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Isaac
Two years ago

#38583

Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Another match up between the form teams, this time in New Zealand.

Centrebet has the Breakers as solid $1.45 favourites.

Your tip?

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MACDUB
Two years ago
08:24 2 Dec 15

Reply #567851

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Will be close.

Pace/tempo of the game is critical to the result IMO.

Breakers will be trying to speed the game up. I would think the Wildcats would be trying to do the opposite considering how effective they are in that situation.

Wouldn't be surprised to see OT.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
08:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #567853

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers at home but only just


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
08:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #567854

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I don't think the Cats have any fears about the pace of the game. Against the Hawks and Sixers, both teams tried to run them off the court but the Cats matched it and won.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:04 2 Dec 15

Reply #567855

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Is Webster playing?


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Another Anon
Two years ago
10:34 2 Dec 15

Reply #567868

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers just, wouldn't be surprised if we see OT.


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Anoniguy
Two years ago
12:12 2 Dec 15

Reply #567884

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

To all those people banging on about Greg Hire shooting at the last second all the time.. every point counts.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/30249377/crunch-time-as-cats-chase-split/


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mystro
Two years ago
12:13 2 Dec 15

Reply #567885

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Yes Corey Webster is playing and Tai Wesley may play, they'll make the call later today after the shoot around depending on how his blood tests came back last night.

NZ should get up at home for this one but will need to play a ton better than they did in Perth, especially at the freethrow line.

I also won't be surprised if NZ need overtime to get the W.

If NZ win by more than 1 point they win the season series against Perth which will be big come the business end of the season.


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mystro
Two years ago
12:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #567886

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

"To all those people banging on about Greg Hire shooting at the last second all the time.. every point counts.

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/30249377/crunch-time-as-cats-chase-split/"

people give Perth shit about this because the Wildcats kicked off in the media when someone else did it to them in garbage time last season from memory.


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Anoniguy
Two years ago
12:23 2 Dec 15

Reply #567889

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Don't remember hearing about that one, but that would be poor form considering the bust up they had with Adelaide in early 2014 when Gary Ervin called out Hire..

Either way, would love the Cats to win tonight with a last second three by Hire. ;)


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Train
Two years ago
12:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #567890

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

"people give Perth shit about this because the Wildcats kicked off in the media when someone else did it to them in garbage time last season from memory"

I dont recall Perth media ever kicking up about this happening to Perth. It was Ervin/36ers going nuts about it a couple of seasons ago though when Hire did the same thing to the 36ers.


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mystro
Two years ago
13:11 2 Dec 15

Reply #567903

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

"I dont recall Perth media ever kicking up about this happening to Perth. It was Ervin/36ers going nuts about it a couple of seasons ago though when Hire did the same thing to the 36ers."

It wasn't the Perth Media, someone kicked off to the media in regards to this and my anti-perth memory instantly attributed this to a Wildcats player.
I thought it was Greg Hire who kicked off at Ervin for putting up a shot, my memory isn't that flash so apologies if I was full of plaque.


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
13:29 2 Dec 15

Reply #567908

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I think Breakers are 6-0 at home. A win by the Cats would be massive and send a shot across the bow of the SS Breakers.

This will be a great game and with plenty to play for. The Cats should win the rebounding game, so I'm expecting two different styles of play.

Corey Webster in MVP form is scoring nearly a point per minute (0.85) at home. Beal is scoring 0.45 points per minute on the road, but Prather is killing it at 0.67 points per minute.

Therein lies the Breakers weakness. All the other Breakers are scoring at an average 0.366 points per minute. If the Cats can negate Webster, then they have a chance of bagging this bad boy. Surely 5 flops should create 5 charging fouls on Webster.

The reffing in NZ is just about Street Ball standard, so fouling out players is rare. I'm sticking with the Breakers to play a fast flowing game with only the worst argey bargey calls made. Breakers by 2.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
13:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #567911

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers to win big. I reckon they will be so pissed with how they played in Perth, and if they are legit about winning it all, they will want to counter real quick. Perfect chance it today!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
14:06 2 Dec 15

Reply #567917

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I loved that match preview where Jack Toft mentioned the Wildcats flopping. Classic!!


