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Isaac
Two years ago

#38537

Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

First of five games this round in the NBL. Sydney's only game for the round, while Illawarra host them then the Crocs.

Childress supposedly back, Martin still out and Demos out too. Markovic is game-by-game and Brandt has a fitness test.

Hawks will be very keen to make it a 2-0 round.

Your tip?

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Matthew
Two years ago
08:48 25 Nov 15

Reply #566437

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Hawks by lots.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
09:07 25 Nov 15

Reply #566439

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Hawks lose this they're in serious trouble I think.


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AngusH
Two years ago
09:09 25 Nov 15

Reply #566441

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Childress is back, but Hawks are bound to be fired up after some tough losses.

But hey, I can't watch the game because I'm playing tonight, so no doubt Kings will take it by 15 and Childress will post a quadruple double.


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
09:20 25 Nov 15

Reply #566443

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

This is harder to pick than a broken nose.

You would think Hawks would be all over this one like flouro work gear on a Wildcats fan in the Pilbara. Kings stumbling along all season going from one loss to another with as much hope as a boilermaker who left Holden's and has gone to ASC.

The Hawks were average against the Sixers and lacked passion.

The Kings have an opportunity to make things interesting with a win, but desperately need people to step up. The only King really putting in is Prince Jason. Mind you, there's an argument that if they had a better coach.... Oh, BTW, to the Sydney Asst Coach, Devo rang, they want their glasses back.

Talent wise, the Hawks are the Brainiacs sitting at the NBL Trivia table. I understand the Kings will welcome back "Sideshow Bob" tonight and this is the thing that will make it interesting. I think the Kings might be pretty hungry tonight. Although they are bottom of the table, there's not much in the table and a win over those pesky boys from Illawarra might be a real confidence booster.

Last time they met, Hawks won by 14 and Oscar bagged 24. I reckon this one will be a lot closer and while the Hawks should get up, I'ld suggest a few lazy dollars on the Kings to steal an upset late in the game if things go their way.


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Wookiee
Two years ago
09:30 25 Nov 15

Reply #566444

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Did Brandt get a knock last game? At least hill might get a bit of a run if he's limited minutes, and maybe we'll grab some rebounds...

sighs...

I'm very nervous about this... Chill coming back could go either way... if he plays like usual, the team should get a boost, but I just have a bad feeling that after his injury and then the suspension he might come out with a point to prove tot he detriment of the team... I'm really hoping not though, as like Jules said in yesterdays SMH article, Harrington was good, but it still threw out their whack a bit to accommodate him... Chill coming back is not just I think a better player when fully fit but a better fit, as we were really relying heavily on Prewster at the 3 and while he did a commendable job, it was a bit much for him to step into his first season...

The Khazzouh/Ogilvy match up will be key, Jules really needs to get a fire lit under him and really be a focus, the couple of games with him and Chill it seemed like they had a really good chemistry, which will be needed, but perimeter defence, with Lisch, Penney, Forman (and the rest of the team that can nail it from outside) will be the big weakness they need to focus on...

I really want to say that my guys will step it up a gear and get the win, but the Hawks always step up for games like this and at home, the first game of the double, and will have had their proper coach on them all week, I can't see them dropping this at home...


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Kobe24
Two years ago
10:04 25 Nov 15

Reply #566447

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

If Hawks are legit they imply need to win this game and make a statement at the same time. They have been a little soft for my liking and simply need to finds ways to use all their weapons to their advantage. They have that many dman shooters, if one or 2 is off then go to the third. The Kings god love them try hard and give glimpses but really at this stage are making up the numbers. If Hawks want to get some respect, they have to win.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:48 25 Nov 15

Reply #566449

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Judging by what Oscar Forman had to say re a brutal video session etc (http://www.nbl.com.au/featured-news/r8-preview-illawarra-v-sydney/) you'd think the Hawks will get this at home, maybe only a Childress masterclass can stop them?


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KingJames
Two years ago
11:15 25 Nov 15

Reply #566451

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I thought Childress was suspended? or is it a case that the games just gone counted towards his suspended games?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:32 25 Nov 15

Reply #566454

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

@KingJames or is it a case of you asking questions you already know the answers to?


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
11:58 25 Nov 15

Reply #566456

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

His suspension basically amounted to him not being allowed to sit on the bench while he was injured.


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KingJames
Two years ago
12:00 25 Nov 15

Reply #566457

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I didn't know the answer to it hence why I asked but just read it was a suspended suspension.

