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mystro
Two years ago

#38412

R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The NZ Breakers (4/3) head to Melbourne to face an unbeaten United (8/0) side on Sunday without Mika Vukona (high hamstring strain) and Tai Wesley (1st child due to be born).

Breakers DP Tai Wynyard will travel with the team and is expected to play some minutes in their absence.

Dean Vickerman has said his plan is to start Ced Jackson, Corey Webster, Tom Abercrombie, Charles Jackson and Alex Pledger.
Rueben TeRangi will cover a lot of time at Power Forward off the bench.

It's a shame Mika Vukona & Tai Wesley are out for this one but the Goulding Vs Webster battle should be worth the price of admission. Then throw in Blanchfield Vs Abercrombie and Holt Vs Jackson and it should be an exciting match.

It will be hard to bet against a red hot Melbourne United side at home, especially without Wesley who has been on form for NZ the last couple of games.

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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
16:14 7 Nov 15

Reply #562266

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

United to win 130-25

United shoot 38 3 pointers from 48 attempts.

Goulding to go off with 70 points including 22 3 pointers from 25 attempts.

5 of your those 3s from near half court with 3 breakers players on him.

Holt to score 8 3 pointers, including 4 of those with his back to the basket blind folded.

After the game, the United will be ordered to ditch the NBL and go straight to the NBA.

From there, they will go 70-0 (only playing 70 games because they will be joining the season after it has started.

After they sweep the play offs with no team getting near 10 points of them. They will sweep the Golden State Warriors in the NBA finals.

After they get the title of being the best ever sporting team in the history of humanity, the United will play an NBA all stars team consisting of

pg - Steph Curry
sg - Lebron James
sf - Kevin Durant
pf - Anthony Davis
c - Dwight Howard

Bench is James Harden, Klay Thompson, Carmello Anthony, Andrew Bogut.

They then defeat this team 190-64 with Chris Goulding scoring 100 points including 33 made 3 pointers. His only miss was a FT.

Holt made 10 3pointers, including 5 of those from the other side of the court blind folded.

After this game, the rules of basketball have to be changed because United are that good, they made a mockery of the game.


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LV
Two years ago
16:41 7 Nov 15

Reply #562273

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Haha.

Shame that Wesley is missing he's been huge lately.

I'd much prefer seeing these teams match up with both at full strength.


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
16:43 7 Nov 15

Reply #562274

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Haha love this! Better than the usual textual jousting that's rife among anonymous contributors.

With regard to the game, I didn't account for the absence of Wesley when I said NZ would win. Wynyard is a talent though. I'll stick to my guns and say Breakers by a half dozen. Reckon a defensive point guard and bigs who can board are the keys to stopping United.


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koberulz
Two years ago
16:47 7 Nov 15

Reply #562276

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Breakers DP Tai Wynyard will travel with the team and is expected to play some minutes in their absence.
I wouldn't have thought he'd be able to play away games without it affecting his NCAA eligibility?


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
16:59 7 Nov 15

Reply #562278

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

A shame Wesley and Vukona are out. Think Breakers will give them a good go but won't win without those two.


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paul
Two years ago
18:00 7 Nov 15

Reply #562285

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

NCAA eligibilty would only be jeopardised if he got paid I think. He's already played on the road this year.


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:43 7 Nov 15

Reply #562296

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

But to play him on the road, don't they have to put him on the main roster and pay him?


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paul
Two years ago
18:47 7 Nov 15

Reply #562298

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

No, that rule has changed.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:54 7 Nov 15

Reply #562300

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Can't wait for dis game!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:15 7 Nov 15

Reply #562379

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Paul, why isn't Harry Froling regularly playing for the Crocs then?


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Ruszo
Two years ago
00:21 8 Nov 15

Reply #562455

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

New Zealand by17!!!! for sure!!


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koberulz
Two years ago
00:23 8 Nov 15

Reply #562456

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Paul, why isn't Harry Froling regularly playing for the Crocs then?
Because he's not on their main roster?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
07:11 8 Nov 15

Reply #562475

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

It will be good to see Bailey get some more court time with Wesley and Vukona both out


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Mystro
Two years ago
09:13 8 Nov 15

Reply #562493

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Bailey was released to retain Bartlett anon.


