Dazz
Years ago

Illawarra Hawks v Perth - Sun 25th 3:00pm AEDT

12:00pm Perth time on GO!
Awesome to be able to watch this game on FTA.

In the post game write-up, there was no mention of Knight being injured, only Jawai, with the comment that "Hopeful all three (Martin, Prather, Jawai) will play on Sunday, but I have to wait for medical advice."
I think we can cover for Jawai, but getting Damo and Prather back becomes critical. Beal played a lot of minutes last night, if he has to back up and do the same again, we're going to struggle.

We can only hope the rumours are true and Gleeson erred on the side of caution with Damo and Prather last night. If they play, assuming Damo is actually ok after his long lay-off, then I think we can do it.
If not, or if Knight is actually injured, then the Hawks are good enough to win this.

Looking forward to seeing Lisch play again, not looking forward to him ripping us a new one from outside. Should be a great game. Hawks have some awesome offensive firepower, and Perth will have to be at their defensive best if they hope to stop them.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

Don't expect it to be close....That's asking for too much in this league.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Another 11 point blowout coming up, just like the last 2 Taipans games.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Illawarra will be expected to win this easy, a full strength Hawks should in my opinion beat perth 9 times out of 10 this year but with perth possibly missing upto four starters well this could be a cricket score, Illawarra have far to many weapons offensively for an ageing perth roster. I think Perth got lucky with their 2 - 0 start. Besides bevo v Gleeson oh please no contest.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

@CJKRobinson
Wildcats injury update: Martin & Prather flew east but likely to miss Hawks game. Cats hopeful on Jawai (quad) & Knight (shoulder) #hardball

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hey blowout troll you're failing so hard with pathetic troll attempts get some better material.

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Dazz  
Years ago

@CJKRobinson
Wildcats injury update: Martin & Prather flew east but likely to miss Hawks game. Cats hopeful on Jawai (quad) & Knight (shoulder) #hardball

Might as well have stayed home.
If Knight's ok and Prather gets up (or Damo) I'd give the Cats a chance, otherwise no hope.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Seriously Knight injured again? Childress is the new Knight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is Perths roster really that much older than Illawarras?

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Train  
Years ago

I was tipping Illawarra even before all the additional injuries to Perth but hey who knows.

If Jawai, Knight, Martin and Prather sit this one out we will most likely be looking at a starting lineup of Kenny, Beal, Hire, Redhage and Jervis with Wroe, Vague and Wagstaff coming off the bench(can't remember who the other development player was).

Thats a real tough ask considering Hawks will be close to full strength and in good form. Ogilvy should have a field day.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Illawarra were already favs long before Perth had injuries.
Let's hope the Perth softies lose another one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maybe perth can give the assistant coach some court time la la Wollongong Hawks when they had a major injury crisis some four seasons ago, ironically against perth guess u could say this could be a get square for Hawks. As they say what goes around comes around.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Maybe perth can give the assistant coach some court time
Perth actually cam close many years back, when Mike Ellis was newly retired and working at the Team Manager. We had so many injuries that he actually got fitted out and suited up, but in the end somebody came good and he didn't play.

Where is Brad Robbins when we need him???

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Anonymous  
Years ago

on tv

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Dazz  
Years ago

Illawarra were already favs long before Perth had injuries.
Let's hope the Perth softies lose another one.
Yeah?
And when exactly was that dickcheese?
Martin was been injured for months. ROFL.

And if Perth lose, because they're without 3 or 4 of their starting 5, how exactly does that make them soft?

Come on, hating Perth is easy, at least put SOME effort into it, and come up with something pithy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

They hate because you keep biting.

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#903 Perth weren't really responsible for that injury crisis game so not sure why "getting square" or "what goes around comes around" applies. I think the phrase you wanted as "wow, what a coincidence!"

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Cats dying off very quickly, Hawks will win this and it'll be done by the half for mine...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isn't it interesting how every team has problems, injuries, issues with form and a tough schedule they all have to deal with causing so many ups and downs at the start of this NBL season!

Oh, wait, Melbourne don't................

#whofixedthedraw

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RMQ  
Years ago

Rumour mill: Bevo on a one year contract as he will move back west wi the a naturalised Lisch next season.

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captain obvious  
Years ago

epic if true rmq

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is de lisch suiting up today? Would be fun watching he and dolla go head to head

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rmq don't tease me like that. That would be A dream come true. But don't bevo and Marvin have beef? Also i thought bevo was a guy with more of a long term outlook. A program builder. Not the guy who hops around from team to team

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol think u will find the more likely scenario is Martin and knight joining bevo at illawarra next year.

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RMQ  
Years ago

I believe cats management would welcome Bevo back if it was the right fit.

The right fit being that he brings Lisch with him.

As a fan. I'd like to see Bevo back only if Lisch is naturalised as well.

The Bevo era wildcats teams were successful, but boring with no athletic players,

Expect a big shake up if the cats miss the playoffs this season.

Also add a new Brisbane team in the mix diluting the talent pool.

Changes could be a foot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As for Lisch he spoke on the local news and hinted he maybe keen in buying a house in the illawarra.

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LV  
Years ago

Did I read that Lisch's wife and her family are from Sydney?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think when we look back over this era in the history books the wildcats sacking of bevo for Gleeson will look very very bad. Cats to have their playoff streak broken and bevo to keep attracting the players and winning titles.

Rmq you call bevo style unathletic week that was more a function of the recruiting and dollars available at the time these days clubs are spending bigger

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Lish's wife is from he gong he its going anywhere.

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Hardwood Hero  
Years ago

RMQ, I thought the same thing. Why would Bevo & Lisch only sign 1yr deals, They're coming home...

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Train  
Years ago

Bevy's family is still living in and based in Perth. If an offer is thrown his way by Perth I think its a no brainer as to where he will go.