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koberulz
Two years ago
14:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #567928

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

It wasn't the Perth Media, someone kicked off to the media in regards to this and my anti-perth memory instantly attributed this to a Wildcats player.
I thought it was Greg Hire who kicked off at Ervin for putting up a shot, my memory isn't that flash so apologies if I was full of plaque.

This happened after Ervin got upset with Hire for putting up a late three against Adelaide in 2014:



Afterwards, Hire pointed out that Ervin had done exactly the same thing earlier in the year.


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Matthew
Two years ago
14:56 2 Dec 15

Reply #567931

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I wish this thing would just die already .If you have the shot attempt, take the shot. If you wanna burn time , then burn time till the game is over. Dont feel forced to adhere to some BS Basketball etiquette created Furphy where people dont shoot on /near siren.

You are plaing a professional sport here.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:00 2 Dec 15

Reply #567932

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Why is this shit still bought up.
Etiquette it's professional sport FFS.
I believe Perth thrashed Adelaide in the grand final that year :)


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Train
Two years ago
15:34 2 Dec 15

Reply #567940

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

This game has a bit of a playoff feel to it.

So much more to this game then just a win or lose. The winner of this game could very much decide 1st and 2nd position at the conclusion of the season or which of these 2 teams gets home court advantage over each other come finals time.

With the rematch only 5 days apart it will be interesting to see how the teams adjust to their respective deficiencies from last Fridays game.

I'm tipping NZ on this one, but if Perth can get hot from outside it could easily swing Perths way.


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Anoniguy
Two years ago
15:59 2 Dec 15

Reply #567946

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Well, we bring it up because tonight's game could have a lot deciding on it from a points differential view if the series is tied.. and using to also to tell ppl to stop whinging about ppl like Hire shooting in garbage time.

If the three Hire put up at the siren last week went in, and the Breakers win by 2 or 3, Perth would still win the season series.

Yes, they did thrash the 36ers in the final. It's like Lisch awaking the Ahlpa-Beal. Just don't p off the cats, they'll come back and bite.


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ROFLcopter
Two years ago
16:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #567948

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Tipping the Breakers to win - easily.

Still don't rate Perth. Tonight could change me. 1hr till tip off :)


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
16:20 2 Dec 15

Reply #567953

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Half a game off top spot, injuries all season, form team of the comp but you don't rate them? Wow.


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Anoniguy
Two years ago
16:23 2 Dec 15

Reply #567955

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Apparently, first choice starting five have only played 35 seconds on court together this season.


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Jack Toft
Two years ago
16:40 2 Dec 15

Reply #567957

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Supernintendo Chalmers, I get the hook, I put a nice piece of floppy meat on the hook, but not one pussycat.......


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
16:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #567958

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I think the meat is getting stale ;-)


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:06 2 Dec 15

Reply #567960

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

How does the tie-breaker work if NZ wins this by 1 point?
I assume Cats get it somehow? Commentators mentioning NZ needs to win by 2+


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TimberBall
Two years ago
17:12 2 Dec 15

Reply #567961

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Why are NZ allowed to have a band play during FTs????


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:18 2 Dec 15

Reply #567963

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

these muppet refs are handing the breakers the game


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #567964

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

blatant one sided officiating


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #567966

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Is the game on radio in Perth?


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #567967

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Very strange call to count the cats 3 after the foul


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #567968

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

unbeliveble


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Matthew
Two years ago
17:30 2 Dec 15

Reply #567969

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

wow.. with all the Anonymous posts I thought it would be us down, but NZ is down. Wow.

Hope we can get the win.


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LV
Two years ago
17:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #567970

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

In the Cats 4 losses this season, Beal has averaged...

7.8ppg
3.3apg
2.3 to pg

While shooting at 21.3% from the field.



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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #567971

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

So the game isn't on radio anywhere?


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Train
Two years ago
17:32 2 Dec 15

Reply #567972

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Beal 12pts on 5/7fg, 3 Assists and 3 steals in the first 1/4....WOW


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:33 2 Dec 15

Reply #567973

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Prather has really improved his 3 ball. I honestly didn't think he would.

