a coach.

Geraldton is gaining Chudier Pal after returning from college and Beau Samuelson. The possibility of one more aussie also. Resigned Carter Cook and signed another import. Will be a team to beat again this year with more signings from over east on the way also.

Lakeside have recruited well for the most part and they are leading kids to believe because an American Coach and Tony Ronaldson are there that magic will happen. Expect lots of young kids coming through looking for court time with the apparent 17th retirement of Jarrad Prue and word is Brad Krump Jackson has pulled the plug also.

Magic are magically getting money from an outside source and will be paying Ben Smith to keep his services and JJ, but looking to gain Brandon McGill also so that's more money, then another import as well, so interesting considering apparently Jason Chalk stole all their money.

Stirling have kept quiet but im sure will have similar ballers, however from word on the streets, is that the new gym and arena is top of line and rivals all stadiums so that will be an upgrade from the crap they used to play in.

Cougars have signed an import then delisted him, but signed another import and another on the way. Picked up Della and D.T. and maintained the services of the best aussie in Gavin Field.

Joondalup seem to be quiet also but will have similar squad as no retirements occur and judging by the way it normally works with the coach, good/similar team he will stick around.

Redbacks have lost club stalwart in J.P. and apparently more to go, but not sure what they can gain from outside clubs. perhaps a few younger guys.

Bunbury have resigned Nicholls which is great and Weeden will be available mid season so the club will have to stick it tough with just the two imports until Weeden can return. Losing Ty is a major blow as he was a referee call machine.

Kalgoorlie have signed big apparently, and are getting at least three from over east. Rumour has it Haney is training with the team and has also been playing local comps. With the new SBL rule, Haney is available to play also which means, Player coach will be in affect for him. Lost Bowie but sure they will find someone to replace him with the money they have.

Perry Lakes signed Hobbs back and will get another import, then mixed in with local talent of who they already have will be up in top 8 again im sure.

Rockingham have signed Land brothers again but have lost some guys in the Traihair exodus to Geraldton. They will be hard nosed and tough as usual but depth might be an issue.

There is a little bit of a run down so far from what is going around the league, if anyone knows other ones that are not Burston or Cody related please fill us in. :P




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Anonymouse
Two years ago
19:05 20 Dec 15

Reply #571615

re: 2016 WA SBL

What about East Perth? Should be getting a number of new players with their new coach and staff. Could be getting a few Redbacks deserters. Stirling also with new coach Ellis sure to attract ex state players.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:10 21 Dec 15

Reply #571650

re: 2016 WA SBL

Vigor to Perry Lakes,
Apparently he wants to come home before the next BBL season and would be a force after speanding time and performing in the SEABL AND the BBL.

good friends with Purser aswell so


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Nic Burston
Two years ago
16:39 22 Dec 15

Reply #571731

re: 2016 WA SBL

Josh Garlepp to Perry Dicks on big sauce


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JG
Two years ago
20:11 22 Dec 15

Reply #571750

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who said that?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:33 5 Jan 16

Reply #572677

re: 2016 WA SBL

Easley confirmed at Slammers according to their facebook page.


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Anonymous
Last year
02:41 6 Jan 16

Reply #572695

re: 2016 WA SBL

Giants sign Daniel Goodluck from North Adelaide from the SA comp. seem to put up decent numbers over there, anyone know what the comparison to the WASBL is competition wise?


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Easily
Last year
11:07 6 Jan 16

Reply #572712

re: 2016 WA SBL

Im taking my talents to South...west


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Chop Shop
Last year
14:09 6 Jan 16

Reply #572728

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nikora to Goldfields according to some reports?


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interested
Last year
15:29 6 Jan 16

Reply #572736

re: 2016 WA SBL

Goodluck appears to be a PG as well so if Nikora goes to Goldfields his opportunities might be limited/shared.

Are there many college returnees this season?
Redbacks - lewis thomas
Tigers - josh johnson
Stirling - do they get throns back

Any Wildcats playing in league this season? Hire, Jervis?


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NthAdelaide
Last year
18:26 6 Jan 16

Reply #572751

re: 2016 WA SBL

Daniel Goodluck is a combo guard and shared the PG duties with Rockets import Aric Miller is 2015.

So playing the 2-spot is well within his capabilities.


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Premier
Last year
18:33 6 Jan 16

Reply #572752

re: 2016 WA SBL

The SA Premier League is a decent league.

They only allow one import, but because of this they tend to get a lot more NBL and ex-NBL Aussies play in that league.

Mitch Creek, Anthony Petrie, Peter Crawford, Jacob Holmes, Darren Ng, Adam Gibson, Blake Truslove and Pero Vasiljevic all suited up in the Premier League in 2015.


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I heard
Last year
09:48 7 Jan 16

Reply #572815

re: 2016 WA SBL

I heard that the Tigers are chasing Jervis and trying to get him to tigerland.

This would put them right in the contention: Armour, Scott, Bowie, Cody, Jervis make a tough starting 5.

Any practice games scheduled?


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Chop Shop
Last year
10:46 7 Jan 16

Reply #572818

re: 2016 WA SBL

Can't see that happening.

In terms of scheduled games - cant see that happening anytime soon. Not at least for another solid month anyway until teams have put numbers on the court & started executing offences etc.


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Scheduling
Last year
12:47 7 Jan 16

Reply #572833

re: 2016 WA SBL

Just another example of BWA not trying to improve the league why not sculpt the league so its appealing to the best players? This is a problem every year, players cant come because of NBL committments


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Interested Observer
Last year
13:03 7 Jan 16

Reply #572834

re: 2016 WA SBL

I have been saying that and the public holiday thing for a couple weeks now.

Its ridiculous


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Chop Shop
Last year
14:09 7 Jan 16

Reply #572839

re: 2016 WA SBL

How is it not appealing?

The only thing holding it back is the lack of money some teams have to spend compared to others. If the money is right, then the better players will come.
Its not exactly the scheduling.


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Interested Observer
Last year
14:45 7 Jan 16

Reply #572844

re: 2016 WA SBL

Many times players cant play because there is a clash with preseason, particularly if it is an interstate nbl team.

This happens almost every year, its also why some better players rule out all together playing here.

What if we made the SBL really really appealing for interstate players?Could even try and market it as THE BEST OFFSEASON LEAGUE or something like that


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Chop Shop
Last year
15:06 7 Jan 16

Reply #572846

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bennie Lewis left Melbourne to play here.
Cody Ellis returned from Sydney to play for Stirling.
Tom Garlepp returned from Sydney before his stock rose considerably.
Peter Crawford came back to the Hawks for a while.

I'd like to know what NBL or interstate talent didn't come here because it 'clashed with preseason' or even considered the SBL?

It boils down to money paid or a team not wanting them to play to rest the body/too big a liability.

Plain & simple.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:34 7 Jan 16

Reply #572848

re: 2016 WA SBL

No chance of SBL being a good comp when clubs with big revenue from juniors can buy a championship by taking the poorer clubs better players. Spectator numbers tell us this is correct. What significant changes have been made to the SBL since 1989?
It seems BWA are happy for the comp to struggle along, not really get better and not change a thing.


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Interested Observer
Last year
17:43 7 Jan 16

Reply #572861

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cody Ellis didnt have a contract at the time and his dad was the GM and now the Coach... soooo

Garlepp hasnt played in the league since and I believe didnt have a contract the year after. Doesnt come back now because there is no appeal.

Peter Crawford was playing with the wildcats at the time.

Bennie Lewis wasnt contracted to any NBL club when he first played for Gero.

All the lower tier NBL players have to play somewhere else in the offseason because the money is so bad.

All Im saying is they would be more likely to come here if it didnt clash with any timetable. Its been obvious for a long time. The money would help of course Im not doubting that but


Couldnt agree with u more anonymous, you have to ask yourself, what is the harm of trying to improve the league? The victorian leagues are brave in comparison.

In saying that though Kalamunda was the only team that really struggled last year every other club was competitive.


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Chop Shop
Last year
19:32 7 Jan 16

Reply #572870

re: 2016 WA SBL

Crawford was playing for Townsville & had his controversial Boomers Olympic stint at the time actually....but anyways.

So what are you saying needs to improve really? Change the start date? Why not put a consortium together & forward it to BWA?


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Anonymous
Last year
11:05 8 Jan 16

Reply #572924

re: 2016 WA SBL

Think the start but more importantly the end dates need to to change because players dont want to have to fly back and forth and teams dont want a player to just leave for finals. Also taking into account long weekends needs to be considered and from what Ive heard next year BWA will take a long hard look at the possibility due to overwelming support for a long weekend breaks for teams.

Interesting about crawford, hed be great to have as a coach in this league if he were available.


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interested
Last year
12:23 8 Jan 16

Reply #572930

re: 2016 WA SBL

Moving dates needs to reflect what the actual objective/goal is in doing so.

Even if the dates worked well with the NBL season and there were no conflicts, would the Wildcats allow many of their players to compete in the SBL? I would only think the DPs and 9th/10th players would.

Generally these players are playing in the SBL with some time in between to freshen up.

I don't think moving the SBL season would really affect how many NBL guys would play.

It is probably more valuable in looking at what the season dates mean for college players and for imports.

Generally any local players that are going to college miss the last part of the season, or finals games. At a really rough guess I think this affects approx 4-6 players per season.

The European leagues have different season/finals structures but the better leagues conflict with current SBL fixtures meaning any better imports (Okoye, McDowell etc) would be unavailable for a large number of games at the start of the season.

I agree with a lot of the opinions that there could be some changes and initiatives made to improve the SBL.

Keeping the same number of games but condensing the season duration by about 4 weeks would be something I think could work.

Obviously having country teams makes this a bit more difficult but maybe having Gero/Kal having home double headers may be a solution???

One other thing that has long been an issue and has no easy answer is the payment of players.
As mentioned above, some more financial teams often lure top end players with payments in an attempt to strengthen their roster.

Is this right or wrong? I'm not really sure but it does create some issues.
1) Clubs that are less financial are not really able to compete in the longer term (they might have a season or two where they are competitive but this can't be sustained)
2) Younger players or average players are being offered payments really just to lure them away from a club. In reality these players do not deserve to be paid. It makes it difficult for clubs to sustain a good financial position and it also sets unrealistic views of where there players are at.

I'm wondering if a points type system would work in this scenario which also had payment bands attached. Obviously it would be more admin for the league and might get exploited by some teams.

Example:
1 point player = rookie with less 10 SBL games = No payment allowed
2 point player = role player that has less than 100 SBL games and average less than 12mins court time in previous season = No payment allowed
3 point player = solid SBL player with more than 100 SBL games = $100/game or less
4 point player = elite non-restricted player more than 100 SBL games and stats based ranking = $250/game or less
5 point player = restricted player = $800/game or less

A restricted point total per team is established and the game payments are more controlled.
Any team found to be breaking the rules lose all points for year.

Just a thought...


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:52 8 Jan 16

Reply #572931

re: 2016 WA SBL

The point system is ridiculous.

It will stop people from earning a roster position simply because it won't fit into the allocated total.

Doesn't work in NBL (players body is trying to abolish it) - definitely wont work at a lower level either.


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interested
Last year
13:05 8 Jan 16

Reply #572932

re: 2016 WA SBL

So Chop Shop, your ideas???

I think refinement is needed, not wholesale changes


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original poster
Last year
13:48 8 Jan 16

Reply #572934

re: 2016 WA SBL

Whether someone "deserves" to be paid is completely subjective.

People are paid whatever the market offers. Take the money while you can because basketball is under supported finacially compared to rugby and footy but still requires a massive time committment.

To be honest the amount of money going to players like damian scott, trian iliadis etc is approx 100 to 300 a game. Which in reality probably could be afforded by most clubs if they had one sponsor or a fundraiser.

Point system is not wanted but I do like the idea of manditory minimum payments. We want the best players here possible. I think thats the kill making the league as appealing as possible for bigger names and ability.

maybe cut the refs pay and put that toward a player fund?


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Chop Shop
Last year
14:10 8 Jan 16

Reply #572936

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lets be honest the logistics of it all will make it difficult to change much.

Compressing the fixture leads to over loading teams (they've even added a week as of last year? to try reduce the number of double headers).

If you shorten the games then you have teams either with the possibility of not playing each other (unlikely) or once (possible). But whether or not that makes for much of a spectacle - who knows. Depends how the league & teams market that.

A bye week makes the most sense to attempt to keep some noise makers happy.

I think everyone is just being ancy about it for something to talk about. Its a semi-professional league, playing on long weekends & days that most people would have off work etc is to be expected. If you don't like it, obviously SBL isn't for you & you aren't overly serious about a career in basketball.

Looking forward to the season 2K16


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original poster
Last year
14:48 8 Jan 16

Reply #572941

re: 2016 WA SBL

That is an absolute cop out to say if you dont like it then dont play? So you are saying then that the SEABL is less serious than the SBL? and that the Big V is too? Both these leagues easily cater for the long weekends. You said it yourself it IS a semi pro league... key word SEMI. More than anything there needs to more communication between the league and the people that actually participate. Rather than a North korea set up. To say if you dont like it leave to me depicts an organisation completely unwilling to engage with its investors... the people.

I dont quite understand why its so important that we play every team twice, I understand the reasoning, but is it really necessary when it come to season leangth and double headers etc. Surely it would make your job alot easier? i mean in between games of minesweeper and tinder obviously.


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changes
Last year
14:56 8 Jan 16

Reply #572942

re: 2016 WA SBL

I don't think it is just the season fixtures that posters are looking at, but what changes could be made to improve the SBL and get it to the best comp outside of NBL.

Here are some high level options:

- Increase Competition skill level
1) reduce team numbers to reduce spread of talent
2) attract higher quality non-restricted players
3) increase restricted players to 3 per team
4) introduce better second tier comp so players are more developed when entering SBL
5) introduce incentives for teams/players (prize money etc)
6) build better relationship with NBL teams and become an official development league

- Improve Quality of Officials
1) provide a better development program for officials
2) improve dialogue between players/coaches and officials and have forums to get better relations
3) scrap any Point of Emphasis initiatives which always cause issues and fizzle out after first 6 weeks
4) develop the culture of officials where there is more emphasis on being part of the supply chain and not THE supply chain

- Improve crowd numbers and following
1) start games earlier in more family friendly timeslots
2) build more of link between WABL and SBL where junior players have an incentive to attend SBL (maybe competitions to win reduced WABL fees)
3) improve media offerings. (youtube channel, greater social media, interviews with players etc)

Some of the above have potential, while others might not work. The more genuine ideas that posters can generate then maybe something can be done.



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Reply #572943

re: 2016 WA SBL

Finally great to see some good discussion on here rather than the usual broohaha of whether or not Jake Burston's mole has gotten a date lately... and if it has how did it affect the thurs night comp at The Church!?

Ok first things first... Original Poster wrote "maybe cut the refs pay and put that towards a player fund" - In the words of my boy Trigger 'LEL' Just HOW much do you think the refs are on? Not too sure of current rates but from memory goin back a couple of years Panel 3 was like $70 for a Women's game and $85 for a Men's; Then that went up to Panel 1 around $110 & $130 roughly. Given that most of the refs give up around the same amount of time each weekend as players (Remember most Panel 1 & 2s will regularly ref two games per weekend if they're not rostered in Gero or Kal) then the pay given is barely sufficient when taking into account travel, abuse, stress, clueless spectators etc. So saying ok lets take cash from the one key factor we need to have a game, refs, to give back to the players - is kinda stupid and rather ill-informed.