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Train  
Years ago

Sorry I mean Bevo

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Bevo would know that Spenceley treats the Hawks as a play thing and his interest will die off pretty quickly. He won't want to put himself or his guys through another meltdown like they went through at West Sydney.

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Natural is better  
Years ago

Back to the topic of the game, is there any final information on injuries and who will play?

From the NBL site it says Lisch is a starter and Rhys Martin is subject to a fitness test.

How about on the Wildcats side?

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RMQ  
Years ago

Just want to clarify. I'm neither for or against Bevo moving.

I'm just relaying rumours. And that's all it is.

Yes Bevo was constrained by money, club recruiting etc. I'd like to see what he does with a blank canvas (for example a team that misses the playoffs for the first time in 30 years).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol. Wishful thinking that Bevo has any interest in coaching the Wildcats again. Hates Marvin with a passion. Just love these suddenly desperate Perth dans clutching at straws.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Haha tend to agree, someone says something and everyone just jumped on it! everyone for the Hawks signed 1 year deals this season as far as I remember. To do with restructuring there contracts to survive. Anyways this will hopefully be a better game than I think, but if even half the guys the Cats say are injured are out, it'll be ugly Hawks are clicking, sharing the ball and enjoying the style buying into Bevo's system.

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Kaiju  
Years ago

Lol "desperate Perth fans"? I think more respect for Bevo as a quality coach than anything else. Sounds like Anon has some sour grapes...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bevo won't be back he was sacked despite winning due to style. Big slap in the face from Marvin the tool. Also all Hawks are on single year deals. Horrible rumour lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sour or not I think he is right that the bridges between Marvin & Bevo are burned to the ground so forget about that ever happening. Those are two proud and stubborn men.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Bevo won't be back he was sacked despite winning due to style"

If that is true then I don't expect Gleeson to survive October. His style is far worse then Bevo. Look what Bevo is doing now that he has the right players. Very entertaining basketball. Also how is any coach supposed to play entertaining basketball if the CEO keeps hanging him Martin, Hire, Redhage, Knight, Wagstaff, etc. That's like saying your going to dominate the paint this season and then going out and recruiting Ben Allen and Luke Schenscher.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Apparently the big tip is Bevo will coach Boomers after Rio, meaning he cant coach in NBL. I suggested he could do dual roles, but Boti said on twitter that FIBA qualification process is changing - coach needs to be full time

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Correct anon 995 it's called the arrogance of Nick Marvin. Then he hand picks Gleeson and doesn't say a word despite the style being the same if not worse. Enjoy your current predicament Nick, after all you caused it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Exactly. Illawarra are playing some of the fastest pace basketball out there, very easy on the eyes. Let's not forget they are the only side to rack up 100 and that was without lisch. If you want boring how does 35pts in the last 3 quarters suit you? Bevo is miles ahead of gleeson as coach don't get it twisted just because gleeson was able to win a title with a huge talent advantage over the rest of the league. Once other teams started spending and recruiting better he's been exposed.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Where did this Beveridge sacked talk start? He left because he wanted the Boomers gig. And the Wildcats were good to watch under Beveridge - actually had players who could hit 3-pointers.

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fan  
Years ago

I will go for Hawks in this one. The true test will be the type of game (low scoring or high scoring) it will be. If it is say 35-33 at the half the wildcats are controlling the game with their unique style of boring ball. If Hawks are 40 points plus at the half they are looking good because we know the wildcats struggle to score 60 in 40 minutes.

RMQ makes an interesting point about unathletic teams of Bevo. Today's personnel would be better, but would they shoot the ball well enough for Bevo system to work?
There is no doubt Bevo is a better coach than Gleeson. With Lisch naturalised.. WOW.. Just the 3pt shooter we need!

Even better would be Brian Goorjian, or if we can really dream.. How about Obradovic?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gleeson won a title basically with Bevo's system, and Bevo's core local players. Add star import Bevo never had and timimg luck with Cedric missing a year from NZ Breakers and you ship a ring. Nick Marvin no doubt though himself a genius back then well how about now it's all crumbling as expected when you ride the fumes of a predecessor.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wildcats view Bevo went for Boomers gig but said to Cats if he doesn't get it he wants to remain Cats head coach but the club didn't offer a deal.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

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Wildcats couldn't sit around and wait for the decision. They had roster decisions to make etc. No problem Bevo going for gig, but club cant sit and wait, it was the correct call. Whether or not Gleeson was correct decision is another story - I think winning a championship justifies it, even though it was on the back of James Ennis.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Timing wasn't an issue they thought they could do better and used it as an excuse to replace him.

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Bevo was stepping away from coaching for a while, regardless. He was not sacked, due to his style or otherwise. All these anons can keep inventing as much stuff as they want to.

And the one who said its all crumbling away as expected? What, you picked a team that has been in the playoffs for thirty years to miss a year, and you think it proves something, after one loss? What an idiot.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

How would we/you know that? Why can't we just take Marvin and Beveridge at their word. Why do we need an ulterior motive.

We humans love a good conspiracy story thats for sure

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That isn't to say the club did everything perfectly either. But this "Marvib sacked him his a tool" nonsense is complete bullshit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In 2013 Lemanis was named Boomers coach in what late April?

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WV, that isn't quite right. You have got your timings mixed up.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Super
I could be wrong - It's happened once or twice before - but my understanding was Beveridge contract was up in June, Boomers job given to Lemanis late April, club already had deal with Gleeson but couldn't announce officially until Bevo contract was up.

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Do we know who is playing for Perth yet? Jawai, Prather and Martin all big question marks at this point.