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paul
Two years ago
10:06 8 Nov 15

Reply #562511

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

"Paul, why isn't Harry Froling regularly playing for the Crocs then?"

Unfortunately I don't coach the Crocs, so I'm the wrong person to ask. Perhaps hit up @sdwithenergy on twitter?


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
11:12 8 Nov 15

Reply #562518

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Massive game for NZ if they can get the win.

United are hot hot hot at the moment and can't seem to do anything wrong. They're like that mate everyone's got who lands on his feet.

The shootout between Goulding and Webster will be something to watch.

I get the feeling this might end up in single figures come the final siren. NZ are a team who don't know how to die easily and just keep going. "yippee ki yay"

Whatever you do don't miss the fourth quarter. I'm going to put my neck out here and tip an upset win to the Breakers. NZ by 3.


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Colcon
Two years ago
11:46 8 Nov 15

Reply #562524

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Individuals (ie both prospective student-athletes and student-athletes) would lose their NCAA amateur status if they are paid for their athletic skill. They can however receive prescribed expenses for travel etc. Travelling with the team would not be an issue as long as they are not paid for playing. Individuals will also lose amateur status if they play on a professional team which is, among other definitions, any team that has a paid player - which is the NBL & SEABL and probably most Big V teams. However, there is an important exception for prospective student-athletes (eg Wynard/Froling) who can play on a professional team so long as they haven't commenced full-time tertiary studies. If they enrolled in a full-time course, went to one lecture and played with a professional team then their College future evaporates. Part-time tertiary studies are ok but prospective student athletes need to be very careful with what constitutes part-time in the eyes of the NCAA who are very strict in this area. I know of players with shattered dreams because of these rules (applies to all three divs in NCAA and NAIA and NJCAA practically identical).


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Kobe24
Two years ago
12:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562540

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Cant see United's streak finishing today, NZ are not the powerhouse they have been and without Wesley who seems to be a solid part to their stuff, will be tough. United are tough enough when your at full strength! United have been causing but should lift for this one... again.


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paul
Two years ago
12:50 8 Nov 15

Reply #562543

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Probably no more important player for their team than Mika Vukona, he's one of the world's best PFs at defending the ball-screen, and that's crucial to slowing Melbourne.

NZ will be a power by the end of the season if Pledger stays healthy, but with both their PFs missing today it would be a hell of a statement to win. Looking forward to it regardless.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562556

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Why is Wesley out?


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snooch
Two years ago
13:44 8 Nov 15

Reply #562557

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Stayed behind because his wife/partner is due to give birth.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:21 8 Nov 15

Reply #562561

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Lame


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
14:41 8 Nov 15

Reply #562565

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Not sure if that's lame, but not having a 24 second clock is.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:42 8 Nov 15

Reply #562566

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Melbourne look disinterested


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:42 8 Nov 15

Reply #562567

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Agreed Wilson


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AngusH
Two years ago
14:45 8 Nov 15

Reply #562568

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

No shotclock is pretty inexcusable... What if the game comes down to the final seconds, do we check if a player got the shot off before the announcer finished saying '1'?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:48 8 Nov 15

Reply #562569

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Well called Dwayne on the Euro step


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:49 8 Nov 15

Reply #562571

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

"No shotclock is pretty inexcusable... What if the game comes down to the final seconds, do we check if a player got the shot off before the announcer finished saying '1'?"

#Hardball


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Mystro
Two years ago
14:50 8 Nov 15

Reply #562572

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

NZ started off ok but have now resorted to leaving people wide open on the perimeter and then not boxing out.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:52 8 Nov 15

Reply #562573

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Holt on dose O-boards


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:52 8 Nov 15

Reply #562574

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Holt on dose O-boards


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Mystro
Two years ago
14:52 8 Nov 15

Reply #562575

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Young Tai Wynyard checking in


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:53 8 Nov 15

Reply #562576

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Shootouts FTW


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:54 8 Nov 15

Reply #562577

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Does anyone else think of Jarrett Jack when they hear Garrett Jackson?


