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Anonymous
Two years ago

#38338

NBL Commentators

I'm hearing Corey Williams is the next addition to the boys club at Foxtel to a call NBL.

I'm told the person in charge of selecting the callers is a former nbl player. Foxtel management pulling his puppets strings with the help of Shane Heal. He is endorsing the few basketball friends that he haven't shafted and owe money.

Love to see ex nbl players call the games without bringing in their own agenda or ego. Unlike the current Boys Club who are calling the games!!


And to have AFL & NRL commentators calling NBL games is a disgrace!

Good choice Foxtel. NOT!!


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Matt
Two years ago
23:39 29 Oct 15

Reply #559700

re: NBL Commentators

Homicide is bitter towards Gleeson and doesn't like Perth it was obvious in his call tonight.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:43 29 Oct 15

Reply #559702

re: NBL Commentators

Seem a little bit too sour about Homicide commentating, not a Perth fan by any chance.


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hm
Two years ago
23:52 29 Oct 15

Reply #559704

re: NBL Commentators

I don't care about those dynamics, but Corey was craps on the Mic and should just concentrate on his game. I thought his big talk would translate on commentary.. it didn't


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RMQ
Two years ago
23:53 29 Oct 15

Reply #559705

re: NBL Commentators

Who cares if a commentator is biased.

U can clearly tell when a commentator is obviously biased.

What does it matter.

If u can tell they are being biased then congratulations on not being stupid and thinking they aren't.

Enjoy them for the character they are being on screen.

The league needs more antagonists and protagonists to promote rivalries.

Without emotional investment there's no interest. People like homicide create that tension and draw a line in the sand. It's good. The league needs characters.


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XY
Two years ago
23:54 29 Oct 15

Reply #559706

re: NBL Commentators

I didn't really warm to him unfortunately. Though he definitely had passion, he was a bit of a repetitive soundtrack even if United can't grab a rebound to save themselves.

The AFL & NRL boys club on the other hand are doing a fine job for mine, generally a big step up in professionalism.


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koberulz
Two years ago
23:55 29 Oct 15

Reply #559707

re: NBL Commentators

It went pretty much how I expected it to go, which wasn't well. He, Bruton and Robbins are pretty bad. Heal's been alright, Rucker's been fantastic, Greer has been really good when he doesn't have to say "Hadziomerovic". Rosen wasn't great but was an improvement on last year.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:55 29 Oct 15

Reply #559708

re: NBL Commentators

Hardly big news it's an ex-Razorback player that's why Rucker Harvey et al. are involved although they are standouts so what's the issue? Everyone has connections.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:15 30 Oct 15

Reply #559712

re: NBL Commentators

I think it's Leigh Carlson used to play for West Sydney or at least it was him back when the NBL was last on Fox.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:15 30 Oct 15

Reply #559713

re: NBL Commentators

XY - The AFL & NRL boys club on the other hand are doing a
fine job for mine, generally a big step up in
professionalism.

(doing a fine job. a step up in professionalism.)
You got to be kidding!! It shows a lack of respect to basketball by having nrl & afl guys calling basketball games particularly when its finally back on tv.

Now is the perfect time to have guys calling NBL games that know basketball language and can explain to the viewers how a play involved from start to execution or describe a basketball players skills.

Shoulder tackle lingo or thats a fantastic mark isnt going to excite the basketball viewers.


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koberulz
Two years ago
00:19 30 Oct 15

Reply #559715

re: NBL Commentators

Which basketball play-by-play specialists do you think should be doing it? There aren't any.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:25 30 Oct 15

Reply #559717

re: NBL Commentators

If its Carlson then the Boys Club of Rucker,Harvey,Heal,Corey,Howarth,carfino despite being shafted by Foxtel..is in full swing especially at the nearest bar/night club after the game for the post game drinks.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:30 30 Oct 15

Reply #559718

re: NBL Commentators

Koberulz

If their aren't any play-by-play specialist then why are you asking the question?


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Rat10
Two years ago
00:37 30 Oct 15

Reply #559719

re: NBL Commentators

I agree Homicide was painful to listen to tonight. The amount of times he said "down the stretch"...Arrrgg

What's Ricky Grace doing? I remember he did some commentary around 10 years ago and really enjoyed his insight. Also miss Gaze of course.