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No I don't think that was the case. Between the pressure of battling Lemanis for the Boomers gig, and the (unfair) pressure coming from the club of "title or else", Bevo was not enjoying coaching. He wanted time off but the club decided to move on instead.

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Martin is out, Prather is warming up, no news on Jawai yet.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bevo coming back to the Cats makes sense. His family lives in Perth and he was probaly the most popular Cats coach amongst the fans since Cal

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Prather confirmed out

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Jawai in

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Train  
Years ago

From Twitter : " WILDCATS ALERT: Martin (calf) and Prather (knee) will remain out for today's game. Knight (shoulder) and Jawai (quad) will suit up. Wroe in. "

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Train  
Years ago

Dunno if its a good idea risking Jawai and Knight if they are already carrying injuries. The season is still young.

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Mel O'McKarona  
Years ago

Major backcourt issues again hey.

Wroe is me!
- Gleeson

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Going to be a bit of a small vs tall game. If Ogilvy can contain the bigs, this could get pretty ugly for Perth.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Knight's shoulder wont get worse, not sure about Jawai however. I assume he 100% considering how cautious they've been with Martin.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

We need the Hawks shot to be off today

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Yeah, REALLY off! Like, Greg Hire-level off.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Anyway, I'm fine with effectively writing this one off as a loss if it means not taking injury risks.
Being 2-2 after 2 home & 2 away games is hardly a disastrous position.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

i mean if the Crocs can beat Wildcats at home, anythings possible.

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LV  
Years ago

If Illawarra have an off shooting night, then anything could happen.

If Illawarra can shoot the ball well, or even at a decent level, then they should win comfortably.

This Perth lineup is unlikely to be able to keep pace with Illawarra in a run and gun, fast paced game. Hawks will have too much firepower. If Perth can control the pace, turn it into a bump and grind half court affair, control the ball, ie: limit turnovers, and hope that none of Illawarra's shooters go off, that would all put them right in the game.

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KingJames  
Years ago

Wildcats views cheers for the player updates

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No Prather, Damo nd a struggling Jawai and Knight=Perth loss

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Agreed LV - Knight will struggle defending Forman out on perimeter. Hopefully 'Cats can exploit him in the post at the other end. But man there's like 9 guys on that roster capable of hitting 3's at an efficient rate. Scary

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Luuuc  
Years ago

On the flipside there's like 9 guys on our roster incapable of hitting 3's, so that should cancel it out and make for an even contest.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Luuuuc - I'd laugh but the truth hurts

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Where's that dude that predicted the Crocs by 2 the other night. We need a nostradamus type prediction going the Wildcats way

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

King James - no problem, I wish it was better news

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Let it go, I say.
Shit happens, and our health situation right now is indeed shit. Nothing we can do about that today (except play it safe with anyone who is doubtful, to make sure things don't get even worse)

So to me this one is already a loss. It's a free hit at the Hawks. Nothing to lose, except a chunk of money if the Cats happen to get up :p

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

I was going to get on Illawarra at $3.25 for 11+ yesterday (or was it Friday?), but didn't. Now they're out to $2.80, don't think it's worth it.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If Perth had their full team at full strength I would tip them, but they are playing behind the 8ball.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Hawks gambling more than they need to early on. Why give us cheapies until it is proven that your normal honest D won't stifle us?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth looking good but it's early days

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jervis playing well

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sagemania  
Years ago

Perth size is a big factor right now.

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Perth owning the boards.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Terrible inbounds pass

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sagemania  
Years ago

Wagstaff has been terrible for a few games now

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XY  
Years ago

Illawarra have a very scary starting 5 and a very un scary bench.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks are hitting shots out of their asses lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks will cool down but most of their 3 are coming from downright stupid Perth turnovers. Perth cleans that up they are right in it.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

This is a good pace for the Hawks, can Perth keep it up?

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Davidson just getting old? He's been struggling early this season.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Jawai does seem to use his arms a lot on rebounds

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Davidson seems to have no lateral movement or speed

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

13 Fts to 0 LOLOL....

This league is a sham....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Beal da gawd

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

It's hard to get free throws when you run 80% of your possessions on the perimeter.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Foul-wise I'd only have issue with the hand-checking by Perth and the pushing on rebounds. Other than that, it seems about right

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

5 assists for Jawai already.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

Look at a Perth player.....foul...

The Wildcats are the NBL darlings....Like the Rabbitohs are the NRL.

The NBL have to look after Perth, its the cash cow for the NBL....The NBL have to do everything to keep them competitive so the big crowds keep on coming back.

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Ogilvy has to go to Rio!

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Foul count is pretty even. Can't just look at the free throw numbers. Illawarra aren't running a game plan that involves getting to the line every possession, Perth are.

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Train  
Years ago

Don't feed the trolls

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#074, there is no easy way to say this but you're a fucking idiot.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You have to take you're hat off to Knight. This guy is playing through a pretty bad injury.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Terrible Kenny

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Is it just me, or does Jawai look like he's wearing flippers when he runs?

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL FOUL

LOOK AT A PLAYER FOUL...

Breath on a player foul.

No wonder this league is the laughing stock of Australian sport.

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Mystro  
Years ago

What's with the music drowning out the commentators? Horrible...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wroe playing wrell

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Hawks should just go small, run and gun and expose Perth.

Jawai isn't exactly mobile and Knight is moving at snails pace (due to his injuries).

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Train  
Years ago

Perth are doing very well to be only 3 points down.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

26 fouls in 220 minutes of basketball...

HAHAHAHA...LOL @ the NBL....

No wonder only the rejects of world basketball end up here...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks are shooting at well as they can from the 3pt line and perth are stinking it u and it is only a 3t game. All the Cats need to do is cut down the sill turnovers and keep pounding the ball into their bigs and it's anyones game.

