Anonymous
Years ago

Replacement for Ere

Have heard on good authority that management have contacted Nate Robinsons agent to bring him into the sixers with an nba out clause. Would be a big coup to have an nba slam dunk champion join the league.

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Tom  
Years ago

Haven't heard a more bullshit rumour in years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

We've already got a 5'9" PG why would we need another one?

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Mark-e-Mark  
Years ago

"We've already got a 5'9" PG why would we need another one?"

With Nate Robinson, it wouldn't matter. I think Randle and Nate would tare the league a new asshole.

"Haven't heard a more bullshit rumour in years."

Not that long ago people were talking about Ben Gordon...


Fact is, this is highly unlikely. Ebi is one of Joeys boyfriends, so expect no change what-so-ever.

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

Lol
Hilarious

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AngusH  
Years ago

Hot sauce anon!

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Yeah, nah. If you just said that we were shopping around for a new import, I might have believed it. But Nate Robinson makes no sense.
When you have Jerome Randle and Adam Gibson starting at the 1 and 2, you don't need another undersized guard who will demand 25+ minutes. Can't play all 3 at once.

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Cat in the Hat  
Years ago

"Have heard on good authority", which roughly translates to "I'm just making some shit up".

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KingJames  
Years ago

Don't feed the trolls

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Jokes aside and trolls aside... how long can the 6ers be cool with an import delivering what he is?? Any ither guy would be shipped out by now...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You mean like you just did KingJames?

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Happy Days  
Years ago

Heard Elvis is Ebe's replacement!!!

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

Ebi's value transcends whats on the Stat sheet.

He's a great glue guy.

Joey sees value in him.

The organisation sees value in him.

Its time the fans saw value in him.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agree Marcus, probably one of the better blokes out there. Don't underestimate his effect on the team chemistry.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Ohhhh you 2!

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Curtley  
Years ago

If the 6ers want a glue guy they should go after al Harrington in a few weeks.

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Mark-e-Mark  
Years ago

Lol. Al Harrington hasn;t shown me anything in the first 2 games they couldn't have got from someone out of SEABL. Yes, he was an NBA player, but he has had much, much better days.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Harrington is about as good as Ere. ;)

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Someone below 35 would be a good start. Whoever it was who made the Randle call, should take a pat on the back and have a look for another replacement. Can you imagine how bad it'd be if Mcneail had stayed at this stage. Well imagine how much better it'd be if they could make one more upgrade. Locker room guys are everywhere, this team doesnt need a guy clapping they need an extra defense absorbing threat.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

An import that can actually hit shots would be handy.

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Benno  
Years ago

This 36ers team doesnt need a locker room guy they need someone who can win them games! Winning games = good locker room culture.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I will replace Ebi if necessary lol

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Exactly, its such a cop out to say he is this amazing off court presence. We could've signed Ray Gordon for a locker room guy!!

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

Diamon Simpson for the replacement if the club chooses that path.

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Kenny  
Years ago

What's with the Diamon Simpson man crush Champ?

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Kenny  
Years ago

What's with the Diamon Simpson man crush Champ?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just shows you that Harrington in the CBA got paid a lot of money and never was fit. That equates to the CBA.

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

Its not just the glue guy aspect. Ebi keeps a cool head under pressure.

To be able to draw 2 fouls and nail all four free throws is valuable in crunch time.I think that is under-appreciated.

I realise he cannot give you 25 / 5 / 5 anymore, but Joey's team is built around Australian talent. There is (should be) ample scoring punch from DJ, Gibbo, Creek, Teys and Peach.

Ebi's role is more complementary than star recruit.

Joey knows this. Let Joey's plan take shape.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

No thankyou the plan isnt working. You can never have too much talent and we as a club are undervaluing the import position we have filled. You keep going back to these 4 free throws, its good but wasn't match winning stuff. Besides, its his role to make them, its all the misses previous that the issue really is. But you know this, your just doing what you do...

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JRich  
Years ago

Get Gerald Wallace

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Sixers Fan  
Years ago

Gerald Wallace would be good if we didn't have Walker or Creek. He is a better version of those guys.