Kudos


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Anoniguy
Two years ago
17:33 2 Dec 15

Reply #567974

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Beal came to play.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #567975

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

It's raining threes


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Luuuc
Two years ago
17:37 2 Dec 15

Reply #567976

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Threes are dropping yet we're only up 3. That's a concern


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Matthew
Two years ago
17:41 2 Dec 15

Reply #567977

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Try 97.3 sport fm (for Perth people). Sometimes they play the games.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:43 2 Dec 15

Reply #567978

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

shootout


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TimberBall
Two years ago
17:43 2 Dec 15

Reply #567979

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Refs call fouls on Jawai for just standing there. What a joke


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #567980

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Sport FM is 91.3 Matthew but they're not broadcasting it :(

And can't find any links online


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #567981

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Hire is terrible he brings nothing


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TimberBall
Two years ago
17:51 2 Dec 15

Reply #567983

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

He brings 0 fouls...which is a bonus right now


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:53 2 Dec 15

Reply #567984

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Why is so hard for a "pro team" to get a F##KING REBOUND?


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TimberBall
Two years ago
17:54 2 Dec 15

Reply #567985

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

This is a joke!!!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:55 2 Dec 15

Reply #567986

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Home town officiating or what?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:55 2 Dec 15

Reply #567987

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Kinda glad I'm not watching now

Perth fans getting irate ITT


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:56 2 Dec 15

Reply #567988

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

LOL, its so funny watching many of these players FAIL at the basic fundamentals of basketball....

No wonder no one from the NBA can make the NBL....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #567989

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

LOL, "pro basketball" players cant do a simple box out...


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anonymous
Two years ago
17:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #567990

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

nice foul count split, look like jervis will be enjoying the bench for much of the 2nd hlaf


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Steve
Two years ago
17:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #567991

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Charles Jackson is the new Redhage. King flopalot


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Perth Wilburs
Two years ago
17:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #567992

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Referee must have money on NZ. No way that was two fouls on Jervis.


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Train
Two years ago
17:59 2 Dec 15

Reply #567993

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Ugly quarter for Perth :0


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Perth Wilburs
Two years ago
17:59 2 Dec 15

Reply #567994

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Bald headed gimp is what that referee is. No freaking idea how to ref. Go back to the junior domestic comp you idiot.


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Dave W
Two years ago
18:00 2 Dec 15

Reply #567995

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers fan but not happy with Charles Jackson's flop against Jervis.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:00 2 Dec 15

Reply #567996

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

17 fouls to 7 HAHAHAH..


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Luuuc
Two years ago
18:00 2 Dec 15

Reply #567997

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I'm not saying that 7 PF's to 16 is proof of anything, but it certainly matches up with the eye test of this game so far.


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Perth Wilburs
Two years ago
18:06 2 Dec 15

Reply #567999

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Wildcats have to play against 8 while they have 5 on the court themselves. That's a hard ball game to win.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:07 2 Dec 15

Reply #568000

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

The same fouls they are calling on perth are let go for the breakers. It is a joke


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:11 2 Dec 15

Reply #568001

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Hope Breakers can win this one... looking good after that first quarter


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Luuuc
Two years ago
18:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #568002

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Not much going right for the cats


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:17 2 Dec 15

Reply #568004

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

The bigs looked woeful chance after chance on that one possession before the Breakers came up and popped the 3. Those hurt.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:22 2 Dec 15

Reply #568005

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Perth fans get off the refs, so sad. Breakers are the better team.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #568006

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Yeah, clearly the better team when the Breakers fortunes have gone hand in hand with the refereeing of the game.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:29 2 Dec 15

Reply #568007

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

If perth could hit a shot they would be infront


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:30 2 Dec 15

Reply #568008

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers the better team? you gotta be kidding


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Train
Two years ago
18:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #568009

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

What i need right now is for Homicide Williams to pop up on the commentary. I really need someone to point out that the next few minutes of this game are crucial.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #568010

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

IF....

The ref thing is so weak a argument for any fan base to use these days.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:32 2 Dec 15

Reply #568011

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Hell yeah the Breakers are better. Id rather take Perth in a playoff series than NZ any day.


