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Dazz
Two years ago

#38296

Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

12:00pm Perth time on GO!
Awesome to be able to watch this game on FTA.

In the post game write-up, there was no mention of Knight being injured, only Jawai, with the comment that "Hopeful all three (Martin, Prather, Jawai) will play on Sunday, but I have to wait for medical advice."
I think we can cover for Jawai, but getting Damo and Prather back becomes critical. Beal played a lot of minutes last night, if he has to back up and do the same again, we're going to struggle.

We can only hope the rumours are true and Gleeson erred on the side of caution with Damo and Prather last night. If they play, assuming Damo is actually ok after his long lay-off, then I think we can do it.
If not, or if Knight is actually injured, then the Hawks are good enough to win this.

Looking forward to seeing Lisch play again, not looking forward to him ripping us a new one from outside. Should be a great game. Hawks have some awesome offensive firepower, and Perth will have to be at their defensive best if they hope to stop them.

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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
21:01 24 Oct 15

Reply #557875

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Don't expect it to be close....That's asking for too much in this league.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
21:02 24 Oct 15

Reply #557876

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Another 11 point blowout coming up, just like the last 2 Taipans games.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:12 24 Oct 15

Reply #557879

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra will be expected to win this easy, a full strength Hawks should in my opinion beat perth 9 times out of 10 this year but with perth possibly missing upto four starters well this could be a cricket score, Illawarra have far to many weapons offensively for an ageing perth roster. I think Perth got lucky with their 2 - 0 start. Besides bevo v Gleeson oh please no contest.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
21:12 24 Oct 15

Reply #557880

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

@CJKRobinson
Wildcats injury update: Martin & Prather flew east but likely to miss Hawks game. Cats hopeful on Jawai (quad) & Knight (shoulder) #hardball


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:17 24 Oct 15

Reply #557881

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hey blowout troll you're failing so hard with pathetic troll attempts get some better material.


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Dazz
Two years ago
21:28 24 Oct 15

Reply #557884

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

@CJKRobinson
Wildcats injury update: Martin & Prather flew east but likely to miss Hawks game. Cats hopeful on Jawai (quad) & Knight (shoulder) #hardball

Might as well have stayed home.
If Knight's ok and Prather gets up (or Damo) I'd give the Cats a chance, otherwise no hope.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:44 24 Oct 15

Reply #557889

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Seriously Knight injured again? Childress is the new Knight.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:10 24 Oct 15

Reply #557893

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Is Perths roster really that much older than Illawarras?


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Train
Two years ago
22:46 24 Oct 15

Reply #557896

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I was tipping Illawarra even before all the additional injuries to Perth but hey who knows.

If Jawai, Knight, Martin and Prather sit this one out we will most likely be looking at a starting lineup of Kenny, Beal, Hire, Redhage and Jervis with Wroe, Vague and Wagstaff coming off the bench(can't remember who the other development player was).

Thats a real tough ask considering Hawks will be close to full strength and in good form. Ogilvy should have a field day.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:55 24 Oct 15

Reply #557900

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra were already favs long before Perth had injuries.
Let's hope the Perth softies lose another one.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:01 24 Oct 15

Reply #557903

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Maybe perth can give the assistant coach some court time la la Wollongong Hawks when they had a major injury crisis some four seasons ago, ironically against perth guess u could say this could be a get square for Hawks. As they say what goes around comes around.


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Dazz
Two years ago
23:31 24 Oct 15

Reply #557908

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Maybe perth can give the assistant coach some court time
Perth actually cam close many years back, when Mike Ellis was newly retired and working at the Team Manager. We had so many injuries that he actually got fitted out and suited up, but in the end somebody came good and he didn't play.

Where is Brad Robbins when we need him???


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:35 24 Oct 15

Reply #557910

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

on tv


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Dazz
Two years ago
23:41 24 Oct 15

Reply #557912

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra were already favs long before Perth had injuries.
Let's hope the Perth softies lose another one.
Yeah?
And when exactly was that dickcheese?
Martin was been injured for months. ROFL.

And if Perth lose, because they're without 3 or 4 of their starting 5, how exactly does that make them soft?

Come on, hating Perth is easy, at least put SOME effort into it, and come up with something pithy.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:44 24 Oct 15

Reply #557914

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

They hate because you keep biting.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
00:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #557920

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

#903 Perth weren't really responsible for that injury crisis game so not sure why "getting square" or "what goes around comes around" applies. I think the phrase you wanted as "wow, what a coincidence!"


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Kobe24
Two years ago
00:15 25 Oct 15

Reply #557923

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Cats dying off very quickly, Hawks will win this and it'll be done by the half for mine...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:03 25 Oct 15

Reply #557937

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Isn't it interesting how every team has problems, injuries, issues with form and a tough schedule they all have to deal with causing so many ups and downs at the start of this NBL season!

Oh, wait, Melbourne don't................

#whofixedthedraw


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RMQ
Two years ago
08:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #557942

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Rumour mill: Bevo on a one year contract as he will move back west wi the a naturalised Lisch next season.


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captain obvious
Two years ago
08:54 25 Oct 15

Reply #557945

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

epic if true rmq


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #557946

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Is de lisch suiting up today? Would be fun watching he and dolla go head to head


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #557947

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Rmq don't tease me like that. That would be A dream come true. But don't bevo and Marvin have beef? Also i thought bevo was a guy with more of a long term outlook. A program builder. Not the guy who hops around from team to team


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:11 25 Oct 15

Reply #557949

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Lol think u will find the more likely scenario is Martin and knight joining bevo at illawarra next year.


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RMQ
Two years ago
09:12 25 Oct 15

Reply #557950

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I believe cats management would welcome Bevo back if it was the right fit.

The right fit being that he brings Lisch with him.

As a fan. I'd like to see Bevo back only if Lisch is naturalised as well.

The Bevo era wildcats teams were successful, but boring with no athletic players,

Expect a big shake up if the cats miss the playoffs this season.

Also add a new Brisbane team in the mix diluting the talent pool.

Changes could be a foot.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #557952

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

As for Lisch he spoke on the local news and hinted he maybe keen in buying a house in the illawarra.


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LV
Two years ago
09:32 25 Oct 15

Reply #557954

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Did I read that Lisch's wife and her family are from Sydney?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #557961

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I think when we look back over this era in the history books the wildcats sacking of bevo for Gleeson will look very very bad. Cats to have their playoff streak broken and bevo to keep attracting the players and winning titles.

Rmq you call bevo style unathletic week that was more a function of the recruiting and dollars available at the time these days clubs are spending bigger


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Kobe24
Two years ago
10:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #557963

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Lish's wife is from he gong he its going anywhere.


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Hardwood Hero
Two years ago
10:06 25 Oct 15

Reply #557965

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

RMQ, I thought the same thing. Why would Bevo & Lisch only sign 1yr deals, They're coming home...


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Train
Two years ago
11:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #557975

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevy's family is still living in and based in Perth. If an offer is thrown his way by Perth I think its a no brainer as to where he will go.


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Train
Two years ago
11:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #557976

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Sorry I mean Bevo


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
11:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #557981

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevo would know that Spenceley treats the Hawks as a play thing and his interest will die off pretty quickly. He won't want to put himself or his guys through another meltdown like they went through at West Sydney.