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So the slow boring old past-it Cafs have kept up with the high scoring Golden State Hawks for a half, despite being less fresh and undermanned. Can't complain about that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like Bevo has found the on button for ogilvy's ability to be a confident aggressive player

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sagemania  
Years ago

Beal is a pretty good baller!.

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Can the Cats keep it up for a full game though?

Or will the game slow down to a half court grind it out kind of game?

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

26 fouls in 20 minutes of basketball

LOLOLOL...

No wonder this sport almost dies every year

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Baller  
Years ago

I don't know but jawai 7/5/6 at half time is pretty nice! Imagine when he is in better shape..

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Is there an ignore option?

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sagemania  
Years ago

Jawai is pretty much automatic in the low block but right now they are using him as a playmaker of the low post.

He needs to start looking for his shot more and attack AJ to get him into foul trouble!

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Roy Hobbs, no I don't think they can keep it up. I just think the earlier calls that they are finished/can't score etc are way too premature.

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

26 fouls in 20 minutes of basketball?

That is MORE than 1 foul a minute......

What kind of league is this?

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Train  
Years ago

I just went to get a screen cloth for my phone because I thought there was some shite on it , but then I realised it was just another anon post.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can't miss open threes Red

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26 posts in 20 minutes saying the same thing?

What kind of retard are you?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah Nate

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Smart Hire. Very smart

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

4 more fouls in the first 90 secs of the 3rd qtr LOLOLOLOLOL...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What sorcery is this Hire!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We're back baby!

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Train  
Years ago

Wow !! This is turning out to be a cracker of a game

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Blowout Troll  
Years ago

30 secs went by without a foul being called..

I think this is a sign the world is coming to an end.

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sagemania  
Years ago

Knight runs like he is titlting all over the joint,.

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Hey anon, there have also been 23 points scored in three and a half minutes. Who is complaining about that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

holly the shagging sheeps Kenny wow

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

I thought shooting was supposed to be Kenny's thing? Has looked very timid tonight and against us too.

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LV  
Years ago

Very impressed with Beal and Knight.

Kenny is hesitant. Why? He can shoot the 3. Check out NZ vs Aus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jesse en fuego!

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Train  
Years ago

Boom !!! Wagstaff

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Man, this is an offensive showcase for both Teams in the 3rd

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Definitely not the sort of game that you'd expect to see with Perth playing, that's for sure.

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Weeks is so legit.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shambles

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jervy!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WHAT A GAME. BEST GAME OF THE YEAR BY A COUNTRY MILE

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kenny showing why he never had a NBL job prior to this. Just so scared to shoot even when left wide open. Cats doing pretty well considering the guys missing though

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Train  
Years ago

This is a great game to have live on FTA!!

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This game is prettier than Isaacs brother.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redhage is done

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great D Tom

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Nate penalised because of his size.

Terrible

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a load of crap, that was a joke call on jawai

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Anonymous  
Years ago

FFFUUUUUUUUU REFS!!!

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Player  
Years ago

I just knew Jawai would get dicked this season!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Flopphage falls over and wagstaff gets an unsportsmanlike a second later. That is why people hate the wildcats.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dats it Kenny, you gotta always shoot dat!

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So you hate everyone to ever get an USF??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Whats with Knights stupid help D today

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Anonymous  
Years ago

James Harvey is quality

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Man Kenny has such a sweet shot.

We need to run plays to get him spotted up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kenny shutting me up. Two sweet treys and solid D

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Where was this effort from the Cats against the Crocs! The have been pretty easy on the eye today, and high scoring too. Just a great quality game for TV viewing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Matty :(

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mstty knight is hammered. Warrior type performance

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Anonymous  
Years ago

What a game!

Faith in NBL is restored

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Win or lose i feel better about the cats again after watching this

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Anonymous  
Years ago

As someone who is not a perth fan I think tonight win or lose they showed great heart but knight has gained respect in my books.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

HYAH!!!!!!!!!!!11

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who says we can't shoot threes ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Who says we can't shoot threes ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

CATS

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Train  
Years ago

Holy crap!!! Why is Wagstaff not starting over Redhage. And when did Hire learn to shoot ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

In the offseason apparently.

Suddenly looking like a jumpshooting stud

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can the cats finish? They were in a similar position v tsv

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Maty knight putting his body on the line every play despite being sore

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Knight with SO MUCH HEART!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

knight you champion

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Inspirational matty!!

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Train  
Years ago

Knight is a beast

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redhage you doofus

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AGAIN REDHAGE YOU FUCKHEAD

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perths turnovers are keeping the hawk in it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats trying to throw this away!!

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Illawarra have missed some big shots late here.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That's the trio

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Redhage is having a nightmare!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lucky

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Anonymous  
Years ago

perrth giving it away

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Iceman

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Why run that play for Coenraad. Good shooter.

But geez you want Lisch, Forman or Penney stroking that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

PHEW!!

Lisch is having a mare of a shooting game

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Illawarra can only blame themselves if they lose this.
So many opportunities.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth ruining all their hard work by gift wrapping for the hawks

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cats win!!!

W00000000

Love you Matty toughest guy in the league <3

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Hawks had there chances, this one will sting. Redhage is a real issue for the Cats.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hire and Wagstaff need to be banned from passing further than 10m.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth with no DAMO, PARTHER, Knight playing on one hand have shown why they are going to be in the big dance because of heart and guts

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Should have been 4-0

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Matt Knight earned them that win. Huge effort.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Beal took it personally or what? he took lish to school

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Perth most probably wont be in the big dance, but really gutsy win these are the types of wins that make fans come back for more.

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Train  
Years ago

Wow , just wow . That was a brilliant game and a tremendous effort from Perth given their injury problems. My heart is still jumping out of my chest.