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scott  
Years ago

Adelaide fans are incredibly fickle, im getting sick of it, everyday there is sack ebi ere thread.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Locker room/glue guy...give me a break! Randle himself said he has never played in a better environment with a better bunch of guys who legitimately all get along - they don't need a locker room/glue guy from their import spot! In actual fact they probably have too many locker room/glue guys.

Marcus, stop banging on about 4 bloody clutch free throws and how he drew clutch fouls. 1 call was a 50/50 charge and the other was a drawn up play of an inbounds to get him free. There are plenty of players who can hit 4 clutch free throws not only in the team but elsewhere.

Look at the season as a whole! If you're hanging your hat on 4 clutch free throws and a locker room presence then you're really clutching at straws!

He needs to go - plain and simple!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Fickle or want to see their team succeed and be successful?!

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

@Kobe

The plan isn't working to its maximum potential, yes.

The plan is 2 rounds old, with Randle and his new found role as go to scorer, things changed.

Allow the team to get familiar with the new structure, its not just Ebi that has to re-adjust, its Gibbo and the rest as well..

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Marcus Camby  
Years ago

@Anon'515.

Exactly right....the positive environment that Randle recognised are precisely what Ebi and the other senior players foster.

Thank you for bringing that to our attention.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'll be the first to admit that ebi probably needs to be in a little better shape. But we are only one month into the season and he is working his way into full fitness. The team is 3-3 and lost on a buzzer beater so there's no need to panic. I say let him play his way into shape and form. If in a months time he still looks the same then we should consider our options

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koberulz  
Years ago

Why does everyone seem to think Ebi should be starring on a team with Jerome Randle, Adam Gibson and Daniel Johnson?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I actually thought the Ere signing might turn out to be a shrewd decision by the 36ers. Lots of people were lamenting his age, saying he was 'washed-up' and 'over the hill', but he had decent numbers overseas in France and Puerto Rico last season, numbers which would stack up favourably against many other imports in the NBL this season.

But then again I didn't anticipate he'd be in such poor physical shape ...

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Kobe24  
Years ago

He needs to go, enough of the sugar coated stuff. He may be the nicest person known to man but for an Import spot he is no longer up to NBL standard.

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Mark-e-Mark  
Years ago

"Adelaide fans are incredibly fickle, im getting sick of it, everyday there is sack ebi ere thread."

That is actually the opposite of fickle. Adelaide fans have wanted him gone before he even arrived. If anything, Adelaide's views on Ebi Ere are one of the few things they have remained solid about.

"Why does everyone seem to think Ebi should be starring on a team with Jerome Randle, Adam Gibson and Daniel Johnson?"

No one said starring. Contributing something while on court would be a nice start, though. Being in shape fitting a guy who plays basketball as a career would also be highly regarded. Something more than throwing the ball in the general direction of the ring and hoping for the best.

"The team is 3-3 and lost on a buzzer beater so there's no need to panic. I say let him play his way into shape and form. If in a months time he still looks the same then we should consider our options"

It's a short season. No one can afford to 'wait and see' on imports. Ebi is not 'bringing it'. There is no sign to say he will. Right now, the Adelaide 36ers are pissing money down the drain on him when they could get a guy 10 years younger who can do what Ebi does and more. In a month, we might be out of the play off race.

"Marcus, stop banging on about 4 bloody clutch free throws and how he drew clutch fouls. 1 call was a 50/50 charge and the other was a drawn up play of an inbounds to get him free. There are plenty of players who can hit 4 clutch free throws not only in the team but elsewhere. "

Yes, they are merely freethrows. I have seen a lot of clutch freethrows this season by a lot of guys not named Ebi Ere. It is hardly a rare phenomena. Professional basketball players worth their salt should be able to hit free throws. That is why they call them "free".




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Anonymous  
Years ago

i'm worried creek will go next year. he hit his straps last season and now he is relegated to bench again with limited minutes. yet v cairns at one point he hit hw floor with randle and then the magic connection between them happened. next thing he is off and ere is on again. love joey but have a few pet hates about him as well and this is one of them. let it run on a while and see what happens

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Anonymous  
Years ago

DQ anyone??

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He isjiey's boy so he ain't going no where

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey knows Ebi aint up to it, especially defensively and that's why he kept subbing Creek in for him on every defensive play he could.

Marcus, my point is...you can take out Ere and team chemistry wont be affected.