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Natural is better
Two years ago
11:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #557982

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Back to the topic of the game, is there any final information on injuries and who will play?

From the NBL site it says Lisch is a starter and Rhys Martin is subject to a fitness test.

How about on the Wildcats side?


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RMQ
Two years ago
11:26 25 Oct 15

Reply #557983

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Just want to clarify. I'm neither for or against Bevo moving.

I'm just relaying rumours. And that's all it is.

Yes Bevo was constrained by money, club recruiting etc. I'd like to see what he does with a blank canvas (for example a team that misses the playoffs for the first time in 30 years).


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:30 25 Oct 15

Reply #557985

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

lol. Wishful thinking that Bevo has any interest in coaching the Wildcats again. Hates Marvin with a passion. Just love these suddenly desperate Perth dans clutching at straws.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
11:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #557986

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Haha tend to agree, someone says something and everyone just jumped on it! everyone for the Hawks signed 1 year deals this season as far as I remember. To do with restructuring there contracts to survive. Anyways this will hopefully be a better game than I think, but if even half the guys the Cats say are injured are out, it'll be ugly Hawks are clicking, sharing the ball and enjoying the style buying into Bevo's system.


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Kaiju
Two years ago
11:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #557988

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Lol "desperate Perth fans"? I think more respect for Bevo as a quality coach than anything else. Sounds like Anon has some sour grapes...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:43 25 Oct 15

Reply #557990

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevo won't be back he was sacked despite winning due to style. Big slap in the face from Marvin the tool. Also all Hawks are on single year deals. Horrible rumour lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:44 25 Oct 15

Reply #557991

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Sour or not I think he is right that the bridges between Marvin & Bevo are burned to the ground so forget about that ever happening. Those are two proud and stubborn men.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:48 25 Oct 15

Reply #557995

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"Bevo won't be back he was sacked despite winning due to style"

If that is true then I don't expect Gleeson to survive October. His style is far worse then Bevo. Look what Bevo is doing now that he has the right players. Very entertaining basketball. Also how is any coach supposed to play entertaining basketball if the CEO keeps hanging him Martin, Hire, Redhage, Knight, Wagstaff, etc. That's like saying your going to dominate the paint this season and then going out and recruiting Ben Allen and Luke Schenscher.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
11:49 25 Oct 15

Reply #557996

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Apparently the big tip is Bevo will coach Boomers after Rio, meaning he cant coach in NBL. I suggested he could do dual roles, but Boti said on twitter that FIBA qualification process is changing - coach needs to be full time


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:51 25 Oct 15

Reply #557998

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Correct anon 995 it's called the arrogance of Nick Marvin. Then he hand picks Gleeson and doesn't say a word despite the style being the same if not worse. Enjoy your current predicament Nick, after all you caused it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:54 25 Oct 15

Reply #558000

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Exactly. Illawarra are playing some of the fastest pace basketball out there, very easy on the eyes. Let's not forget they are the only side to rack up 100 and that was without lisch. If you want boring how does 35pts in the last 3 quarters suit you? Bevo is miles ahead of gleeson as coach don't get it twisted just because gleeson was able to win a title with a huge talent advantage over the rest of the league. Once other teams started spending and recruiting better he's been exposed.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
11:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558001

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Where did this Beveridge sacked talk start? He left because he wanted the Boomers gig. And the Wildcats were good to watch under Beveridge - actually had players who could hit 3-pointers.


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fan
Two years ago
11:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558002

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I will go for Hawks in this one. The true test will be the type of game (low scoring or high scoring) it will be. If it is say 35-33 at the half the wildcats are controlling the game with their unique style of boring ball. If Hawks are 40 points plus at the half they are looking good because we know the wildcats struggle to score 60 in 40 minutes.

RMQ makes an interesting point about unathletic teams of Bevo. Today's personnel would be better, but would they shoot the ball well enough for Bevo system to work?
There is no doubt Bevo is a better coach than Gleeson. With Lisch naturalised.. WOW.. Just the 3pt shooter we need!

Even better would be Brian Goorjian, or if we can really dream.. How about Obradovic?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:58 25 Oct 15

Reply #558003

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Gleeson won a title basically with Bevo's system, and Bevo's core local players. Add star import Bevo never had and timimg luck with Cedric missing a year from NZ Breakers and you ship a ring. Nick Marvin no doubt though himself a genius back then well how about now it's all crumbling as expected when you ride the fumes of a predecessor.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558005

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wildcats view Bevo went for Boomers gig but said to Cats if he doesn't get it he wants to remain Cats head coach but the club didn't offer a deal.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
12:16 25 Oct 15

Reply #558012

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Reply #558005

Wildcats couldn't sit around and wait for the decision. They had roster decisions to make etc. No problem Bevo going for gig, but club cant sit and wait, it was the correct call. Whether or not Gleeson was correct decision is another story - I think winning a championship justifies it, even though it was on the back of James Ennis.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:28 25 Oct 15

Reply #558013

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Timing wasn't an issue they thought they could do better and used it as an excuse to replace him.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
12:53 25 Oct 15

Reply #558015

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevo was stepping away from coaching for a while, regardless. He was not sacked, due to his style or otherwise. All these anons can keep inventing as much stuff as they want to.

And the one who said its all crumbling away as expected? What, you picked a team that has been in the playoffs for thirty years to miss a year, and you think it proves something, after one loss? What an idiot.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
12:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558016

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

How would we/you know that? Why can't we just take Marvin and Beveridge at their word. Why do we need an ulterior motive.

We humans love a good conspiracy story thats for sure


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
12:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558017

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

That isn't to say the club did everything perfectly either. But this "Marvib sacked him his a tool" nonsense is complete bullshit.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558019

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

In 2013 Lemanis was named Boomers coach in what late April?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
13:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #558020

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

WV, that isn't quite right. You have got your timings mixed up.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:09 25 Oct 15

Reply #558021

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Super
I could be wrong - It's happened once or twice before - but my understanding was Beveridge contract was up in June, Boomers job given to Lemanis late April, club already had deal with Gleeson but couldn't announce officially until Bevo contract was up.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
13:19 25 Oct 15

Reply #558023

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Do we know who is playing for Perth yet? Jawai, Prather and Martin all big question marks at this point.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
13:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #558024

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

No I don't think that was the case. Between the pressure of battling Lemanis for the Boomers gig, and the (unfair) pressure coming from the club of "title or else", Bevo was not enjoying coaching. He wanted time off but the club decided to move on instead.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
13:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558025

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Martin is out, Prather is warming up, no news on Jawai yet.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:36 25 Oct 15

Reply #558027

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevo coming back to the Cats makes sense. His family lives in Perth and he was probaly the most popular Cats coach amongst the fans since Cal


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:39 25 Oct 15

Reply #558028

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Prather confirmed out


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:39 25 Oct 15

Reply #558029

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jawai in


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Train
Two years ago
13:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558030

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

From Twitter : " WILDCATS ALERT: Martin (calf) and Prather (knee) will remain out for today's game. Knight (shoulder) and Jawai (quad) will suit up. Wroe in. "


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Train
Two years ago
13:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #558031

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dunno if its a good idea risking Jawai and Knight if they are already carrying injuries. The season is still young.


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Mel O'McKarona
Two years ago
13:43 25 Oct 15

Reply #558033

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Major backcourt issues again hey.