I had written this game off before it even started. Faith restored.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

That crocs loss woke up the sleeping giant

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How good is Hire now that he can shoot to add with his tremendous defence?

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another anon  
Years ago

Damn. 2 bigs injured. 2 guards out. And still won on the road. Write them off at your peril.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Healthy Perth and the United are the best two teams in the league!. What a cracker that game on Thursday going to be.

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Callisto 75  
Years ago

Perth showed the heart that Townsville did on Thursday. Matt Knight outstanding. Live by the three die by the three!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Huge smile by the skipper in the post game huddle. Toure of effort that makes you proud!

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I lost $200 but I'll take that win any day of the week.

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Lindsay  
Years ago

Fantastic win!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Same here supernintendo strange feeling lost a bet yet still somehow happy overall

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I just looked at Hires numbers holly cow 13 points and 11 boards

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Callisto 75  
Years ago

Makes up for the loss to Townsville I think.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Loved Harvey's commentary aswell

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rosen is burning hard. NSW boy cant take it. loool

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Natural is better  
Years ago

What does this say about Illawarra? Gave up 106 points to a team with a stinky offense and one of their main weapons glued to the bench in the second half with foul troubles.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Those Cats fans who thought Lisch was better then Beal well I hope you know understand Money bill beal is better

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Player  
Years ago

Amazing game. I am LOVING the NBL this year. Amazing games and talent and great commentary. Loving the mixture of the pro commentator with the past player!

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Yeah weird comment Rosen made about the Hawks being the best team today... Hawks really shouldve been able to close that out at home and the lead. Live by the 3 die by it, both teams best players stood up. Love guys like Beal and Lisch, going at it.

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sagemania  
Years ago

As someone mentioned earlier that Townsville loss was probably the best thing that could have happened to the Cats. Idealy you want to win every game but sometimes you need a kick in the backside to wake you up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Theres no doubting dolla quality but before we rush to pass judgement let's not forget that was lisch first full game this season

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sack Gleeson? ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Was that the best nbl game of the past five years?

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sagemania  
Years ago

Right up there. Two genuine contenders going at it toe to toe all game!

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Roy Hobbs  
Years ago

Damn, what a game. Gutsy effort from Perth. Stifled Hawks 3 point looks at the end and contested everything. It paid off.

Seems Matty wasn't affected too much, monster game by him.

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LV  
Years ago

Brilliant effort by Perth. Game of the year so far and they were excellent. I would not have thought that Perth line up would score over 100 but they did it.

Bench players Wagstaff, Kenny and Hire stood up when it mattered.

Perth deserves favouritism every bit as much as United.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NBL need to get their shit together for the website.

No game report, ladder 2 games behind. Still defaulting to Round 2 for results.

(n)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

So you bet $200 against your own club. Nuff said.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Perth were $2.2 and happy to take that.

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Natural is better  
Years ago

And here come the guys putting their bets on after the game is finished again...

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fan  
Years ago

Wow they scored 100 points in a game.. Great to see and hope it continues !

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Shame you haven't been following the topics.
I thought it was a no brainer and last week I backed the Hawks. That is already history.
So why do you care at all with your 6 comments so far. Clearly I should be concerned ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You can't say "nuff said" when you haven't actually made a point.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A clueless newbie has no opinion. Nuff said.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why does every thread involving Cats fan end in arrogant sarcastic back forth shit.

Great game, awesome product to show off to the Aus public, this league is growing week by week.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Awesome game to watch . I didn't think Perth would get 106 .
Sure thing for playoffs imo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Because people don't like the Cats so they talk as much shit as possible and the threads descend in to this crap.

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Anon  
Years ago

The crap talking comes from both sides, it's not just Cats haters.

It should have no place in this thread, it was an awesome game. I had money on the Hawks, but also the over so half a win haha.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kabe24 said. Cats dying off very quickly, Hawks will win this and it'll be done by the half for mine...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tough going with tipping i predicted a split weekend for cats but like most got them the wrong way round

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Yeah anon, I did say that, with the assumption that Jawai was to miss and potentially Knight. So what your point, they played, it was a great game. IF they hadn't have played id stand by that prediction. Smh...

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sagemania  
Years ago

Perth now faces two massive games that could have a huge bearing on the standings on seasons end. They travel to Melbourne to face the United on Thursday and return for the grudge man on against the Hawks on Sunday.

It will be hard to beat the United without both Damo nd Prather out both if they are both healthy well it is a even money game. The Holt v Beal matchup will be amazing.

If the Cats beat the Hawks again the get the split on the tiebreaker if they finish with the same record. This two games are massive!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow Kobe we don't care and sorry we didn't read the qualifications you didn't put in your post.
Dazz and Kobe facing off in the dumptie awards

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Hey you felt the need to point out my pick directly so just responding to that anon. Weirdo...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No you were wrong and then explained your post. AFTER the event.
Bit like the betting thing eh

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Ok buddy no worries, you were right, I was wrong. Man I bet that feel good eh

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Train  
Years ago

anon 253 - what exactly is your beef ? I'm a cats fan and even I tipped this gane to be over by the half. I don't think Kobe24 has to justify his comments.

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I didn't think they'd win either (glad they did) because of the ongoing injuries, the new ones from Friday, plus the potential for fatigue. Why does getting a prediction wrong need to be justified to a window-licking anon?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cos your a prick who bets against your own side. Simple like you.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Wow, some folks should not be given internet access haha Charming individual, no connection to Cats for life... haha

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Yeah I did. I thought they would lose, and the Hawks were paying reasonable odds. Whats wrong with placing that bet? What difference does it make to you?

Are you in a tipping comp? Do you pick your team to win every game?