If you listened to Joey before the season regarding recruitment, Ebi doesn't fit what he said he wanted and the team required! The Ebi of years gone by might have been but not this version.

Koberulz, I don't expect Ere or that import spot to star...I just want them to look dangerous and put in on the defensive end - the pay packet Ebi is getting for his production don't align.

Anon #560556...Creek is a little overrated. He is very limited in his abilities and whilst he is good at a lot of things, he is great at nothing. He needs to improve his ball handling and shooting a lot. Like Gibson he is too passive but plays his best basketball when he is (occassionally)aggressive.

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Dave  
Years ago

One important thing with Ere is that he would be on role player money. I think people are getting hung up on the fact that he's an import. We are lucky that we have a pretty good core of Aussie players, who would be on decent money. We had a role player spot to fill and role player money. We were lucky to be in a position that we had an import spot left. He's been up and down but has provided some big shots and cluth free throws etc...

The more I Type, the more I think that I'm trying to make myself believe it...

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KingJames  
Years ago

"Joey knows Ebi aint up to it, especially defensively and that's why he kept subbing Creek in for him on every defensive play he could."

Wright also subbed Randle out on the last play. Does that mean he is not up to it also? Ere's main focus is offense, if there is a better defensive player than put them on just like he did. It is a strategy used in the NBA and all over the world.

"Creek is a little overrated. He is very limited in his abilities and whilst he is good at a lot of things, he is great at nothing."

He is a great defender. He is great athletically. He is a great team member. He is great for the club.

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KingJames  
Years ago

Dave "One important thing with Ere is that he would be on role player money."

The impression most people have is that he is on big money. Coming out of playing in Europe would suggest he would be. If he is on role player money and that is all we can afford than everyone's expectations should go down.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

On role player money you can get a lot better. A number of gem imports have been on lower end salaries in recent years. It's about getting it right which can be tough but if you spend the money right (on scouting) you'll save in the long run but getting the import slots right is extremely important. Guys like Ervin, Jackson, Deleon, Lisch, Redage etc were all on avg money I the first season so guys it can happen despite the cash played you just gotta do your homework

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No idea what Ere is on but his signing was pushed as our 'main' import signing and McNeail as the cheap secondary import which suggests Ere would be on more than role player money.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Like the last anon said there are better options that will help this team win more than not for the same money. Easier to replace an import with all the other options out there than an aussie who is struggling. Ebi is done... slow old and cant shoot consistently.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

King James...Randle was subbed out for 1 play, Ebi was subbed in and out for half a quarter - bit of a difference!

Creek is an above average defender but he isn't great (he isn’t even top 2 at our club) and it’s all good and well to be athletic but he isn’t using that to his advantage either!

Awesome…another great club man – if only Championships were won by the amount of great club men you have on your team!

Don’t get me wrong, I love Creek but he is overhyped for what he produces.

Also, Kenyon was the budget import….Ebi is on more than you think!

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Bretts The Man  
Years ago

Cant Shoot
Cant Run
Cant Defend
Cant move
Cant get ball unless set play from mate
Cant drive past a stobie pole
can't --- Many more
BUT we must keep as
Good locker room boy.
Joey friend
And can get clutch free throws ( well did once )
We seen the difference Randell made , so forget ego etc Joey and cut him please please.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Joey's ego will out weigh his logic on this one sadly. Its pretty bad state, the fans aren't stupid but doubt Joey could handle having ANOTHER import cut under his reign. Even though it should've been done by now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey needs someone to chill wit

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KingJames  
Years ago

"Creek is an above average defender but he isn't great (he isn't even top 2 at our club)"

Who would you rate as better defenders than him? Please don't say Gibson. Gibson is now too slow to guard the quick perimeter players and gets abused when switching to bigger players. Wright would also rate Creek as a great defender. In this instance every time he came on in the 4th he would put him on Starks as far as I remember.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

I think its had to say who the best defender in the 36ers is, its more a team thing with the way they go about it. When the full court trap is working everyone looks good. Don't have any D-Mac types that are true lock down defenders etc No one looked good the other night anyways, so many layups given up was depressing after 3 minutes in!

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KingJames  
Years ago

True Kobe24. I just wished Randle had DMac hands. For someone that can move so quick I would have expected him to get into strong defensive positions as well as take charges.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

WTF is a stobie pole?