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koberulz
Two years ago
00:54 30 Oct 15

Reply #559722

re: NBL Commentators

If their aren't any play-by-play specialist then why are you asking the question?
Because people keep complaining about the play-by-play guys we have. It was a rhetorical response to the Anon directly above it.


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paul
Two years ago
00:57 30 Oct 15

Reply #559723

re: NBL Commentators

Isaac, is the OP the same IP as 'blowout anon' by any chance?


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Luuuc
Two years ago
01:16 30 Oct 15

Reply #559728

re: NBL Commentators

How many games has Homicide called?
If that was one of his first then I'm happy to cut him some slack. Yes he was certainly too repetitive on some things, but that type of thing can be ironed out. Had some entertaining moments too I thought. I didn't mind at all that he got a bit personal at times. He still called the action in front of him as he saw it.


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LV
Two years ago
06:50 30 Oct 15

Reply #559746

re: NBL Commentators

It's funny that ppl are complaining about Homicides dis like for Perth.

Memo: a lot of ppl don't like Perth!

My fav commentator so far is Harvey.


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Isaac
Two years ago
07:01 30 Oct 15

Reply #559748

re: NBL Commentators

paul, no, it's another one.

This OP however complains about jobs-for-the-boys with basketball people commentating, and also complains about non-basketball people commentating. Wow, that's something.

I've found the non-basketball (let's just call them Professional Commentators, because that's how they've approached this) commentators to be quite good - very enthusiastic and quite knowledgeable.

Surely they should be judged on their merits and not their backgrounds!

Most of the ex-players in there as sidekicks have been good too. Heal, Rucker, Harvey, etc are all decent.

I muted Robbins and have managed to avoid CJ.


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Avv
Two years ago
07:49 30 Oct 15

Reply #559754

re: NBL Commentators

Homicide swore a couple of times during last night's call which is not ideal and he can leave the "I'm tellin' ya" being said over and over at home. It's like he was in some battle with dwayne Russell.

The street punk rap trash talking style of commentating isn't really needed in a game that is striving for further credibility and relevance.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
08:06 30 Oct 15

Reply #559756

re: NBL Commentators

LV, even more people disliked the Tigers but you never heard any other commentator openly cheer against them.


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Sixers Fan
Two years ago
08:23 30 Oct 15

Reply #559759

re: NBL Commentators

I thought Homicide was very entertaining last night. It was his first game commentating so he will get better. But his lively personality really sparked up a grind it out game. The other commentator kept reminding us Homicide was with him every 5 minutes though.


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Avv
Two years ago
08:25 30 Oct 15

Reply #559761

re: NBL Commentators

Any casual fan tuning in who's unaware of the street style language that can be associated with basketball would be quickly turned off.

Also, do we need to be referring to a commentator as "Homicide" over and over? Any young children watching may be a little confused as to what is going on there.

Unfortunately an unprofessional display last night in my opinion. Dwayne Russell did well under the circumstances.


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Bear
Two years ago
08:36 30 Oct 15

Reply #559766

re: NBL Commentators

So, what we want, if I am not mistaken is this:

Commentators who are entertaining, know the game, the players, the coaches and all their systems, idiosyncrasies and history, don't annoy us but at the same time have a cool US style basketball accent, don't keep repeating themselves or referring to each other like we have the attention span of a gold fish, don't swear, have respect and show some class, but at the same time have passion and an independently unbiased view of the game and every team in the NBL?

Shouldn't be too hard to find at least one of those in the time frame the new NBL has been delivered one would think, now would it...

#BEREALISTICANDHAVEPATIENCE


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LV
Two years ago
08:44 30 Oct 15

Reply #559769

re: NBL Commentators

Bear , great post.

I'm not fussed about the US accent though.

Agree with your point. This will take time.

I'm willing to accept the cringe worthy bits (eg Homicides unprofessional moments, Russell putting a bad play from 8 or 9 year NBL veteran Brad Hill down to "inexperience" etc). It'll get better with time


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LV
Two years ago
08:50 30 Oct 15

Reply #559772

re: NBL Commentators

The other comment I'd make is: bring back Gaze!

He's funny and insightful.

I think we all know why he's not there though...