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It hasn't been a good day for anons on this forum. The Minda Bus must have free wifi.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Just got done watching that one and man, what a game.
Have to echo what others have said about Matty Knight. He just would not say die. Awesome. Beal was huge too. His stamina is on another level.
Not sure where we found the energy to play that out like that, but it was great to see, and I think it also backs up the NBL's new schedule. Having a day's break makes a noticeable difference compared to back-to-back games on consecutive days.

Commentary and the quality of the telecast overall was good quality.
Hawks would be disappointed though, as the Cats would have been after Friday, for letting that one get away.

Greg Hire was shooting 20% for the season prior to that game. Picked a useful time to go 4/5

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Agreed, that was just a weird little outburst! Well good round of basketball nonetheless, so as a ball fan I'm happy!

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cats 4 life  
Years ago

Hi guy's, I'm back. Great win, Hawks are good if the triples go down, Perth is just Perth! like or hate them just don't bag them, they have been the most consistent team for 29 years, hate them but you have to respect them.

kobe24 you are a bit of a duse bag!

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Ahh what timing! Ive been called worse...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm a fan of the duse bag http://www.beyondtherack.com/product/BEN73021DUSEBK?category=1 I can see why its sold out.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

You're a fine looking sort, K24.
I had no idea you were black.

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sagemania  
Years ago

You would think so far the top four teams are in order


United
Wildcats
Hawks
36ERS



right now. If Perth beats the United they go on top. I think after a few more games and once the 6ers new import settles in they could be challenging Perth and the United for top spot.

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Maxymoo  
Years ago

I didn't think we could do it today Kobe but hey we're not anon know alls.

Gutsy win.

Just wish Gleeson would STFU.

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LV  
Years ago

Lol @ this forum.

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indoorkite  
Years ago

All for betting against your team if the odds are good, creates a win/win situation. Your team wins, you're happy, they lose, you cash in, happy days fellas.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why are people writing off NZ?

Top 4 will be

United
NZ
Melb
And Adelaide/Cairns/Illawara

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Train  
Years ago

Probably the same reason you are writing off Perth lol

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sagemania  
Years ago

NZ has lost to Perth, Hawks and the 6ers so far this season. How can you put them in the top 4 as of right now?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

"All for betting against your team if the odds are good, creates a win/win situation. Your team wins, you're happy, they lose, you cash in, happy days fellas."

It works even better for Perth punters because Perth has a lot of basketball fans and the Cats traditionally get a lot of money their way, so I find that our odds tend to be shorter than I think they "deserve" to be.

I got today wrong too but still think it was a smart bet.
As I said yesterday
"That's my favourite type of bet ... I'd be happy to lose my money if the Cats can pull out a road win."

Very happy this evening :)

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Luuuc  
Years ago

"NZ has lost to Perth, Hawks and the 6ers so far this season. How can you put them in the top 4 as of right now?"

More to the point, how can you have 2 spots in the top 4 being taken by Melbourne? They are the same team as United last time I checked ;)

I expect NZ to be in the mix by the business end of the season. I think it's pretty pointless getting too carried away with arguing over top 4 predictions at this early stage though.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Here's my recap of today's beautiful game

http://wildcatsviews.com/2015/10/25/perth-wildcats-stunning-win-over-illawarra-hawks/

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sagemania  
Years ago

Melbourne is 5-0. NZ is 2-3.BTW I did say if Perth wins on Thursday they will go on top.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fair dinkum this season has been a funny one. Perth beats Adelaide and the Hawks on the road and the champs at home but loses to the Crocs of all teams in perth? lol

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Kaiju  
Years ago

I personally don't see a reason why people are bagging out Kobe24 for his predictions, it was just his general opinion on how the game would go, as much as I don't always agree with Kobe24 he has a right to share his thoughts

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Anonymous  
Years ago

@WIldcats views

"The Wildcats, led by Jermaine Beal and a banged up Matt Knight, eventually grabbed the lead but then almost threw the game away - literally – turning the ball over on four consecutive possessions late in the contest – three of those turnovers by Jesse Wagstaff."

Sure you didn't mean Redhage?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Also love your analysis Wildcats views, very well written, comprehensive and a great read.

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Wildcats views  
Years ago

Thanks for the kind words.

Regarding turnovers, Wagstaff made three errors, Redhage made that one on the baseline throw.

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Bear  
Years ago

It is games like this, the huge upset wins, the massive individual efforts, injured players willing their team over the line and the unpredictability of the games that is making the league excellent viewing this season, great stuff!

#hardballonhardfloors

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Bear  
Years ago

@Wildcats Views I liked your recap, I thought rebounds really won it for the Wildcats last night, I also watched Nate Jawi play closely, at times he was giving up fouls that were let go so while he may be unlucky to have been given his 5th in that game I think I counted about 20 on him and against him...

That's a hard one, becuase it is so qhysical in the post, especially when he plays, that officials can't actually call it as they see it or he would be off with 5 fouls and his opponent would have 4 in the first 10 minutes of most games.

So, what we are seeing is tollerance, which in basketball terms means inconsistent officiating, but I can't see what else they can do at this stage, can you?

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Isaac  
Years ago

Sad finish by the Hawks who got rattled once Perth took the lead. Some questionable shots at the end - seen some mentions of Coenraad's, but the worst for me was Lisch's off balance, long two when they could've used a safer option.

Perth's rebounding and interior D was just too strong.

Knight was a warrior. Hopefully anyone who doesn't get why he keeps making All-NBL teams watched that.

Interesting thing is that the Cats might've expected to go 1-1 that round, backing up against the Hawks. Still went 1-1 after the Crocs horror, but this will prove to be a more useful 1-1 as it gives the win to the Crocs (predicted to struggle) and denies one to the Hawks (tipped to finish higher up the ladder).