Wroe is me!
- Gleeson


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
13:45 25 Oct 15

Reply #558034

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Going to be a bit of a small vs tall game. If Ogilvy can contain the bigs, this could get pretty ugly for Perth.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:46 25 Oct 15

Reply #558035

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Knight's shoulder wont get worse, not sure about Jawai however. I assume he 100% considering how cautious they've been with Martin.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:47 25 Oct 15

Reply #558036

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

We need the Hawks shot to be off today


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Luuuc
Two years ago
13:49 25 Oct 15

Reply #558037

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah, REALLY off! Like, Greg Hire-level off.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
13:52 25 Oct 15

Reply #558038

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Anyway, I'm fine with effectively writing this one off as a loss if it means not taking injury risks.
Being 2-2 after 2 home & 2 away games is hardly a disastrous position.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558039

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

i mean if the Crocs can beat Wildcats at home, anythings possible.


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LV
Two years ago
13:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558040

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

If Illawarra have an off shooting night, then anything could happen.

If Illawarra can shoot the ball well, or even at a decent level, then they should win comfortably.

This Perth lineup is unlikely to be able to keep pace with Illawarra in a run and gun, fast paced game. Hawks will have too much firepower. If Perth can control the pace, turn it into a bump and grind half court affair, control the ball, ie: limit turnovers, and hope that none of Illawarra's shooters go off, that would all put them right in the game.


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KingJames
Two years ago
13:57 25 Oct 15

Reply #558041

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wildcats views cheers for the player updates


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:58 25 Oct 15

Reply #558042

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

No Prather, Damo nd a struggling Jawai and Knight=Perth loss


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
13:58 25 Oct 15

Reply #558043

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Agreed LV - Knight will struggle defending Forman out on perimeter. Hopefully 'Cats can exploit him in the post at the other end. But man there's like 9 guys on that roster capable of hitting 3's at an efficient rate. Scary


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Luuuc
Two years ago
14:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558044

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

On the flipside there's like 9 guys on our roster incapable of hitting 3's, so that should cancel it out and make for an even contest.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
14:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #558045

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Luuuuc - I'd laugh but the truth hurts


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
14:05 25 Oct 15

Reply #558046

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Where's that dude that predicted the Crocs by 2 the other night. We need a nostradamus type prediction going the Wildcats way


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
14:05 25 Oct 15

Reply #558047

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

King James - no problem, I wish it was better news


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Luuuc
Two years ago
14:07 25 Oct 15

Reply #558048

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Let it go, I say.
Shit happens, and our health situation right now is indeed shit. Nothing we can do about that today (except play it safe with anyone who is doubtful, to make sure things don't get even worse)

So to me this one is already a loss. It's a free hit at the Hawks. Nothing to lose, except a chunk of money if the Cats happen to get up :p


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
14:13 25 Oct 15

Reply #558051

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I was going to get on Illawarra at $3.25 for 11+ yesterday (or was it Friday?), but didn't. Now they're out to $2.80, don't think it's worth it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:36 25 Oct 15

Reply #558054

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

If Perth had their full team at full strength I would tip them, but they are playing behind the 8ball.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
14:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #558055

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks gambling more than they need to early on. Why give us cheapies until it is proven that your normal honest D won't stifle us?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:43 25 Oct 15

Reply #558056

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth looking good but it's early days


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:50 25 Oct 15

Reply #558057

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jervis playing well


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sagemania
Two years ago
14:50 25 Oct 15

Reply #558058

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth size is a big factor right now.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
14:51 25 Oct 15

Reply #558059

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth owning the boards.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:51 25 Oct 15

Reply #558060

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Terrible inbounds pass


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sagemania
Two years ago
14:52 25 Oct 15

Reply #558061

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wagstaff has been terrible for a few games now


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XY
Two years ago
14:53 25 Oct 15

Reply #558062

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra have a very scary starting 5 and a very un scary bench.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:54 25 Oct 15

Reply #558063

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks are hitting shots out of their asses lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558064

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks will cool down but most of their 3 are coming from downright stupid Perth turnovers. Perth cleans that up they are right in it.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
14:58 25 Oct 15

Reply #558065

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

This is a good pace for the Hawks, can Perth keep it up?


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
14:59 25 Oct 15

Reply #558066

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Davidson just getting old? He's been struggling early this season.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
15:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #558067

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jawai does seem to use his arms a lot on rebounds


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
15:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #558068

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Davidson seems to have no lateral movement or speed


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:05 25 Oct 15

Reply #558069

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

13 Fts to 0 LOLOL....

This league is a sham....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:06 25 Oct 15

Reply #558070

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Beal da gawd


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:06 25 Oct 15

Reply #558071

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

It's hard to get free throws when you run 80% of your possessions on the perimeter.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
15:08 25 Oct 15

Reply #558072

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Foul-wise I'd only have issue with the hand-checking by Perth and the pushing on rebounds. Other than that, it seems about right


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:08 25 Oct 15

Reply #558073

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

5 assists for Jawai already.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:10 25 Oct 15

Reply #558074

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Look at a Perth player.....foul...

The Wildcats are the NBL darlings....Like the Rabbitohs are the NRL.

The NBL have to look after Perth, its the cash cow for the NBL....The NBL have to do everything to keep them competitive so the big crowds keep on coming back.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
15:11 25 Oct 15

Reply #558075

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Ogilvy has to go to Rio!


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:12 25 Oct 15

Reply #558076

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Foul count is pretty even. Can't just look at the free throw numbers. Illawarra aren't running a game plan that involves getting to the line every possession, Perth are.


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Train
Two years ago
15:12 25 Oct 15

Reply #558077

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Don't feed the trolls


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:12 25 Oct 15

Reply #558078

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

#074, there is no easy way to say this but you're a fucking idiot.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558079

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You have to take you're hat off to Knight. This guy is playing through a pretty bad injury.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:15 25 Oct 15

Reply #558080

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Terrible Kenny


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:16 25 Oct 15

Reply #558081

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Is it just me, or does Jawai look like he's wearing flippers when he runs?


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:18 25 Oct 15

Reply #558082

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL

LOOK AT A PLAYER FOUL...

Breath on a player foul.

No wonder this league is the laughing stock of Australian sport.


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Mystro
Two years ago
15:19 25 Oct 15

Reply #558083

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What's with the music drowning out the commentators? Horrible...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:19 25 Oct 15

Reply #558084

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wroe playing wrell


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MACDUB
Two years ago
15:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558085

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks should just go small, run and gun and expose Perth.

Jawai isn't exactly mobile and Knight is moving at snails pace (due to his injuries).


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Train
Two years ago
15:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #558086

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth are doing very well to be only 3 points down.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #558087

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

26 fouls in 220 minutes of basketball...

HAHAHAHA...LOL @ the NBL....

No wonder only the rejects of world basketball end up here...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558088

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks are shooting at well as they can from the 3pt line and perth are stinking it u and it is only a 3t game. All the Cats need to do is cut down the sill turnovers and keep pounding the ball into their bigs and it's anyones game.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558089

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

So the slow boring old past-it Cafs have kept up with the high scoring Golden State Hawks for a half, despite being less fresh and undermanned. Can't complain about that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558090

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Looks like Bevo has found the on button for ogilvy's ability to be a confident aggressive player


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sagemania
Two years ago
15:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558092

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Beal is a pretty good baller!.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
15:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558093

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Can the Cats keep it up for a full game though?

