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Jack Toft
Two years ago

#38349

Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

It's Halloween and that means all the monsters are on the lose tonight.

Adelaide hosts Cairns, so if there are Adelaide fans wanting to see Cairns this season but don't want to travel to Queensland, then you better get down to the Arena. Seems Cairns were only in Adelaide a week or two ago, and they were.

Cairns with massive offensive woes at the moment can't seem to get past 80 points. I reckon if you want to win an NBL game, the offence needs to be able to score 85+ ppg. Cairns are not getting much out of their starting 5, but average 28 ppg off the bench, which is what you would expect from the bench.

Adelaide just seem to be hitting their straps at the moment and seem to have a nice balance in the team with a lot of players stepping up and working together.

For Cairns, Wortho is the danger man, and if he strolls onto court with a couple of bolts in his neck, Adelaide better watch out.

Sadly for Cairns fans, Adelaide will win this trick or treat.

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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:35 31 Oct 15

Reply #560133

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Taipans aren't much chop without Wilbekin so should be 36ers by 10+


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LV
Two years ago
18:16 31 Oct 15

Reply #560138

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Taipans to finally find their bite and cause an upset here.


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LV
Two years ago
18:17 31 Oct 15

Reply #560139

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

But it will be a minor recovery as their season continues to splutter along after tonight.


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
18:50 31 Oct 15

Reply #560143

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

LV, Who will step up for the Snakes?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:16 31 Oct 15

Reply #560147

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

How are people's NBL Live App going with watching the game?


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King Podge
Two years ago
19:16 31 Oct 15

Reply #560148

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Starks looking aggressive so far, this is the player we've been waiting for.

Now lets see what the 2nd unit can do.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
19:18 31 Oct 15

Reply #560149

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

How many gimmy's has Burston missed? SMH


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tiko
Two years ago
19:24 31 Oct 15

Reply #560150

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

two average teams


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:39 31 Oct 15

Reply #560152

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Cairns' offense is clicking.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:39 31 Oct 15

Reply #560153

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Could gliddon take Gibsons spot at rio?


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
19:43 31 Oct 15

Reply #560154

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Alex Loughton is one of the worst players i have ever seen in the NBL.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560158

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Joey giving the players a spray but the main problem is his horrible defensive strategy of switching everything which is making cairns look like an offensive juggernaut


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:51 31 Oct 15

Reply #560159

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Gee whiz Walker looks good when he's allowed to use his athleticism in the open court. A special talent


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Kobe24
Two years ago
19:54 31 Oct 15

Reply #560160

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Still waiting for ebe to do something, anything.


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:54 31 Oct 15

Reply #560161

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Walker's biggest problem has always been his inability to stay on the floor due to foul trouble. Has been a bit better this year.


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Train
Two years ago
20:02 31 Oct 15

Reply #560165

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Randle is such a fun player to watch. I hope he sticks around after this season


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:05 31 Oct 15

Reply #560166

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yeah, definitely a fun player to watch. Probably takes too many contested jumpers, but makes up for it with everything else he does.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
20:21 31 Oct 15

Reply #560171

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Dick move by Petrie there.


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Train
Two years ago
20:22 31 Oct 15

Reply #560172

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

He's got a lot of moves. Reminds me a bit of D-Mac


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Bear
Two years ago
20:22 31 Oct 15

Reply #560173

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Wow, second quarter charge by Era on Burston, not called was just unbelievable, possibly will make top 10 worst calls of the season I reckon...

LMFAO


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
20:25 31 Oct 15

Reply #560175

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

So Petrie can just whack people without consequence? Right in front of a ref too.


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Bear
Two years ago
20:28 31 Oct 15

Reply #560176

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Randle not delivering tonight, not yet anyway?


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MACDUB
Two years ago
20:28 31 Oct 15

Reply #560177

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

No surprises Joey was complaining to the ref. One of his players could kill a guy and he'd still be complaining that he didn't do anything wrong.


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
20:29 31 Oct 15

Reply #560178

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I'd love for a League-wide crackdown on the talking to refs. Everyone is somehow an expert.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:31 31 Oct 15

Reply #560180

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

LOL HOW ON EARTH WAS 2 shots to Randle? LOL..ONLY IN THE NBL


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:32 31 Oct 15

Reply #560182

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

LOL blowout league LOL


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Bear
Two years ago
20:32 31 Oct 15

Reply #560183

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I knew I may have spoken too soon, Randle steps up!