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Isaac
Two years ago
08:55 30 Oct 15

Reply #559775

re: NBL Commentators

Also, do we need to be referring to a commentator as "Homicide" over and over? Any young children watching may be a little confused as to what is going on there.
Very young children will likely miss it or not know what it means. Any teenagers will probably think it's cool.


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Curtley
Two years ago
09:17 30 Oct 15

Reply #559782

re: NBL Commentators

Calling every single thing is what the problem is. Even talking about every free throw. Do these AFL guys ever watch the NBA and see how they do it?


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hikikomori
Two years ago
09:26 30 Oct 15

Reply #559785

re: NBL Commentators

its called 'on the nose' commentary

eg->
"He has the ball'
"He passes it to the centre"
"the centre passes back to the point guard"
"he almost loses it"
"the defender has dived in there"
"hes using all his might to not lose the ball there, you can see how hard hes really trying!"
"and the referee says Its going to be a jump ball! great competitive basketball all around there!"


^ Pretty ordinary

Although the 'NBA style' can come off as cold, clinical, distant, apathetic to the action on the court, nobody knows what the score is if they arent watching.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:35 30 Oct 15

Reply #559787

re: NBL Commentators

Williams seemed a bit nervous last night to me. He will be better for the experience. Does he live in Melbourne now?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:36 30 Oct 15

Reply #559788

re: NBL Commentators

I didn't watch the full game but am curious if homicide said anything about Gleeson? Are they on good terms now


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
09:43 30 Oct 15

Reply #559789

re: NBL Commentators

"I think we all know why he's not there though.."

Because he wasn't very good and if we continue to make the same mistakes of the past (eg using Gaze and Carfino and Bill Woods) then we are bound to fail.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
09:45 30 Oct 15

Reply #559790

re: NBL Commentators

Homicide was as insightful as CJ Bruton but with more gang signs. He wasn't good.

I think RMQ forgets we aren't watching WWE.


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Train
Two years ago
09:48 30 Oct 15

Reply #559791

re: NBL Commentators

I didn't like Homicides commentating one bit. My opinion is that he was unprofessional and rather annoying. He didn't as any insight to the gane apart from his gotta box out and get those rebounds which he repeated over and over and over.

I can deal with him being bias but honestly I think of rather commit suicide than listen to homicide again. Or even worse , listen to CJ Bruton.

I really enjoy Derek Rucker and James Harvey. Both give a great insight to the game and educate the audience.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
09:51 30 Oct 15

Reply #559793

re: NBL Commentators

I think what grated me about Homicide is that he acts like he's cooler than the other side of the pillow but he struggles to spit a sentence out without fumbling over his words.


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RMQ
Two years ago
10:40 30 Oct 15

Reply #559809

re: NBL Commentators

I thought of a solution last night.

Homicide would work perfect in a situation where there were three commentators.

He'd say the least of course and save his big moments down the stretch.

You'd utilize him for his zingy one liners like "The biggest man in Australia", "You rebound, you win"


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:42 30 Oct 15

Reply #559810

re: NBL Commentators

I didn't mind homocide. Even though I hate him. His comments added flavour

I also hate Robbins and think he is doing ok aswell.


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paul
Two years ago
10:43 30 Oct 15

Reply #559811

re: NBL Commentators

That's exactly what I thought RMQ.


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LV
Two years ago
10:49 30 Oct 15

Reply #559814

re: NBL Commentators

Good suggestion RMQ.


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Basket Hanger
Two years ago
11:12 30 Oct 15

Reply #559819

re: NBL Commentators

I'm with Isaac on this one. While the rugby commentators are not ideal they are doing a pretty good job with their enthusiasm and excitement levels.

Having said that there was too much love laid on Homicide last night and the continued sucking up wasn't professional. If I heard Homicide (when I COULD hear him) say one more time about the lack of rebounding and "down the stretch" I was going to turn it off.

Bring back Gaze ( even if the NBL owner doesn't like him), Phil Smyth ( for Adelaide games) has been a good commentator and Derek Rucker has been a revelation.

Tommy Greer was pretty good but had too much bias for Melbourne, Shane Heal has been ok, Brad Robins, CJ Bruton a big no!!

And please, commentators, I know you are trying to be upbeat but please don't tell us it's a full house when its clearly NOT.