No Hawks starter played more than 28 minutes. Ogilvy had 21 points with no fouls. 8/12 FG. Like Gleeson earlier in the round, did Bevo coast too much and pay the price?

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LV  
Years ago

Poor rebounding killed the Hawks.

Ogilvy, Forman and Ellis played a combined 68 minutes and only got 4 defensive rebounds.

Perth had one less offensive rebound than Illawarra got defensive: 15 to 16.

It's rare that a team would lose a basketball game with keeping turnovers to 9 and shooting a load of 3's at over 40%. But when you get mauled inside that's what happens. This will be interesting seeing how United cope with Perth's size and presence on Thursday.

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Bear  
Years ago

So, can we say that the styles were kind of opposite between these two and that's just where they are at.

Perth's inside game opens up its perimeter shooting and opportunities outside the arc, while the Hawks tend to rely on their 3 point shooters and hope that the inside game is good enough to pick up the scraps?

Kind of the way it worked out in this game too, I think... So, Melbourne have a similar game to the Hawks, well then the Perth v Melbourne game should be a douzy.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

All I know after all the analyizing it this would make one hell of a playoff series!

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skull  
Years ago

while i like Bevo's free style offence....as the coach surely he should have taken more control in that last 2 minutes??
Poor coaching down the stretch !!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great sign for Perth to be missing 2 of its starters and play a game like that!

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NBL #1 Fan  
Years ago

Martin should be playing on Thursday.

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While Bevo's game plan is high octane offence, with almost all players having the green light from beyond the arc, the difference between the Hawks team and his previous Cats team is that he doesn't have the rebounders to negate any misses.

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Bear  
Years ago

I will agree^ and suggest Melbourne, although they also tend to jack up quite a few threes at least have some more rebounding strength, especially with Majok Majok.

This is why my early call for an NBL final series is Perth V Melbourne, but to be honest who knows how it will end up this season, upsets in the finals could blow that prediction out the park!

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LV  
Years ago

Agree with the above two posts.

The other difference between United and Illawarra in terms of player personnel is that Goulding gives them an elite one on one scorer who can break the team out of a funk in a spectacular fashion.

Illawarra has nothing comparable to Goulding in terms of the way he can score. Penney is still a sweet shooter but you can see he's lost a step when he tries to go one on one- has committed many turnovers like that this season. Lisch gives them that to an extent, but he’s nowhere near the scorer Goulding is. So when Melbourne has an off shooting night from outside in terms of their catch and shoot, Goulding will be more capable of breaking them out of it by going against his man in a one on one.

Although, to be fair, Illawarra does have more 3 point shooters than Melbourne does.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You guys talking about bevos offense are missing the point. They gave up 106 to a team that has poor skills and only scored 63 two days earlier

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Bear  
Years ago

And how many did the opposition score anon^?

Yes, it was an offensively minded, attacking and high scoring game, no one is saying otherwise, so what is your point of emphasis on how this happened?

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Missing what point? We are specifically talking about Bevo's offence, and the pros and cons of it.

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sagemania  
Years ago

I will take a healthy or even semi healthy Knight over AJ, Jawai or Kickert or anyother big in Australia every day of the week and twice on a sunday!. He does so much for his team it's not funny. He will never be a spectacular highlight reel player but there is no one better who can get the job done day in day out. Typical meat and potatos guy.

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sagemania  
Years ago

Bevos offence is generated from trap and press defence. Get steals and run the court and pushe it down the other teams throat either via the 3pt line or open court fast break points.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You guys are saying bevo offense has shortcomings in not having as good rebounding as perth or Melbourne. The offense is damn good they are piling on the points. There nothing wrong with it at all it is championship calibre. The defense and rebounding however Is not at that level

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Hawks officially blew it.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/illawarra-hawks-admit-they-blew-it-in-loss-to-perth-wildcats-20151025-gki4vv.html
Rebound count is a worry for sure

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"Thanks for the kind words.

Regarding turnovers, Wagstaff made three errors, Redhage made that one on the baseline throw."

And Redhage got te ball stolen/poked away when he was trying to dribble up the court which makes 2 and I'm sure there was a third.

I commented in this thread at the time.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Said it many times since this Hawks team came together. Team needs an athletic defensive rebounder who can play the 4 spot and maybe one spot up or down. 6'8" ish with little offense. Plenty of those types available because they are raw offensively. Use the second import spot on one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Mike Dunigan

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LV  
Years ago

If the salary cap means anything, then surely they couldn't sign another import in addition to the signings of Lisch, Penney and Ogilvy?

With the points cap, having so many players who have been with Wollongong for 5+ years (Coenraad, Demos, Davidson, Forman) they'd have a lot of loyalty discounts?

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Isaac  
Years ago

From the article above:

"We are going to learn from this experience. The guys are gutted," Beveridge said.

"They are very disappointed because I thought we were the better team the whole time.

"I thought our game plan was good.

"It is hard down the stretch when we do spend time going this is how we are going to close the game out and we just didn't."
Doubt they'll rush to mess with the roster. Weeks is doing very well, Martin is going to come back desperate to knock Weeks out of his spot, Lisch and Penney didn't have brilliant games, Ellis was better, etc.

If they'd just been a bit smarter in the end game, they would've won that.

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koberulz  
Years ago

Or if Forman and Coenraad hadn't missed two or three wide open threes in the final couple of minutes, even.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow what a game. Bevo is at least an honest coach and admitted they threw that one away.

But I felt like as some said above Cats had to pull it out from three point land to get it done and they did.

There was a period after Kenny openly declined to shoot threes he hits two in a row sweetly and Wagstaff pulls two out of nowhere as well. WTF!