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Bear
Two years ago
20:34 31 Oct 15

Reply #560184

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

This looks like it is going to be a close one, if the 6'ers get it going in the last 6:00 minutes, look out!


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:34 31 Oct 15

Reply #560185

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Fearne's accent is one of the great wonders of the world.


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Bear
Two years ago
20:36 31 Oct 15

Reply #560187

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Starks v Randle, great to watch...


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MACDUB
Two years ago
20:36 31 Oct 15

Reply #560188

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yeah, I think the NBA has gone too far re: tech fouls.

But the NBL does need to tighten it up. Joey jumping up and down, pointing at refs, constantly yelling should warrant a tech.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:36 31 Oct 15

Reply #560189

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Wow at both of those shots.


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Bear
Two years ago
20:38 31 Oct 15

Reply #560190

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Just great drama, again in the NBL, enjoying this season no matter the issues people keep coming up with, it is watch worthy...


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Bear
Two years ago
20:39 31 Oct 15

Reply #560191

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

And, yes, I have been one of those people, I am not hiding from that...


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:44 31 Oct 15

Reply #560192

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yikes, Peach....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:45 31 Oct 15

Reply #560193

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

these blowouts are really getting on my nerves


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:46 31 Oct 15

Reply #560194

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Cairns FT shooting has been rubbish...The ONLY reason the 36ers are still in it.


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Train
Two years ago
20:46 31 Oct 15

Reply #560196

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I'm loving this season so far. So many epic matches.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:47 31 Oct 15

Reply #560197

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Petrie couldn't get it in the dish


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:47 31 Oct 15

Reply #560198

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

All games are blowouts apparently Train haha


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Bear
Two years ago
20:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560199

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

56 seconds to go and Era pushes into Worthington, who flops badly, I thin if he stays on his feet it is a no call, great call to give it against the flopper on that occasion... IMHO

Great ending in this one, who can keep their nerve?


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:49 31 Oct 15

Reply #560200

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Hell of a game from Starks. First time since the blitz that he's looked the goods.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:54 31 Oct 15

Reply #560201

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Holy shit Randle, wow.


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Train
Two years ago
20:55 31 Oct 15

Reply #560202

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Hahaha yeah these 101-101 blowouts are rubbish


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:55 31 Oct 15

Reply #560203

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

If i was Adelaide, i would just Hack whoever has the ball, based on what we have seen in the NBL so far this season in similar circumstances, the refs wont call a foul.


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Train
Two years ago
20:56 31 Oct 15

Reply #560204

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Speechless. Wow !!!


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
20:56 31 Oct 15

Reply #560205

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Starks!!!!!!!!


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:56 31 Oct 15

Reply #560206

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

WOW.

Amazing game.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:57 31 Oct 15

Reply #560207

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

.3 left...


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Roy Hobbs
Two years ago
20:57 31 Oct 15

Reply #560208

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Starks has been huge, what a massive last shot.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:57 31 Oct 15

Reply #560209

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

BWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWAWA 36ers


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560210

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Starks was probably 50% or more of his way onto the chopping block before tonight. What a performance.


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Train
Two years ago
20:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560211

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Scotty who ?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:00 31 Oct 15

Reply #560212

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

How does creek not manage a rebound in 18 minutes? Waste of talent


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:12 31 Oct 15

Reply #560216

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I think this Ebi Ere business needs to come to an end.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
21:27 31 Oct 15

Reply #560235

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Clutch Free Throws at the end not recognised obviously.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:33 31 Oct 15

Reply #560242

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Adelaide were woeful tonight great finish but frustrating performance. Ebe is over the hill offers nothing. Imagine having a Torey Craig instead of the over the hill guy... thatd be danger! Really frustrated with that. But cairns wow they kept making the big shots.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:40 31 Oct 15

Reply #560246

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I think Cairns was allowed to keep making shots because of Adelaide's poor defence all night. So frustrating to watch that. Cairns was always going to come out hard and the Sixers allowed them to dictate for much of the night.
Can't see either team as they are playing finals. Adelaide if they upgrade on Ere maybe, but I'm not sold on Cairns. Good on Starks though, but one game out of seven isn't going to cut it longer term, has to back that up consistently for Cns to be a real threat.
Still Melb, Perth, Hawks and NZ as teams to beat for mine.


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CT
Two years ago
21:43 31 Oct 15

Reply #560248

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

"Starks was probably 50% or more of his way onto the chopping block before tonight. What a performance."