A roughy multi bet could be
Josh Childress Most points
Melbourne United Win
NZ win
= $18

Childress will need to beat Lisch, Penney and Thornton. Might be unlikely in his first game back is the only problem.
United will be looking for revenge against Crocs
NZ are in good form but always tough to beat Perth in Perth.

A long shot but a possibility.


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36ersNayshun
Two years ago
13:25 25 Nov 15

Reply #566470

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Childress to sprain and earlobe in second quarter, Hawks run over Kings to win by 8.


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Matthew
Two years ago
13:48 25 Nov 15

Reply #566475

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Speaking of Childress, does anyone know if his contract is longer than just this season? Hes now had 2 seasons affected by injury. Is he in a frame of mind to think 'All this injury isnt worth it anymore?'


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:23 25 Nov 15

Reply #566482

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I would say he is very pro playing. Loves the game and not exactly career ending injuries bad luck type stuff.


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Indominous-Rex
Two years ago
17:00 25 Nov 15

Reply #566527

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

@Matt He's signed on for at least another year, from what I know.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:14 25 Nov 15

Reply #566535

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

The battle of the of the two bigs will decide this, got feeling jules in for a big one and childress set to go. Kings by 8.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
19:32 25 Nov 15

Reply #566543

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Hard game to watch at the moment. Stoppage every offensive possession basically.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
19:37 25 Nov 15

Reply #566545

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Haha. Awkward in game interview when Matt Campbell kept talking after it ended. Those interviews are gold to watch just to see what muck ups happen.

Geez, how do SYD leave Penney that wide open!


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
19:47 25 Nov 15

Reply #566549

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Its so funny watching many of these players fail at the fundamentals of basketball


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:53 25 Nov 15

Reply #566550

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Haters. That was a good half of Basketball. Close lead changes and stars making shots. Modern Family is on if you really dont like it.


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
19:56 25 Nov 15

Reply #566551

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Kazzouh is one of the most overrated players i have ever seen...does so many dumb things on the court.

I also find it hilarious how the Hawks are so competitive and strong at home, yet absolutely trash on the road..


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
19:56 25 Nov 15

Reply #566552

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Haters? LOL...watching the Kings at times trying to advance the ball over half way is like pulling teeth.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:05 25 Nov 15

Reply #566554

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Oh no the 'LOL' has been unleashed...


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:15 25 Nov 15

Reply #566556

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

LOL, the fan poured his beer on Thornton HAHAHAHA


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:27 25 Nov 15

Reply #566559

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

That fan reminds me of what Marcus Camby would look like for some reason.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
20:29 25 Nov 15

Reply #566560

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

That wouldn't be me.

A) I don't drink alcohol

B) I'm a Celtics man.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:31 25 Nov 15

Reply #566561

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Someone poured a beer on Thornton... yikes. Stay classy, Wollongong.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:33 25 Nov 15

Reply #566562

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Dickhead ejected and should be banned for drinking Light.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:33 25 Nov 15

Reply #566563

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Should be banned from attending games.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:34 25 Nov 15

Reply #566565

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Because that guy is a true indicator of the people of the Gong!


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:37 25 Nov 15

Reply #566566

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I was sitting at the Gong with the family of a former Kings player (playing for Canberra at the time) cheering for the visiting team, when a Gong fan threw a half-full coke bottle at the player's mother. So not all that surprising.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:39 25 Nov 15

Reply #566567

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I missed the first 3 Qs when the Kings seemed to have played OK, so ill take the blame for this one, Kings fans.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:43 25 Nov 15

Reply #566569

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Was light beer so neither does the poor culprit!


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Blowout Troll
Two years ago
20:45 25 Nov 15

Reply #566570

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

This Hawks team is sooo funny...So competitive and good at home, yet when they go on the road, they are pure horse sh#t...

Perth absolutely FLOGGED this team as did Adelaide..

That all this POS team does, relies and dies by the 3.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:46 25 Nov 15

Reply #566572

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Nice 3 Tommy, nearly makes up for running away from AJ's dunk.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:52 25 Nov 15

Reply #566573

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

The Sydney Kings don't win cause they take hero shots and their coach lets them get away with it. Run a play and Khazzouh or Chldress a shot or go inside out. F**K Me!!


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:53 25 Nov 15

Reply #566574

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Meh. Game.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:56 25 Nov 15

Reply #566575

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I don't know what the Kings intended to get out of that inbound, but man... into Khazzouh in traffic inside the arc?


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MACDUB
Two years ago
20:56 25 Nov 15

Reply #566576

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Kings are so frustrating to watch. Seriously, they just implode with brain fades. Carter bad shot selection and just got burnt by Lisch in the most important defensive sequence of the game..don't know how you let Lisch go left. Cardinal sin.