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Mystro
Two years ago
14:59 8 Nov 15

Reply #562578

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

A decent crowd for this game.

Too many turnovers for NZ, if they can limit those in the next quarter the should be able to get a small lead heading into half time. Defensive rotations on the perimeter haven't been flash either. Kickert and Goulding won't miss many more open ones.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:01 8 Nov 15

Reply #562579

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Lol that was all ballz


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:02 8 Nov 15

Reply #562580

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Webster hit dem threes :(


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:10 8 Nov 15

Reply #562581

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

That was smoove


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
15:14 8 Nov 15

Reply #562582

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yeah I get that there's a decent relationship between the ref(s) and Goulding but that's just a lack of respect for the officials. Should be a tech foul warning right there. Refs need to respect themselves, they're the bosses here


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:16 8 Nov 15

Reply #562583

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Why is Jackson shooting long twos?


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Kobe24
Two years ago
15:24 8 Nov 15

Reply #562586

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

United dont seem too interested like someone else said, but they still lead. Reckon United could open this up if they hit a few more of the open looks they are getting.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562587

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Dan Ewing is HORRIBLE


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562588

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Dan Ewing is HORRIBLE


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:44 8 Nov 15

Reply #562589

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The refs are allowing the United win. The amount of bullshit calls they get is amazing.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:45 8 Nov 15

Reply #562590

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

New Zealand still title faves for mine


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Kobe24
Two years ago
15:46 8 Nov 15

Reply #562591

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Idiot, United are down 8 and do not look likely at the moment. NZ have a knack of getting these sort of games.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
15:47 8 Nov 15

Reply #562592

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The defenses in this league are overall rubbish...foul foul foul foul ...

If anyone dares to play any defense, the refs just call a foul.

The league wants high scoring and they are doing it artificially


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Steve
Two years ago
15:49 8 Nov 15

Reply #562593

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Does Jackson travel every time he drives left hand?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:49 8 Nov 15

Reply #562594

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

HE'S ON FIYAHHHHH


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:51 8 Nov 15

Reply #562596

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Can't understand why the quality of announcers is consistently so terrible in every state except WA


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AngusH
Two years ago
15:51 8 Nov 15

Reply #562597

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

'I wish Kickert and Goulding shot like that against us' - every other coach in the NBL.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
15:54 8 Nov 15

Reply #562599

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

These guys are ok... Greer is a little bit too pro Melbourne but they keep it interesting. Not as annoying as the United court side announcer and the shot clock countdown today!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:59 8 Nov 15

Reply #562600

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Damn Iggy


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:00 8 Nov 15

Reply #562602

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Blanchfield with the drive to remind everyone he does in fact play for Melbourne too.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:11 8 Nov 15

Reply #562604

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

This game has lived up to my expectations


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:13 8 Nov 15

Reply #562605

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Wow what a shit call


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:17 8 Nov 15

Reply #562607

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

'Wow what a shit call' should replace #hardball as the league's official hashtag.


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snooch
Two years ago
16:20 8 Nov 15

Reply #562608

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Haha, you still salty from last night AngusH??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:20 8 Nov 15

Reply #562609

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Agreed Angus


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:21 8 Nov 15

Reply #562610

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Covering their mics so people at home don't learn that they have no idea what to do.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 8 Nov 15

Reply #562611

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I dunno if that warrented an USF


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:22 8 Nov 15

Reply #562612

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

What the fuck.


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:22 8 Nov 15

Reply #562613

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Nope, been saying the same about the refereeing all season (and last season, and the season before....).


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:23 8 Nov 15

Reply #562614

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

This is the weirdest call ever. Flop by Goulding. How the he'll is that un sportsman like?


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:23 8 Nov 15

Reply #562615

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

That's a hideous call. No way that's unsportsmanlike.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:24 8 Nov 15

Reply #562616

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

LOL Cheats


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:24 8 Nov 15

Reply #562617

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

DIS GAME DOE


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Opt
Two years ago
16:24 8 Nov 15

Reply #562618

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Unsportsman on Webster has to be the worst call this season hands down


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Langers
Two years ago
16:25 8 Nov 15

Reply #562619

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

That was a disgraceful call. Just when I start to like Goulding he does that.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:25 8 Nov 15

Reply #562620

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Melbourne don't deserve to win in regulation. Make them earn it in OT.