I agree that maybe something has to be done in regards to the length of the season and making it more appealing for players to manage playing in a semi-professional league whilst also spending time with their loved ones, mates etc too. A while back I posted that I think a way of curbing this would be moving to two conferences. 7 Teams in each conference, with Top 4 teams from each conference going straight into the Finals. 1st in North Conference plays 4th in the south, 2nd N plays 3rd S... you get where I am going here. You play each team in your conference twice (Home and Away) and you play teams in the opposite conference once (Yes like WABL... it works and you just alternate each year as to who plays who were e.g - 2016 Rockingham (South) play Buccs (North) in Geraldton; 2017 Buccs play Flames at Rocko)

It would mean each team would have a 20 game season, and if you reduced it to a 15 week regular season, it would mean around 4 or 5 double headers rather than the 8 or 9 we currently have = More time away from Basketball and with those you would prefer to spend time with.

I would love to see better marketing - YouTube Page (SEABL & Big V do this very well) / Weekly Wrap-Ups / ALL Clubs actively involved with the Radio Show / Regular articles in The West & Community Newspapers.

I don't think the $$ issue can be truly covered though. If clubs are held accountable they will just find loopholes to get away with player payments through sponsorship etc. Is it fair - no, but will it change in its current format... probably not. The League needs three things to maintain its relativity: 1) Buccs & Giants to be relevant / In Finals... If either of these two teams ever got to the point where they were not competitive for several successive years, the League would also suffer in the short and long term. 2) League Honcho's need to figure out a system which penalises clubs for poaching talented WABL players away from their junior clubs just for promises of a quick buck and instant success, whilst killing the development pathways of the so called 'weaker clubs'. 3) Publicity... pump the game in any way shape or form - BBL is popular is heck right now and that's in light of some horrible negative press at the moment but such is the wave that they are on, they're using it to generate more viewers / interest / revenue. Get your clubs out into the local community at local fairs / shopping centres / fundraising initiatives >> If people can relate to just one person they meet at these events, they WILL come to your home games. Then the onus is on you to put forward a game night product that is worthy of making them want to come back... Just my thoughts :-)


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Anonymouse
Last year
16:25 8 Jan 16

Reply #572951

re: 2016 WA SBL

A way to approach the "recruiting" of weaker clubs juniors and developed players could be to introduce transfer fees. This could be done with set fees, graded on games played, years played etc. and with an appeal process for disputes.

I like the conference system as described by [email protected] It won't prevent the best two teams playing for the championship and has a few benefits that could improve the SBL.

Clubs should be forced to offer information re their recruiting etc. prior to the season as info will create interest. I cannot recall any SBL info on who is on who's roster for the past two years or more. The secrecy thing is bullshit and doesn't provide any advantage to anyone in reality.


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DaHuzyBru
Last year
02:56 11 Jan 16

Reply #573149

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jourdan DeMuynck has signed with Perth Redbacks per https://twitter.com/AkosVeg/status/686196236999880704


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Anonymous
Last year
11:04 11 Jan 16

Reply #573162

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looks like a less athletic shorter version of Justin Cecil..


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interested
Last year
11:50 11 Jan 16

Reply #573167

re: 2016 WA SBL

Time will tell but it would appear the Redback imports are not on the level that previous imports have been?

Is this a budget constraint or a change of direction?

Maybe they feel the local contingent is better this year?


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fan
Last year
14:39 11 Jan 16

Reply #573180

re: 2016 WA SBL

I'm sure the Redbacks import will be good, Nik tends to pick good ones.
Who are going to be the big improvers this year?
I think Lakeside could be one.


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interested
Last year
15:34 11 Jan 16

Reply #573183

re: 2016 WA SBL

- Buccs to drop with new rookie coach, ageing list, potentially no Lewis
- Cockburn to dropoff as roster turnover will not help their chemistry
- Eagles are a bit unknown. Main players are ageing and won't impact as much, don't know if there are any juniors coming thru that can impact
- Flames to drop with no improvement to roster, actually weaker roster
- Giants to drop with departure of Mua.
- Hawks to maintain late season form and be a big overall improver. Assuming they get their 2nd import spot right
- Redbacks to improve after lessons from last season and more balanced team
- Senators to improve with Ellis coaching. Will be hoping their college players come back and make impact
- Slammers to drop as they will miss Ty as coach and player
- Suns to still be bottom of ladder as team will be weaker than last season
- Tigers to improve with upgrade of import/s to counter loss of hayden/burston
- Wolves to hold steady and win it all


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Chop Shop
Last year
16:01 11 Jan 16

Reply #573184

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well heres my early predictions for the 2016 season:

1 Joondalup Wolves - still the team to beat. Most reports have the same nucleus together. Timms to have a more prominent role after an injury free pre-season

2 Stirling Senators - everything is shaping up for them to have a break out year IMO & could be the big movers. Showed positive signs last year, with a young talented squad, new stadium, financial backing of the church & Mike Ellis return to senior coaching - the pieces are there.

3 Cockburn Cougars - should continue to flourish under Parsons in year 2. Provided they are able to find another 2x useful imports & the return of Holmes & Thomas work out.

4 Geraldton Buccs - always competitive & always have financial backing to attract good talent. Addition of some Rockingham players & Trahair at the helm could provide the depth Geraldton never seemingly have.

5 Willetton Tigers - dark horse to perform up to their potential. Signing Bowie, keeping most the firepower & trimming the fat. Positioned for a big year but will rank at the middle of the pack until they prove otherwise.

6 Goldfields Giants - Signings of 2x imports, Goodluck (SA) & Nikora (Perth) plus the local brigade will see them be competitive as always & should push for a finals position once again.

7 Lakeside Lightning - Not much out the camp in turns of signings other than Chan (rumoured but not confirmed?). But with a new USA coach & Ronaldson on board, I think this could be their first trip back to post season action since the end of the Stewart era.

8 Perry Lakes Hawks - Hobbs supposedly back on with the typical support cast but have kept a low profile for most the pre season. Always play hard & cant be counted out, so I wont & have them around the same mark as 2015.

9 Southwest Slammers - Losing Harrellson will hurt but hopefully the association learnt a thing or two to sustain some on court success. Will win games, but probably not enough.

10 Rockingham Flames - no word on the Land boys returning & some players headed north to the shores of Geraldton, wins may be hard to come by.

11 Perth Redbacks - another tough year for the boys in Red, downgrade in imports (no Turner or Putney), departure of players & a return to Belmont Oasis - cant see them pushing for a finals position.

12 Mandurah Magic - no home games for 2016. Havent heard of any player movements, so cant see them improving much on last years disastrous finish.

13 East Perth Eagles - Joe Allens first year at the helm. After a tutelage of the legendary John Gardiner he could wind up being a success, but with a very young brigade & no signings announced, they have a long way to go.

14 Kalamunda Eastern Suns - new coach. same story. Expect them to take the wooden spoon again. Lost two promising youngsters in Chan & Holmes, new imports surely having to learn a new system & unflattering signings in Prior, McIllroy & unproven 18 year olds.

Feel free to comment & Discuss


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Anonymous
Last year
16:13 11 Jan 16

Reply #573185

re: 2016 WA SBL

What's the go with Lordan Franich for the Giants? Is he suiting up this season?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:19 11 Jan 16

Reply #573194

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think he is, did his ACL first game last year so should be ready for pre season if everything has gone well.

Not sure why Stirling are ranked so highly, how are they better than last year? I will be surprised to see them do well while Ellis is taking up one of their restricted spots. Need two imports to get enough wins IMO.

Chan is confirmed at Lakeside, but apparently they have lost Jesse Dixon to retirement as well now.

Wolves could go the full year undefeated at this stage


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Anonymous
Last year
17:54 11 Jan 16

Reply #573196

re: 2016 WA SBL

Louis Timms is going to Ty Harrelson's college and won't be playing for wolves so it says on their website.


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fan
Last year
18:40 11 Jan 16

Reply #573201

re: 2016 WA SBL

Great feedback! I think Mandurah will do better than you guys picked, they were top 4 most of the season prior to the disastrous finish. Obviously chemistry issues had to be the problem there.
I would like to say the same for Flames and Redbacks but I will have to see what players have left and joined before committing.
Agree that Wolves win again, they are the only team that wins by standing pat for awhile.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:25 11 Jan 16

Reply #573206

re: 2016 WA SBL

Chop Shop

Lakeside made the semis the first year after Stewart departure.

Mandurah lost Big Ben Smith to Flames, Rhett Della to Cougars and Stoveld to Cougars. Although Mully should be a local this season which opens the door for them to get 2 more imports. If they can upgrade on trigger happy Hafford and get another good big they are competitive. Will need Jackson to stay healthy to be consistently winning. It wouldnt hurt if Florance hit a 3 every now and then too.

Slammers should still be tough. Picking up Easley as a local keeps their dream of 4 American born players alive. Retaining Nicholls was huge for them and Weeden returning at some point this season. They just need to find a good replacement for Voelkel, preferrably someone who isnt going to blow a fuse and get ejected every few games. The boy could rebound though!


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Chop Shop
Last year
19:39 11 Jan 16

Reply #573207

re: 2016 WA SBL

Just trying to spurn some more relative discussion instead of antics. Happy to be proven wrong if others know better.

Get people talking, the blitz will be here in no time.


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Anonymouse
Last year
19:57 11 Jan 16

Reply #573211

re: 2016 WA SBL

Didn't someone mention on here earlier that Luke Neville may be at Stirling.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:47 12 Jan 16

Reply #573242

re: 2016 WA SBL

I didn't see that? But if they do that improves their chances. He was completely unstoppable last time in the league.


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:11 12 Jan 16

Reply #573244

re: 2016 WA SBL

Reports that Perth were courting him as well.


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fan
Last year
12:22 12 Jan 16

Reply #573246

re: 2016 WA SBL

Luke Nevill would improve any team, he definitely makes Stirling or Perth tough if it is true. I didn't know about Ben Smith to Flames, this is a big loss to Mandurah if true.
In the SBL most coaches would find a legit 7 footer who possesses solid inside play is difficult to defend with guys usually 6'7 or 6'8 matching up. This requires a certain game style to combat


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Anonymous
Last year
13:13 12 Jan 16

Reply #573250

re: 2016 WA SBL

Solid inside play but he also shot 40% from 3 for the season.

Mandurah will surely struggle this year?


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Downtown
Last year
14:11 12 Jan 16

Reply #573260

re: 2016 WA SBL

It will be interesting to see how Magic go without having a home court for a season irresepctive of roster changes

Mully being a local this year is huge. They didnt use him much in their offence in 2015 and he looked like he had been on the same training regime as Carter Cook so if they can get him back in shape and touching the ball within 10 feet of the basket regularly they will more than cover what Smith brought inside.

If they can get two solid imports, a big to replace Smith who can stretch the floor a little and a wing to replace Hafford then they shouldnt be too bad. The loss of R.Della will be harder to cover.

Jackson's health is extremely important for them this year. No real margin for error if he has to sit out any games.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:13 12 Jan 16

Reply #573261

re: 2016 WA SBL

ben smith is staying with Mandurah magic , have already signed an import . have lost dellas, gerovich (cougars) samuelson,stoveld (buccs )not sure if taylor mullenax is an aussie yet or this season.will make a difference , also more key signings to come. Mandurah will be playing finals this season.


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Chop Shop
Last year
15:13 12 Jan 16

Reply #573267

re: 2016 WA SBL

I know it will never (ever) happen, but I'd love to see the introduction of a trade system for the league.

Imagine how interesting that would get.


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Lukosius
Last year
15:55 12 Jan 16

Reply #573277

re: 2016 WA SBL

That would be interesting... but the league cant even bring in public holiday breaks what makes you think theyd bring in a trade system.

Stirling will be tough this year Ellis is a legit coach and exactly what the young crew needs, whether they can produce consistently (throns, woodbury), is another thing. Cody should be hungry to win will help if import is legit. Their stadium is also meant to be decent

Lakeside are another side that will be interesting, Chan finally getting some respect in the league and will only get better with a legit coach.

Perry lakes potentially could perform well this year, hickert rumoured to be headed there,
Ryan smith hadnt played bball in 4 years before this season and stood out in multiple games meaning he will probably get better, dixon coming off season with cats, hobbs back and in same system, cassir back, purser same, garlepp same... any word on their other import?

Mandurah will struggle... as will kalamunda dont know who plays there now.


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Chop Shop
Last year
18:27 12 Jan 16

Reply #573292

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^ not Lukosius, just based off the terminology used alone.


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Chop Shop
Last year
18:29 12 Jan 16

Reply #573293

re: 2016 WA SBL

I respect the input though


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Anonymouse
Last year
18:42 12 Jan 16

Reply #573295

re: 2016 WA SBL

I agree. Lukosius has a grip on spelling/grammar. Good post though mate, just get your own name.


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SBLWA
Last year
18:48 12 Jan 16

Reply #573298

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey guys check out the SBL instagram!

Its the funnest way to interact with your favourite league.

Just search the username...

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... and tag us in any basketball related pics and we will bloody repost them!




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Aonymoose
Last year
20:12 12 Jan 16

Reply #573304

re: 2016 WA SBL

Oh hi Josh....I mean SBL ;)


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Downtown
Last year
13:29 13 Jan 16

Reply #573347

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who are the likely Aussies to have breakout years this year?

Last season saw guys like Ash Litterick and Jayden Coburn emerge for Senators, Parkinson and Martin for Lightning, Ironmonger for Wolves, Chan at Suns and Pesava for Cougars.

Are any of these guys going to make the jump to being consistent performers in 2016?

Are there any other guys who might make some noise this year?


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Chop Shop
Last year
15:28 13 Jan 16

Reply #573361

re: 2016 WA SBL

Litterick I did not think too highly of (but happy to be proved wrong), Coburn has some real promise, but might still be a while away.

Alabakis from Perry Lakes perhaps after training with the Wildcats most the season? But he needs some size on the frame & will obviously be pretty raw at senior level

We'll all have a clearer idea a few weeks into the season I'm sure


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really
Last year
15:47 13 Jan 16

Reply #573363

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think Alabakis has signed to play college ball in Louisiana.

U20 state players that may have impact, assuming they get picked for SBL team:
- Matt Vinci - Cockburn
- Daniel Grida - Lakeside
- Corey Shervill - Lakeside
- Jayden Coburn - Stirling


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Anonymous
Last year
16:17 13 Jan 16

Reply #573364

re: 2016 WA SBL

Grida should get consistent minutes at Lakeside and produce before heading to college.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:34 13 Jan 16

Reply #573365

re: 2016 WA SBL

WOMENS 2016 PREDICTIONS.

1. WILLETON +
2. PERRY LAKES +
3. ROCKINGHAM -
4. REDBACKS +
5. WOLVES -
6. LAKESIDE +
7. STIRLING +
8. EAST PERTH +

9. COCKBURN -
10. MANDURAH -
11.KALAMUNDA -
12. S/W SLAMMERS -


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Anonymous
Last year
17:41 13 Jan 16

Reply #573366

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wow you are predicting a fairly considerable shake up for the women there.

Lakeside to rise from bottom to 6th? They are getting two imports and a new coach this year but that's a fair improvement!

Southwest to drop from 6th to last?
Suns from 5th to second last?

Explain?


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Downtown
Last year
18:34 13 Jan 16

Reply #573370

re: 2016 WA SBL

Will Vinci see any significant minutes now that Daniel Thomas has returned? Keeping in mind Van Lit is still there. Its not like he can even pinch minutes at the 2 with Lane possibly returning and Pesava showing he is going to be very good at the senior level.