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RMQ
Two years ago
11:17 30 Oct 15

Reply #559822

re: NBL Commentators

I didn't like how the aussie commentator would call the player has "showing some dance moves" when he was simply handling the rock.

It's this type of lack of knowledge of how the game is played that belittles the sport.

These "dance moves" are standard dribbling techniques.

To me, the term "dance moves" is almost derogatory ( i know that sounds outlandish) but it brands that type of play as "show off-ish" but it's not. It's a part of the game. It's something the Aussie AFL/NRL commentators don't get coz their sports lack that type of showmanship/finesse.


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paul
Two years ago
11:24 30 Oct 15

Reply #559825

re: NBL Commentators

I think you're being a little bit sensitive there.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
11:30 30 Oct 15

Reply #559830

re: NBL Commentators

Hang on, so you are ok with Homicide saying "dats wat up" when someone calls a timeout, or saying "see i told u" when one of the 4,000 predictions he made finally came true, but a local commentator doing his bit to be more than bland is considered too much?

RMQ tl;dr - I like black guys.


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36ersNayshun
Two years ago
11:40 30 Oct 15

Reply #559832

re: NBL Commentators

I think the "pro" callers are mostly doing alright. I must admit when they were first announced I had similar to reservations to those mentioned in here. Why do we want Footy callers calling Basketball, what a joke. But if you stop and think for a moment, most of these guys are professional sport commentators. They might be most known for their stints in the footy codes but they already call other sports too.

I think Dwayne Russel has been excellent. Anthony Hudson was fine but will improve as he learns the flow of the game. The colour commentators have been a bit hit and miss but they're obviously just throwing some people in there to try them out. I didn't mind Homicides call last night, not amazing but really when you've got CJ as a benchmark for cringe-inducing commentary efforts most of them are looking pretty good in comparison.

I also didn't mind Bill Woods return to the fold last season, not sure what problem people had with his work. He'd fit in well this season because calling Illawara would actually be correct this year!

After years of Carfino "magic", i'm just happy for a change and some professionalism from the anchors.


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paul
Two years ago
11:49 30 Oct 15

Reply #559841

re: NBL Commentators

I thought many of the commentators during the Ten era actually detracted from the spectacle by being negative and not doing the required research.

While this year hasn't been 'perfect', I have found the commentary enjoyable for the most part and I like the fact the play-by-play guys are enthusiastic about what they're doing.


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hikikomori
Two years ago
11:52 30 Oct 15

Reply #559842

re: NBL Commentators

I wouldnt mind being a commentator


I would incorporate the American style commentary and have a 10 minute conversation with my colour commentator rather than talk about the action

Me: "Dwayne Russell, what do you think the prospects for these teams are in this upcoming season?"

Dwayne Russell: "You just missed an almost spectacular 360 dunk attempt by that young man, the score's 18 to 16, 2 free throws'

Me: "Jawai was on leave after the first game of the season when the wildcats won'

*action on court* Swish on free throw 1

Dwayne Russell: What a magnificent free throw, that was by Wagstaff! he showed all the technique and calm and composure, the score's 19 to 16, one to come, this game sure is close!

Me: 'we go to our sideline commentator who will provide an insight of the talk of scouts investigating the possibility of signing up Chris Goulding to a 10 day contract with the San Antonio Spurs, which is well within the realms of possibility now given that the injury list has increased and how they've waived a couple of backup shooting guards'

BOGAN FANS WATCHING: CALL THE FARQ'N SCORE YOU CARNT! I WANT 12 MINUTE QUARTERS! MORE SCORING! STRAYA MATE!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:57 30 Oct 15

Reply #559844

re: NBL Commentators

I found Homicide quite painful to listen to. Seemed to stumble on every second sentence. Also he is not a good clear speaker. Sounded like he was just chatting with the other guy rather than speaking out to an audience. And I thought he gave very little player insight on what was happening. Isn't that why we pair a commentator with a player? What kind of stupid question was that about Knight's instagram?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:00 30 Oct 15

Reply #559845

re: NBL Commentators

Also can we get a shot clock on the screen please Fox?!?!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:16 30 Oct 15

Reply #559853

re: NBL Commentators

Dwayne Russell was woeful last night - Homicide or "Down the Stretch" will be better for the run.
Thought Hudson was good in the early games.