Or will the game slow down to a half court grind it out kind of game?


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:25 25 Oct 15

Reply #558094

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

26 fouls in 20 minutes of basketball

LOLOLOL...

No wonder this sport almost dies every year


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Baller
Two years ago
15:27 25 Oct 15

Reply #558095

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I don't know but jawai 7/5/6 at half time is pretty nice! Imagine when he is in better shape..


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:28 25 Oct 15

Reply #558096

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Is there an ignore option?


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sagemania
Two years ago
15:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558097

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jawai is pretty much automatic in the low block but right now they are using him as a playmaker of the low post.

He needs to start looking for his shot more and attack AJ to get him into foul trouble!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558098

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Roy Hobbs, no I don't think they can keep it up. I just think the earlier calls that they are finished/can't score etc are way too premature.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558099

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

26 fouls in 20 minutes of basketball?

That is MORE than 1 foul a minute......

What kind of league is this?


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Train
Two years ago
15:32 25 Oct 15

Reply #558100

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I just went to get a screen cloth for my phone because I thought there was some shite on it , but then I realised it was just another anon post.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:33 25 Oct 15

Reply #558101

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Can't miss open threes Red


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #558103

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

26 posts in 20 minutes saying the same thing?

What kind of retard are you?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #558104

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah Nate


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:37 25 Oct 15

Reply #558105

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Smart Hire. Very smart


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:37 25 Oct 15

Reply #558106

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

4 more fouls in the first 90 secs of the 3rd qtr LOLOLOLOLOL...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:38 25 Oct 15

Reply #558107

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What sorcery is this Hire!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558108

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

We're back baby!


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Train
Two years ago
15:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558109

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow !! This is turning out to be a cracker of a game


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #558110

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

30 secs went by without a foul being called..

I think this is a sign the world is coming to an end.


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sagemania
Two years ago
15:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #558111

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Knight runs like he is titlting all over the joint,.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:42 25 Oct 15

Reply #558112

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hey anon, there have also been 23 points scored in three and a half minutes. Who is complaining about that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:44 25 Oct 15

Reply #558113

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

holly the shagging sheeps Kenny wow


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:44 25 Oct 15

Reply #558114

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I thought shooting was supposed to be Kenny's thing? Has looked very timid tonight and against us too.


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LV
Two years ago
15:45 25 Oct 15

Reply #558115

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Very impressed with Beal and Knight.

Kenny is hesitant. Why? He can shoot the 3. Check out NZ vs Aus


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:46 25 Oct 15

Reply #558116

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jesse en fuego!


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Train
Two years ago
15:46 25 Oct 15

Reply #558117

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Boom !!! Wagstaff


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
15:48 25 Oct 15

Reply #558118

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Man, this is an offensive showcase for both Teams in the 3rd


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:50 25 Oct 15

Reply #558119

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Definitely not the sort of game that you'd expect to see with Perth playing, that's for sure.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
15:54 25 Oct 15

Reply #558120

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Weeks is so legit.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558121

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Shambles


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558122

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Jervy!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558123

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

WHAT A GAME. BEST GAME OF THE YEAR BY A COUNTRY MILE


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:57 25 Oct 15

Reply #558124

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Kenny showing why he never had a NBL job prior to this. Just so scared to shoot even when left wide open. Cats doing pretty well considering the guys missing though


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Train
Two years ago
15:58 25 Oct 15

Reply #558125

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

This is a great game to have live on FTA!!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
15:59 25 Oct 15

Reply #558126

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

This game is prettier than Isaacs brother.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558127

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage is done


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #558128

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Great D Tom


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #558129

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Nate penalised because of his size.

Terrible


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:02 25 Oct 15

Reply #558130

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What a load of crap, that was a joke call on jawai


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:03 25 Oct 15

Reply #558131

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

FFFUUUUUUUUU REFS!!!


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Player
Two years ago
16:03 25 Oct 15

Reply #558132

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I just knew Jawai would get dicked this season!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #558133

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Flopphage falls over and wagstaff gets an unsportsmanlike a second later. That is why people hate the wildcats.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #558134

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dats it Kenny, you gotta always shoot dat!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
16:09 25 Oct 15

Reply #558135

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

So you hate everyone to ever get an USF??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:09 25 Oct 15

Reply #558136

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Whats with Knights stupid help D today


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:10 25 Oct 15

Reply #558137

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

James Harvey is quality


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:10 25 Oct 15

Reply #558138

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Man Kenny has such a sweet shot.

We need to run plays to get him spotted up.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:11 25 Oct 15

Reply #558139

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Kenny shutting me up. Two sweet treys and solid D


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:11 25 Oct 15

Reply #558140

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Where was this effort from the Cats against the Crocs! The have been pretty easy on the eye today, and high scoring too. Just a great quality game for TV viewing.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:13 25 Oct 15

Reply #558141

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Matty :(


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:13 25 Oct 15

Reply #558142

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Mstty knight is hammered. Warrior type performance


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558143

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What a game!

Faith in NBL is restored


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558144

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Win or lose i feel better about the cats again after watching this


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:15 25 Oct 15

Reply #558145

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

As someone who is not a perth fan I think tonight win or lose they showed great heart but knight has gained respect in my books.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:16 25 Oct 15

Reply #558146

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

HYAH!!!!!!!!!!!11


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558147

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Who says we can't shoot threes ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558148

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Who says we can't shoot threes ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558149

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

CATS


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Train
Two years ago
16:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558150

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Holy crap!!! Why is Wagstaff not starting over Redhage. And when did Hire learn to shoot ?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558151

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

In the offseason apparently.

Suddenly looking like a jumpshooting stud


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:18 25 Oct 15

Reply #558152

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Can the cats finish? They were in a similar position v tsv


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558153

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Maty knight putting his body on the line every play despite being sore


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558154

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Knight with SO MUCH HEART!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558155

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

knight you champion


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558156

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Inspirational matty!!


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Train
Two years ago
16:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558157

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Knight is a beast


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #558158

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage you doofus


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558159

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

AGAIN REDHAGE YOU FUCKHEAD


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558160

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perths turnovers are keeping the hawk in it


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558161

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Cats trying to throw this away!!


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558162

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra have missed some big shots late here.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #558163

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

That's the trio


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #558164

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage is having a nightmare!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #558165

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Lucky


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #558166

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

perrth giving it away


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558167

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Iceman


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MACDUB
Two years ago
16:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558168

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Why run that play for Coenraad. Good shooter.

But geez you want Lisch, Forman or Penney stroking that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:24 25 Oct 15

Reply #558169

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

PHEW!!

Lisch is having a mare of a shooting game


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:25 25 Oct 15

Reply #558170

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Illawarra can only blame themselves if they lose this.
So many opportunities.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:25 25 Oct 15

Reply #558171

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth ruining all their hard work by gift wrapping for the hawks


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:26 25 Oct 15

Reply #558172

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Cats win!!!

W00000000

Love you Matty toughest guy in the league <3


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:26 25 Oct 15

Reply #558173

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks had there chances, this one will sting. Redhage is a real issue for the Cats.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 25 Oct 15

Reply #558175

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hire and Wagstaff need to be banned from passing further than 10m.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 25 Oct 15

Reply #558176

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth with no DAMO, PARTHER, Knight playing on one hand have shown why they are going to be in the big dance because of heart and guts


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558177

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Should have been 4-0


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558178

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Matt Knight earned them that win. Huge effort.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558179

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Beal took it personally or what? he took lish to school


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558180

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth most probably wont be in the big dance, but really gutsy win these are the types of wins that make fans come back for more.