Alabakis is an interesting one to keep an eye on for sure.

Definitely keen to see how Grida and Sherville go in 2016 as both very exciting talents. Both are as long as a summers day and versatile players. Could do with some meat on their bones but Im sure Lakeside will have them locked in that gym and on the protein shakes


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Anonymous
Last year
18:37 13 Jan 16

Reply #573371

re: 2016 WA SBL

And how are Rocko going backwards in the womens with a better team than last year?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:39 13 Jan 16

Reply #573372

re: 2016 WA SBL

Litterick averaged 7.3ppg at 56% from the floor and 5.4 Rb. Not bad for a young kid with no real significant minutes previously.
He started for part of the season too.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:25 14 Jan 16

Reply #573391

re: 2016 WA SBL

Isn't Vinci's work ethic the problem not his playing time?


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SBLWA
Last year
12:46 14 Jan 16

Reply #573392

re: 2016 WA SBL

====== The Official SBL Preseason Power Rankings ® ======

1. Joondalup
2. Cockburn
3. Willetton
4. Perry Lakes
5. Kalgoorlie
6. Geraldton
7. Stirling
8. Rockingham
9. Lakeside
10. Bunbury
11. Perth
12. Mandurah
13. East Perth
14. Kalamunda

==========================================================
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Web: http://sbl.asn.au/
Social Media: https://www.instagram.com/sblwa/


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Chop Shop
Last year
13:08 14 Jan 16

Reply #573396

re: 2016 WA SBL

Fair ranking....other than Perry Lakes at #4


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Anonymous
Last year
13:34 14 Jan 16

Reply #573401

re: 2016 WA SBL

garbin is going to be away for a chunk. they have been a club that has not copped an injury to an important player for a couple of years , hunger ?
other teams have improved . hawks,tigers,
don't get me wrong they are tough girls who deserve the utmost respect but its just a view.
lakeside will rise they were a team that copped injuries that is why they finished where they did.
slammers going with youth blew their budget to bits last season hence the drop. suns lose dennis,edwards, a lot of depth.
explained.


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interested
Last year
13:38 14 Jan 16

Reply #573402

re: 2016 WA SBL

The power ranking looks pretty accurate from the news/rumours during the offseason.

The only one that I would question is Cockburn. I'm not sure I would have them that high.

The major reason for success last season was the way the coach got all the players to buy in to the system and to play together.

Will quite a big player turnover, and adding a few veterans who may not adjust to the system, I think they will drop off a bit from last season.


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Anonomouse
Last year
14:03 14 Jan 16

Reply #573407

re: 2016 WA SBL

PL is up there due to "SBLWA" playing for them


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Anonymous
Last year
14:03 14 Jan 16

Reply #573408

re: 2016 WA SBL

Royal Crouch confirmed as Slammers second import.
Starting five of Nichols, Crouch, Easley, Weeden and Worthington will be handy


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Anonymous
Last year
14:08 14 Jan 16

Reply #573409

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wow.. what a name. Has easley been confirmed for slammers? Thought that was crap?


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SBLWA
Last year
14:19 14 Jan 16

Reply #573412

re: 2016 WA SBL

In light of recent announcements expect changes when the next SBL rankings are released.

He announced it himself so I'd say its real.

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Anonomouse
Last year
14:55 14 Jan 16

Reply #573413

re: 2016 WA SBL

If you were the real SBL you'd know these things as they must lodge contracts with you in advance of signings being announced.


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SBLWA
Last year
15:00 14 Jan 16

Reply #573416

re: 2016 WA SBL

We find out all information through word of mouth.

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Anonymous
Last year
15:07 14 Jan 16

Reply #573417

re: 2016 WA SBL

This is the kind of crap that will get this thread locked.


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Get Voekel
Last year
15:12 14 Jan 16

Reply #573418

re: 2016 WA SBL

It has a copyright mate its the real deal.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:25 14 Jan 16

Reply #573425

re: 2016 WA SBL

It would want to be legit or someone will be hearing from BWA legal reps about being sued.


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Downtown
Last year
16:26 14 Jan 16

Reply #573427

re: 2016 WA SBL

Im suprised with practically 4 imports, including one of the best players in the league in Nicholls that Slammers are predicted to finish 10th?

Also Kal i think have been underrated.


My prediction

1. Joondalup
2. Goldfields
3. Cockburn
4. Slammers
5. Willetton
6. Geraldton
7. Perry Lakes
8. Rockingham
9. Stirling
10. Lakeside
11. Perth
12. Mandurah
13. East Perth
14. Kalamunda


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Anonymous
Last year
16:37 14 Jan 16

Reply #573428

re: 2016 WA SBL

Sure Goldfields are being underrated they always are, but their issue has been depth. I don't think losing Bowie helps that as it will be tough for the replacement import to be as good as he was. They lost Muo aswell and as far as announced have only replaced him with D. Goodluck. Lucky is a good pickup but after seeing him play I don't think he's anything near what Muo produced.


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Anonymouse
Last year
16:48 14 Jan 16

Reply #573431

re: 2016 WA SBL

If you're including Easly as an import, they really only have 3 1/2 imports. He won't help Slammers like he didn't help Perry, E P or Willeton. another 1 year stay with people who won't like playing with him.
Really hard to predict any teams except Joondalup until we see their imports play. One or two guys can really make a big difference to teams that seem ordinary if they fit the system and the locals like playing with them.


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Downtown
Last year
17:23 14 Jan 16

Reply #573437

re: 2016 WA SBL

Goldfields have Franich returning to the line up and also picked up Nikora from Redbacks in addition to Goodluck.

Sure losing Bowie and Muo are two big losses but replacing with Manigault, Franich, Goodluck and Nikora is decent.


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SBLWA
Last year
17:24 14 Jan 16

Reply #573438

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thats pretty negative, no need to attack the guys character. Please play nice everyone.
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Anonomouse
Last year
18:17 14 Jan 16

Reply #573442

re: 2016 WA SBL

Stop pretending to represent the SBL then.


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SBLWA
Last year
18:46 14 Jan 16

Reply #573447

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pretend?
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Anonomouse
Last year
19:44 14 Jan 16

Reply #573450

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yes Josh, you are pretending


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SBLWA
Last year
12:34 15 Jan 16

Reply #573510

re: 2016 WA SBL

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Anonymous
Last year
12:37 15 Jan 16

Reply #573512

re: 2016 WA SBL

Bit rough questioning Vinci's work ethic - the kids a gym rat.
Attitude has been the problem and it has improved each season.


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:59 15 Jan 16

Reply #573514

re: 2016 WA SBL

Vinci is too absorbed in trying to look like some sort of Fremantle king of the street. Until he gives up that sad attitude he'll linger as a could have been.

Stirling announce they have signed Corbyn Wroe.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:14 15 Jan 16

Reply #573521

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mmm looks fairly out of shape for a gym rat.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:07 15 Jan 16

Reply #573527

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is there any word out of Redbacks and East Perth?

Lacko was on here months ago spouting about announcing new recruits in the coming weeks..


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Anonymous
Last year
15:45 15 Jan 16

Reply #573528

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lacko has signed the Hale school 1st and 2nd teams to SBL contracts. Just finished negotiating transfer fees for their junior clubs.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:04 15 Jan 16

Reply #573529

re: 2016 WA SBL

is that true?


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Mark Cain
Last year
18:44 15 Jan 16

Reply #573543

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any people looking to cut hair and make a small amount of money?

I love boys.


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Downtown
Last year
13:46 18 Jan 16

Reply #573819

re: 2016 WA SBL

I heard State 20s beat Wolves in a scratch match yesterday?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:04 18 Jan 16

Reply #573823

re: 2016 WA SBL

I have no idea but they probably did. Wolves will be just getting back into shape and down a few players most likely.

Any chances Hire suits up this year after getting reduced minutes this year/injury?


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interested
Last year
14:15 18 Jan 16

Reply #573824

re: 2016 WA SBL

It would surprise me to hear that the U20 beat the Wolves as they have been getting smashed in most of their other practice matches. It obviously depends on who the Wolves put out on the court.

I will be interested to see how Maxwell goes at Wolves if he returns as suggested. I thought he was a really tough player coming off the bench for them.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:29 18 Jan 16

Reply #573836

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wolves may have suited up their whole team but I doubt anyone of significance would have had a proper run. Just let the division 1 and under 18 players have a run and see what they can do. Maxwell is also a handy snowboarder from what I hear


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Anonymous
Last year
16:36 18 Jan 16

Reply #573837

re: 2016 WA SBL

Anyone hear of Brian Carlwell signing anywhere?
Rumour has it he was floating around Cockburn recently in pretty good shape...


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Anonymous
Last year
16:41 18 Jan 16

Reply #573839

re: 2016 WA SBL

Believe that when I see it!

Is Matacz going round again?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:06 18 Jan 16

Reply #573846

re: 2016 WA SBL

20's smashed the Wolves.
Grand final hangover s still there


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Anonymous
Last year
18:42 18 Jan 16

Reply #573857

re: 2016 WA SBL

Watch out for Carlwell at Perry Lakes.


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kjg
Last year
12:08 19 Jan 16

Reply #573979

re: 2016 WA SBL

womans 2016 predictions
willo
perth
flames
hawks
wolves
lakeside
stirling
cockburn
east perth
eastern suns
magic
slammers


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Downtown
Last year
13:13 19 Jan 16

Reply #574006

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wolves rumored to have Rhys Smyth and Reece Maxwell returning to the fold.

With a 2015 championship back court of Questel, Illiadis and Salinas with Ironmonger and Wellsteed coming off the bench, what would this do for these 2 young emerging guys off the bench?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:42 19 Jan 16

Reply #574016

re: 2016 WA SBL

It would reduce their minutes for sure. Ironmonger is ready for significant minutes but Wellsteed probably needs another year at D league.

Not sure why PL would be going after Carwell, didn't they learn from the 7 footer experiment last year?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:04 19 Jan 16

Reply #574025

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tommy "" t train "" remmerswall and exciting u-20 state member and Kalgoorlie lad sam julitz to join Mandurah magic.


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interested
Last year
14:46 19 Jan 16

Reply #574033

re: 2016 WA SBL

Solid (literally...) front court with Big Ben Smith, Mully, and Remmers if they are all at Mandurah.

Remmers will be good replacement for Della.

Magic would need to get an athletic 2/3 man otherwise they may be a bit slow to cover some teams.

Wolves just ridiculously talented. Etteridge must be good in managing expectations and egos.

The rumours will be replaced by facts soon with teams starting to play practice games and the Blitz just around the corner.


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kjg
Last year
15:22 19 Jan 16

Reply #574042

re: 2016 WA SBL

WOMEN 2016
1. TIGERS lose wallbutton and kenneddy and antonio,
Will probably gain a lynx player.will be hungry.
2. PERTH Gain wallbutton,mercer,gillmore,ajay jones,bianca donovan,
Retain hayward, jakens and Osulivan. say no more.
3.Flames gain Kennedy and pether,garvin late back,sami whitcome 3 championships plus league mvps, will win mvp in wnbl, needs to cash in at seabl nothing to prove hear.
4.HAWKS GAIN doccy instantly makes any team better,with an imoport will improve heaps.
5.WOLVES big loss with mercer,may lose a couple of others, new coach, always tough.
6. LAKESIDE lose pether, new coach, 2 imports,no injuries will improve.
7. STIRLING new coach, new import, need a point guard,will be more than competitive.


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kjg
Last year
15:56 19 Jan 16

Reply #574047

re: 2016 WA SBL

WOMAN 2016 CONT;
8. COCKBURN new coach and import, not much else will need a 2nd import.
9.EAGLES Dont appear to lose anyone, great coach but if they dont recruit,much the same as last year.
10. SUNS. new coach, lose a couple of players to college, will need 2 really good imports,but will struggle early.
11. MAGIC. Milo back,but will lose a couple and if no import not even coach of the year will save them.
12. SLAMMERS Lose donovan apparently no imports, will struggle.


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Downtown
Last year
16:25 19 Jan 16

Reply #574050

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jackson
Import
Rimmers
Smith
Mully

thats a tough starting 5 for Magic.

If Mully was classed as a local this year, which is what Im hearing then the addition of another import to this list would make them real tough.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:07 19 Jan 16

Reply #574065

re: 2016 WA SBL

They would be extremely big, but not sure it would work out as a great lineup. Running Remmers at the 3 would be tough. Most SF would get past him in one step.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:13 19 Jan 16

Reply #574066

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mandurah dont have a lot of depth either, Florance is too inconsistent, is B Della going around again?


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Really
Last year
17:17 19 Jan 16

Reply #574067

re: 2016 WA SBL

If they got an import 2 and import 3 then had remmers and florance off bench then they would be real tough


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Anonymous
Last year
18:20 19 Jan 16

Reply #574073

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is balcombe playing this year?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:27 19 Jan 16

Reply #574087

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rumours - Balcombe at Willeton and Florence not at Magic.
Where will Magic get the money for three or four imports?


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Anonymous
Last year
09:54 20 Jan 16

Reply #574117

re: 2016 WA SBL

three or four imports?


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really
Last year
10:23 20 Jan 16

Reply #574119

re: 2016 WA SBL

Think Anon is confused with all the numbers.

A line up of
1- Jackson
2 - Import (like McDowell)
3 - Import (like Swing)
4 - Ben Smith
5 - Mully

Bench
- Remmers
- Florance
- Locals

That lineup would challenge Wolves


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Anonymous
Last year
10:45 20 Jan 16

Reply #574123

re: 2016 WA SBL

1. They probably don't have the $ to get two imports of that quality.
2. They likely had to pay Remmers and Smith to move/stay at Magic. Smith talked to a few clubs and wanted the same money or more to move from Mandurah.
3. How much depth behind those two on the bench? Injuries etc.

No way they challenge Wolves.


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Chop Shop
Last year
11:39 20 Jan 16

Reply #574129

re: 2016 WA SBL

agree with above.
No money to secure that calibre of import & they'll be lucky to compete for an spot in the 8 let alone


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Anonymous
Last year
11:52 20 Jan 16

Reply #574130

re: 2016 WA SBL

No import for the ladies team at Magic?


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really
Last year
11:56 20 Jan 16

Reply #574131

re: 2016 WA SBL

Both McDowell and Swing came virtually out of college so would likely have come on the minimum to start with (no chance of getting them back to SBL now even if you throw cash at them).

They were just used as examples of the type of players that they should be looking at.

At this stage, on paper, they will def compete for top 8. But all will unfold in a couple weeks as the actual teams are known.

I'm sure there will be a few surprises but probably no where near the player movement as has been suggested on this forum over the past months.


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Downtown
Last year
12:27 20 Jan 16

Reply #574132

re: 2016 WA SBL

Its funny how people think because a guy is dominant in the league they must be getting paid more money than other imports.

Plenty of examples of guys over the last few seasons who came either right out of college or early in their careers either on work visas or base minimum.

Anthony Lee
Lee Roberts
Quinn McDowell
Jordan Swing
Trey Nicholls
Brian Voelkel

If you recruit right it doesnt have to break the bank. Heck, if any combination of those guys above were on that Magic list around Smith, Mully, Jackson and Rimmers Id say they are contenders to win the whole thing.


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:31 20 Jan 16

Reply #574133

re: 2016 WA SBL

The SBL has long been known as a development league for American players.

They come out here, throw up big/impressive or improved numbers in order to secure a better job elsewhere.