Biggest WTF that hassn't mentioned here (can't believe it!) is Lisch going for a hero three to win it instead of driving or kicking off for a two to tie it to at least go to OT? This was when Hawks down by 99-101... FAIL!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

00:22 11, K. Lisch, 3pt jump shot missed 99-101

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"If the salary cap means anything, then surely they couldn't sign another import in addition to the signings of Lisch, Penney and Ogilvy?"

Hakim Warrick
Stephen Holt
Chris Goulding
Daniel Kickert
Todd Blanchfield
David Barlow

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha. LV wearing his Melbourne goggles as usual. He had form.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Haha nice Anon

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Anonymous  
Years ago

K. Lisch massive fail with the hero three. Take it into overtime geez

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Watching the replay.

Larry Davidson is passed it. Two shots under the basket he goes up lamely and gets the ball smoothered, not even a block was necessary as there was no airtime.

O boards for Hawks - Wildcats at two stages went 0/2 from the line but got the o board and score.

The way the game was managed at the end by the Hawks - Coenraad shooting, really? and Lisch three when margin was two. Where was Penney or Forman this whole time at a crucial stretch.

Game seemed to swing to the Cats with the do over before three quarter time. Someone screwed up (cheeky Hawks scorers bench?) and then Jervis hits the buzzer beater with the reset play.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

If i have kevin lisch open for a go ahead 3 any single day of the year im taking it and living with the results. You dont bring in star players to play it safe when they have made a career out taking the hero ball and making it. Cmon now...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You forgot he was underdone just coming back from full fitness. He wasn't driving to the basket as much because of it and settling for the three. The last hero three was him settling for it as he is just coming back from injury. Forman Penney get them the rock not Coenradd (lol) or an underdone Lisch.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Forgot to add Kobe24 agreed in general but Lisch is still recovering underdone slightly, also bare in mind you have Penney on the roster and Forman.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Awesome game, just one of those rare ones where several players all have exceptional games together.
I don't know if you could perhaps put it down to motivation from the earlier drubbing, but Beal, Knight, Hire and Wagstaff all had massive games. Whilst for the Hawks Lisch had a great first game back, and Ogilvy, Weeks, and Ellis were all exceptional.

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Air Goorjian  
Years ago

Dolla BEALLLLLL is the real deal, for real, he had Lisch for a meal.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah Dolla owned but also took it to Lisch knowing he had just come back from injury, good move.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Larry Davidson is passed it. Two shots under the basket he goes up lamely and gets the ball smoothered, not even a block was necessary as there was no airtime.
Is that the same Davidson?
I thought the commentators called him Davis (need to get my hearing checked LOL).
Where did he get all the hair?
But you're right, passed it.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Passed it when he should have shot it

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Anonymous  
Years ago

"The way the game was managed at the end by the Hawks - Coenraad shooting, really? and Lisch three when margin was two. Where was Penney or Forman this whole time at a crucial stretch."

Pretty sure I remember Penney and Foreman bricking threes in the last minute.

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Dazz  
Years ago

What was up with Reddeg? Tired? Sick? Or just an off night?
Missed most of his shots, had little impact, and (probably as a consequence) had less minutes than usual.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dazz how long have you been following NBL for? Davidson has been in it for a decade plus. He is what you can call a passed player.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Dazz - Redhage is old and passed it.

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Nathan of Perth  
Years ago

Redhage has been having a problem scoring for a while. But on Friday night against the Crocs he was the only one keeping us in front. Seemed to be doing it by sheer force of will, hustling and grabbing rebounds everywhere.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I remember Larry Davidson wearing a bandanna throughout his time at the aptly named Hunter Pirates. That was funny. But that is a team now in the passed.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

"I remember Larry Davidson wearing a bandanna throughout his time at the aptly named Hunter Pirates. That was funny. But that is a team now in the passed."

Haha, that was so good I had to copy & passede it.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Dazz how long have you been following NBL for? Davidson has been in it for a decade plus. He is what you can call a passed player.
WTF are you on about?
Davidson has played with a cropped or shaved head (and even a Mohawk IIRC) I just didn't recognise him with all that hair.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Larry would be pist off for not being recognised despite being a league mainstay.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

He seems a pretty easy going dude so I doubt he'd be too fust.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty sure one of the Sixer ex-owners Fust'ed a university.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redhage simply wont be able to bring it night in night out anymore. Father time never loses.

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sagemania  
Years ago

Once Prather gets back Shawn can go back to be the backup SF. His lack of form wont be that much of an issue anymore

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LV  
Years ago

Yeah fair point. United and Perth are both stacked. So are NZ. Plenty of stacked rosters. Just seems like Hawks have too much depth to sign someone else.

United do have some fresh faces on their team too, to be fair.

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LV  
Years ago

Oh and btw if anyone thinks I've got Melbourne glasses on, check out my post history. I've written plenty in the past 24 hours about Melbourne and Perth. Including one post where I explained why United don't deserve to be clear favourites, even though they are with the bookies.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Redhage sliding over to the SF position this year is probably a misalignment with him getting older and his movement slowing down. There were times when he was matched up on penney which is a very tough cover for him. He was on and off the court in very short bursts and thus messed with his rhythm. I think he's a player that requires the rhythm of constant involvement /activity so he found it tough.

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Dazz  
Years ago

I bad game doesn't mean he's finished, especially when you consider he saw less minutes cos he was off and the other big guys were on fire.
He's started the season reasonably well, was just off yesterday which is why I asked the question.
I don't know why even semi-intelligent responses seem to be beyond most posters.
And for all those detractors, I challenge you to find a better value 4-point player to come off the bench.
When he backs up the 4 or 3, probably not a big deal either way. Wagstaff is shooting better form outside, Redhage handles the ball better.

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sagemania  
Years ago

Shawn is not finished as a quality player but he most certainly is finished as a star. He can still be a very, very good spark off the bench.

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