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Train
Two years ago
16:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558181

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow , just wow . That was a brilliant game and a tremendous effort from Perth given their injury problems. My heart is still jumping out of my chest.

I had written this game off before it even started. Faith restored.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:30 25 Oct 15

Reply #558182

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

That crocs loss woke up the sleeping giant


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558183

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

How good is Hire now that he can shoot to add with his tremendous defence?


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another anon
Two years ago
16:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558184

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Damn. 2 bigs injured. 2 guards out. And still won on the road. Write them off at your peril.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558185

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Healthy Perth and the United are the best two teams in the league!. What a cracker that game on Thursday going to be.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
16:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558186

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth showed the heart that Townsville did on Thursday. Matt Knight outstanding. Live by the three die by the three!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:32 25 Oct 15

Reply #558187

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Huge smile by the skipper in the post game huddle. Toure of effort that makes you proud!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
16:32 25 Oct 15

Reply #558188

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I lost $200 but I'll take that win any day of the week.


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Lindsay
Two years ago
16:32 25 Oct 15

Reply #558189

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Fantastic win!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:33 25 Oct 15

Reply #558190

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Same here supernintendo strange feeling lost a bet yet still somehow happy overall


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:33 25 Oct 15

Reply #558191

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I just looked at Hires numbers holly cow 13 points and 11 boards


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
16:33 25 Oct 15

Reply #558192

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Makes up for the loss to Townsville I think.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:34 25 Oct 15

Reply #558193

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Loved Harvey's commentary aswell


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #558194

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Rosen is burning hard. NSW boy cant take it. loool


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Natural is better
Two years ago
16:36 25 Oct 15

Reply #558195

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What does this say about Illawarra? Gave up 106 points to a team with a stinky offense and one of their main weapons glued to the bench in the second half with foul troubles.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:37 25 Oct 15

Reply #558196

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Those Cats fans who thought Lisch was better then Beal well I hope you know understand Money bill beal is better


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Player
Two years ago
16:38 25 Oct 15

Reply #558198

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Amazing game. I am LOVING the NBL this year. Amazing games and talent and great commentary. Loving the mixture of the pro commentator with the past player!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558199

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah weird comment Rosen made about the Hawks being the best team today... Hawks really shouldve been able to close that out at home and the lead. Live by the 3 die by it, both teams best players stood up. Love guys like Beal and Lisch, going at it.


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sagemania
Two years ago
16:45 25 Oct 15

Reply #558201

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

As someone mentioned earlier that Townsville loss was probably the best thing that could have happened to the Cats. Idealy you want to win every game but sometimes you need a kick in the backside to wake you up.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:53 25 Oct 15

Reply #558203

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Theres no doubting dolla quality but before we rush to pass judgement let's not forget that was lisch first full game this season


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:55 25 Oct 15

Reply #558204

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Sack Gleeson? ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:03 25 Oct 15

Reply #558207

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Was that the best nbl game of the past five years?


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sagemania
Two years ago
17:04 25 Oct 15

Reply #558208

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Right up there. Two genuine contenders going at it toe to toe all game!


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
17:05 25 Oct 15

Reply #558209

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Damn, what a game. Gutsy effort from Perth. Stifled Hawks 3 point looks at the end and contested everything. It paid off.

Seems Matty wasn't affected too much, monster game by him.


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LV
Two years ago
17:06 25 Oct 15

Reply #558211

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Brilliant effort by Perth. Game of the year so far and they were excellent. I would not have thought that Perth line up would score over 100 but they did it.

Bench players Wagstaff, Kenny and Hire stood up when it mattered.

Perth deserves favouritism every bit as much as United.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558217

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

NBL need to get their shit together for the website.

No game report, ladder 2 games behind. Still defaulting to Round 2 for results.

(n)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:35 25 Oct 15

Reply #558220

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

So you bet $200 against your own club. Nuff said.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:52 25 Oct 15

Reply #558223

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth were $2.2 and happy to take that.


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Natural is better
Two years ago
17:54 25 Oct 15

Reply #558225

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

And here come the guys putting their bets on after the game is finished again...


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fan
Two years ago
18:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #558228

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow they scored 100 points in a game.. Great to see and hope it continues !


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #558229

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Shame you haven't been following the topics.
I thought it was a no brainer and last week I backed the Hawks. That is already history.
So why do you care at all with your 6 comments so far. Clearly I should be concerned ;)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:23 25 Oct 15

Reply #558231

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You can't say "nuff said" when you haven't actually made a point.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:37 25 Oct 15

Reply #558232

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

A clueless newbie has no opinion. Nuff said.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:56 25 Oct 15

Reply #558233

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Why does every thread involving Cats fan end in arrogant sarcastic back forth shit.

Great game, awesome product to show off to the Aus public, this league is growing week by week.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:20 25 Oct 15

Reply #558234

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Awesome game to watch . I didn't think Perth would get 106 .
Sure thing for playoffs imo


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:21 25 Oct 15

Reply #558235

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Because people don't like the Cats so they talk as much shit as possible and the threads descend in to this crap.


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Anon
Two years ago
19:25 25 Oct 15

Reply #558237

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

The crap talking comes from both sides, it's not just Cats haters.

It should have no place in this thread, it was an awesome game. I had money on the Hawks, but also the over so half a win haha.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:43 25 Oct 15

Reply #558240

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Kabe24 said. Cats dying off very quickly, Hawks will win this and it'll be done by the half for mine...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:57 25 Oct 15

Reply #558243

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Tough going with tipping i predicted a split weekend for cats but like most got them the wrong way round


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Kobe24
Two years ago
20:01 25 Oct 15

Reply #558245

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah anon, I did say that, with the assumption that Jawai was to miss and potentially Knight. So what your point, they played, it was a great game. IF they hadn't have played id stand by that prediction. Smh...


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sagemania
Two years ago
20:03 25 Oct 15

Reply #558246

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Perth now faces two massive games that could have a huge bearing on the standings on seasons end. They travel to Melbourne to face the United on Thursday and return for the grudge man on against the Hawks on Sunday.

It will be hard to beat the United without both Damo nd Prather out both if they are both healthy well it is a even money game. The Holt v Beal matchup will be amazing.

If the Cats beat the Hawks again the get the split on the tiebreaker if they finish with the same record. This two games are massive!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:19 25 Oct 15

Reply #558250

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow Kobe we don't care and sorry we didn't read the qualifications you didn't put in your post.
Dazz and Kobe facing off in the dumptie awards


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Kobe24
Two years ago
20:29 25 Oct 15

Reply #558252

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hey you felt the need to point out my pick directly so just responding to that anon. Weirdo...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558253

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

No you were wrong and then explained your post. AFTER the event.
Bit like the betting thing eh


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Kobe24
Two years ago
20:45 25 Oct 15

Reply #558255

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Ok buddy no worries, you were right, I was wrong. Man I bet that feel good eh


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Train
Two years ago
20:48 25 Oct 15

Reply #558256

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

anon 253 - what exactly is your beef ? I'm a cats fan and even I tipped this gane to be over by the half. I don't think Kobe24 has to justify his comments.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
21:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558259

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I didn't think they'd win either (glad they did) because of the ongoing injuries, the new ones from Friday, plus the potential for fatigue. Why does getting a prediction wrong need to be justified to a window-licking anon?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:06 25 Oct 15

Reply #558262

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Cos your a prick who bets against your own side. Simple like you.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:07 25 Oct 15

Reply #558264

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow, some folks should not be given internet access haha Charming individual, no connection to Cats for life... haha


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
21:13 25 Oct 15

Reply #558267

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah I did. I thought they would lose, and the Hawks were paying reasonable odds. Whats wrong with placing that bet? What difference does it make to you?