Only a few generally go onto greener or better pastures & maintain a long & healthy career. While the rest return home & slowly but surely fade into obscurity once again or generally find their way back to the SBL.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:13 20 Jan 16

Reply #574138

re: 2016 WA SBL

Straight of college automatically makes them on base minimum? Lakeside always pay their imports well hence the ability to consistently obtain great talent.

Swing was also in the NBA D league and the Canadian National league before the SBL.


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Chop Shop
Last year
13:35 20 Jan 16

Reply #574144

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jordan Swing is an excellent example (& for the record he is a good player).

Not a huge stand out prospect at UAB. Had two solid seasons averaging 11 & 13.9ppg respectively before his final season dipped off to 5.6ppg.

Comes out to SBL & throws up near 30ppg, looks impressive & even has people talking that the wildcats should give him a look.

Goes to D-league where he averages a measly 4ppg & in his 3 euro league games he is averaging a whole 2ppg.

SBL = American development league.


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Downtown
Last year
13:57 20 Jan 16

Reply #574148

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nobody said if they were straight out of college it automatically means they are on base minimum. But it shows with these guys that you CAN get them here on that amount.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:45 20 Jan 16

Reply #574152

re: 2016 WA SBL

I get what you're saying. Smart recruiting is more important than what you can pay the import.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:05 20 Jan 16

Reply #574171

re: 2016 WA SBL

Carlwell signs at perry lakes confirmed


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Chop Shop
Last year
11:21 21 Jan 16

Reply #574255

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cody Ellis return to Stirling made official via Stirling website.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:54 21 Jan 16

Reply #574262

re: 2016 WA SBL

Carwell was fairly dominant back in 2012 but not sure how he fits in with PL with his size and fitness/speed. They play such a frantic pace.

Ellis is good for Stirling but it means they can't get two imports.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:09 21 Jan 16

Reply #574264

re: 2016 WA SBL

slammers and Mandurah women will both have 1 import I think both will need some help from what im hearing however. there has been no-one saying anything. they don't have any ties to the lynx or other power clubs in the SBL so I don't think anyone really cares. slammers have lost a few including Donovan. Mandurah have lost 7-8 girls I believe including both Sidebottoms to flames , smith to suns. anyway good luck to them . 3 peat coming up.


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swish
Last year
12:34 21 Jan 16

Reply #574266

re: 2016 WA SBL

Do any of the womens teams actually have a chance of beating Rockingham? They sound loaded.


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Downtown
Last year
14:06 21 Jan 16

Reply #574277

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who would win a 1 on 1 game between Brian Carlwell and Jason Ring?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:31 21 Jan 16

Reply #574282

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who would win in a fight between a grilled cheese and a taco?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:02 21 Jan 16

Reply #574286

re: 2016 WA SBL

there will be teams to challenge them . it depends on who and where some of the eastern state lynx girls play. barr,mijovic,wischer,chilcott,lavey and if burton plays.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:10 21 Jan 16

Reply #574287

re: 2016 WA SBL

Barr, Wischer and Chilcott are mediocre, they wont have a huge impact at SBL level. I doubt Lavey and Burton will play SBL with Rio coming up


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Balcz
Last year
16:21 21 Jan 16

Reply #574292

re: 2016 WA SBL

Balcombe confirmed at Willo. Bringing the homie Nikola Donlagic with me.

Will be like Sapphire Bar on Friday nights all over again.


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Downtown
Last year
18:53 21 Jan 16

Reply #574307

re: 2016 WA SBL

Armour, Scott, Bowie, Cody, Jervis?/Import
Black, Dongalic and Balcombe is a pretty decent roster


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Lukosius
Last year
19:27 21 Jan 16

Reply #574312

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis and Hire will be restricted. Official 'NBL Restricted Player List' came out today.

Hire would be 'unrestricted' once he plays 150 games with the Wolves. He's on around 120 at the moment so a while to go.

As far as the Lynx are concerned, the following are 'restricted':
Lavey
Whitcomb
Laney
Tomlinson
Burton
Mijovic
Edmondson

All the rest are unrestricted.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:30 22 Jan 16

Reply #574449

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis has hit the 150 mark hasn't he? With the eagles?

Has he been rumored to move?


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Lukosius
Last year
13:37 22 Jan 16

Reply #574450

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nope. He's on around 100 with EP.


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Chop Shop
Last year
13:54 22 Jan 16

Reply #574456

re: 2016 WA SBL

Word around town was Willo enquired about his services...& with no Adam Forde at EP this year I guess there is no real allegiance to them.

Will Michael Vigor be returning to Perth?


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really
Last year
14:06 22 Jan 16

Reply #574458

re: 2016 WA SBL

Armour, Scott, Bowie, Cody, Jervis?/Import
Black, Dongalic and Balcombe is a pretty decent roster

add Josh Johnson to that as well.

Interesting that 4 of those players have played at Eagles with 3 of them being long term EP.

Not sure that will be the Willo lineup but with 5 of the 9 being non-willo and Armour a bit of journeyman, there is a definite change in approach here.

Without any negative to that program, it is interesting that a club with the dominance in juniors had to recruit Eagles players to compete for championship.

Why is this?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:47 22 Jan 16

Reply #574465

re: 2016 WA SBL

Every year there are teams that seem to be stacked but when they hit the court can just never pull it together

Willo/Redbacks last year are good examples.


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splash bro
Last year
14:51 22 Jan 16

Reply #574467

re: 2016 WA SBL

Johnson is a good guy off the bench for them provided he can stay healthy. Can also add Mitch Clarke to that bench list.

Even if Dongalic was not to join and they just got Balcombe its a very different approach to when Foster was coach.

Interesting hearing Corey Shervill is now at Lakeside who was probably one of their best juniors coming through. You would think he could have played a bench role for them in SBL this year?

Not sure on the motivation behind recruiting EP players, maybe with Armour having played there is some connection?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:36 22 Jan 16

Reply #574477

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hearing Shervill impressing at Lakeside training.

Matt Vinci from Cockburn has trained with Lakeside.


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Anon
Last year
16:49 22 Jan 16

Reply #574490

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis has played just over 150 games with EP, he started off restricted but was no longer restricted during their championship season. Only played one game last season, and was unrestricted then. But is looking for more money this season.
Donlagic staying with East Perth, playing alongside his younger brother Andrej.
Chudier Pal also a strong chance to suit up for Eagles after being spotted with Forde at Wildcats. Forde still involved at club behind the scenes.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:04 22 Jan 16

Reply #574493

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah I thought that was wrong from Lukos above, doubt it's the real.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:28 22 Jan 16

Reply #574495

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hire has played 143 games for the Wolves I believe.
Happy to be corrected Lukosious?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:29 22 Jan 16

Reply #574496

re: 2016 WA SBL

if chaudier paul is to go to east perth, rockingham are in a world of pain. I think their coach has sat on his hands way too long. unless he is going to pull a rabbit out of the hat. they may go down as the smallest team in the history of the SBL.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:32 22 Jan 16

Reply #574497

re: 2016 WA SBL

Knowing Mark, he's not a fan of hats...


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Lukosius
Last year
00:57 24 Jan 16

Reply #574660

re: 2016 WA SBL

Games Played

Greg Hire:
2005 - 17
2006 - 26
2007 - 12
2008 - 10
2009 - 11
2010 - 18
2011 - 29
2012 - 15
Total - 138 (all with the Wolves)


Tom Jervis:
2005 - 20 (Eagles)
2006 - 3 (Redbacks)
2009 - 8 (Eagles)
2010 - 25 (Eagles)
2011 - 28 (Eagles)
2012 - 31 (Eagles)
2013 - 29 (Eagles)
2014 - 15 (Eagles)
2015 - 1 (Eagles)
Total - 160 (157 with Eagles, 3 with Redbacks)

Therefore Hire is still restricted but Jervis is unrestricted if he plays for East Perth.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:08 25 Jan 16

Reply #574750

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wolves don't really need two imports so basically leaves it up to Hire to rejoin the team if he wants.

Jervis is more interesting, could probably get a lot more $ by leaving and taking a restricted spot at another club. But if he stays at eagles and they get two tough imports automatically makes them very good.


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interested
Last year
14:53 25 Jan 16

Reply #574754

re: 2016 WA SBL

What is the Wildcats view on their players being in the SBL? It seems like there have been less Wildcats in the last couple of seasons. Is that a directive from the Wildcats or is it more of a decision from the players themselves.

Jervis makes nearly any team a legit title contender if he moves to them. Against the Redbacks a couple of seasons ago in the finals, both Roberts and Stan were clearly worried about his shot blocking ability and also the zone... His presence on court is massive in SBL.

If Hire plays for Wolves then they will surely have some serious problems with minutes. Hire, Seb, Trian, Huntington, Damo, Questel, Davis (import?), Ironmonger all competing for the 240 minutes.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:29 25 Jan 16

Reply #574761

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not sure, but if Hire does play for the Wolves may as well hand them the championship and go on holiday.


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Just Sayin'
Last year
17:25 25 Jan 16

Reply #574772

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lukosias, I'm not sure of the rules but surely Hire hasn't played enough minutes over the last two years to be classed as restricted??


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Anonymous
Last year
17:35 25 Jan 16

Reply #574773

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah he has. He only has to average 10 mins a game to be classed as restricted.


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Lukosius
Last year
17:35 25 Jan 16

Reply #574774

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yep he has.

This NBL season, and up until last week, he has played 287mins in 22 games (13mins per game) which takes him over the limit of 10mins per game.

He is on the official "Restricted Player List" which was released by the NBL last week.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:43 25 Jan 16

Reply #574818

re: 2016 WA SBL

Timms is in Texas.


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fan
Last year
12:05 26 Jan 16

Reply #574838

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis does turn any team in this league into a contender, he is the best shot blocker in the nbl so that speaks for itself.

Just an extra to interested comments- that year against Perth in the semi's both Stan and Lee were greatly restricted by the archaic 80's style post oriented offense they used. I respect coach Lackovic as I believe he has done some great things for the league, including some great imports being bought over. However running a post offense vs a height/ size disadvantage is ridiculous. And the Iowa zone offense is no better in that respect, it is no surprise the Redbacks are getting zoned constantly these days.


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splash bro
Last year
13:44 27 Jan 16

Reply #574909

re: 2016 WA SBL

I do also recall the refs putting the whistles away a lot of the times Stan and Lee took the ball to the basket against Jervis. But thats where teams need to be able to adjust and go to other looks. It seemed like they were unable to do that in that series.

Not sure on why there havent been as many Wildcats guys in the SBL over recent years but one thing that is apparent is that the standard of the league drops without them there.

Going back to around 2009 and 2010 the league saw Jesse Wagstaff, Stephen Weigh, Cam Tovey, Daniel Johnson, Sam Harris, Paul Rogers, Damian Martin (a few games), Matt Knight (a few games), Greg Hire, Brad Robbins, Alex Loughton, Jeff Dowdell all playing in the SBL. Throwing in decent imports around these guys saw the standard go through the roof.


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Chop Shop
Last year
15:35 27 Jan 16

Reply #574919

re: 2016 WA SBL

Because Nick Marvin & co don't want their key investments risking injury over the off-season.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:39 27 Jan 16

Reply #574920

re: 2016 WA SBL

^Guessing why? Or do you know for sure that they have been told they cannot play in the SBL.


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JJohnson
Last year
15:49 27 Jan 16

Reply #574921

re: 2016 WA SBL

I have the worst beard in the SBL.

I am white.


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Lukosius
Last year
18:10 27 Jan 16

Reply #574927

re: 2016 WA SBL

Magic will probably still have trouble this year, pretty much all rests on the import swing man

There is no incentive for established nbl players on longer contracts to play in the SBL. Especially with limited payments available in the metro area.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:33 27 Jan 16

Reply #574930

re: 2016 WA SBL

So imports confirmed so far?

Cockburn:
Najee Lane returning
Marcus Goode

East Perth Eagles:
?

Geraldton Buccs
Carter Cook returning
Maurice Barrow

Goldfields
Kenny Manigault
Jacob Holmen returning

Joondalup
Kevin Davis returning

Kalamunda Suns
Brandon McGill

Lakeside
Daniel Alexander
TJ Hallice

Mandurah Magic
?

Perry lakes
Bryton Hobbs returning
Brian Carwell??

Perth
??

Flames
??

South west
Royal Crouch
Tre Nichols returning

Stirling Senators
Kyle Lindbergh returning

Willeton
Jay Bowie

Fill in the blanks?





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Chop Shop
Last year
19:17 27 Jan 16

Reply #574933

re: 2016 WA SBL

Eastern Suns:
Jacopo Marsili

Perth Redbacks:
Reed McConnell
Jourdan Demuynck


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Anonymous
Last year
19:24 27 Jan 16

Reply #574934

re: 2016 WA SBL

Chop Shop you idiot

east perth not eastern suns

http://www.perugiabasket.com/news/383159814/the-down-under-dream-by-jacopo-marsili


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Downtown
Last year
19:31 27 Jan 16

Reply #574935

re: 2016 WA SBL

Flames have Land bros back


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Greeny
Last year
09:53 28 Jan 16

Reply #574989

re: 2016 WA SBL

AJ Mastro to Stirling
Edmondson to lady hawks


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Anonymous
Last year
10:57 28 Jan 16

Reply #574996

re: 2016 WA SBL

Awesome, more Mastrovich bs


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Lukosius
Last year
11:13 28 Jan 16

Reply #574999

re: 2016 WA SBL

Apparently the Land's power is alot like Samson, although in this case it lies in their rats tails rather than the entire scalp.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:29 28 Jan 16

Reply #575001

re: 2016 WA SBL

I'm not sure why they want to get T. Land back. I imagine it's a package type of deal with the brothers. He's a great PG and very solid defensively but he really hasn't got much to offer offensively.


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Greeny
Last year
11:49 28 Jan 16

Reply #575003

re: 2016 WA SBL

"Awesome, more Mastrovich bs"

He's signed, been at training but has an out clause if he to NZNBL.
Stirling will be strong, so the race for second spot behind Wolves looks good.


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???
Last year
11:55 28 Jan 16

Reply #575004

re: 2016 WA SBL

Did he play in the NZNBL last season? Is that classified on the restricted leagues, therefore restricted player?


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Lukosius
Last year
12:24 28 Jan 16

Reply #575006

re: 2016 WA SBL

It is not. And he did, he started for one of the south island teams. I think they are called the South Island Team Maoris or something from memory.


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Downtown
Last year
13:53 28 Jan 16

Reply #575018

re: 2016 WA SBL

So if the above is true, Stirling would have a roster somewhat like this:

Nic Illiadis
Austin Bruton
Josh Throns
Corban Wroe
Tom Witts
Cody Ellis
Kyle Lindbergh
Adrian Majstrovich
Ryan Woodbury
Ash Litterick
Jayden Coburn
Caleb Davis

Thats a tough 12 with good balance across the board and a good mix of veterans and younger talent.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:30 28 Jan 16

Reply #575023

re: 2016 WA SBL

Who plays the three? Mastro is getting older and probably can't, Lindbergh might be the sensible option but he can't really shoot threes and Ellis can shoot but will get killed trying to defend the three.