Cairns just don't cut players. You've got to be caught with your nose in something for that to happen.

I bet Starks won't get half that next game though :-/


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:51 31 Oct 15

Reply #560255

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Oh no doubt the 4-4 free throws were huge from Ebe, but overall 10 points is not enough from a guy in his role. Was non existent for large portions of the game. And as bad as Adelaide were in spurts, the chances were there for someone to take that one by the scruff of the neck. But troll away Camby...

Starks tustve been relieved about the Wilbekin situation haha


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snooch
Two years ago
21:57 31 Oct 15

Reply #560259

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Four free throws down the stretch doesn't mean much when you've given up that many points at the other end because you can't move laterally.
Interesting to see Joey bake Gibbo during a time out. Warranted too, he was far too passive again early. Cairns was always going to come out hard and the Sixers allowed them to dictate terms on their home court. Allowed a team averaging under 80 to score over 100 through poor defensive effort.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560260

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

A lot of layups early and often given up. Really disappointing performance, surprised they were able to get as close as they did. The trap worked for about 1:30minutes at the end and it nearly got them over the line!


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JRich
Two years ago
22:01 31 Oct 15

Reply #560261

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Ebi has seen better days. Offering absolutely nothing.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
22:04 31 Oct 15

Reply #560264

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Apparently he is a great locker room presence... cop out of a reason to keep a guy producing so little around. Cut him, bring in some extra talent and try and make a run at the 4. Adelaide although fun to watch, wont make the 4 as is imo.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:26 31 Oct 15

Reply #560285

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Ebi got to the line from mistakes from the refs on the calls, sorry to say the block by worthington was a definite charge, and Ebi got free on the inbounds pass by grabbing and throwing his original defender away from the ring, that said he did hit his throws while most other players missed all through the game, and its not his responsibility to correct the officials mistakes..

In my opinion the best two players for the 36ers in the last 5 minutes were Bruce and Tregarth. if they had not been subbed off with a minute to go I thought Cairns were done.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
22:27 31 Oct 15

Reply #560286

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I give Ebe credit, he was good for 4 minutes, as he usually is.
But he was god awful for the other 20. Not as bad as Walker was, but pretty close.

We didn't really deserve to win tonight. We had a good last 6 mins, to make it real interesting, but Cairns were easily the better team.


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KingJames
Two years ago
22:37 31 Oct 15

Reply #560296

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Dumbass awards go to

Sobey fouling with 4 seconds left of the 3rd with Bruce having the ball near half court giving him 2 foul shots.

Walker for being Walker.

Ere for the foul shot violation when he is guarding the shooter.

Petrie for two absolutely embarrassing attempts at layups.

The umpires for absolutely shocking calls all night for both teams. Special mention for Vaughan Mayberry for doing his best to become the worst umpire in the league and will be gifted the grand final games for his efforts.

Honourable mention goes to Gibson for still thinking he can guard centers/power forwards inside. No you can't! Every time it is a huge mismatch! Gibson should go back to the basics of trying to guard Gliddon from walking into the key catching it and scoring.

I don't know Wrights deal with Walker but it's time to glue him to the bench until he earns his minutes. We need to develop Hodgson quickly so he can have more court time! He looked like he deserved more time tonight and would have finished the layups Petrie missed. We can't get Teys back quick enough. Someone who plays smart basketball.

Would have liked to seen Johnson pressure Burston with the ball on that last play. Great game by Starks. Cairns deserved to win the game. Hopefully it will be a wake up call for the Sixers

Looks like Worthington want's to end his career with no class at all with his dirty plays.


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snooch
Two years ago
22:43 31 Oct 15

Reply #560301

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yeah really didn't like that unsportsmanlike Wortho gave up on Randle. Too much of a cheap shot.
Pretty decent recap KingJames


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Mantis
Two years ago
22:43 31 Oct 15

Reply #560302

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Ebi got awarded two of those free throws because he caught the ball all alone right under the hoop, but took so long to gather himself to go up for the layup his defender recovered and fouled him.

That sums up his problem - he is too slow for this level of competition. We need more from an import than 10 pts on 31% shooting, which is his season's average. Tonight he was actually below average.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
22:48 31 Oct 15

Reply #560306

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

How about that time he decided to dribble and charged right into Wortho... how they called that a block I dont know. But wow it was like watching a car crash in slow motion. 2 old veterans... problem is unlike Wortho who is a ok to have as a bench guy, Ebe is a god damn IMPORT! Too valuable a spot to be wasting on him, friend of Joeys or not, this is a business.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:59 31 Oct 15

Reply #560312

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

"Clutch Free Throws at the end not recognised obviously."