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Victorian wildcat
Two years ago
16:25 8 Nov 15

Reply #562621

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Just a terrible call, no way that is un sportsman like. Worst call i've ever seen in basketball.


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:25 8 Nov 15

Reply #562622

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Bit early to call it the worst call this season, they've still got another 9.2 seconds with no shot clock. Let's see what the refs draw up here.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562623

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Disgraceful referring


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562624

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

What the hell that guys head


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562625

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

lol

A foul call... of course.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562626

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

0 contact

SO RIGGED


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562627

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Melbourne just had the game handed to them.
What a fucking joke.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562629

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

This game deserved overtime

Fuck you refs


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562630

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

So cruel on NZ!!!!!!!!!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562631

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Has LK paid off the refs? Utterly inexplicable unsportsmanlike call


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Langers
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562632

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Left a sour taste in my mouth.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562633

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Goulding is such a flopping #%%^*. That was not a hard push from Webster. He's played the refs again and this better go for a review. Take them on Vickerman. No I am not a breakers supporter either. Can someone put a reel together of all Goulding rubbish Yes he can shoot but the most dishonest player in the league on court and his smug smile today is typical of when he puts it on..


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
16:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562634

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I told you all this before....the refereeing in this league is beyond abysmal..

The referees turn into hometown cheerleaders.


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Opt
Two years ago
16:28 8 Nov 15

Reply #562635

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The whole clock saga is an absolute joke. How do you play professional sport without a functional fucking clock to work with


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562636

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

What a load of BS.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562637

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Wow.


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Steve
Two years ago
16:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562638

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I thought the idea of the refs wearing microphones was do we could hear what they're saying. Worst reffing I've seen in ages. Looks like a real amateur league with no shot clocks. What must the Dallas Mavs official think?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562639

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Terrible ending but another great example of basketball on a Sunday arvo for the league


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
16:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562640

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

No Justice


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Luuuc
Two years ago
16:30 8 Nov 15

Reply #562641

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The refs got into the hometown comeback spirit last night. They took it to another level today.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:30 8 Nov 15

Reply #562642

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Man this sideline commentator is soo cringeworthy


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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:32 8 Nov 15

Reply #562644

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yikes the refs were not great down the stretch there at all! I didnt think NZ got too bad a run there for most of the game but that was very odd the way that all played out. As a fan I kind of feel ripped off, did United actually win that...

And before the Perth fans get all over this, very different circumstances than that no call.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
16:33 8 Nov 15

Reply #562645

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Also, how the hell was Majok allowed to basically run into the lane at the last sec without the refs stopping or perhaps calling a violation.

Holt was about to shoot and he came running in.

That Mavericks scout must be absolutely shocked at the reffing in this league.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:33 8 Nov 15

Reply #562646

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Breakers didn't deserve that but credit to them heavily undermanned in the front court. Big effort.


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Hendo8888
Two years ago
16:33 8 Nov 15

Reply #562647

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

You mean Dan Ewing? Yeah, he adds absolutely nothing with his 'interviews'.


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AngusH
Two years ago
16:34 8 Nov 15

Reply #562648

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I feel like I just wasted 2 hours to watch Melbourne be gifted a win in what was an otherwise pretty enjoyable game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 8 Nov 15

Reply #562649

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

What were the differences Kobe24? Apart from Pledger not making contact


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 8 Nov 15

Reply #562650

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The refs screwed perth and today the breakers in melbourne. fukin bullshit


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 8 Nov 15

Reply #562652

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

It was a fantastic game.

Don't let the last 10 seconds overshadow a great spectacle.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:35 8 Nov 15

Reply #562654

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

So the head ref had money on United to win. Only possible explanation for that call.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:36 8 Nov 15

Reply #562655

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Looks like ced Jackson was chewing out the refs and fair enough


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Sean
Two years ago
16:37 8 Nov 15

Reply #562657

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Why was it called unsportsmanlike..? Was it the contact on Goulding...? Or because it came after the foul on Pledger...?