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??
Last year
15:21 28 Jan 16

Reply #575029

re: 2016 WA SBL

Firstly, I don't think Ellis gets killed at sbl level. Most of the guys he is guarding now would be quicker and more skilled than anyone playing the 3 in sbl.
Then u have throns, coburn, Woodbury and even Caleb Davis who could play the 3.
I'm sure mike Ellis will know how to best play his roster to cover, might play a lot of zone, then they would at least beat the Redbacks right.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:49 28 Jan 16

Reply #575032

re: 2016 WA SBL

both stirling and Cockburn have been dealt the kiss of death this season good luck.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:19 28 Jan 16

Reply #575037

re: 2016 WA SBL

What does that even mean?


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Chop Shop
Last year
10:57 29 Jan 16

Reply #575136

re: 2016 WA SBL

That the teams were kissed.
Possibly of the venomous variety.

Now they have a genuine risk of dying unless they seek appropriate medical treatment as soon as possible.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:59 29 Jan 16

Reply #575137

re: 2016 WA SBL

So nothing then. Moving on.


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Chop Shop
Last year
11:30 29 Jan 16

Reply #575145

re: 2016 WA SBL

Ive never been kissed


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Chop Shop
Last year
11:59 29 Jan 16

Reply #575146

re: 2016 WA SBL

^^ the troll is back.

Probably the same guy using the Lukosius name as well.


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:21 29 Jan 16

Reply #575148

re: 2016 WA SBL

Im just so bloody sick of it guys because like I work really really hard to be a douchebag on this anonymous forum, crafting a username that is just mine, for some troll to come along and use the very same technique I've adopted against me... is just... well... its just...annoying hey.


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Chop Shop
Last year
12:57 29 Jan 16

Reply #575151

re: 2016 WA SBL

^
sigh. really.


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splash bro
Last year
13:24 29 Jan 16

Reply #575155

re: 2016 WA SBL

Has Matt Vinci moved to Lakeside?


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???
Last year
13:38 29 Jan 16

Reply #575157

re: 2016 WA SBL

If that is correct about Matt Vinci, then Lakeside have done a pretty good job in attracting some high quality juniors.
Corey Shervill
Matt Selby
Michael Garbellini
Frank Johnson
Matt Vinci?

All state players and 3 of them in this years U20 state team.


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Chop Shop
Last year
13:42 29 Jan 16

Reply #575158

re: 2016 WA SBL

Good coaches, experience and the potential for opportunity, makes sense really.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:49 29 Jan 16

Reply #575159

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-5011-0-0-0&sID=78732&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=40241652

Nice "where are they now" article posted to the SBL website by Adam Forde. I think it proves the league has been and can continue to be a good launching pad for import players. Clubs should really push this point in their recruiting drives.

The league needs more quality, well researched journalism like this from people who actually know the games as opposed to some of the dribble we see in the game recaps etc.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:06 29 Jan 16

Reply #575161

re: 2016 WA SBL

agreed, was great by adam, lots of spelling errors but any quality content like this is awesome for the league. Still trying to figure out what BWA do


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Red74
Last year
15:00 29 Jan 16

Reply #575168

re: 2016 WA SBL

Carwell to Hawks confirmed on page today


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Anonymous
Last year
15:06 29 Jan 16

Reply #575169

re: 2016 WA SBL

Good for the league as he was dominant back in 2012. Hopefully he can work his way back into shape.


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Make Em Say Uh
Last year
15:22 29 Jan 16

Reply #575171

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well researched?
Read like it was straight off a Draft Express page with some words thrown in to me.

Credit in remembering some old names though.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:30 29 Jan 16

Reply #575172

re: 2016 WA SBL

Without knowing them all personally how could an article like that have more detail? Why are you complaining? Did you get cut from EP a couple years ago?


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splash bro
Last year
15:33 29 Jan 16

Reply #575174

re: 2016 WA SBL

good read from Adam and does give some insight into the calibre of some of the players we actually can attract here and as the discussion suggested earlier on generally at the beginning of their pro careers.

Id love to read a round 2 of this concept and hear where guys like Quinn McDowell, Brad Tinsley and Anthony Lee went onto play.


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???
Last year
15:35 29 Jan 16

Reply #575175

re: 2016 WA SBL

It would be good to see the key stats for each as well PPG/MPG/RBG


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Anonymous
Last year
15:45 29 Jan 16

Reply #575176

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tinsley was crazy to watch. Dude looked like a high school maths teacher and still dominated.

On July 29, 2015, he signed a one-year deal with FC Porto of the Liga Portuguesa de Basquetebol


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Anonymous
Last year
22:45 29 Jan 16

Reply #575255

re: 2016 WA SBL

Just spoke to a well known SBL Redbacks personality at the Cats game frothing to tell me Mike Vigor is back for them this year.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:43 1 Feb 16

Reply #575565

re: 2016 WA SBL

They're going to need him...!


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splash bro
Last year
15:46 1 Feb 16

Reply #575621

re: 2016 WA SBL

So has the mass exodus at Redbacks that everyone was so adamant was going to happen actually taken place?

So far their roster looks like
Joel Wagner
Jack Wagner
Ben Smith
Lewis Thomas
Mike Vigor
Imports x 2
Jameson Lewis

Im only aware of Nikora and Prior departing for Goldfields and Suns respectively.
Are Dennis and Zach playing for them?


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interested
Last year
15:57 1 Feb 16

Reply #575623

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yeah it may have been a little blown up in regards to mass exodus...

It is always likely that the imports will turn over, although Turner is probably someone that you would like to keep.

Prior wasn't really a part of their team last season anyway.

Losing Dennis would be a big lose, but the others were essentially role players who didn't really have a significant part of the rotation.

If they do add Vigor and Thomas then that would more than cover any losses.


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Blockah
Last year
19:06 1 Feb 16

Reply #575664

re: 2016 WA SBL

Sounds like no bigs then at the Reds this year.
Cant picture Thomas playing the 5.
Vigor an unknown as to when he will arrive.
No Tawhiti & Makavilitongia.
The two imports are perimeter players.

Who fills the big spots? Its a team of swingmen & guards that all play the same roles.


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solomon grundy
Last year
19:11 1 Feb 16

Reply #575665

re: 2016 WA SBL

http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/38908-new-post/?a=165

If anyones interested some ideas for the blitz


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Downtown
Last year
19:15 1 Feb 16

Reply #575667

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well if Vigor returns he is a big and can play the 5. Thomas is a stretch 4 but still classed as a big. That said with Dennis and Zac no longer there they are one decent big short to come off the bench.

Maybe after being so post focused last year with Turner there, Lako is going for a smaller, more mobile lineup and perhaps a different game style?

Playing a faster pace may make it a little harder for teams to zone them as much?


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Blockah
Last year
19:22 1 Feb 16

Reply #575668

re: 2016 WA SBL

Word around is Lako hasn't even been at training the last couple of weeks? Is he still coaching?


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Downtown
Last year
17:57 2 Feb 16

Reply #575807

re: 2016 WA SBL

So according to Blokah
Redbacks have no bigs and no coach?

might be 0-2 right off the bat


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Blockah
Last year
18:02 2 Feb 16

Reply #575808

re: 2016 WA SBL

I didnt say they had no coach, but have heard he has been MIA?
Feel free to correct me


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splash bro
Last year
12:52 4 Feb 16

Reply #576109

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nebo Franich spotted at Flames training


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interested
Last year
13:08 4 Feb 16

Reply #576111

re: 2016 WA SBL

Is Trav Moore still playing for Flames?

Franich must be to cover the loss of Remmers to Magic.


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Inside Sauce
Last year
13:37 4 Feb 16

Reply #576115

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thats a mobile/athletic front court, moore and franich

narrrrt


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splash bro
Last year
17:52 4 Feb 16

Reply #576161

re: 2016 WA SBL

Franich is pretty athletic these days. Maybe not in a speed sense but can jump pretty well off 2 feet


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daddy
Last year
18:31 4 Feb 16

Reply #576165

re: 2016 WA SBL

So as long as no one moves we good


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Anonymous
Last year
16:46 5 Feb 16

Reply #576312

re: 2016 WA SBL

why so quiet?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:38 5 Feb 16

Reply #576322

re: 2016 WA SBL

with jake burston and hayden noordehoek no longer in the league there is little to talk about


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Anonymous
Last year
18:07 5 Feb 16

Reply #576330

re: 2016 WA SBL

Will Nic Cody still be able to play with all the tears?


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tasty source
Last year
18:43 5 Feb 16

Reply #576333

re: 2016 WA SBL

I have heard from Cody himself that he actually uses the tears for fuel and although tired from his travels, (did a range of basketball individuals and demonstations up and down the Thailand coast for charity), is ready for a big BIG season.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:48 5 Feb 16

Reply #576334

re: 2016 WA SBL

You are Cody. All these posts are


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Anonymous
Last year
17:38 9 Feb 16

Reply #576865

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mandurah's new import announced - Trevor Setty. 6 ft 8 swingman, played in Europe for the past couple of years. Looks like another Hafford


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Anonymous
Last year
17:46 9 Feb 16

Reply #576867

re: 2016 WA SBL

Probably be a little better than Hafford. Looks like a poor mans J. Swing.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:26 9 Feb 16

Reply #576875

re: 2016 WA SBL

Very Sad to hear of the passing of Vivienne Austin an Icon of Cockburn Basketball .Viv was the "lady on the door" for many years at SBL, WABL and Domestic basketball . We will all miss this cheerful lady Deepest sympathy to her boys Glen and Ryan and to her Basketball family


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Anonymous
Last year
11:49 10 Feb 16

Reply #576909

re: 2016 WA SBL

Kalamunda announce import signings... going to be another really tough year for them.
Do they have anyone over 6ft 2"???


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Anonymous
Last year
12:05 10 Feb 16

Reply #576912

re: 2016 WA SBL

The Euro guy is the same import that signed for the Eagles last year then disappeared after 3-4 games?


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Lukosius
Last year
15:52 10 Feb 16

Reply #576956

re: 2016 WA SBL

Nope, that was Stefano Simeoli


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Anonymous
Last year
17:32 10 Feb 16

Reply #576963

re: 2016 WA SBL

how many Europeans have played in the state league . I think its fascinating to see how kalamundas import will line up.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:41 10 Feb 16

Reply #576969

re: 2016 WA SBL

i think it will be fascinating to see how kalamunda go period!


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Anonymous
Last year
20:02 10 Feb 16

Reply #576995

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wolfs have signed Kevin and Bobby Davis. Brothers?


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Wiggons
Last year
16:36 11 Feb 16

Reply #577134

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any teams pursuing the possibility of Jarrod Kenny at all?


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Anonymous
Last year
16:41 11 Feb 16

Reply #577140

re: 2016 WA SBL

Interesting another Davis for the Wolfpack. Any info about this dude, guys?


Wolfpack b2b this season let's go.


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Green88
Last year
17:35 11 Feb 16

Reply #577179

re: 2016 WA SBL

Kenny has signed with the Nelson Giants for 2016


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Wolfpack Basketball
Last year
12:55 16 Feb 16

Reply #578061

re: 2016 WA SBL

Our 2016 Imports Announced

http://www.communitynews.com.au/joondalup-times/sport/Part-of-the-Wolves-pack/7682577


Follow us on Twitter & Instagram @WolfpackSBL


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???
Last year
14:25 16 Feb 16

Reply #578080

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thanks for that WolfPack basketball.

Reading the article, it would appear Bobby Evans decided to relocate to Perth on a working holiday visa, and then Wolves came calling???

A lot of luck there or the article is slighty inaccurate and the Wolves were involved with him making the decision to come here and play.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:06 16 Feb 16

Reply #578091

re: 2016 WA SBL

I think he came here with his partner. If it's who I think it is, he's shopped himself around to several clubs.


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???
Last year
15:50 16 Feb 16

Reply #578098

re: 2016 WA SBL

So are these the imports this year:

Wolves - Kevin Davis & Bobby Evans
Willetton - Jay Bowie & ?
Magic - Mullenax & Trevor Setty
Hawks - Brian Carlwell Bryton Hobbs
Eagles - ?
Suns - Brandon McGill & Jacopo Marsili
Cougars - Marcus Goode
Buccs - Maurice Barrow & Carter Cook
Giants - Kenny "KJ" Manigault & Jacob Holmen
Lakeside - ?
Redbacks - Reed McConnell & ?
Stirling - Ellis & Kyle Lindbergh
Slammers - Tre Nichols & Royal Crouch
Flames - Taylor & Cooper Land


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Downtown
Last year
16:54 16 Feb 16

Reply #578133

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lakeside imports - TJ Hallice and Daniel Alexander


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kjg
Last year
17:09 16 Feb 16

Reply #578141

re: 2016 WA SBL

perth. jourdan demuynck


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???
Last year
08:19 17 Feb 16

Reply #578206

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lets do a pre-season grading on how the teams have gone in their recruiting (or lack of...) for the import spots.

Buccs - Maurice Barrow & Carter Cook
Have struggled to keep a 2nd import over the last couple of seasons. Barrow looks to be a solid recruit who can score and rebound. Carter is a seasoned vet who keeps getting the job done.
Grade - B

Cougars - Marcus Goode
Went with two imports last season. Unless there is another coming then they may be going with one this season. Goode is a huge man and had a good college career at a D2 college. The concern would be his conditioning and the ability to compete in the SBL which is traditionally a 'small' league and he will have to guard smaller, more mobile players.
Grade - D (if this is their only recruit)


Eagles - No comment

Giants - Kenny "KJ" Manigault & Jacob Holmen
Holmen is a proven import and numbers likely to go up this season as he knows the league. Manigault looks like an outstanding talent and being NAIA player of the year shows he can perform on the big stage.
Grade - A

Hawks - Brian Carlwell Bryton Hobbs
Hobbs really adjusted well to the league as the season went on and was a big reason for the Hawks fast finish. Rumours of unrest with his attitude must not be true if they are bringing him back. Now the Hawks are taking a big risk on Carlwell. He hasn't played for two seasons and at his size/condition there is a big risk that he gets injured. (remember their import problems last season with injury) If he stays healthy and regains the form of his last playing season then this is a good pairing.
Grade - B* (star is if Carlwell stays healthy)

Flames - Taylor & Cooper Land
Going with the same guys. No what you are getting and they have stability in roster. Expect them to get some wins early and then struggle as other teams find their groove. Sounds familiar to the last couple seasons.
Grade - C

Lakeside - TJ Hallice and Daniel Alexander
From all reports the new imports are solid without being special. Lakeside have had some of the better imports over the years so it will be interesting to see how these guys go.
Grade - C

Magic - Mullenax & Trevor Setty
Mully struggled last season based on what he has done in previous years. He is still strong down low but his mobility really hurts them on D. Now Setty, very interesting articles of him being released twice from teams in the BBL. Not sure he is the best option they could have gone with, he might improve with the support of veteran players in Smith and Mully.
Grade - D

Redbacks - Reed McConnell & Jourdan Demuynck
Not the usual high profile imports that Redbacks have recruited. Ray Turner was elite, so anything else is hard to compare. Having two solid contributers may be what Redbacks need rather than one player dominating the ball.
Grade - C

Slammers - Tre Nichols & Royal Crouch
Tre was one of the better players in SBL last season even if he did disappear in the GF. Royal Crouch just sounds like a player. A solid player at Ty's school who will be hard to guard with his athletic ability.
Grade - B

Stirling - Ellis & Kyle Lindbergh
Ellis should be better after having an improved NBL season. Lindbergh was average last season. Having Ellis as a restricted player makes it tough without being able to get that 3rd import level player.
Grade - C

Suns - Brandon McGill & Jacopo Marsili
Does the word budget come to mind. McGill was cut quickly by Cougars so there is a big ? on him. Not sure if Marsili was recruited or just happened to be in Perth.
Grade - D

Willetton - Jay Bowie & ?
Tigers have probably not made any friends with Giants after taking their import from last season, but this is mens bball so these things happen. Bowie was a big time player last season, but will likely see less of the ball this year so his production might go down although he made be more efficient. Word is that Tigers are chasing a 5 man, either Jervis or import.
Grade - C (only one import at this stage)

Wolves - Kevin Davis & Bobby Evans
So Bobby Evans just happened to be in Perth on a working holiday visa and found his way to Wolves. Doesn't really matter as they have got him. Etteridge would have done homework and reached out to contacts so expect Evans to play his role well. Davis seemed to be the perfect fit and played his role well.
Grade - B










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Anonymous
Last year
14:57 17 Feb 16

Reply #578236

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cougars have Najee Lane returning.