28% from the field, 33% on 3pt


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LV
Two years ago
23:01 31 Oct 15

Reply #560313

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Scottie?

Scottie Who?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:03 31 Oct 15

Reply #560315

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Petrie is a thug. Let's hope the video replay comes into play on most of his involvements.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:09 31 Oct 15

Reply #560320

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Petrie's just about done. You could see the signs last season and this season he's gone further backwards. He needs to gather himself and get his feet underneath him anytime he's under the basket which either allows the defence to get to him or he blows the bunny.

I've lost count of the amount of layups and simple putbacks he's missed this season and last he's just got nothing in his legs.


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Iggle Piggle
Two years ago
23:12 31 Oct 15

Reply #560321

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Loughton one of the worst players you have ever seen? Get off the drugs he is a great player, can do it all.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:14 31 Oct 15

Reply #560323

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Ebi needs to go, plain and simple. You can argue he hit clutch free throws all you like but go back and watch the game and closely watch how many points he leaks through not being able to stay in front of his man and lack of effort and awareness on boxing out giving his man a nice run up at the rebound.

When Randle is your second highest rebounder you know you have issues.


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KingJames
Two years ago
23:34 31 Oct 15

Reply #560327

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I originally thought Weigh's put back was Ere's fault but if you watch the replay he had to make the right decision to box out Trigger instead. So it was Randles fault for not boxing out Weigh.


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Doug
Two years ago
23:47 31 Oct 15

Reply #560328

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I may be a little harsh as it was a quick play but Petrie needs to dunk that at that stage.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
23:50 31 Oct 15

Reply #560329

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Doug I haven't seen the replay but at the time, I thought he surely mustve been in 2 minds what to dunk or layup and in the end was one of the worst butchered jobs I've seen. Was like he was expecting contact and was too open... was a hell of a play by Randle.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
23:50 31 Oct 15

Reply #560330

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

And yeah totally agree, you dunk that or miss trying!


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
00:25 1 Nov 15

Reply #560335

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@Mantis

"Ebi got awarded two of those free throws because he caught the ball all alone right under the hoop, but took so long to gather himself to go up for the layup his defender recovered and fouled him."

Ummm....that move is called a fake, its a veteran move he executed to near perfection. If not for the opposition basically riding his shoulders he likely would have absorbed the contact and got the and one.

Regardless, I think the focus is unfairly on Ere. What about Petrie's layup? Sobey's foul in the penalty?

What about Walker and Creek? Ere had almost the same minutes as the two and scored more, stole the ball more, committed less fouls and got the same amount of rebounds to them COMBINED.

And Ere is MORE THAN TEN YEARS older then Creek.

I'd rather not focus on individuals, it can get quite personal and counter-productive.

The Elephant in the room is the team defence. You cannot allow 104 points in a 40 min game and expect to win more than you lose. Top down, everyone is accountable for defence, so that needs to be addressed foremost.

The Sixers just weren't hungry enough. I feel bad for Gibbo getting roasted by Wright on National TV, but it was warranted.


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Maxymoo
Two years ago
03:55 1 Nov 15

Reply #560340

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Never a finger pointed in Joeys direction.

Woeful D tonight, really wasted Randles hot hand ...too many 2nd and 3rd chance boards.

Agree that it's time for Adelaide to dip a toe back in and jump on another import.


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natwhereyouat
Two years ago
08:36 1 Nov 15

Reply #560345

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31



BOOM!


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snooch
Two years ago
09:47 1 Nov 15

Reply #560348

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Loughton is serviceable podge, not great. He never reached his potential imo. And I wouldn't say he's having a great year.


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Bretts The Man
Two years ago
09:59 1 Nov 15

Reply #560349

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Rarely agree with Marcus Camby but his post a good review of game and his points on others that needed finger pointing others than Ere with very revelent stuff ups ,poor games etc In Creek ( where has his offence gone ) Walker (can be exciting but hope doesn't cost too much) Petrie ( love way plays but are we getting to a end in sight of great career ) Sobey ( Close to if not most foul ever )

But that doesn't stop the fact how poor Ere is and was again as absolutely not even a resemblance of defence and just plods around in offence and as nobody really worries about him, so gets opportunities which usually stuffs up.
If we are serious about getting into finals then we have to replace ASAP
But the relegation to me was that Joey is not the coach we think he is as all our points were gained by individual efforts and not by set plays or court movement which Cairns was especially in first half as they got so many easy baskets .
Joey had no answers for or a actual defence structure to break their game down.