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Kobe24  
Years ago

If he did he probs wouldn't be playing NBL! Thats the thing with the NBL, within reason, will always get imports with some weakness, otherwise they'd be in the big show. He is a massive upgrade on Mcneail though, got lucky in a way on that one.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

King James...Joey himself has said Teys is their best defender, Gibbo 2nd.

Starks burned us so not sure what you are trying to achieve with that example?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I think people are getting too hung up on the fact he is an import. This isn't the 90s anymore where your impprts dominate the ball and scoresheet. Australian talent has gone to another level especially with the influx of returning stars this year like Goulding and penney jawai. Imports being superstars barely exist anymore most are role players and ere is doing just fine in that capacity as a dangerous shooter / scorer with a closers instincts.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Pretty sure I saw this guy getting a yiros today. Looks like he's taking everything pretty seriously

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Dazz  
Years ago

The impression everybody has is that EVERYBODY is on BIG money.
Nobody actually knows jack, but everybody posts with authority.

Way, way back in the day, I worked for a firm that specialised in "Tax Planning" for professional athletes, and I did the work for several Eagles including a few "super stars" I was surprised by two things.
Firstly the incredible amount they got paid for media work, but secondly how many of the older "stars" were on WAY less than the media reported.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I defended the signing of Ebi and thought he would be around the mark of Penney, he hasnt reached that which is disappointing, however he is probably as good as any of the import forwards we have had in Joeys reign, we made the GF with Frye/Carter filling the import forward spot, so if the rest of the guys fill there roles well and Ebi can lift his shooting form then we could still have a strong team.

We are 3-3 and a buzzer beater away from being 4-2 so its not all bad, with plenty of room for improvement.

In consistency of some of our Aussies, lack of defense despite having many Aussies who are said to be defenders to compensate for there inconsistent offense ala Gibson are bigger issues than Ebi Ere imo.

I personally think we need to unleash Hodgson into the starting 5 to try and give us some rim protection,

I wouldnt mind seeing a starting 5 of Randle, Gibdon, Creek or Walker, Johnson, Hodgson

Walker or Creek gives us length and athleticism on the wings, Randle and Johnson and shoot from the perimiter and be our main scorers, and Hodgson gives us size and rim protection on the inside.



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Anonymous  
Years ago

Most imports are role players...WTF are you smoking?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It's true mate. Here are the best two teams:

Melbourne - Holt, Warrick. Holt probably the 3rd option behind Goulding and Kickert. Warrick doesn't even start.

Perth - Beal, Prather. Beal a star, but not a superstar. Prather definitely a role player, though an upper tier one.

The only team I can think of that opts for the "superstars" strategy with their imports are the Kings: Childress, Thornton, Harrington and they are probably the worst team in the league. Dysfunctional. It's about building the best team, not assembling the best resumes. Team ball will beat individual ball. That's why Ebe's fit into the team dynamic should not be underestimated.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Adelaide - Randle / Ere
Cairns - Starks / Craig
Melbourne - Holt / Warrick
NZ - Jackson / Jackson
Perth - Beal / Prather
Sydney - Childress / Thornton
Townsville - Conklin / Jett
Illawarra - Lisch

Only Ere, Craig, Jackson, Prather and Jett would be considered role playing imports. That's 33%, not most!

However, every one of those has had at least 1 impressive game and offers more than anything Ere offers.

Ere on current statistics would be the worst import in the League!

Cut the crap about a role playing team man who hits clutch free throws and be realistic!

The problem with your statement "It's about building the best team, not assembling the best resumes. Team ball will beat individual ball. That's why Ebe's fit into the team dynamic should not be underestimated."

Ebi was brought in because of his resume - it most definitely wouldn't be for what he is currently dishing up. Team ball will beat individual ball, so tell me why Ere goes off on his hero ball stretches and jacks up everything he can get his hands on..?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Starks Craig and conklin are all role players mate. I know that sounds silly since conklin win mvp last year but the crocs have changed their game style this year

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gee, start a crazy rumour and everyone loses their minds.

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LV  
Years ago

Until a few days ago everybody said Starks and Thornton were not meeting expectations and could have been in line for a replacement. Both put in a great performance over the weekend (especially Starks).