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Perth Wilburs
Two years ago
18:32 2 Dec 15

Reply #568012

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Wildcats coming back when the referees decide to call a true game. That second quarter stuff was a disgrace by the refs.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:34 2 Dec 15

Reply #568014

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Refs fault Redhage missed the 3 and the Jackson got a cheap one at the other end too i guess. Poor blaming the refs.


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Dave W
Two years ago
18:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #568016

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers started to play well again. Musst be the refs. Couldn't possibly be the players.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:37 2 Dec 15

Reply #568017

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

The refereeing in this league is soooo funny...what an embarrassment to the sport.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:38 2 Dec 15

Reply #568018

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

If you don't understand how one-sided reffing that sees three of your players sitting due to foul trouble in the first half impacts your teams game, don't bother commenting.


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TimberBall
Two years ago
18:38 2 Dec 15

Reply #568019

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Don't you have some sheep to screw Dave?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:39 2 Dec 15

Reply #568020

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Dave W I'm with you, Perth fans are so predictable. They aren't playing very well simple as that.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:40 2 Dec 15

Reply #568021

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Chalmers if you dont like people not agreeing then your biased opinion, then dont comment back.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
18:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568022

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

The opposite of your retardation isn't me being biased.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #568023

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Chalmers Webster just hit a massive 3, refs fault. Retard.


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Dave W
Two years ago
18:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #568024

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Websters hit two 3s. Bloody refs


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #568025

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

And another such poor riffing BANG!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #568026

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Abercrombie swell, thats just bad biased reffing surely.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:47 2 Dec 15

Reply #568027

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Series is tied at 2-2 after this game both teams with 2 wins at home. Both getting all the calls at home especially the Breakers


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:48 2 Dec 15

Reply #568028

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

This game changed in that latter bit of the 2nd qtr when the refs decided to turn into cheer leaders...

The refereeing in this league is the worst is awful...No wonder this league almost dies every year....


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:48 2 Dec 15

Reply #568029

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Corey Webster must be in the NBA next year


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:51 2 Dec 15

Reply #568030

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Such sore losers. The refs didn't lose this game, not being able to put up 80 on the road did.


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TimberBall
Two years ago
18:52 2 Dec 15

Reply #568031

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

A true basketball fan, no matter who they follow, could say that game was well reffed


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:54 2 Dec 15

Reply #568032

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Its so funny how NZ are so good at home, yet absolutely TRASH on the road.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:54 2 Dec 15

Reply #568033

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

LOL, Webster NBA next year? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:55 2 Dec 15

Reply #568034

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

So NZ takes the tie breaker then? (pun intended)


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:55 2 Dec 15

Reply #568035

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Blow out troll wins another round. But somehow I think his team lost. HAHAHA LOLOLOLOL


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
18:56 2 Dec 15

Reply #568037

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers are 1 - 6 this year on the road - went 0 - 3 without Webster.


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Train
Two years ago
18:56 2 Dec 15

Reply #568038

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Perth outclassed there in the end. They are a bit a Jekyl and Hyde team :/


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Anonymous
Two years ago
18:59 2 Dec 15

Reply #568039

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Breakers are absolutely JUNK on the road...maybe because the refs cant turn into cheer leaders for them.


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Tyrell
Two years ago
19:00 2 Dec 15

Reply #568040

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

How are NZ trash on the road? 3 of their 5 losses were by 1, 3 and 6 (the other two obviously not good losses!!)

Seriously!!


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LV
Two years ago
19:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #568042

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

NZ has been unlucky on the road, being undermanned and going down to good opponents in very close games

Only concern for NZ was falling apart a bit offensively when Cedric was in foul trouble in the 3rd. Otherwise a strong effort and they've cemented themselves as the clear favourite over these past 2 games imo.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #568043

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Before the NZB @ PER game last friday, I was of the opinion that if New Zealand stay fit, they would lose two more games for the season to finish 22-6, then be about a 70/30 chance of a 5th title.

I expected one of those two games to be that Friday night, and was right on that front. I'd kinda hoped that this might be the other one, since everybody loses at least one home game ... but unfortunately not to be.

Given we scraped in wins over them at Perth Arena, and just got utterly drilled over in New Zealand, probably going to have to revise that prediction. Still think New Zealand will lose another, but they'd have to be hot faves for the title now.