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Bretts The Man
Two years ago
10:01 1 Nov 15

Reply #560350

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Should have mentioned great wrap up of everything by King James post.


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snooch
Two years ago
10:20 1 Nov 15

Reply #560351

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I agree the complementary pieces like Walker and Creek were poor, Petrie's layup miss made me want to throw up, and I've already spoken abt the poor D, but the fact remains this team needs its second import to be more than a complementary player - and as you say Marcus, he's 10 years older (and unfit!) I was one prepared to give him time but it's clearly not working.
And I didn't feel the least bit bad about Gibbo getting a serve on national tv. I felt bad that Gibbo once again went into his shell after 2 reasonable games (both wins coincidentally).


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
10:40 1 Nov 15

Reply #560353

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

There's nothing coincidental about us winning when Gibbo plays well.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
11:20 1 Nov 15

Reply #560360

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Problem with the 36ers team that i see is accountability. And it stems from Joey Wright.

Seems like he always wants to blame external factors e.g. the refs, scorebench personnel, other teams' players.

Petries' slap on Craig only served to fire Craig up and from memory he canned a three and two layups after that. Craig should always play angry!

I don't know why people are harring on about Ere and his offensive problems. 36ers gave up 104 points. His major issues are defensive-orientated.

Thats a big problem - mobility from a defensive standpoint. Petrie, Ere, Johnson.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
11:30 1 Nov 15

Reply #560364

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

MACDUB don't know if it's an accountability thing but on the subject Joey's behaviour towards the refs is terrible in my opinion.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
11:42 1 Nov 15

Reply #560365

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

MACDUB I agree with you in regards to Joey, he is great at deferring. His behaviour towards the refs is laughable at times a real baby in suit jumping on the spot. The reason people are getting on Ere for his offense, is because that's what the 6ers said he was here for... his Defence is non existent, and he missed some key assignments last night.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
12:05 1 Nov 15

Reply #560371

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@Brett

If you believe defence is a problem, then just getting rid of Ebi is not going to fix it.

The Coach needs to instill into his team Defence is the primary objective, and with the fast paced players we have , can run it down the opposition's throats on the transition.

There needs to be a top down change in attitude regarding D.

Gibbo is our best defender, he must set by example, then folks like Creek, Walker, Hodgson will follow suit.

The Ere situation should be remain at the review and assess stage. Just look at the Starks scenario, the team rules out Wilbekin, publicly states the can win it with Markel, Markel begins to excel.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
12:09 1 Nov 15

Reply #560374

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Well put, MC.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:10 1 Nov 15

Reply #560375

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Problem with Marcus's thesis is he is using 1 game to compare Ebi against others. I'm comparing the whole season thus far and the fact that he is an import and the others are locals.

I knew Peach would miss that lay up....he always misses those, even when we are up 20.

I've been saying for a while now that Gibbo is overrated (not on talent but actual performance) and I knew he would go back to his passive ways once Randle settled in.

Randle defensively is an issue but he more than makes up for it on the offensive end, it's up to the team to play as a cohesive unit defensively and be more aware. Having said that, Randle was our 2nd leading rebounder.

Joey's not a great tactician, never has been! You look at that play he ran with 1 second left last game at home against Cairns and you just have to shake your head. His whole game plan has and will always be, get the defensive boards, run & gun and outscore your opponents. It's a style that works and he has continued success with it.

All I can say is thank Christ for DJ - always solid and has been playing both ends better than anyone this season!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
12:11 1 Nov 15

Reply #560376

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Review and assess stage... 10ppg at 30% odd. reviewed assessed, retrenched!


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Luuuc
Two years ago
12:16 1 Nov 15

Reply #560377

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

There's no reason for a team like Adelaide not to be hungry, aggressive defenders. They thrive on running off their stops, and at some point you'd think that would click with them and they'd realise that scoring in transition is fun & rewarding, and therefore doing the part that makes that scoring possible is a crucial element of the fun actually occurring.