Once again, a lack of a controlling PG/floor general to take over and get things back on track. When it goes rudderless, it seems as though every King is happy to just go along with it.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:59 25 Nov 15

Reply #566577

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

MACDUB, I think that Markovic was meant to be that guy. Obviously that hasn't exactly gone to plan..........


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:03 25 Nov 15

Reply #566578

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Had Hawks -3.5 into United so Im happy so far.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
21:03 25 Nov 15

Reply #566579

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
21:05 25 Nov 15

Reply #566580

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Sydney played a lot better tonight than they have been. If Childress was healthy then they'd be up the ladder - the team is built around him as you saw tonight he played well considering it's his first game back. Khazzouh got outplayed big time tonight.


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AngusH
Two years ago
21:08 25 Nov 15

Reply #566581

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Kings have flat out gone away from Khazzouh how they were using him to start the year. Far too many stretches where he just doesn't touch the ball. I'd like to see us use Chill how we used Harrington in that one half against the Sixers - the high/low.


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koberulz
Two years ago
21:19 25 Nov 15

Reply #566591

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Why would you not foul, or even trap, down three without the ball and a five-second differential?


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Kobe24
Two years ago
21:23 25 Nov 15

Reply #566595

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

With you Koberulz, that was odd, shouldve gone the foul game in that scenario.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:13 25 Nov 15

Reply #566611

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

What the fuck was Father Xmas doing with his beer?


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Kobe24
Two years ago
22:23 25 Nov 15

Reply #566613

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Pouring a lil liqueur out for a homie...


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
22:26 25 Nov 15

Reply #566615

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Looked like his Missus (?) wasn't too impressed either.

I enjoyed seeing Childress back, just missing some game fitness I think, some tough layups he missed that he normally makes (and kept falling over).


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Kobe24
Two years ago
22:30 25 Nov 15

Reply #566616

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Childress will be better for the run, he didn't seem to have the same lift as usual. Im sure he will be pretty tired tonight!


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Hogwash 77
Two years ago
22:56 25 Nov 15

Reply #566620

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

That old guy was Tyson Demos' uncle. Or so he jokes on twitter


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Jumpshot
Two years ago
23:08 25 Nov 15

Reply #566621

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Thorton should have opened his mouth and enjoyed the beer.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
23:27 25 Nov 15

Reply #566622

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I think Thornton showed amazing restraint, credit to him.

I'd like to have seen that fellow try that on Ron Artest.

#MaliceinthePalace2.0


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Anonymous
Two years ago
07:36 26 Nov 15

Reply #566638

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Thornton looked a little hot and sweaty. I said bet you wouldn't mind a beer and he appeared speechless but I thought I detected a nod. Thinking his reluctance was shyness perhaps not expecting such hospitality or maybe he was not familiar with the brand I was drinking I perhaps erred in over sharing at that point. What was all the fuss. BTW Hoops is a great site and I love getting on here after a few beers, cheers.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
08:14 26 Nov 15

Reply #566643

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Absolutely ridiculous that we live in a day and age where people complain about getting free alcohol! Thornton looked thirsty, he just helped him out. Straya Mate. Only downside was that it was lite beer ;)

Forget Malace in the Palace. This is Beer Spit in the Sand Pit!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:27 26 Nov 15

Reply #566644

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Thornton was so calm. I would have thrown a ball in the face of the old guy or done something else dumb and got suspended.


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Matthew
Two years ago
09:15 26 Nov 15

Reply #566649

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I was hoping Thornton might have grabbed the beard and yanked hard...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:44 26 Nov 15

Reply #566653

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Haha nice try anon but as if a dumb bogan like that would even know how to use a computer


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
09:50 26 Nov 15

Reply #566655

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

That's the funniest thing I've seen for a while. His wife looked mega pissed off

I reckon he could be Father Christmas - comes once a year.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
10:38 26 Nov 15

Reply #566661

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

What will happen first? Sydney win another game or the bloke gets out of the dog house. ;)


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LV
Two years ago
10:58 26 Nov 15

Reply #566665

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

3 things
1. Hilarious work frombearded bloke
2. What is Markovics "illness" ?
3. Why didn't they pressure the ball on the last play? They just let Lisch whittle down the clock with xero pressure... I understand not fouling, but why the heck Cadee stood a metre off Lisch and let him waste from about 25 secs to 10 or so when they were down 3...? Are they trying to win here or what??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
11:19 26 Nov 15

Reply #566667

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I applaud Thornton's restraint, I would've broken that mans jaw.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
12:50 26 Nov 15

Reply #566675

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

LV, i think Carter was guarding Lisch on that last play wasn't he?