Webster and Cedric Jackson stay fit and they'll win it all.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #568044

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Anyone see what happened to Damon? Is there video?


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mystro
Two years ago
19:03 2 Dec 15

Reply #568045

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Perth were hard done by on a few calls there but welcome to what the rest of the league has put up with in Perth for years guys.

Efficient game from Abercrombie at both ends. Pledger and Jackson played great but I don't condone flopping. Jackson did well to draw attention to the first couple of hits he took and got some legit calls before he started acting like Bubbles. I like his game otherwise, he bought energy and made shots and blocked a few.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:06 2 Dec 15

Reply #568046

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

4/17 from deep for 3 quarters, then 4/5 in the 4th. Been looking at andrewbprice's spatial jam, and that's the story of the series. Breakers averaging about 25% in the first three quarters, then >50% in the last. Clutch little buggers.


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Dave W
Two years ago
19:07 2 Dec 15

Reply #568047

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

The Breakers do have to start winning on the road. Have managed to in their 4 championships in the last 5 years. The year they did poorly,(without Cedric) they got hung up by the refereeing. A bit much moaning and not enough adjusting.
They'll start winning on the road and will soon be back at full strength.
they may not win it all, but they will be thereabouts ass will Perth. They are better than they played in that game. Regardless of what you thought of the reffing, Perth were very ordinary after the first quarter.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:13 2 Dec 15

Reply #568049

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Well, we won the first and the third quarters (the latter after digging a nice big hole for ourselves to start with) but in the 2nd and 4th, completely lost the plot.

Second quarter, okay, that was probably the height of the interesting refereeing people have been mentioning above. But the fourth quarter, only 14pts, not good enough. 31pt in the first, 17, 16, 14 after that. Just not good enough. Sure, the Breakers would have rolled us with that hot shooting streak, but our inability to score ourselves during that streak is on us.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:14 2 Dec 15

Reply #568050

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Nathan people have been saying that os the direct reason for the Cats losing. Giving up 99 is probably the first place to look.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #568051

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Im not saying you are using that excuse, but other have, just insane. Wasn't even close, Breakers hit 4 straight 3's in the 4th.


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Anonymouse
Two years ago
19:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #568052

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Result was obvious at half time. Fouls 14 to 7.
Perth are fragile mentally, which is not surprising with their coach bleating at every call. Why is Jackson allowed to flop time and again when Vucona is warned early for less? Refs in most games seem to be really scared of the physical part of the game and the calls are so inconsistent. Jawai won't hang around this league if they don't let him play.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:20 2 Dec 15

Reply #568055

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Yes 6 point game and it was all over at the half. Does any Perth fan have something to say about the game that doesnt refer to putting the issue of losing on the refs. Im mean really!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
19:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #568059

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Just to be clear, no one said its the direct reason. But it definitely had impact.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #568060

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Read back over all the ramble, pretty clear what all the faithful was eluding too. And nice to see Chalmers that you couldn't add anything than correcting someone based on your opinion as per usual. Nothing to add about the game I take it.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
19:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #568063

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

You haven't added anything about the game either.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:28 2 Dec 15

Reply #568068

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

@Anon
"Im not saying you are using that excuse, but other have, just insane. Wasn't even close, Breakers hit 4 straight 3's in the 4th."

Ahh.. look, refereeing has its impact. Even Rhys Carter on twitter early in the game took note of three soft fouls being called on Wagstaff and said it was a momentum changing moment, and that was before Jervis got drilled similarly in that really bad last few minutes of the second quarter (which is probably where we "lost" the game).

And the team really does have a problem with letting those kinds of reversals get them down, which needs to be sorted out.

But in any sport, no ONE THING wins or loses a game. We really let ourselves down with the poor rebounding (especially during that second quarter, we got murdered) and the dry spells.

Breakers nailing four 3's in a row was definitely brutal, though. That sort of thing does happen, of course. We did that to the Hawks in the 4th quarter of our game against them, and we were on the receiving end of it this time.