Are you in a tipping comp? Do you pick your team to win every game?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
21:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558268

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

It hasn't been a good day for anons on this forum. The Minda Bus must have free wifi.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
21:17 25 Oct 15

Reply #558270

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Just got done watching that one and man, what a game.
Have to echo what others have said about Matty Knight. He just would not say die. Awesome. Beal was huge too. His stamina is on another level.
Not sure where we found the energy to play that out like that, but it was great to see, and I think it also backs up the NBL's new schedule. Having a day's break makes a noticeable difference compared to back-to-back games on consecutive days.

Commentary and the quality of the telecast overall was good quality.
Hawks would be disappointed though, as the Cats would have been after Friday, for letting that one get away.

Greg Hire was shooting 20% for the season prior to that game. Picked a useful time to go 4/5


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:18 25 Oct 15

Reply #558271

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Agreed, that was just a weird little outburst! Well good round of basketball nonetheless, so as a ball fan I'm happy!


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cats 4 life
Two years ago
21:22 25 Oct 15

Reply #558272

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hi guy's, I'm back. Great win, Hawks are good if the triples go down, Perth is just Perth! like or hate them just don't bag them, they have been the most consistent team for 29 years, hate them but you have to respect them.

kobe24 you are a bit of a duse bag!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:26 25 Oct 15

Reply #558273

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Ahh what timing! Ive been called worse...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558274

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I'm a fan of the duse bag http://www.beyondtherack.com/product/BEN73021DUSEBK?category=1 I can see why its sold out.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
21:34 25 Oct 15

Reply #558276

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You're a fine looking sort, K24.
I had no idea you were black.


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sagemania
Two years ago
21:43 25 Oct 15

Reply #558278

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You would think so far the top four teams are in order


United
Wildcats
Hawks
36ERS



right now. If Perth beats the United they go on top. I think after a few more games and once the 6ers new import settles in they could be challenging Perth and the United for top spot.


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Maxymoo
Two years ago
21:48 25 Oct 15

Reply #558279

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I didn't think we could do it today Kobe but hey we're not anon know alls.

Gutsy win.

Just wish Gleeson would STFU.


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LV
Two years ago
22:00 25 Oct 15

Reply #558285

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Lol @ this forum.


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indoorkite
Two years ago
22:07 25 Oct 15

Reply #558288

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

All for betting against your team if the odds are good, creates a win/win situation. Your team wins, you're happy, they lose, you cash in, happy days fellas.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:31 25 Oct 15

Reply #558294

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Why are people writing off NZ?

Top 4 will be

United
NZ
Melb
And Adelaide/Cairns/Illawara


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Train
Two years ago
22:40 25 Oct 15

Reply #558296

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Probably the same reason you are writing off Perth lol


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sagemania
Two years ago
22:41 25 Oct 15

Reply #558297

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

NZ has lost to Perth, Hawks and the 6ers so far this season. How can you put them in the top 4 as of right now?


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Luuuc
Two years ago
22:48 25 Oct 15

Reply #558300

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"All for betting against your team if the odds are good, creates a win/win situation. Your team wins, you're happy, they lose, you cash in, happy days fellas."

It works even better for Perth punters because Perth has a lot of basketball fans and the Cats traditionally get a lot of money their way, so I find that our odds tend to be shorter than I think they "deserve" to be.

I got today wrong too but still think it was a smart bet.
As I said yesterday
"That's my favourite type of bet ... I'd be happy to lose my money if the Cats can pull out a road win."

Very happy this evening :)


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Luuuc
Two years ago
22:52 25 Oct 15

Reply #558301

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"NZ has lost to Perth, Hawks and the 6ers so far this season. How can you put them in the top 4 as of right now?"

More to the point, how can you have 2 spots in the top 4 being taken by Melbourne? They are the same team as United last time I checked ;)

I expect NZ to be in the mix by the business end of the season. I think it's pretty pointless getting too carried away with arguing over top 4 predictions at this early stage though.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
23:14 25 Oct 15

Reply #558302

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Here's my recap of today's beautiful game

http://wildcatsviews.com/2015/10/25/perth-wildcats-stunning-win-over-illawarra-hawks/


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sagemania
Two years ago
23:16 25 Oct 15

Reply #558306

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Melbourne is 5-0. NZ is 2-3.BTW I did say if Perth wins on Thursday they will go on top.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:17 26 Oct 15

Reply #558312

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Fair dinkum this season has been a funny one. Perth beats Adelaide and the Hawks on the road and the champs at home but loses to the Crocs of all teams in perth? lol


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Kaiju
Two years ago
01:09 26 Oct 15

Reply #558315

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I personally don't see a reason why people are bagging out Kobe24 for his predictions, it was just his general opinion on how the game would go, as much as I don't always agree with Kobe24 he has a right to share his thoughts


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:07 26 Oct 15

Reply #558318

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

@WIldcats views

"The Wildcats, led by Jermaine Beal and a banged up Matt Knight, eventually grabbed the lead but then almost threw the game away - literally – turning the ball over on four consecutive possessions late in the contest – three of those turnovers by Jesse Wagstaff."

Sure you didn't mean Redhage?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
02:11 26 Oct 15

Reply #558319

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Also love your analysis Wildcats views, very well written, comprehensive and a great read.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
05:51 26 Oct 15

Reply #558320

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Thanks for the kind words.

Regarding turnovers, Wagstaff made three errors, Redhage made that one on the baseline throw.


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Bear
Two years ago
06:08 26 Oct 15

Reply #558322

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

It is games like this, the huge upset wins, the massive individual efforts, injured players willing their team over the line and the unpredictability of the games that is making the league excellent viewing this season, great stuff!

#hardballonhardfloors


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Bear
Two years ago
06:20 26 Oct 15

Reply #558324

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

@Wildcats Views I liked your recap, I thought rebounds really won it for the Wildcats last night, I also watched Nate Jawi play closely, at times he was giving up fouls that were let go so while he may be unlucky to have been given his 5th in that game I think I counted about 20 on him and against him...

That's a hard one, becuase it is so qhysical in the post, especially when he plays, that officials can't actually call it as they see it or he would be off with 5 fouls and his opponent would have 4 in the first 10 minutes of most games.

So, what we are seeing is tollerance, which in basketball terms means inconsistent officiating, but I can't see what else they can do at this stage, can you?


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Isaac
Two years ago
06:41 26 Oct 15

Reply #558328

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Sad finish by the Hawks who got rattled once Perth took the lead. Some questionable shots at the end - seen some mentions of Coenraad's, but the worst for me was Lisch's off balance, long two when they could've used a safer option.