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RMQ
Two years ago
12:22 30 Oct 15

Reply #559854

re: NBL Commentators

What's good about the footy commentators is that they do put some emotion into things with their pronunciation of players names and how they get excited about things.

It's just when their lack of basketball knowledge/terms surfaces it gets cringeworthy.

That said all the emotional calls like "Worthington for THREE!" will make the highlights clips which sells the product better.

Lets not forget the aussie guy last night called a block by jawai a slam...

Also I don't watch cricket but I do notice when it's on the director/camera people always find good looking ladies in the crowd. The NBL needs to do this - find attractive/interested people in the crowd. Not a grandad with their 3 year old who is falling asleep.



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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
12:31 30 Oct 15

Reply #559855

re: NBL Commentators

"The NBL needs to do this - find attractive people in the crowd."

I hate being filmed though...


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Isaac
Two years ago
12:35 30 Oct 15

Reply #559857

re: NBL Commentators

Shot clock might be a per-stadium thing as it's been on screen in the last two Hawks games I've watched on Fox.

(I mostly watch games on my phone.)


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Haz
Two years ago
13:44 30 Oct 15

Reply #559879

re: NBL Commentators

Wouldn't mind a female sideline commentator from time to time. You know, to show that the NBL is a progressive league.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:49 30 Oct 15

Reply #559880

re: NBL Commentators

I would like to see the cheerleaders more often, progressively more often!


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King Podge
Two years ago
14:04 30 Oct 15

Reply #559888

re: NBL Commentators

Before commenting on the quality of the NBL's commentators one should take a moment to listen to the Sacramento Kings/Cavs/Clippers home call teams.............

Hornets home call team are also horrible, but mostly because they seem apologetic that people have to watch their team play.


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hikikomori
Two years ago
15:04 30 Oct 15

Reply #559917

re: NBL Commentators

re haz

Basketball is a progressive sport

Go to any court, and its played by Chinese people, they wont make the pros, but theyre drawn to it, like heroin :D


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:06 30 Oct 15

Reply #559920

re: NBL Commentators

WTF are you on hikirhitto?


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Mark-e-Mark
Two years ago
15:51 30 Oct 15

Reply #559930

re: NBL Commentators

Homicide just said on Twitter that he just came out of the Fox Sports office and he will be commentating on Sunday.

I don't think Corey was any better than CJ. Admittedly, Corey could improve, but he provided no insight, and not even any excitement. It was just the same old crap on recycle. Maybe he needs to scull a beer before talking.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:47 30 Oct 15

Reply #559992

re: NBL Commentators

I think the one play by play option Fox needs to consider is Matt McQuade. Clearly demonstrated at the blitz he is up to to the task. Been writing and commentating pro ball since before most of us have been born.

Analysts always tend to be ex players and coaches. Not a fan of Heal, Gaze or Carfino. Someone more recent/fresh such as Harvey was a good idea. Would love injured players like Damo, Chill or Warrick as guests.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:49 30 Oct 15

Reply #559994

re: NBL Commentators

The guys who did the Illawarra v cal Bears game were quite good...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:57 30 Oct 15

Reply #559995

re: NBL Commentators

Agree about McQuade. The guy is a one man NBL wikipedia and I think his style is suited pretty well to a tv audience (unlike say CJ or Homicide who both need lessons)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:58 30 Oct 15

Reply #559996

re: NBL Commentators

Yes Matt McQuade did the play by play for that one with Brad Rosen as analyst.


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hikikomori
Two years ago
20:11 30 Oct 15

Reply #559999

re: NBL Commentators

Wayne Russell is hopeless, I can actually do a better job than him


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:15 30 Oct 15

Reply #560001

re: NBL Commentators

Rmq maybe you should watch nba mark Jackson one of the most famous commentators says ' may i have this dance?' when one guy puts on impressive dribble moves and gets the defender wobbling


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captain obvious
Two years ago
22:26 30 Oct 15

Reply #560046

re: NBL Commentators

hopefully homicide isn't commentating down the stretch of this season


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AngusH
Two years ago
23:29 30 Oct 15

Reply #560051

re: NBL Commentators

Corey was 10x better than CJ. I think people are forgetting how bad CJ was. I actually quite liked Corey, not conventional by any means, but passionate about basketball.


