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Anonymous
Two years ago

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How people see the Wildcats

Interesting read.
http://www.theage.com.au/sport/basketball/perth-wildcats-the-last-team-that-should-complain-about-copping-hard-fouls-20151110-gkv7r9.html

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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
21:05 10 Nov 15

Reply #563249

re: How people see the Wildcats

What a stupid article. If you immediately compare Redhages flopping to Conklins elbow, you're not really making much of a point.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:19 10 Nov 15

Reply #563254

re: How people see the Wildcats

I can't believe shit like that gets published


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Very Old
Two years ago
21:32 10 Nov 15

Reply #563259

re: How people see the Wildcats

"The Wildcats don't seem to realise the perception among other teams is they have been dishing out hard fouls for many years and, for the most part, getting away with them at little cost."

Hmm clearly a total misrepresentation of the true affection that teams, players and coaches across the nation have for the Perth " hard bun-hair men" who are actually regarded as cuddly powder puffs with hearts of soft gold.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
21:39 10 Nov 15

Reply #563262

re: How people see the Wildcats

I'm quite certain they are aware of their reputation and they don't particularly care. But to say they can't complain about one had foul that broke their captains jaw because of their reputation is terrible logic.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:49 10 Nov 15

Reply #563265

re: How people see the Wildcats

Thats pretty spot on, down to the begrudging respect. Not sure what the issue is, thats about it. They push the envelope til teams get pushed over the edge and retaliate.


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Mick
Two years ago
21:55 10 Nov 15

Reply #563266

re: How people see the Wildcats

I don't think they dish out hard fouls, they have just been reffed a little differently to other teams, mostly at home, in certain seasons over the past 5 or so years. Some years have been worse than others. It's not hard fouls it's more grappling and two hands on the ball carrier stuff, not dangerous at all.


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Mick
Two years ago
22:01 10 Nov 15

Reply #563269

re: How people see the Wildcats

That is, the elbowing, hip checking and stuff they are said to get away with is overblown IMO.

And to clarify: it's not dirty. You play what the refs give you. All power to them for playing a gritty style. I just think because they have a reputation for playing hard nosed and gritty, they have been allowed to get away with more than other teams in the past (not really this season or last, but up until the season before last more blatantly).


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paul
Two years ago
22:07 10 Nov 15

Reply #563271

re: How people see the Wildcats

Agreed Mick, and the reality is in the last two years with reffing crackdowns, 2010 and 2014, Perth won the title. They play how they're allowed to play and do it very well.


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koberulz
Two years ago
00:01 11 Nov 15

Reply #563282

re: How people see the Wildcats

Nate Jawai uses his considerable bulk to, often illegally, send opponents sprawling
Nathan Jawai goes around being bigger than people, how evil of him!

[Jesse Wagstaff] was of course the catalyst for Sydney import Josh Childress' infamous retaliatory strike at Perth Arena last season which went viral across the globe.
Jesse Wagstaff got hit in the face, how evil of him!

Kings players laughed among themselves that Wagstaff has not set any more screens on Childress in their subsequent meetings.
Jesse Wagstaff doesn't set screens on players who are out injured, how evil of him!

Despite an ageing roster and a hiccup late in the pre-season when former Boomers guard Hugh Greenwood opted to leave an international sport for one which has no resonance outside of this country, the Cats are still genuine contenders.
Hugh Greenwood likes a different sport than I do, how evil of him!

"Stupid" doesn't even begin to describe it.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
00:13 11 Nov 15

Reply #563284

re: How people see the Wildcats

You just have to laugh!


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Luuuc
Two years ago
00:38 11 Nov 15

Reply #563290

re: How people see the Wildcats

I saw that article this morning. I thought it was pretty embarrassing stuff so I didn't even bother linking it here.
I'm all for opposition fans serving it up to the Cats and their fans when it's warranted, and I'm the first to admit that it is regularly warranted, but that effort would have been punching above its weight just to be a decent blog entry IMO.


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proud
Two years ago
07:14 11 Nov 15

Reply #563297

re: How people see the Wildcats

Let's call it as we see it, I hate seeing Redhage flop as much as anybody and think Wagstaff would be a much better player if his mindset was more like Vlahov in he doesn't wanna show weakness to the opposition... But that isn't why Wildcats win and why fans go the their games. As fans we want to see our team play hard and play smart, if they do that's then it's all good.

Wildcats win games because they rebound amazingly well and take care of the ball above average too, if you beat Perth on the boards and force them into turning the ball over then their poor shooting will show them to be an average team.

Referees have a lot to answer for and its almost to the point of good man management to rest your stars in the first quarter and bring them on after the refs have stopped calling the fouls that could ruin the game for a team... For proof of this just look at the Sydney vs Adelaide game and how much Khazzouh not being there for the last 5 minutes of the game meant to the result...
But none of that has anything to do with dirty players does it


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mystro
Two years ago
07:16 11 Nov 15

Reply #563298

re: How people see the Wildcats

The only Perth player I consider to be a bit dirty is Redhage.
He used to be real bad at poking his elbows out when setting screens on smaller guards.
He either doesn't do it as often or a don't notice it as much with Ced Jackson being taller and more agile than CJ Bruton.
He just flops and exaggerates contact these days which is what most of the leagues best players are doing so no big deal.

I don't think a lot of Greg Hire as a player, nothing he's done I just don't rate/like him.

Wagstaff, Knight, Jervis and Damo are all great players whom I'd be stoked if they played for NZ.


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PeterJohn
Two years ago
10:20 11 Nov 15

Reply #563322

re: How people see the Wildcats

"Wildcats win games because they rebound amazingly well and take care of the ball above average too, if you beat Perth on the boards and force them into turning the ball over then their poor shooting will show them to be an average team."

I think that's a pretty good summary and one with which I think NZ Breakers would agree.

Overall, they've been no dirtier and rougher than other NBL teams in past seasons, except for Wollongong. I haven't seen the latter as Illawarra, this season.


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Wildcats views
Two years ago
14:07 11 Nov 15

Reply #563355

re: How people see the Wildcats

The author also thought Beal was having another great season - Credibility completely gone


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