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sixtiesrockstar
Two years ago
16:40 8 Nov 15

Reply #562659

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

unsportsmanlike, yeah righto. Sixers supporter so don't care if NZ or Melb get what call. But the refs really stuffed that game up. Was really enjoying the finish and the refs just ruined it. They had no idea what decision to make and seemed to just make it up as time went on and somehow came up with unsportsmanlike. Looked like the last foul when Holt drove was guesswork "umm, should I or should I not" as ref really hesitated and delayed his call. Shame for that finish to what was otherwise another cracker of a game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:40 8 Nov 15

Reply #562660

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yes ewing or whatever his name is. So queer and the way he moves when asking questions is awkward


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snooch
Two years ago
16:41 8 Nov 15

Reply #562661

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Hahaha, Peach gets some back on Twitter.

Anthony Petrie [email protected]
@ChrisGoulding43 soooooo I took a legitimate charge and didn't flop and u took it to another level by doing that to get a win! Classic!


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Kyrie2Nation
Two years ago
16:42 8 Nov 15

Reply #562662

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Twitter exploding about how wrong the unsportsmanlike call was.


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Sean
Two years ago
16:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562664

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

They should have not called that foul on the Chief and let it go to OT


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
16:44 8 Nov 15

Reply #562665

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Is now a good time to bring up my above comment about Goulding patting the head(s) of officials and hugging them?


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Touch the rim
Two years ago
16:44 8 Nov 15

Reply #562666

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

No wonder they get zero respect


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Mystro
Two years ago
16:44 8 Nov 15

Reply #562667

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

It was unsportsmanlike because it happened after the majok foul so was in a dead ball situation, hence unsportsmanlike. Should have been a flopping foul on Goulding.


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Sean
Two years ago
16:46 8 Nov 15

Reply #562668

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

@Mystro - Thanks for the clarification, seemed to happen at the same time though.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:50 8 Nov 15

Reply #562669

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

All this crap about flopping, it goes back to consistantcy.

If you're pushed, you're pushed. Same shit happens with the AFL and 'soft calls'. It's not as though Goulding had a single finger layed on him that made him fly, he was pushed.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:51 8 Nov 15

Reply #562670

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Even if Webster was fouling Bubbles, how was he meant stop within a millisecond of the ref blowing his whistle?


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
16:53 8 Nov 15

Reply #562672

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The refs in this league are a sham...

So funny....

2 weeks ago, Beale gets HACKED, no call...

And now this at the end..

The refs cant hack the crowds...they turn into cheer leaders

The refs are Amateurs in this league...thats why this league will never rise in this country...




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Kobe24
Two years ago
16:59 8 Nov 15

Reply #562679

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Goulding flopped, bad call. Pledger didn't foul Holt, not eve close. And for the anon the difference is the Beal got blocked, any contact after that was a no issue, but thats been discussed.

I think more needs to be made of the Pledger thing, Holt just fell over, seemed so relieved to have heard the whistle. Bad final minute from he refs.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
17:03 8 Nov 15

Reply #562683

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yes. Do refs scout players as well? Holt does that often - will go for a layup and basically fall over as he shoots. Because it looks like he lands hard, the refs automatically presume contact when in fact he has just landed badly by trying to avoid a lot of the contact/get room for a shot off


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:04 8 Nov 15

Reply #562685

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

@mystro so it should have been an unsportsmanlike flopping foul.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:04 8 Nov 15

Reply #562686

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Pledger sure didn't do a lot wrong IMO


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
17:08 8 Nov 15

Reply #562688

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Kobe24, Beal got blocked and in the same motion got his arm hacked.....FOUL.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:12 8 Nov 15

Reply #562690

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

well the refs boss is Melbournes owner so goulding can pat heads hug and flop away. Wait until they hit the road for the hate goulding fan club to expand across the nation. send him to nba go ahead and see his wages whittlw away for his ridiculous sulking flops and fouls and ref touching and mouthing off.. at least we would be rid of him. couldn't care less about his shooting he just reminds me of all the smug shooting kids across the country who have the same attitude..