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paul
Two years ago
00:16 31 Oct 15

Reply #560055

re: NBL Commentators

Corey may not have had a perfect start, but he knows you've got to rebound.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
00:51 31 Oct 15

Reply #560058

re: NBL Commentators

And it's pissing him off


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560074

re: NBL Commentators

I know this sounds funny but despite adding no real insight homicide didn't seem as bad as CJ because at least his voice is better. He spluttered on quite a few sentences yet you could still say his voice was confident and more interesting than CJ who was not only crap at insight but delivered it in a voice that made you fall asleep


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Peter
Two years ago
19:48 31 Oct 15

Reply #560156

re: NBL Commentators

What about retired players who were characters in the change room, weren't stars, had to work hard and have a good understanding of the game to stay in the league. I remember hearing Rupert Sapwell commentate a few years back and thought he went ok. A couple of those types may be ok. Only issue is they will not have high profiles but for non basketball people so has everyone else but Gaze, Patty Mills, Delly and a select few others


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Peter
Two years ago
19:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560157

re: NBL Commentators

What about retired players who were characters in the change room, weren't stars, had to work hard and have a good understanding of the game to stay in the league. I remember hearing Rupert Sapwell commentate a few years back and thought he went ok. A couple of those types may be ok. Only issue is they will not have high profiles but for non basketball people so has everyone else but Gaze, Patty Mills, Delly and a select few others


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Southern Joe
Two years ago
20:07 31 Oct 15

Reply #560167

re: NBL Commentators

Australia is not exactly blessed with a dearth of basketball specific comms.

Remember ... we're still on the up and coming from a pretty low position sports market wise.

Its a pity John Casey isn't available to call games because he's always been up with the play and has a vast array of turns of phrases.

Dwayne Russell is OK because at least he knows a bit of basketball & won't wing it so much like Voss. But Voss is not so bad because he has a familiar Casey sound to him .. just needs to catch onto the rules a bit better.

Matt McQuade would be a great choice as he is passionate about the game, has knowledge and now has a couple of years experience behind the mike now.

Its funny how people get upset about comms getting names wrong .. but King Gaze has always had a habit of doing this.

When Ebi Ere was a King ... he would always call him EEbee Ari. He even called Glen Saville "Glen Sa Ville" .


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Bear
Two years ago
20:20 31 Oct 15

Reply #560170

re: NBL Commentators

Dwayne Russell could be okay, but with lines like, "Worthington, bounce pass to Craig".

Really unsophisticated stuff right there...


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GordonG
Two years ago
22:08 31 Oct 15

Reply #560267

re: NBL Commentators

Need Matt McQuade and Matt Smith.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:19 31 Oct 15

Reply #560278

re: NBL Commentators

That was part of Gaze's charm though his dorky and daggy image. It was almost expected Gaze would pronounce some player's name wrong every game without fail. But yeah the Ere & Saville ones were pretty bad.


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Haz
Two years ago
15:21 1 Nov 15

Reply #560406

re: NBL Commentators

Hearing Corey Williams for the first time. Agree with the general sentiment on this thread - He's terrible!

Needs to pick it up as a professional because some of the commentating from him is crigny.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:55 20 Dec 15

Reply #571613

re: NBL Commentators

As a new fan to the UFC I really appreciate what Joe Rogan and today Dominick Cruz bring to the table.

What they bring is mainly the ability to break down even the most technical aspects so people like myself can better understand what's happening. They get hyped when needed although the technical breakdown is what is make or break in that role.

Rucker does a great job of that, as well as Greer and Heal this season. Rosen will also do it when in the special comments seat.

Corey Williams provides zero insight or any sort of breakdown in anything he says, I only really like when he gets on players for being soft or not taking their player on as its rare. He has played a lot so knows what it is like for a new import in the league, or what a point guard should be looking for coming out of a pick n roll or when to push the pace or control the tempo. He could start with that instead of talking about himself so often.

He seems like a guy that would google himself, so I want to write Corey Williams' name again, so hopefully he sees this post.

Corey please stop talking about yourself, please practice your job during the week and please provide more insight.


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