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Downtown
Last year
16:51 17 Feb 16

Reply #578259

re: 2016 WA SBL

Alexander from Lakeside reportedly very good.

Following Payne, Beran, Tinsley and Swing will have a lot to live up to.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:36 17 Feb 16

Reply #578260

re: 2016 WA SBL

WSBL IMPORTS-RESTRICTED
cougars- thorton
senators- land, lingbergh
flames-whitcomb, garbin
slammers- 1 import
magic 1-import
lakeside 2-imports
hawks- burton,edmondson
eagles ?
wolves- 1 import ,wischer
suns- 2 imports
redbacks- no imports going with local talent ha ha.
tigers- Tomlinson

these are only rumours I have heard on the grapevine
I think the womens comp may be a keenly contested race this yr with plenty of excitement around .
ayone got some truth about any of the above.


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Hogwash
Last year
19:09 17 Feb 16

Reply #578277

re: 2016 WA SBL

So at this stage all teams (except Eagles) have their two imports in place (Willo will 100% get a second import/NBL player).

It then makes you wonder what is happening up at Morley. Last year their big-minutes players were Dech, Williamson, Vague, Barnett & Tupaea.

Dech has gone to college (or has he, see below), Williamson is older, and Tupaea is the coach.

Nothing on their website or FB page. Are EP even going around again? If they are, they are way behind the eightball.

Or are they going to surprise everyone by signing two imports late in the process, and then adding Jervis who is now unrestricted with them.

On the subject of Sunday Dech... where's he at?
Left for college (Metro State, Mark Worthington's old college) a few months ago, but hasn't played a game. Surely he hasn't quit?


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kjg
Last year
09:18 18 Feb 16

Reply #578404

re: 2016 WA SBL

wabl imports or restricted
magic 2 imports
east perth jones and maffin?


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Sunday
Last year
16:20 18 Feb 16

Reply #578500

re: 2016 WA SBL

Sunday is red-shirting this year. Will be playing next season. Has seriously worked on his hops.


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bowtie
Last year
17:14 18 Feb 16

Reply #578518

re: 2016 WA SBL

Been trying to check the story that James Harvey will be involved in WASBL whilst on work transfer for 8 weeks, middle of 2016 season. Guess on a coaching level? The more local guys,retired from the NBL, that get involved with their State Leagues, the better.


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Farrison Hord
Last year
18:11 18 Feb 16

Reply #578532

re: 2016 WA SBL

Heard Perth & Willetton had a hit out earlier this week? Anyone see the game?


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Downtown
Last year
18:28 18 Feb 16

Reply #578536

re: 2016 WA SBL

didnt see it but apparently Redbacks won by about 10

no bowie, second import or armour for tiges

reds full strength


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Anonymous
Last year
22:22 18 Feb 16

Reply #578606

re: 2016 WA SBL

Garbin is unrestricted for Flames
Whitcomb and Cannon on the same team....


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Anonymous
Last year
10:16 19 Feb 16

Reply #578700

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thoughts on the finals structure changes??


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kjg
Last year
11:00 19 Feb 16

Reply #578714

re: 2016 WA SBL

whose cannon


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Anonymous
Last year
11:45 19 Feb 16

Reply #578735

re: 2016 WA SBL

wow that is an awesome team for the flames. give them the trophy know 3 peat coming up.$$$$$$$$$
they would win a few 3 on 3 comps with those 3 as well


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Anonymous
Last year
11:52 19 Feb 16

Reply #578739

re: 2016 WA SBL

Emma Cannon.
If true, then as strange as it sounds but Whitcomb (as a back to back League WSBL MVP and current Lynx MVP) may not even be the best player on her SBL team anymore.


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hhh
Last year
12:47 19 Feb 16

Reply #578759

re: 2016 WA SBL

if all the rumours are true about flames they will have the 2 best womans teams in the league.


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???
Last year
14:04 19 Feb 16

Reply #578789

re: 2016 WA SBL

Saw the result of the Tigers v Redbacks game.

A win is a win, but from all accounts the Reds imports not that impressive. (but this may be encouraging for Reds as they have capacity to improve)

And adding Kyle and Bowie into Tigers obviously changes things dramatically, plus another import.

More of interest would be who actually played:

Can anyone add to this:
Reds (McConnell, Demuynck, Wagner x 2, Thomas, Smith, Lewis)
Tigers (Scott, Johnson, Black, Clarke, Cody, Casey, Collins)

Any other scratch match results?


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Anonymous
Last year
14:22 19 Feb 16

Reply #578797

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cougars played Hawks yesterday. A player sustained a broken ankle but don't know who or even from which team.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:18 19 Feb 16

Reply #578846

re: 2016 WA SBL

How about finding out.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:20 19 Feb 16

Reply #578848

re: 2016 WA SBL

It was Jaarod Holmes


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Farrison Hord
Last year
11:02 23 Feb 16

Reply #579781

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hearing that Tom Jervis will be suiting for for Willetton in the second half of the season.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:32 23 Feb 16

Reply #579814

re: 2016 WA SBL

paul hafford to east perth eagles.


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???
Last year
13:37 23 Feb 16

Reply #579818

re: 2016 WA SBL

Jervis will guarantee at least an 80% win ratio for any part of the season he is available. If not more.
It will be interesting to see what his availability is if Jawai doesn't get signed by Cats for next year. If Jervis is projected to be promoted into starting 5 for cats he may not play SBL.

What is the appetite for risk from Tigers? Wait for Jervis to find out his availability changes or go with an import from day 1 and at least know he is around for the season and playoffs???

Surely Eagles could get a better import than Hafford? Even with budget constraints...


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Farrison Hord
Last year
14:04 23 Feb 16

Reply #579837

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hafford might be ok in East Perth. There is no one else on the roster who is going to take the shots.

East Perth have been MIA this off season. Who do they even have?


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Splash bro
Last year
15:53 23 Feb 16

Reply #579874

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hafford might be ok in East Perth if they want a guy who will shoot it every single time he touches it. Whether he is open or not. Whether he is 1-15 or 0-8.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:43 23 Feb 16

Reply #579936

re: 2016 WA SBL

Don't think he would get a reference from Mandurah Don't believe he will play in WA again.


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Downtown
Last year
11:47 24 Feb 16

Reply #580004

re: 2016 WA SBL

Brandon McGill surely didnt get a reference from Cockburn when they released him 5 minutes after arriving there. Still Kalamunda welcomed him with open arms.

crazier things have happened!

Hafford and Williamson seeing who can jack the most would be fun to watch on one level at least.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:07 24 Feb 16

Reply #580012

re: 2016 WA SBL

McGill was only released because Najee Lane decided he wanted to return/became available again.

Nothing to do with McGill and his character or ability.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:39 24 Feb 16

Reply #580030

re: 2016 WA SBL

hahaha and you have that on what authority?

He was released because they felt he wasnt the player he was advertised to be and on top of that had attitude problems


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Anonymous
Last year
15:27 24 Feb 16

Reply #580054

re: 2016 WA SBL

Well thats just terrible scouting by Cockburn then. He has a tonne of film online. They should have done a better job


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???
Last year
15:32 24 Feb 16

Reply #580055

re: 2016 WA SBL

From my understanding he was already in Perth before Cockburn made contact and then they signed him?

You can't tell the character of a player until they are out here and in your environment.

So disagree that Cockburn did a bad job in regards to the character side, but agree to a certain point in regards to him not being the level of player they thought.

Having said this, highlight tapes and game film are not always a guarantee of a player's ability and fit within your system. All players are only going to upload film that make them look good.

Time will tell if he is a player that can contribute at SBL level, the Suns sure need him to be an elite level import.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:56 24 Feb 16

Reply #580057

re: 2016 WA SBL

You cant tell attitude from a game tape. Cockburn would have made the decision based on what he offered at training which obviously wasnt what they expected or wanted.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:11 25 Feb 16

Reply #580174

re: 2016 WA SBL

Heres a good question

Even if a guy can flat out play is it worth having them if they have a terrible attitude?




Maybe the folks up in Gero can shed some light on this having released various imports over the last 5 or 6 years who could fill it up but were not the right kind of 'people' they were looking for


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???
Last year
12:38 25 Feb 16

Reply #580179

re: 2016 WA SBL

My simple answer is, it depends...

What is your roster like, what is your club culture, can the coach handle the player etc...

For some teams, having that flat out player will give them the shot at the championship and be the difference. For other teams the attitude will be to the detriment of the team no matter how good a player he is.

At SBL level the player would have to be pretty special to be able to overcome a poor attitude.

Unfortunately most clubs don't have the finances to replace an import so the background checking is paramount and then if they still get a knucklehead they have to make the most of a bad situation.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
12:44 25 Feb 16

Reply #580180

re: 2016 WA SBL

"Even if a guy can flat out play is it worth having them if they have a terrible attitude?"

Nice try, Geordie Cullen.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:19 25 Feb 16

Reply #580204

re: 2016 WA SBL

in 2013 Buccs signed and released Spencer Perrin before he even arrived after comments he made in the media about a $1million contract, private planes and beachside apartments being part of his package with the Buccs.

Signed Jamine Peterson as Perrin's replacement and released him 2 weeks into the season. Not because he couldnt play, he was unstoppable on the court. Carter Cook was then signed and has been there ever since.

Will also remember they released Quincy Hankins Cole last year despite having great numbers.

Im sure the Buccs being the professional organisation they are do as much homework on these guys as they can but as ??? said sometimes you just dont know till they get here


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Farrison Hord
Last year
15:31 25 Feb 16

Reply #580210

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cole was a lol. No one ever saw him outside of training & game day apparently.

god knows what he was doing


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Anonymous
Last year
17:31 25 Feb 16

Reply #580234

re: 2016 WA SBL

it also looked like he would talk to himself when he was on the court. the weird looks even his teammates would give him was something to be seen


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Anonymous
Last year
13:05 26 Feb 16

Reply #580326

re: 2016 WA SBL

Apparently Daniel Alexander had 44 in Lakeside's first game last night.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:34 26 Feb 16

Reply #580406

re: 2016 WA SBL

intersquad scrimmage wasnt it?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:35 26 Feb 16

Reply #580424

re: 2016 WA SBL

Afterwards they had an intrasquad bible study


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Anonymous
Last year
19:13 26 Feb 16

Reply #580446

re: 2016 WA SBL

and if they did is there a problem with that?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:16 26 Feb 16

Reply #580449

re: 2016 WA SBL

not at all, merely a Lakeside reference :P


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Anonymous
Last year
01:52 27 Feb 16

Reply #580606

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tonight in Rocko the Flames D League team took on the Flames legends on court 2 (in between 2 social netball games).

In front of a crowd of 12, the current Flames players took out a close lifeless battle while most people were watching the Wildcats on Fox.

One suspects this was nothing more than a nostalgic p**s-up for the old boys that wasn't organised properly and couldn't even afford the privilege of setting up the Trav Moore show court for the annual battle.

The old boys looked more organised by bringing in many past players and coaches while the current team was a bit undermanned on the court and the sidelines.


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Farrison Hord
Last year
11:43 29 Feb 16

Reply #580907

re: 2016 WA SBL

Less than a week out from the Blitz.

Any word if teams will be fielding full strength/under strength sides?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:34 29 Feb 16

Reply #580914

re: 2016 WA SBL

Teams who have had their imports out for a month or more usually play them. The others won't be cleared.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:15 1 Mar 16

Reply #580988

re: 2016 WA SBL

Really looking forward seeing the country teams in action , generally they play the better line ups due to not having as much chance to play scratchies
goldfields import plus the SA boy, geros import plus the qld boy. and of course royal crouch.
should be a fun w-end and I hope all teams get thru unscathed .


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Anonymous
Last year
14:16 1 Mar 16

Reply #580989

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pretty sure the Goldfields SA guy is not here yet.

Who is the QLD gero player?


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Farrison Hord
Last year
17:15 1 Mar 16

Reply #581009

re: 2016 WA SBL

Redbacks former import Raphiel Putney is currently the #6 ranked call-up prospect in the NBA D-League. That's quite the turnaround.


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Anonymouse
Last year
18:13 1 Mar 16

Reply #581013

re: 2016 WA SBL

Was he the spidery one or the one who was sacked early?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:04 2 Mar 16

Reply #581080

re: 2016 WA SBL

He was the skinny taller one, made a decent impact while he was here. But the stats hes putting up in the D League suggest he should have dominated the SBL.


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Anonymouse
Last year
13:35 2 Mar 16

Reply #581086

re: 2016 WA SBL

J Garlepps blind pick may have left him a little timid while in Perth. And don't forget who was coaching him. He did look like he could play and Turner would have demanded a lot of the ball.


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Oli Clothing
Last year
13:45 2 Mar 16

Reply #581088

re: 2016 WA SBL

What's the news on Ben Purser?

Heard he is pursuing a spot on the hit TV show "Suits" as the new gay lawyer.

Not that there is anything wrong with that.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:33 2 Mar 16

Reply #581133

re: 2016 WA SBL

He'll be at Perry Lakes tomorrow night training, so go ask him yourself you spineless turd.


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Anonymouse
Last year
17:44 2 Mar 16

Reply #581139

re: 2016 WA SBL

Just had a look at the SBL Transaction Tracker. Last updated in 2014. Laughable really for an organization trying to garner interest in a competition.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:55 2 Mar 16

Reply #581143

re: 2016 WA SBL

Lol didn't even know that existed. SBL should definitely have a designated media / social media manager. Could even be a job for a journalism student. Wouldn't take much effort but would make a big difference in terms of how people view the league. The NBL made huge leaps in this area in 2016 and its really paid dividends IMO.


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Oli Clothing
Last year
18:57 2 Mar 16

Reply #581151

re: 2016 WA SBL

Spineless turd?

Good one "Anonymous".

Why in the heck would you be scared of Ben Purser?


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offishhh
Last year
14:35 3 Mar 16

Reply #581314

re: 2016 WA SBL

Hey guys,

The SBL works really hard on its social media presence.

Just check out our website,

sbl.asn.au

and also our hyper successful instagram...

https://www.instagram.com/sblwa/

All the best for all teams headed into the blitz and remember to tag SBLWA with your happy snaps over the weekend.




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Anonymouse
Last year
14:50 3 Mar 16

Reply #581319

re: 2016 WA SBL

Yep, working hard and doing a great job.

Eight days from start of season and web site has had nothing new on it for a week and a half.

The Transition Tracker has had nothing new on it for a year and a half.

Have a look at what the AFL put on their site, it may give you a clue as to what SBL fans would like to be updated with, i.e. what's going on at various clubs, what players are doing etc.

Please don't say the clubs don't give you info.