They're a frustrating team in that regard because their best & worst are so far apart.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:19 1 Nov 15

Reply #560378

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Marcus, getting rid of Ebi may not fix the whole problem but if you get the right player in (like they should have in the first place) then it will certainly help!

Slot Torrey Craig as an example into our line up instead of Ebi and it would make a difference - you cant deny that!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
12:23 1 Nov 15

Reply #560380

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Anon Craig is the exact example I used last night as a replacement type that would make immediate positive difference. So true.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:30 1 Nov 15

Reply #560381

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Kobe24...Craig wouldn't even cost as much as Ere either - that's what makes it even more frustrating!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
12:32 1 Nov 15

Reply #560382

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I know.. I know!


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Mantis
Two years ago
13:55 1 Nov 15

Reply #560391

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@MC: A fake is used when you are being guarded. Ebi wasn't being guarded, he was ALL ALONE. Nice try, but you're wrong as usual.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:23 1 Nov 15

Reply #560399

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

He is just trolling, its hard but best not to bite.


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Beantown
Two years ago
14:35 1 Nov 15

Reply #560400

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

The positive for the Sixers was that Randle looks nearly unstoppable as a closer - especially if his three point shot is falling, which it wasn't really last night.

The negative is that after all these years with a stable core, we STILL can't play good team defence!

Can someone please explain to me why Joey insists on having his players switch on defence at the first hint of a pick? Players give up so easily on staying with their man and the resulting mismatches kill us every game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:59 1 Nov 15

Reply #560417

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yeah, I really rate Wright, but our switching defence always frustrates the hell out of me. In the 4th quarter Adelaide just couldn't defend the pick a roll. And it might be a bit harsh because he is a center, but Johnson had to know that there was only a second or two left when he switched onto Starks on the last possession. Needed to be up closer especially since Starks was hot. But like I said, probably nitpicking a bit since it was still a tough shot.

Other than that, people are probably overreacting to one game where Adelaide looked flat all night long a tad (although I do agree re-Ere). Even though it was tough to be on the losing end, how good was it to have a player like Randle put the team on his back late?!


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Beantown
Two years ago
16:21 1 Nov 15

Reply #560427

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Yeah, while I was disappointed in our defence and to lose to Cairns, Randle's skills as a closer left me feeling quite optimistic overall.

Given the way Joey seems to get his teams humming along as the season wears on, I feel like there is a good chance this team will still challenge for a playoff spot.

I agree about DJ on the last shot too. It was more a good shot than bad defence, but in that situation it would have been a smart move to close on him more tightly and force him to make a runner instead.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
16:33 1 Nov 15

Reply #560434

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@Mantis.

Ere was free of his man but he had the veteran awareness to know he could be blocked by the bigger defender, hence the head fake.

I'd encourage you to watch the tape again.

To those using Torrey Craig as an example of a replacement, watch his games before this one. He has had a subpar season so far.

Ebi is one issue, I never denied it was an issue. However there are bigger issues that need addressing than how many birthdays he's had.

I'd rather not focus on individuals but if you guys insist then I'd suggest there are others in the team who should be questioning themselves not just Ebi.

I wish we could do the Torrey Craig for Ebi experiment.....then I could show you just how little impact it would have on the poor team defence.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:53 1 Nov 15

Reply #560442

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

People forget Teys is out also. Not making any excuse by the way. But he would have been handy last night with Creek, Walker, Sobey and Ere to a lesser extant giving us very little.


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Mantis
Two years ago
17:25 1 Nov 15

Reply #560448

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I don't need to watch the tape, I was there and I saw how free he was. There was no defender to fake. Stop making stuff up.


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KingJames
Two years ago
18:27 1 Nov 15

Reply #560462

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I don't know why people see Craig play a couple of good games and think he would be a good import to have.

Last season he had 8.9 PPG (11 games where he scored 3 or less. 8 games where scored 2 or less. 3 games he didn't score). Imagine what people would be saying if that was one of our imports!

This season the first 4 games he averaged 6ppg. Only now he plays a couple of good games and then people want to sign him up....


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Kobe24
Two years ago
18:33 1 Nov 15

Reply #560463

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

King James he is just a general example i for one was using. Not him exactly but a player such as him which there are plenty of looking for work and exposure would be better than what he have been subject too.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
21:38 1 Nov 15

Reply #560508

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@Mantis.

If you were there, what were you watching other than the game in the middle of the premises?

If you are going to spend money to attend the game, watch the game.