Perth's rebounding and interior D was just too strong.

Knight was a warrior. Hopefully anyone who doesn't get why he keeps making All-NBL teams watched that.

Interesting thing is that the Cats might've expected to go 1-1 that round, backing up against the Hawks. Still went 1-1 after the Crocs horror, but this will prove to be a more useful 1-1 as it gives the win to the Crocs (predicted to struggle) and denies one to the Hawks (tipped to finish higher up the ladder).

No Hawks starter played more than 28 minutes. Ogilvy had 21 points with no fouls. 8/12 FG. Like Gleeson earlier in the round, did Bevo coast too much and pay the price?


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LV
Two years ago
07:51 26 Oct 15

Reply #558335

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Poor rebounding killed the Hawks.

Ogilvy, Forman and Ellis played a combined 68 minutes and only got 4 defensive rebounds.

Perth had one less offensive rebound than Illawarra got defensive: 15 to 16.

It's rare that a team would lose a basketball game with keeping turnovers to 9 and shooting a load of 3's at over 40%. But when you get mauled inside that's what happens. This will be interesting seeing how United cope with Perth's size and presence on Thursday.


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Bear
Two years ago
08:13 26 Oct 15

Reply #558337

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

So, can we say that the styles were kind of opposite between these two and that's just where they are at.

Perth's inside game opens up its perimeter shooting and opportunities outside the arc, while the Hawks tend to rely on their 3 point shooters and hope that the inside game is good enough to pick up the scraps?

Kind of the way it worked out in this game too, I think... So, Melbourne have a similar game to the Hawks, well then the Perth v Melbourne game should be a douzy.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
08:20 26 Oct 15

Reply #558339

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

All I know after all the analyizing it this would make one hell of a playoff series!


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skull
Two years ago
09:26 26 Oct 15

Reply #558351

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

while i like Bevo's free style offence....as the coach surely he should have taken more control in that last 2 minutes??
Poor coaching down the stretch !!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:56 26 Oct 15

Reply #558357

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Great sign for Perth to be missing 2 of its starters and play a game like that!


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NBL #1 Fan
Two years ago
10:03 26 Oct 15

Reply #558358

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Martin should be playing on Thursday.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
10:45 26 Oct 15

Reply #558368

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

While Bevo's game plan is high octane offence, with almost all players having the green light from beyond the arc, the difference between the Hawks team and his previous Cats team is that he doesn't have the rebounders to negate any misses.


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Bear
Two years ago
11:01 26 Oct 15

Reply #558372

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I will agree^ and suggest Melbourne, although they also tend to jack up quite a few threes at least have some more rebounding strength, especially with Majok Majok.

This is why my early call for an NBL final series is Perth V Melbourne, but to be honest who knows how it will end up this season, upsets in the finals could blow that prediction out the park!


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LV
Two years ago
11:32 26 Oct 15

Reply #558377

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Agree with the above two posts.

The other difference between United and Illawarra in terms of player personnel is that Goulding gives them an elite one on one scorer who can break the team out of a funk in a spectacular fashion.

Illawarra has nothing comparable to Goulding in terms of the way he can score. Penney is still a sweet shooter but you can see he's lost a step when he tries to go one on one- has committed many turnovers like that this season. Lisch gives them that to an extent, but he’s nowhere near the scorer Goulding is. So when Melbourne has an off shooting night from outside in terms of their catch and shoot, Goulding will be more capable of breaking them out of it by going against his man in a one on one.

Although, to be fair, Illawarra does have more 3 point shooters than Melbourne does.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:21 26 Oct 15

Reply #558391

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You guys talking about bevos offense are missing the point. They gave up 106 to a team that has poor skills and only scored 63 two days earlier


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Bear
Two years ago
13:22 26 Oct 15

Reply #558403

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

And how many did the opposition score anon^?

Yes, it was an offensively minded, attacking and high scoring game, no one is saying otherwise, so what is your point of emphasis on how this happened?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
13:25 26 Oct 15

Reply #558404

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Missing what point? We are specifically talking about Bevo's offence, and the pros and cons of it.


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sagemania
Two years ago
13:31 26 Oct 15

Reply #558405

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I will take a healthy or even semi healthy Knight over AJ, Jawai or Kickert or anyother big in Australia every day of the week and twice on a sunday!. He does so much for his team it's not funny. He will never be a spectacular highlight reel player but there is no one better who can get the job done day in day out. Typical meat and potatos guy.


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sagemania
Two years ago
13:33 26 Oct 15

Reply #558408

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Bevos offence is generated from trap and press defence. Get steals and run the court and pushe it down the other teams throat either via the 3pt line or open court fast break points.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:48 26 Oct 15

Reply #558414

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You guys are saying bevo offense has shortcomings in not having as good rebounding as perth or Melbourne. The offense is damn good they are piling on the points. There nothing wrong with it at all it is championship calibre. The defense and rebounding however Is not at that level


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:10 26 Oct 15

Reply #558420

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Hawks officially blew it.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/illawarra-hawks-admit-they-blew-it-in-loss-to-perth-wildcats-20151025-gki4vv.html
Rebound count is a worry for sure


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:19 26 Oct 15

Reply #558425

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"Thanks for the kind words.

Regarding turnovers, Wagstaff made three errors, Redhage made that one on the baseline throw."

And Redhage got te ball stolen/poked away when he was trying to dribble up the court which makes 2 and I'm sure there was a third.

I commented in this thread at the time.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:30 26 Oct 15

Reply #558434

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Said it many times since this Hawks team came together. Team needs an athletic defensive rebounder who can play the 4 spot and maybe one spot up or down. 6'8" ish with little offense. Plenty of those types available because they are raw offensively. Use the second import spot on one.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:32 26 Oct 15

Reply #558436

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Mike Dunigan


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LV
Two years ago
15:35 26 Oct 15

Reply #558438

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

If the salary cap means anything, then surely they couldn't sign another import in addition to the signings of Lisch, Penney and Ogilvy?

With the points cap, having so many players who have been with Wollongong for 5+ years (Coenraad, Demos, Davidson, Forman) they'd have a lot of loyalty discounts?


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Isaac
Two years ago
16:21 26 Oct 15

Reply #558455

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

From the article above:

"We are going to learn from this experience. The guys are gutted," Beveridge said.

"They are very disappointed because I thought we were the better team the whole time.

"I thought our game plan was good.

"It is hard down the stretch when we do spend time going this is how we are going to close the game out and we just didn't."
Doubt they'll rush to mess with the roster. Weeks is doing very well, Martin is going to come back desperate to knock Weeks out of his spot, Lisch and Penney didn't have brilliant games, Ellis was better, etc.

If they'd just been a bit smarter in the end game, they would've won that.


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koberulz
Two years ago
16:22 26 Oct 15

Reply #558456

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Or if Forman and Coenraad hadn't missed two or three wide open threes in the final couple of minutes, even.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 26 Oct 15

Reply #558458

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Wow what a game. Bevo is at least an honest coach and admitted they threw that one away.

But I felt like as some said above Cats had to pull it out from three point land to get it done and they did.

There was a period after Kenny openly declined to shoot threes he hits two in a row sweetly and Wagstaff pulls two out of nowhere as well. WTF!