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Farrison Hord
Last year
18:42 3 Mar 16

Reply #581388

re: 2016 WA SBL

The transaction tracker was more like an average crack at a pre-season report card than a tracker


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Downtown
Last year
18:50 3 Mar 16

Reply #581389

re: 2016 WA SBL

so any news on Tigers signing a 5 man yet?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:55 3 Mar 16

Reply #581390

re: 2016 WA SBL

Basketball administration in Australia seems to involve people who do no work but claim to be "working hard" whether on a national or state level. Nothign new.


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Farrison Hord
Last year
19:25 3 Mar 16

Reply #581392

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tom Jervis to join the team at the tail end of the year is all i've heard.

But thats hear say, hasnt come from the man himself


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Anonymous
Last year
19:25 3 Mar 16

Reply #581393

re: 2016 WA SBL

but their instagram is hyper successful!!!1 (rofl)


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Farrison Hord
Last year
10:58 4 Mar 16

Reply #581453

re: 2016 WA SBL

The SBL has no official instagram. Thats some other gumbo


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Lukosius
Last year
14:52 4 Mar 16

Reply #581491

re: 2016 WA SBL

From what I've heard, it was originally a muck around site by some drongos but because they have substantial followers now the SBL are considering approaching them with an offer to be the official page.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:40 4 Mar 16

Reply #581503

re: 2016 WA SBL

So some drongos are doing a better job of promoting SBL than the SBL itself. Sadly it makes perfect sense.


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Downtown
Last year
16:42 4 Mar 16

Reply #581513

re: 2016 WA SBL

I wonder what the said 'offer' would consist of?


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Red74
Last year
13:42 6 Mar 16

Reply #581863

re: 2016 WA SBL

Aj mastrovich to senators


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Anonymous
Last year
15:52 7 Mar 16

Reply #582180

re: 2016 WA SBL

Finally, an AJ post that is not BS. Stirling will be alright this season if they play enough defense. Good home now too.


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???
Last year
15:57 7 Mar 16

Reply #582181

re: 2016 WA SBL

So the Blitz has come and gone.

Was there any results or performance that changes peoples thoughts for the season proper?

It is hard to tell from the results as to which teams will be contenders as many players would have been missing and coaches wouldn't want to show their cards too early at the Blitz.

Maybe a bit of a concern for Kal and Gero with only a combined 1-8 win/loss.

Slammers also only going 1-3 with a full roster?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:04 7 Mar 16

Reply #582185

re: 2016 WA SBL

Very hard to judge with the players missing etc. However, Kal may struggle if their full roster was playing, so too Bunbury and Kalamunda. East Perth look very small but had one or no imports playing. Many teams playing D Leaguers/U20s for long periods. IMO the league will be improved in standard from last year. One of the Hickerts played for Hawks. That will make them stronger. Senators will challenge Joondalup I reckon. Import, Ellis, Mastro, and home growns under M Ellis will be worth watching.


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Downtown
Last year
12:11 8 Mar 16

Reply #582288

re: 2016 WA SBL

Senators will have a tough starting lineup!
Wroe, Throns, Lindbergh, Majstrovich, Ellis

Throw in guys like Bruton, Illiadis, Coburn, Litterick, Woodbury, Caleb Davis (when back from college) off the bench and thats a tough deep squad.

Although the Majstro/Ellis combination defensively might be a bit of a worry


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Anonymous
Last year
12:13 8 Mar 16

Reply #582289

re: 2016 WA SBL

No Throns and Illiadis for Stirling, Throns can't play because of his college eligibility, so might not be as deep as you think. The starting lineup will be damn tough though. Do they start Lindberg AJ and Ellis? Bruton?


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Anonymous
Last year
12:26 8 Mar 16

Reply #582291

re: 2016 WA SBL

Mike Ellis will be good, I think alot of it will come down to whether AJ is effective this year. Wroe is a huge get stirling should be top 4 if not top 6.

East perth will struggle. The league level has probably dropped a bit this year particularly with bunbury/gero/kal dropping.




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???
Last year
12:58 8 Mar 16

Reply #582296

re: 2016 WA SBL

It appears that the league has dropped, and there will be a bigger divide between the top teams (Wolves, Stirling, Tigers, Hawks, Cougars) and the bottom teams (Suns, Eagles, Magic, Lakeside) with a few teams filling the middle positions but not really contenders (Kal, Gero, Redbacks, Flames, Slammers)

Some of the middle teams look to be heading downwards as well with their better players being closer to retirement than developing


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Farrison Hord
Last year
13:07 8 Mar 16

Reply #582299

re: 2016 WA SBL

Was difficult to get a gauge on teams over the weekend. Especially with them holding players out or running sub-par youth lineups.

Wasn't exactly a fan spectacle that is for sure.

Lakeside could be ok with the inclusions of the 2 imports & Chan (all held out) & Cockburn look like they will compete as well. Return of original juniors Thomas & Della will strengthen what is already a decent unit.
Perth looked incredibly small & be lucky to even go 7 deep.
Did gero have 2 imports playing? as i thought Carter Cook was returning??


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ggg
Last year
13:08 8 Mar 16

Reply #582300

re: 2016 WA SBL

Couldnt make it down there on the weekend, Which teams looked good in the womans.


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Downtown
Last year
13:58 8 Mar 16

Reply #582307

re: 2016 WA SBL

No Throns and Illiadis for Stirling?

Throw Bruton or Coburn in there, still tough as hell

I would think with the versatility of Lindbergh, Ellis and Majstrovich they shouldnt have any issues all starting together


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Farrison Hord
Last year
14:10 8 Mar 16

Reply #582308

re: 2016 WA SBL

versatility wont be a problem for Stirling. defensive liability however, will very much be.

Alot of the women teams held out players as well. Barely anyone fielded a full strength side. Ladder has Perth & Stirling undefeated, while Lakeside & Joondalup didnt even pick up a W.

The blitz is such a farce you cant even read into those standings what so ever.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:43 8 Mar 16

Reply #582328

re: 2016 WA SBL

It's Wolves championship to lose from what I saw, overall the competition has gotten weaker. There will be a couple of strong teams (Wolves, Cockburn) maybe Willo if they get another import and Stirling if they gel.

The Buccs and Giants were interesting. I thought Cook was a lock, but he wasn't there and it looked like they had two other imports playing. Also no Bennie Lewis, Ralph or Wundenberg.

Giants have no shooters at all but two pretty legit imports as always. Still looking to add the SA kid and maybe another guard.

Redbacks still adding Vigor but their imports didn't seem to be at the usual level.

Magic and Rocko basically the same teams as last year, maybe a little weaker with Mullenax and Tommy Remmers another year older.

Lakeside had no imports, no Chan, no coach and no Martin and 3 wins, but played weak teams.

Bunbury have similar team to last year swapping Hickert for Easley but they lose Harrelson as coach that has to be a blow. Still play finals surely


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Hogwash
Last year
16:30 8 Mar 16

Reply #582335

re: 2016 WA SBL

Carter Cook is playing for Gero but was away for a wedding. The smaller dreadlocked guy isn't an import, he is Matthew Adekponya, formally from the Mackay Meteors.


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Splash Bro
Last year
16:37 8 Mar 16

Reply #582340

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any thoughts on Trevor Setty for Mandurah?

I saw a few portions of the game they played against WA Metro and he looked to have a decent outside shot

Rail thin physique though. Not sure if he could slide to a post position with his super light frame?


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Splash Bro
Last year
16:37 8 Mar 16

Reply #582341

re: 2016 WA SBL

Any thoughts on Trevor Setty for Mandurah?

I saw a few portions of the game they played against WA Metro and he looked to have a decent outside shot

Rail thin physique though. Not sure if he could slide to a post position with his super light frame?


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Hogwash
Last year
16:46 8 Mar 16

Reply #582343

re: 2016 WA SBL

With Mullenax, Smith and Remmerswaal, I doubt he will be needed in the post much.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:58 8 Mar 16

Reply #582349

re: 2016 WA SBL

Wow that is a good pick up for Gero then. No Bennie Lewis tho? Adekponya looked pretty good.

Setty looked really average in their first game, but improved over the weekend I heard.


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Lukosius
Last year
17:21 8 Mar 16

Reply #582361

re: 2016 WA SBL

Basically with the Buccs...

- import Burrow has replaced import whats-his-name
- Samuelson has replaced Thomas
- Adekponya has replaced Lewis (playing in SEABL I believe)


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Anonymous
Last year
17:31 8 Mar 16

Reply #582366

re: 2016 WA SBL

So fair to say the Buccs will be good, but not as good as last year.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:08 8 Mar 16

Reply #582371

re: 2016 WA SBL

MSBL Ladder prediction:

1. Wolves
2. Willo
3. Cougars
4. Stirling
5. Perry Lakes
6. Buccs
7. Bunbury
8. Giants
9. Magic
10. Flames
11. Lakeside
12. Perth
13. East Perth
.
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.(distant)
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.
14. Suns


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Observer
Last year
20:00 8 Mar 16

Reply #582384

re: 2016 WA SBL

1st. Wolves (last year 1st)
Same team as last year except second (token) import replaces Timms and they also add Maxwell.

2nd. Cougars (4th)
Big Marcus Goode will surprise, plus they have added Della, Holmes and Thomas.

3rd. Buccs (2nd)
Import Burrows looks solid, while Akenponya and Samuelson should be good replacements for Lewis and Thomas. The big, young kid from Mandurah is a bonus and a welcome backup to Wundenburg.

4th. Tigers (6th)
Replacing Easley with Bowie is a winner. Second import will be a 5-man. They will finish between 2nd and 6th, and the new 5-man will determine that. I'll split the difference and say 4th.

5th. Senators (10th)
The big improvers. Wroe is the big pickup here, more so than Majstrovich who could come off the bench. Frontcourt might be a bit slow, and no true centre, but they will put plenty of points on the board.

6th. Giants (7th)
Have lost Muo and Bowie, but added Manigault, Goodluck and Nikora. Franich expected back from injury, and also rumours of another guard coming in after the season starts. Once everyone is in place, they look slightly better than 2015.

7th. Slammers (3rd)
Crouch and Easily in for Harrelson, Voelkel and Hickert seems like a nett loss to me. Also looks like they have lost some promising locals from their bench.

8th. Hawks (8th)
You would think Caldwell replacing Mike Eurobasket would be a good thing, however Caldwell has a lot of KG's to lose by the looks of it. Also rumour is that Garlepp is not playing. Based on that, they don't look better than 2015.

9th. Flames (5th)
Have lost a crapload of experience in Remmerswaal, Moore and Bowman, so some youngsters will have to step-up. Chudier Pal is a good inclusion in the big man department.

10th. Magic (9th)
Slid away towards the end of 2015 and that slide should continue. Looked an old, tired mob towards the end of the season and adding Remmerswaal (for Della) won't reverse that trend. Setty for Hafford is interesting but not enough to get them back in the playoffs.

11th. Lightning (12th)
Have lost Prue and Jackson and only gained Chan, so you wouldn't think they would move up a spot from 2015. Goes to show you how bad Redbacks, Eagles and Suns may be. Unfortunately their high profile coaching staff (some American dude and Tony Ronaldson) won't reflect on their on-court performance.

12th. Redbacks (11th)
Despite the rumblings, 2015 imports Turner and Brown/Chutney were ok-to-good as a combo. The 2016 editions are well below that. Add to that the loss of Tahwiti and they will struggle. Rumours are that Vigor is back, but he is their only big man.

13th. Eagles (13th)
Hafford in for Dech, but that's about it. If Jervis comes back then they might move up a couple of notches. But I think we will all believe that when we see it.

14th. Suns (14th)
Their 2015 imports look way better than this year's imports. Picked up veteran Prior, but also lost Chan and Holmes. This on a team that finished with 2 wins. Team looks weaker so how can you pick them for more than 2 wins.


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Anonymouss
Last year
22:24 8 Mar 16

Reply #582414

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thanks Observer.
Slammers could struggle with player losses and especially Harrelson who was a very good coach.
Tigers could struggle early if they are going to wait for Jervis to rest.
Garlepp played on the weekend and has been training. Hawks may need to get the Wildcats dietician who did such a great job with Nate.
Rumour is there will only be one Land in Rocko.
Eagles still with an import to come and could surprise. The Suns need help - no good having a team that will struggle to win a game. Get better or get out I reckon. They could then put the juniors revenue back into the juniors.


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???
Last year
09:40 9 Mar 16

Reply #582446

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not sure the new guys at Buccs can 'replace' Bennie Lewis. On any given night he was arguably the best scorer in the SBL and could really break games open. His D and rebounding wasn't at the level of where it could be.
Thomas was solid off the bench for most of the year.
So I don't think they have improved on last year and have likely gone a bit backwards.

Kal have made quite a few additions but losing Mua is massive as he was their 3rd import level player. Not sure the recruits can cover this loss.

Tigers have apparently signed a 4 man so the Jervis rumour looks to be just that. You would imagine an announcement should come out any day now. With the season starting in just over a week it is likely any import just signed would miss at least 2-3 weeks. They have the talent in 2 x imports, Scott, Armour but it depends on how well they play together and the local players ability to contribute.

Lakeside may be in a rebuilding phase, which was always going to happen after Prue retired, but will benefit from the league dropping off. If they can now keep this core group of juniors (Grida/Shervill/Chan/Martin/Vinci) they will be right back up there in a couple of seasons


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Anonymous
Last year
12:42 9 Mar 16

Reply #582476

re: 2016 WA SBL

Are we sure Wroe is any good...?


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Farrison Hord
Last year
12:49 9 Mar 16

Reply #582477

re: 2016 WA SBL

I dont see him contributing any more than around the 14ppg, 6apg, 3rpg kind of mark.

Which is serviceable


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Anonymous
Last year
12:58 9 Mar 16

Reply #582478

re: 2016 WA SBL

Definitely think Wroe is good. I don't think he will be the kind of point guard who will score 20 points a night but he will be one of if not the best defender in his position in the league and is a big upgrade on Stirlings previous PGs.

Great fit for the team too. They have enough scoring between Ellis, AJ and Lindbergh and it allows Bruton and Throns to be spot up shooters rather than having to create off the dribble.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:00 9 Mar 16

Reply #582479

re: 2016 WA SBL

FYI, Throns is NOT playing this season. Only played the blitz because it doesn't hurt his eligibility.


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Splash Bro
Last year
18:58 9 Mar 16

Reply #582501

re: 2016 WA SBL

Observer - Ronaldson is no longer coaching at Lakeside so the high profile bench just lost a little bit of profile there!

To those saying Buccs will be better than last year I fail to see it. ??? hit it on the head, Lewis was arguably one of the best scorers in the league no matter what teams threw at him. I dont see the guys they have brought in being anywhere near to that level. I also think people underestimate the job that Hez did with those guys. Im not saying Trahair is a bad coach just that you lose a guy who is highly respected, experienced (in head coaching at that level) and proven winner. This loss has not really been factored in by a lot of the pundits.

Marcus Goode is Carlwell-esque! It will be a great matchup to see these two go at each other when the Cougars face the Hawks.

An early MVP candidate for me would have to be Gavin Field. Having that dominant post presence inside and a bit more experience around him in Della and Thomas I really see him thriving in this environment, even more so than last season.