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:19 8 Nov 15

Reply #562693

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

kobe 24 you are as bad as you're idol the washed up choke cryant. Beal had his arm hacked in the same motion as the block. You are a strange cat


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:26 8 Nov 15

Reply #562698

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Costly play from Webster - even if Goulding exaggerated the contact, you could clearly see that he pushed him which was unnecessary.


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paul
Two years ago
17:27 8 Nov 15

Reply #562700

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

So sad that such a good game was decided by such a refereeing shambles. Sadly, after all the good stuff happening that's happened this season, today gives ammunition to those who call the NBL a bush league.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
17:29 8 Nov 15

Reply #562702

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Not going to get into the Beal thing we all have our valid opinions. Point was people were up in arms over that, but this has definite merit to complain about. This is not a Perth thread!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:31 8 Nov 15

Reply #562703

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

still a non call if they are hustling for position and webster is within his rights to have his arm bar out. goulding was in websters cylinder. simple. and that ref must have xray goggles from where he was.. move over conklin you are off the hook. goulding is now the nbl villan for a dirty win. he has history so the boy who cried wolf has just cried once too often that no one will come to help him. go vickerman and beware ref one of your collegues got in to trouble for a bad call influencing the outcome of a game and the touching will come in to play with a favouritism call.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:38 8 Nov 15

Reply #562707

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

You were the one who brought Perth in to it!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:40 8 Nov 15

Reply #562708

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The Holt "foul" on Plidga was as disgraceful as the Beal non foul a few weeks ago.


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Happy Days
Two years ago
17:42 8 Nov 15

Reply #562711

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Very ordinary reffing indeed.Breakers got the pineapple this afternoon!!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:46 8 Nov 15

Reply #562715

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Terrible ref. Just terrible


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Thunder Jam
Two years ago
17:52 8 Nov 15

Reply #562716

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

1. Shot clock was a joke.
2. Goulding cuddling refs is a very bad look.
3. The unsportsmanlike was a terrible call.
4. The Pledger foul was there & called all night.
5. Dean made a howler not fouling with 9 secs left. You have both centres fouled out & you are happy hoping for overtime? Ridiculous ,foul immediately & have 7 secs left to win with a three!


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Keany
Two years ago
17:57 8 Nov 15

Reply #562717

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Thank good this didn't happen against Adelaide the internet would blow up


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Kobe24
Two years ago
18:00 8 Nov 15

Reply #562720

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I thought the Pledger call wasnt there, but interesting take on fouling early and going for the win on the, I like it Thunder jam!!


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paul
Two years ago
18:00 8 Nov 15

Reply #562721

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Except both centres weren't fouled out with nine seconds to go. Pledger was on and played excellent defence on the switch to force overtime ... Oh wait.


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Mystro
Two years ago
18:03 8 Nov 15

Reply #562722

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Tommy Abercrombie played pretty good huh? Ally dunk, automatic on the mid range j and then all the 3's and still played great d.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
18:06 8 Nov 15

Reply #562723

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Best game I've seen Abercrombie play for a loooong time, those back to back 3's in the 3rd kept United down.


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paul
Two years ago
18:07 8 Nov 15

Reply #562724

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Tom's having a super season, the guy rarely makes a mistake and makes Important plays at both ends.

I thought the Breakers made the same mistake the Tall Blacks sometimes make, that is continuing to go to Webster/Penney when they are having off nights. No way Webster should got 22 shots up today, he just wasn't feeling it.


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Mystro
Two years ago
18:08 8 Nov 15

Reply #562726

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Pledger played great d on Kickert at the end there and his d on holt was pretty good as well. The big guy is hopefully playing himself into some form. Charles Jackson brings a ton of energy, especially chasing o boards and getting up and down the floor.


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Mystro
Two years ago
18:13 8 Nov 15

Reply #562730

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I guess Webster can catch fire at any minute so they were happy to let him chuck them up and prey he got hot.
They should have run more plays for Tommy and used Webster more as a decoy.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:14 8 Nov 15

Reply #562731

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&t=16&v=tL0L64yplDU

Boy crying wolf yet again... history make you suspicious...