Biggest WTF that hassn't mentioned here (can't believe it!) is Lisch going for a hero three to win it instead of driving or kicking off for a two to tie it to at least go to OT? This was when Hawks down by 99-101... FAIL!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:29 26 Oct 15

Reply #558459

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

00:22 11, K. Lisch, 3pt jump shot missed 99-101


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:21 26 Oct 15

Reply #558471

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"If the salary cap means anything, then surely they couldn't sign another import in addition to the signings of Lisch, Penney and Ogilvy?"

Hakim Warrick
Stephen Holt
Chris Goulding
Daniel Kickert
Todd Blanchfield
David Barlow


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:28 26 Oct 15

Reply #558477

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Haha. LV wearing his Melbourne goggles as usual. He had form.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:38 26 Oct 15

Reply #558482

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Haha nice Anon


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:45 26 Oct 15

Reply #558485

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

K. Lisch massive fail with the hero three. Take it into overtime geez


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:05 26 Oct 15

Reply #558497

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Watching the replay.

Larry Davidson is passed it. Two shots under the basket he goes up lamely and gets the ball smoothered, not even a block was necessary as there was no airtime.

O boards for Hawks - Wildcats at two stages went 0/2 from the line but got the o board and score.

The way the game was managed at the end by the Hawks - Coenraad shooting, really? and Lisch three when margin was two. Where was Penney or Forman this whole time at a crucial stretch.

Game seemed to swing to the Cats with the do over before three quarter time. Someone screwed up (cheeky Hawks scorers bench?) and then Jervis hits the buzzer beater with the reset play.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
18:08 26 Oct 15

Reply #558498

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

If i have kevin lisch open for a go ahead 3 any single day of the year im taking it and living with the results. You dont bring in star players to play it safe when they have made a career out taking the hero ball and making it. Cmon now...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:10 26 Oct 15

Reply #558500

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

You forgot he was underdone just coming back from full fitness. He wasn't driving to the basket as much because of it and settling for the three. The last hero three was him settling for it as he is just coming back from injury. Forman Penney get them the rock not Coenradd (lol) or an underdone Lisch.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:12 26 Oct 15

Reply #558501

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Forgot to add Kobe24 agreed in general but Lisch is still recovering underdone slightly, also bare in mind you have Penney on the roster and Forman.


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Dazz
Two years ago
18:37 26 Oct 15

Reply #558517

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Awesome game, just one of those rare ones where several players all have exceptional games together.
I don't know if you could perhaps put it down to motivation from the earlier drubbing, but Beal, Knight, Hire and Wagstaff all had massive games. Whilst for the Hawks Lisch had a great first game back, and Ogilvy, Weeks, and Ellis were all exceptional.


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Air Goorjian
Two years ago
18:59 26 Oct 15

Reply #558522

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dolla BEALLLLLL is the real deal, for real, he had Lisch for a meal.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:13 26 Oct 15

Reply #558531

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah Dolla owned but also took it to Lisch knowing he had just come back from injury, good move.


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Dazz
Two years ago
19:14 26 Oct 15

Reply #558533

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Larry Davidson is passed it. Two shots under the basket he goes up lamely and gets the ball smoothered, not even a block was necessary as there was no airtime.
Is that the same Davidson?
I thought the commentators called him Davis (need to get my hearing checked LOL).
Where did he get all the hair?
But you're right, passed it.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
19:17 26 Oct 15

Reply #558535

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Passed it when he should have shot it


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:17 26 Oct 15

Reply #558538

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"The way the game was managed at the end by the Hawks - Coenraad shooting, really? and Lisch three when margin was two. Where was Penney or Forman this whole time at a crucial stretch."

Pretty sure I remember Penney and Foreman bricking threes in the last minute.


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Dazz
Two years ago
19:18 26 Oct 15

Reply #558539

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

What was up with Reddeg? Tired? Sick? Or just an off night?
Missed most of his shots, had little impact, and (probably as a consequence) had less minutes than usual.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:19 26 Oct 15

Reply #558541

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dazz how long have you been following NBL for? Davidson has been in it for a decade plus. He is what you can call a passed player.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:21 26 Oct 15

Reply #558546

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dazz - Redhage is old and passed it.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:24 26 Oct 15

Reply #558550

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage has been having a problem scoring for a while. But on Friday night against the Crocs he was the only one keeping us in front. Seemed to be doing it by sheer force of will, hustling and grabbing rebounds everywhere.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:27 26 Oct 15

Reply #558551

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I remember Larry Davidson wearing a bandanna throughout his time at the aptly named Hunter Pirates. That was funny. But that is a team now in the passed.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
19:34 26 Oct 15

Reply #558558

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

"I remember Larry Davidson wearing a bandanna throughout his time at the aptly named Hunter Pirates. That was funny. But that is a team now in the passed."

Haha, that was so good I had to copy & passede it.


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Dazz
Two years ago
19:49 26 Oct 15

Reply #558560

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Dazz how long have you been following NBL for? Davidson has been in it for a decade plus. He is what you can call a passed player.
WTF are you on about?
Davidson has played with a cropped or shaved head (and even a Mohawk IIRC) I just didn't recognise him with all that hair.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:54 26 Oct 15

Reply #558561

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Larry would be pist off for not being recognised despite being a league mainstay.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
20:03 26 Oct 15

Reply #558562

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

He seems a pretty easy going dude so I doubt he'd be too fust.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:07 26 Oct 15

Reply #558564

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Pretty sure one of the Sixer ex-owners Fust'ed a university.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:34 26 Oct 15

Reply #558571

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage simply wont be able to bring it night in night out anymore. Father time never loses.


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sagemania
Two years ago
20:44 26 Oct 15

Reply #558573

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Once Prather gets back Shawn can go back to be the backup SF. His lack of form wont be that much of an issue anymore


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LV
Two years ago
20:55 26 Oct 15

Reply #558576

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Yeah fair point. United and Perth are both stacked. So are NZ. Plenty of stacked rosters. Just seems like Hawks have too much depth to sign someone else.

United do have some fresh faces on their team too, to be fair.


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LV
Two years ago
21:07 26 Oct 15

Reply #558577

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Oh and btw if anyone thinks I've got Melbourne glasses on, check out my post history. I've written plenty in the past 24 hours about Melbourne and Perth. Including one post where I explained why United don't deserve to be clear favourites, even though they are with the bookies.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:12 26 Oct 15

Reply #558583

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Redhage sliding over to the SF position this year is probably a misalignment with him getting older and his movement slowing down. There were times when he was matched up on penney which is a very tough cover for him. He was on and off the court in very short bursts and thus messed with his rhythm. I think he's a player that requires the rhythm of constant involvement /activity so he found it tough.


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Dazz
Two years ago
22:33 26 Oct 15

Reply #558588

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

I bad game doesn't mean he's finished, especially when you consider he saw less minutes cos he was off and the other big guys were on fire.
He's started the season reasonably well, was just off yesterday which is why I asked the question.
I don't know why even semi-intelligent responses seem to be beyond most posters.
And for all those detractors, I challenge you to find a better value 4-point player to come off the bench.
When he backs up the 4 or 3, probably not a big deal either way. Wagstaff is shooting better form outside, Redhage handles the ball better.


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sagemania
Two years ago
16:19 27 Oct 15

Reply #558734

re: Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

Shawn is not finished as a quality player but he most certainly is finished as a star. He can still be a very, very good spark off the bench.


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