Im interested to see how the Tigers go with chemistry. 1 ball between Armour, Scott, Bowie and another import. Someone or multiple people may not be happy with the amount of shots they get. Word on the street was Easley wasnt happy there getting 5 shots a game and coming off the bench, and that was with Davis as their other import who was more of a shot blocker/rebounder type, not taking a lot of shots. I dont imagine Bowie or their new import wanting to be in that same boat?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:26 9 Mar 16

Reply #582516

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cockburn still has Najee Lane to add as well, that makes them pretty formidable. Starting 5 of Thomas, Field, Lane, Goode and Della/McIntyre with a deep bench of Van Lit/Pesava/Holmes/Prince and others


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Anonymous
Last year
14:07 10 Mar 16

Reply #582558

re: 2016 WA SBL

Pesava will probably start


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Downtown
Last year
17:45 10 Mar 16

Reply #582575

re: 2016 WA SBL

Whilst there are a number of people they could start, I reckon a tough lineup for cougars would be

Thomas
Lane
Field
Della
Goode


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Anonymous
Last year
10:45 11 Mar 16

Reply #582612

re: 2016 WA SBL

Has Rhys Vague signed anywhere?


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Anonymouse
Last year
10:59 11 Mar 16

Reply #582614

re: 2016 WA SBL

East Perth


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Spectator
Last year
14:48 11 Mar 16

Reply #582637

re: 2016 WA SBL

Looking really good for the Cougars this year!


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Downtown
Last year
17:29 11 Mar 16

Reply #582647

re: 2016 WA SBL

Does anyone know if there will be a radio show or anything similar this year?


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Anonymous
Last year
11:55 12 Mar 16

Reply #582693

re: 2016 WA SBL

Interesting to hear that a couple of clubs are having immigration issues for some imports... should have done their homework


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Anonymous
Last year
11:16 14 Mar 16

Reply #582886

re: 2016 WA SBL

Random, I hope you're typing away furiously ready for the week one preview? :-)


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Anonymous
Last year
11:36 14 Mar 16

Reply #582890

re: 2016 WA SBL

A [email protected] preview would be great!


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Anonymous
Last year
11:37 14 Mar 16

Reply #582891

re: 2016 WA SBL

I would assume there will be a radio show. Cecins has done a great job the past few years. It probably won't start until after week 1.

Mansfield probably won't be on it now that he is back coaching.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:38 14 Mar 16

Reply #582892

re: 2016 WA SBL

Given that the season starts this weekend hopefully the SBL website is updated. The 2016 fixtures are still under the '2015 SBL Season' heading.


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offishhh
Last year
11:57 14 Mar 16

Reply #582893

re: 2016 WA SBL

Word on the street is a WAAPA student will be running their own podcast once a week, as well as Cecins pod.

The more the merrier in my opinion!


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Farrison Hord
Last year
12:16 14 Mar 16

Reply #582895

re: 2016 WA SBL

Week 1 Mens Tips (winners in caps):

Friday
WILLETTON @ East Perth
Perth @ SUNS

Saturday
Lakeside @ STIRLING
COCKBURN @ Perth
Rockingham @ WILLETTON
JOONDALUP @ Bunbury
Geraldton @ MANDURAH
PERRY LAKES @ Goldfields

Sunday
Geraldton @ LAKESIDE


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Anonymous
Last year
12:26 14 Mar 16

Reply #582897

re: 2016 WA SBL

Suns over Perth??


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Anonymous
Last year
12:47 14 Mar 16

Reply #582899

re: 2016 WA SBL

Which teams are having immigration problems?


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Farrison Hord
Last year
12:54 14 Mar 16

Reply #582901

re: 2016 WA SBL

yep.

Perth have no bench & play notoriously bad up the hill (one of 2 suns wins last season was against Perth in the sticks).

And there is always an upset (of sorts) somewhere :)


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Anonymous
Last year
13:25 14 Mar 16

Reply #582903

re: 2016 WA SBL

Not bad picks. Suns have no big guys, not that Redbacks do either though. Redbacks should pick up the W.

The Stirling game should be interesting how they pull all their talent together. That game is on Friday now, not saturday.

Cockburn should easily handle Perth

Not sure when Rocko and Willo get their second imports in so would have to go Willo based on aussies +bowie.

Wolves will kick off the season by easily taking care of Bunbury.

Gero should get a W against Mandurah then who knows what will happen against Lakeside who are totally unknown.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:37 14 Mar 16

Reply #582921

re: 2016 WA SBL

who are the 2 imports for willeton and rockingham that they are waiting for ?
the wsbl may be affected for the first round with a few girls playing.(lynx )
haven't all mens teams got their imports in place other than the above ?
there doesnt seem to be many imports in the womens comp this year , or are the still arriving ? any news.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:05 14 Mar 16

Reply #582923

re: 2016 WA SBL

Cooper land is back shortly, I believe Taylor land is having visa issues


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Anonymous
Last year
17:31 14 Mar 16

Reply #582925

re: 2016 WA SBL

And Willeton were meant to be signing a 5 man?


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Hogwash
Last year
19:04 14 Mar 16

Reply #582926

re: 2016 WA SBL

Imports listed below in BOLD will be playing this weekend....

Wolves - DAVIS & EVANS
Tigers - BOWIE & Still Looking
Magic - MULLENAX & SETTY
Hawks - HOBBS & Carlwell
Eagles - Hafford & ??????
Suns - McGILL & MARSILI
Cougars - Lane & Goode
Buccs - BARROW & COOK
Giants - MANIGAULT & HOLMEN
Lightning - HALLICE & ALEXANDER
Redbacks - DEMUYNCK & McCONNELL
Senators - LINGBERGH & Ellis
Slammers - NICHOLS & CROUCH
Flames - Land & Land

So 19 out of a possible 28 imports playing this weekend, with seven not playing and two not found yet (Tigers, Eagles).


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Farrison Hord
Last year
19:30 14 Mar 16

Reply #582929

re: 2016 WA SBL

No Cockburn imports at all?

almost had to change my tip....almost.


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Reply #582958

re: 2016 WA SBL

Preview to be posted tomorrow...


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ggg
Last year
11:43 15 Mar 16

Reply #582971

re: 2016 WA SBL

anybody know which womans teams have imports


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Anonymous
Last year
11:49 15 Mar 16

Reply #582973

re: 2016 WA SBL

Rockingham have Sami Whitcomb
Mandurah do have one import
Bunbury have the same big as last year I think
Lakeside have Ali Schwagmiyer and 1 more import
Willeton unsure
Redbacks have recruited other teams players
Wanneroo unsure
Cockburn have 1 womens import
PL not sure
Stirling have two imports + a naturalized Amber Land?


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Reply #582977

re: 2016 WA SBL

Tigers @ East Perth - The Eagles have been as quiet as a church mouse in the off-season aside from the media release regarding Jo Alan taking over as Head Coach. Even the Hafford signing wasn't advertised and from all reports they won't have Jervis this season with other clubs and their $$ reportedly very interested in the Cats Big Man. Speaking of clubs with $$, that is who the Eagles welcome to 'The Nest' as Willo head across Garrat Rd Bridge for their season opener. After poaching Bowie from the Goldfields in the off-season, Blacky has once again put together a nice squad... but the question remains will there be enough Ball to go around and keep everyone happy? Time will tell on that front but for this game at least, it should be all smiles at Tigerland. Willo to easily get past the Eagles, winning by 17

Redbacks @ Kalamunda - So the exodus did occur to a degree, and the replacements for fadeaway Ray don't look to be anywhere near as high caliber. So many questions from a Perth perspective, but the main one being just who will lead the scoring for them this year? Has Nik learnt to beat a zone yet?? Will the Spiders Faithful welcome the move back to Belmont??? Interesting sub-plot here with both the Suns Head Coach and one of their major signings in Prior both having a significant history at the Redbacks. On paper you have to think Perth have the edge here but something tells me this will be close... Hard one to call in Week One but will go with common sense and say Perth to struggle to a 5 point win.

Lightning @ Stirling - So the first official SBL Game at the new Warwick Stadium and thank god the new grandstand is slightly more comfortable than its predecessor! Huge moves in the off-season for the Senators with Ellis x 2 signing on as well as the very handy additions of Wroe & Majstro (For once this is real LOL) mean that there is a very strong chance the Ship this year is going to the North Metro... just a matter of whether its the Wolves or Senators. The lads from the church head into 2016 with a somewhat depleted squad with Prue retiring (Again!) and not as much depth with their Australian stocks as there has been in the past. Hallice & Alexander will need to have monster games here to keep the Lightning in this one, but I think Stirling will have too much firepower and finesse up both ends of the court for them here. Senators to christen the new stadium in style, winning by 15 points.

Buccs @ Mandurah (Mike Barnett) - So the Trahair Era at Buccs begins with a game against the club he used to play for, at the stadium where he was an assistant all of last year for the Flames. It will be very interesting to see how the locals in the Midwest take to big A, but if he can transfer his wealth of knowledge and playing skills into a successful coaching career, I am prepared to say the Buccs will once again challenge for 'Bob' come late August. For the Magic and if there ever was an example of transition year - this would have to be it! Unable to play at their stadium all season due to redevelopment, losses in Hafford, Gerovich & Della x 2 mean the juniors coming through the WABL ranks the past couple of seasons for the club, will need to now fulfill that development at the next level for Mandurah to be competitive this season. Gero to get off to a winning start, defeating the Magic by 9

Hawks @ Kalgoorlie - Nixy and the boys from Floreat get their season underway with one of the true road trips of the league, heading east to play the Giants in Kal. Carlwell a nice signing for Perry Lakes if they can get him to somehwere near game fitness, but the fact he isn't cleared for this one could prove the defining factor with ol mate Frenchy making sure his two US Studs in Manigault & returning Holmen are all cleared. Giants looked to struggle at the Blitz from all reports but if my boy Hammer can replicate his 2015 late season form once Manigault finds his niche, maybe... just maybe, the Giants could be the dark horse this season. Should be a close one up at the Bowler Dome, but with no size inside aside from Purser, the edge has to go to the Giants here. Goldfields to get up in a nailbiter by 3 points

Cougars @ Perth - Seppo's not cleared for the boys from Hammy Hill yet but given Perth are on the quick backup, and just the significant difference in playing stocks between the two sides, you would expect the Cougars to have far too much polish for the Redbacks here. Great to see the Spiders back at their traditional home (Much more shooter friendly rings there too!) but it will be to no avail, as DT & Della return to the Cougars in style, winning by 11 points

Wolves @ South West - No Harrelson, no four Americans (Let's call it for what it was people! :-P ) & an aussie lineup which isn't getting any younger for the Slammers this year mean it could be a very tough one for the South West crew in 2016. The reigning Champs hit the Forrest Highway down to Eaton to open up their defense after taking all before them last season and with some of the best travelling fans in the League (Will that drum be banned at opposing stadiums this season!?) its hard to think the Wolfpack not continuing their winning ways into the new season given the addition of Evans to an already superb lineup. Joondalup to make the long drive worth it, defeating South West by 21

Flames @ Willo - Tigers on the backup after playing in Morley on Friday night, whilst the Flames will head into this one minus both the Land Brothers. Chudier Pal and Nebs Franich are nice additions for Rocko but alot will be left to Franich, Godfrey & one of the young guns in Roberts or J Beard if the Flames are to trouble the Tigers here. Willo to make it two from two for the weekend, defeating the Flames by 14

Buccs @ The Church - Both teams on the back end of tough Week One double headers. Based off each of their respective Australian stocks however, I can see this being a rather one-sided affair. Buccs to head back to the Crayfish Coast atop the standings, defeating the Lightning by 19


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aqw
Last year
12:31 15 Mar 16

Reply #582978

re: 2016 WA SBL

magic have 2 imports annette jackson davis and adijat adams.
cockburn have thornton.
perth no imports
hawks no imports
slammers big from last year was patricia bright
eastern suns?


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Anonymous
Last year
12:44 15 Mar 16

Reply #582980

re: 2016 WA SBL

Great write up as always [email protected] always a good read.

Slammers - They still have 4 Americans for 2016.
Crouch/Weeden/Nichols & Easley so surely they would be expecting to be around the mark again.
However I do agree that they are not as strong as 2015 with no Harrelson and the other rebounding fella.

But with 4 x Americans surely they must be in the conversation.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:13 15 Mar 16

Reply #582984

re: 2016 WA SBL

It really depends on how Weeden comes back from his knee and how Crouch plays.

Easley is a big downgrade on Harrelson or Voelkel, so Crouch will need to cover that loss of scoring and play making. Weeden is tough inside but they are going to have a tough time covering the rebounding loss.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:26 15 Mar 16

Reply #582985

re: 2016 WA SBL

SBL preview podcast going up on Sonshine FM sometime this week


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Splash Bro
Last year
13:29 15 Mar 16

Reply #582986

re: 2016 WA SBL

ahh the sweet smell of a [email protected] preview. welcome back


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???
Last year
15:07 15 Mar 16

Reply #582995

re: 2016 WA SBL

These first few rounds are difficult to predict until the availability of players is known.

Getting off to a good start can take a lot of the pressure off so teams that have all players available and some consistency from year to year with their roster will likely have a good start.

Andy's Lakeside teams were the masters of getting off to a great start by having the imports here and cleared to play, and also have the same core group for many years. This always set them up for a good season as they hardly ever lost an early game.

It seems like there are a lot of teams still getting players cleared and lots of change so the first 4 rounds may really shape the season...

My predictions for round 1 are:
- Tigers over Eagles
- Redbacks over Suns
- Stirling over Lakeside
- Buccs over Magic
- Hawks over Kal
- Cougars over Perth
- Wolves over Slammers
- Willo over Flames
- Buccs over Lakeside

So Willo and Buccs will be 2-0 after weekend.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:06 15 Mar 16

Reply #583012

re: 2016 WA SBL

rockinham will lose by 40 to willo. magic will beat the buccs.


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bbb
Last year
10:45 16 Mar 16

Reply #583052

re: 2016 WA SBL

womans imports
cockburn ashley adams
cheridy thornton

east perth
kelsey dewit
steph jones

suns
sabrina jeridore

lightning
ali schwagmeyer
devanny king

magic
adijat adams
annette davis


flames
whitcomb
ifuanya ibekwe


stirling

kara van dyke.


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jgv
Last year
10:51 16 Mar 16

Reply #583053

re: 2016 WA SBL

restricted or lynx players

wanneroo, wisher
suns, barr
hawks, edmonson
perth, galloway
willo, thomlinson


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Farrison Hord
Last year
11:21 16 Mar 16

Reply #583055

re: 2016 WA SBL

Thomas Korf will be an import for East Perth.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:49 16 Mar 16

Reply #583061

re: 2016 WA SBL

I thought he was an import at the Blitz. The light haired fair skinned small forward..?

He was serviceable, nothing special.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:44 16 Mar 16

Reply #583063

re: 2016 WA SBL

It really is quite disappointing that the season starts in just over 48 hours and by the look of the website you would think it is the middle of the off season.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:52 16 Mar 16

Reply #583064

re: 2016 WA SBL

puts the SEMI in semi-pro league!!


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Anonymous
Last year
14:25 16 Mar 16

Reply #583068

re: 2016 WA SBL

Maybe they need to pay heed to the Brett Coxsedge mantra

"No excuses, get it done"


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RMQ
Last year
16:57 16 Mar 16

Reply #583075

re: 2016 WA SBL

SBL Podcast with Matty Cecins is out. Guest is Adam Forde

http://98five.com/player/Podcast/index.php?name=SBL1654161254.mp3


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Reply #583076

re: 2016 WA SBL

FYI: Guest isnt Fordey - he is the co-host this year in the place of Mansfield from last year


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Anonymous
Last year
19:24 16 Mar 16