If there are no defenders, how did a Cairns player end up on Ebi's shoulders? Did he fall out of the sky in a Cairns uniform?


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Basket Hanger
Two years ago
22:06 1 Nov 15

Reply #560512

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Pretty good wrap up of the game King James.
Gibson- not aggressive enough and went back into his shell. Becoming overrated.
Too much switching on screens, being mismatched, and not recovering to defensive assignments quick enough.


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Beantown
Two years ago
22:18 1 Nov 15

Reply #560516

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Torrey Craig is a perfect example of how bad our defence is. Against most other teams he is average to bad, but against us, he has gone off on more than one occasion!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:21 1 Nov 15

Reply #560518

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

King James...Craig isn't ideal and I think he is underutilised on Cairns hence his up and down nature in form. However, even at similar stats to Ere he still has the odd game where he goes off and he always looks dangerous. The only time Ebi looks dangerous is pre game during the buffet in the Scouts Deck.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
23:07 1 Nov 15

Reply #560525

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

@Beantown.

The play that stands out to me was Craig dribbling to the top of the key and the keyway just opened up for him like the Red Sea.

Its these defensive breakdowns that must be eliminated if the team is to be a key player post season.


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paul
Two years ago
23:12 1 Nov 15

Reply #560527

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

"I don't need to watch the tape, I was there and I saw how free he was. There was no defender to fake. Stop making stuff up."

Gold! He had the most athletic guy in the league elevating to block his shot!


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
02:13 2 Nov 15

Reply #560544

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Correct. Ebi slipped Craig down the lane and ended up quite underneath the basket.

With Ebi's veteran experience, he would have known that a) Craig was not far behind and most importantly b) he was exposed to being blocked from behind having to go straight up.

Here you go Mantis...There's your Ebi is alone and undefended theory.

[IMG]http://i66.tinypic.com/14sgq6w.jpg[/IMG]

Hope the screenshot works.


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koberulz
Two years ago
02:27 2 Nov 15

Reply #560545

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31



There you go.


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koberulz
Two years ago
02:27 2 Nov 15

Reply #560546

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

(Right click and select 'View Image' to see it full size.)


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
02:37 2 Nov 15

Reply #560547

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Kobe, how do you embed it in the post?


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Mark-e-Mark
Two years ago
02:55 2 Nov 15

Reply #560548

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I saw the video, and I see the photo. Yes, there was a defender to fake. But whether or not the move was wise or not shouldn't justify, or otherwise, the keeping of Ebi Ere.

He made a few plays at the end, but spends 20 of his 23 mpg sucking ass.


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koberulz
Two years ago
03:13 2 Nov 15

Reply #560549

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Kobe, how do you embed it in the post?
HTML. (img src='urlofimage.jpg' width='420')

Put in the URL, replace the parentheses with angle brackets. Don't remove the quotes. Make sure you remember the 'width' property, or it'll absolutely ruin the display of the page.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
05:51 2 Nov 15

Reply #560551

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Too many easy back door gifts to the basket. Peach did not keep the back door closed. Happened last season too. This needs to be worked on. Same at Premier league in the off season. Had Carlin or Hodgson been on, that door would have been shut and the result in Adelaides favour. Simple. All the other complexities are just basketball give and take but those backdoor giftings are inexcusable. Sort it out or we will travel along the same as last years early season and coaches from other teams will quietly run their plays to expose it when Peach is on and take the easy baskets.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
05:51 2 Nov 15

Reply #560552

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Too many easy back door gifts to the basket. Peach did not keep the back door closed. Happened last season too. This needs to be worked on. Same at Premier league in the off season. Had Carlin or Hodgson been on, that door would have been shut and the result in Adelaides favour. Simple. All the other complexities are just basketball give and take but those backdoor giftings are inexcusable. Sort it out or we will travel along the same as last years early season and coaches from other teams will quietly run their plays to expose it when Peach is on and take the easy baskets.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
07:12 2 Nov 15

Reply #560554

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

somehow fearne managed to rotate our defence on the switch and whenever gibbo or randle was under the basket they ended up on loughton burston or tradg and up they went. clever fearne !!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:28 2 Nov 15

Reply #560574

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

Anon #560554...that's Mcleod, not Fearne!


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Thunder Jam
Two years ago
19:44 3 Nov 15

Reply #560856

re: Adelaide v Cairns, Oct 31

I don't know what KJ is on but Craig can't produce waiting for his go behind Weigh?
Fearne groupie obviously?


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