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paul
Two years ago
18:23 8 Nov 15

Reply #562735

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Spot on Mystro, something the Tall Blacks can do much more effectively too. Get Webster back in the game by getting other guys scoring and shifting the focus of the D a little.


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Bear
Two years ago
18:24 8 Nov 15

Reply #562736

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I must say, it could look like UTD are getting some very lucky calls that result in a win, but could that just be a conspiracy theory, not sure...

What I am sure about is this, officials have been very, very, very inconsistent this season and this NBL season has not been boring, that's about it really!


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Mystro
Two years ago
18:31 8 Nov 15

Reply #562741

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Oh and Ced Jackson got another triple double.


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paul
Two years ago
18:33 8 Nov 15

Reply #562742

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yeah, it's unfortunate a new reffing boss is making mistakes that have been made in the past, but despite the incredible inconsistency the players are really starting to put on a great show (as they do most years just nobody promotes it) after a patchy first week or two.


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koberulz
Two years ago
18:43 8 Nov 15

Reply #562746

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

5. Dean made a howler not fouling with 9 secs left. You have both centres fouled out & you are happy hoping for overtime? Ridiculous ,foul immediately & have 7 secs left to win with a three!
Never.

Ever.

EVER.

Foul to give the other team the lead.


EVER.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
19:02 8 Nov 15

Reply #562754

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

I kind of liked the idea Thunder Jam threw out there, worst case your down 2 with shooters ready to fire and time on the clock. As it turned out a pretty bad call decided it anyways. Why not be in control of your own shooting destiny to a degree... Thinking outside the box.


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koberulz
Two years ago
19:07 8 Nov 15

Reply #562756

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Better off either going to OT or getting a chance to win it in regulation (if there's a turnover or something), rather than putting yourself in a situation where you *need* to score.


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koberulz
Two years ago
19:08 8 Nov 15

Reply #562757

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

And even if you think it's a reasonable idea, to say not adhering to it is a 'howler' is ridiculous.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
19:25 8 Nov 15

Reply #562763

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Well the terminology of howler is probably to do with a bit of heated passion, its def not ball 101, but i like it purely due to the fact it never even crossed my mind. Got to love basketball for stuff like that. Not often you get the TO with 9 secs left cos the PG will dribble out the clock, and then yeah your best bet is OT.


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koberulz
Two years ago
19:37 8 Nov 15

Reply #562767

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Sure, but I'd rather take OT and back my players to outscore the other team in five minutes than have to outscore them in five seconds.

I remember Gordie did it once, with the Hawks against the Blaze. Didn't end well.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:45 8 Nov 15

Reply #562771

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The actual rule which appears to be wrongly interpreted is 37.1.1


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:49 8 Nov 15

Reply #562773

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

The other rule that was ignored at the end was 43.2.5


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koberulz
Two years ago
19:54 8 Nov 15

Reply #562774

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Yeah, it turns out the NBL rule, like the NBA rule, only applies to the defence.

Not sure 43.2.5 applies, as Majok was occupying a lane position, even though he got there late.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:02 8 Nov 15

Reply #562781

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

@mystro not all fouls in the last 2 minutes in a dead ball situation are unsportsmanlike fouls.

There would only be an unsportsmanlike foul possible if 1) the ball is in the hands in the official or player passing the ball in.

The ball was in neither of those positions.

Even if the ref or inbounding player still had the ball in their hands then only the defensive player can get an unsportsmanlike foul called against them, not the offensive player.

It should only have ever been a personal foul.


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newbe
Two years ago
20:32 8 Nov 15

Reply #562789

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Why do the refs want to give Melbourne games. That's two now that Melbourne have been given.Perth and now NZ. These guys need to be sacked!!!


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Blitz101
Two years ago
00:48 9 Nov 15

Reply #562832

re: R5: Breakers Vs United 8/11/2015 Hisense

Just watched the replay and ref was sucked in and looks like he realised it halfway through the call looking at his body language he was like fouloohhifuckedup!!


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