Maybe there's a lesson there.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Yeah the lesson is guys who have the physical capabilities to get better and reach a higher potential will usually show glimpses. Old slow unfit chuckers have usually had their day in the sun. Use his import 'role' for a better option with a higher ceiling. Thornton by the way, although putting up stats was still taking a lot out of the team offense. Starks always showed the glimpses, he was overdue with his ability he has previously shown... weeks ago, not years ago.

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KingJames  
Years ago

"Starks burned us so not sure what you are trying to achieve with that example?"

The example proved Wright would prefer to put Creek on Starks and not Gibson. Also he didn't burn Creek. The teams defense is to switch on the screen which Starks did smartly and scored on the switched defender.

Also the swapping for Creek and Ere for defensive purposes only, didn't happen for half the quarter like you said it was for the last 1:45.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kobe 24 is the only one here that makes any real sense.

Tell me this, why does Walker or Sobey do 1 dumb thing and get dragged and berated...even Gibbo has had this done but all the dumb non team crap Ebi does and Joey defends him - it's way out of hand!

Hodgson comes on and plays well, scores well early yet gets taken off and rarely seen for the rest of the game...why?

Joey's coaching has been very suspect this season!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

King James...felt like half a quarter - but that's probably cos it happened so often and took Ebi so long to get off the court!

I understand the team defense rules but Starks should have been prevented from getting the ball and if he did, he should have been doubled.

Creek isn't as good a defender as you think...watch him closely for a game or two.

And, Joey was out-coached again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

If you think Starks and Conklin are role players you're sadly mistaken!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey is shit

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Don't get carried away with one big game by starks. Prior to that Cairns were speaking of him in exactly the same way ere appears to be spoken of e.g. we need someone who can do more. Can we get wilbekin back etc etc

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Starks was having a flat patch but they knew what he was capable of, especially after winning the Blitz MVP with Holt.

We all know what Ebi is capable of....pretty much nothing, but that's ok because he is great in the locker room!

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Kobe24  
Years ago

I think with starks it was probably a insecurity issue with wilbekin always close to the 76ers chopping board. I see alot in the timing of wilkekin signing in turkey and starks letting loose! Thinking at the end of every training you could get the pat on the back would mess with your head... these guys are only human. He looked like he played with a happy approach against the 6ers. Curious to see if he goes on with it now.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kobe24...you don't average 17ppg out of a college like Georgetown if you're average. They knew what he was capable of but as you say may not have been 100% with it psychologically. I think he will have more good games than not now, that game and game winner against us will have him playing with confidence.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

I hope so, I liked the way he went about the other night, made the 36ers pay for some poor defence. And the league needs teams like Cairns competing, he just needs to build off that performance now.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Tell me this, why does Walker or Sobey do 1 dumb thing and get dragged and berated...even Gibbo has had this done but all the dumb non team crap Ebi does and Joey defends him - it's way out of hand!

Hodgson comes on and plays well, scores well early yet gets taken off and rarely seen for the rest of the game...why?
IMO, this is often an indicator that a player is making (or typically makes) poorer decisions about plays, spacing, etc. Basketball IQ stuff or being new to a team.

Here's a good example of the subtle thing I'm talking about:

Kyle Anderson vs Boston

Anderson is #1 for the Spurs, sitting baseline but moves as the play progresses. Diaw (33) and Mills (8) tell Anderson off because he has moved from the very specific place he's meant to be. They would've had a wide open three! You see Pop immediately go to the bench and sub him out.

Pop has talked before about he ignores watching tape and scouting, and instead drills his team on their own plays.

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Bear  
Years ago

Great example Isaac, Diaw sets a perfect screen and Mills hits the pass beautifully, no wonder POP wasn't very happy with No.1, who looked kind of mystified initially. I am sure it would have been a lot clearer for him sitting on the pine watching...

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Bear  
Years ago

Oh, and I bet that turnover went against poor old Patty!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Isaac...I'm all for it if it is deserved, I just don't understand how everyone with the exception of Ebi gets a roasting but Ebi gets defended?! Does Joey owe Ebi money or something..?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Jarrod Hayne available

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koberulz  
Years ago

Where the hell was Anderson even going on that play? Priority one on a baseline drive is filling the opposite corner; all he was doing was putting more defenders between him and the ball.

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