In any event, I agree they handled that horribly. What really frustrated me was that the defender got beat on Lisch's left hand..really costly mistake.

You're usually always taught in those circumstances to play for the steal and then if you can get that great. If not, you can live with the foul.

Sydney, as you said, did neither.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:54 26 Nov 15

Reply #566678

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Kings went with old guys in Markovic and Carter.

They knew about Markovic's "issues" which haven't been made public, yet still chose to sign him.

I wonder how their record would look or if their play would have improved if they went with the likes of Weeks and Bartlett instead (who were available after the season started).


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Anonymous
Two years ago
13:22 26 Nov 15

Reply #566683

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Markovic will never play another minute for the Sydney Kings. Done deal.


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KingJames
Two years ago
13:24 26 Nov 15

Reply #566684

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

"I wonder how their record would look or if their play would have improved if they went with the likes of Weeks and Bartlett instead (who were available after the season started)."

It is easy to pick players in hindsight. All teams would have picked Markovic and Carter over Bartlett and Weeks


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Isaac
Two years ago
13:57 26 Nov 15

Reply #566687

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

LV, non-physical illness. Details not really relevant.


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koberulz
Two years ago
14:00 26 Nov 15

Reply #566688

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

It is easy to pick players in hindsight. All teams would have picked Markovic and Carter over Bartlett and Weeks
Bartlett, yes. But several Kings fans were saying they should sign Weeks before Carter was signed.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:02 26 Nov 15

Reply #566689

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Markovic has contributed more in his random tweets during their games when he is not even sitting on the bench and no where to be found than when he steps on the court.

And the Kings have yet to inform the basketball public and their fans why he isn't playing. If he can tweet then he sure in hell should be in a playing uniform.

The kings organisation has really hit rock bottom just like the teams position on the ladder!!


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Kobe24
Two years ago
14:06 26 Nov 15

Reply #566692

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Anon its a very complicated thing, as a fan all you really need to know is he isnt fit to play. So he isnt playing. Simple as that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:11 26 Nov 15

Reply #566694

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Read between the lines Anon. If it's not physical and everyone is tip toeing around it it's obviously a mental health issue.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
14:12 26 Nov 15

Reply #566695

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

"If he can tweet then he sure in hell should be in a playing uniform. "

Fantastic medical opinion!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:31 26 Nov 15

Reply #566699

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

@KingJames no other team was signing Markovic, a free agent leaving the worst team in the league who missed time with health issues last season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:25 26 Nov 15

Reply #566712

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Pretty disgusting behaviour by Father Christmas...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:08 26 Nov 15

Reply #566762

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

The Hawks can't let Weeks go anywhere.

If he gets cut, at least 4 teams try to sign him. If they cut Demos, Ellis or White they don't get signed.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
19:15 26 Nov 15

Reply #566763

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

I'd cut White if you have to cut someone.


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Jick
Two years ago
19:20 26 Nov 15

Reply #566765

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

On putely basketball grounds, Markovic should not have been signed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:58 26 Nov 15

Reply #566804

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Jick

On purely basketball grounds, Markovic should not have been signed.

I agree totally and put the blame squarely on the kings suppose it basketball guru Tim Hudson.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
05:49 27 Nov 15

Reply #566867

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Markovic was benched last season by the last placed team for a variety of reasons.

He's also the same guy that walked out on the West Sydney Razorbacks just before the season started to go to Europe a few years back.

He's got all kinds of issues that the rest of the league is well aware of.

And yet Tim Hudson, who is so way out of his depth it isn't funny, put in his position by a clueless ownership group, thought it was a great idea to sign this guy as the starting point guard?

It's a complete and utter waste of a roster spot and it's doubtful he'll ever play for the Kings again.

Another example of a pathetic organisation making stupid decisions. No wonder this team has been a walking mediocrity for the past five years.


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LV
Two years ago
09:11 27 Nov 15

Reply #566877

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Demos and White bring similar things to the table. I'd keep Demos and sign Weeks if that is possible.

Can they sign Weeks as a DP once his term as "injury replacement" is up? Is he eligible, age wise, to be DP?

Last yr Patton was officially a DP for United but in reality he took Mcmillans minutes. If Hawks can organise a similar situation to keep Weeks in the rotation, they should


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Wookiee
Two years ago
10:36 27 Nov 15

Reply #566887

re: Hawks vs Kings, Nov 25

Weeks is too old to be a DP


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