We seem to frequently have these really great starts against NZ in NZ that go wildly pear-shaped, frustrating stuff.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:29 2 Dec 15

Reply #568070

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Sure I have, commented on how Perth couldn't contain the Breakers from deep and couldn't manage any offense of their own, 78 wont do it. They are missing a true shooter, Perth have some vulnerabilities which is nice for the rest of the league to see. Id take the Breakers in a 3 game series.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:30 2 Dec 15

Reply #568071

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

On the other hand, at least we didn't have a 9-31 quarter against the Crocs, like the Taipans just had. Holy crap.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
19:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #568072

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Anon, don't take credit for other anons posts. That's really ordinary.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #568073

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Nathan that was well said, and even team gets on the receiving end at times, but your ride it out. Crocs wow.


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Nathan of Perth
Two years ago
19:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #568075

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

We contained New Zealand from beyond the arc fine for most of the game. They just then nailed the last 4 in a row after shooting below 25% up till that point.

They made 8/22 3pt, we made 9/21 (which hides that we went 2/7 to end it). So I wouldn't say failing to contain them from beyond the arc was the problem.

That 44-31 rebound differential, and the 28/50 2pt vs 17/49 2pt differential was the real story.

Our big guys didn't perform to the standard that they ought.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:40 2 Dec 15

Reply #568079

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

You got nothing hey Chalmers. Ahh well neither did Perth tonight.

Yeah when the bigs are down they become a lot easier to maintain on offense, Knight and Jawai seemed out of sorts in spurts when they really needed to stand up and get the in and out flowing.


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Train
Two years ago
19:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568081

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Great analysis Nathan.

No secret that I'm a one eyed cats fan but you cant look at those stats and say the Ref's were the reason Perth lost. Its pretty dam clear looking at those stats where the game was won and lost.

The officiating this year in general has been below par but it doesn't favor any teams in particular.


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cats 4 life
Two years ago
19:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #568086

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

wtf! you can't compete when you get calls like that against you on the road! Jackson must be diving all around nz!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #568087

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

wow wildcat stunk that one up big time


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ROFLcopter
Two years ago
20:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #568096

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I said I didn't rate Perth.

CONFIRMED!!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:31 2 Dec 15

Reply #568098

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

They certainly have vulnerabilities they need to sort. Good to see SOME of their fan base brought down to earth anyways.


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FM
Two years ago
21:03 2 Dec 15

Reply #568112

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

I wonder how much Cats fans would complain when they start letting New Zealanders referee the games.

Unfortunately for them, they don't have home town refs. They fly in from Australia


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Matt
Two years ago
21:10 2 Dec 15

Reply #568114

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

regardless of the result the refs need to get on Charles Jackson.....falls to the floor constantly then runs off with a smug grin.

Not a good look for the league.

In addition Jawai is copping a raw deal week after week cause of his size....punters want to see him play...have to look after him a bit better.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:14 2 Dec 15

Reply #568115

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Not a good look for the league, start with Redhage the past 10 years and work your way back!


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cats 4 life
Two years ago
21:29 2 Dec 15

Reply #568116

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

At least redhadge doesn't take the piss when he flops!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:35 2 Dec 15

Reply #568117

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Th entire definition of flopping is taking the piss and tricking the refs into making a call. Moron.


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paul
Two years ago
22:08 2 Dec 15

Reply #568126

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Jawai initiates a lot of contact, I don't think he gets as hard a time as some people think. Tim Mills really had a bad night, the guy who fell for Patty Mills' flop of the century hasn't learned from that lesson!

NZ got the better of the reffing, no doubt, but they also got some howlers against them, were the aggressors drawing fouls and were definitely the better team. Jackson, Pledger and Vukona controlled the paint, Perth couldn't keep Cedric in front of them and Abercrombie and Webster were lethal.

The Wildcats have been incredible in fourth quarters this season, so it was strange to see them fall away like that, but NZ's defence did a good job of getting them out of their offence and then they cleaned the D glass very well. I'm sure Perth will learn plenty from that game.

Looking forward to the rematch in the finals and hope Damo's jaw is ok. Was quite telling the way Cedric just stopped as soon as he realised what had happened, shows the great level of respect he has for Damo.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:39 2 Dec 15

Reply #568131

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Stupid to even be out there yet playing! I mean he was hardly touched and had a freak out something bad had happend. Too soon, next time it could rebreak and cause longer term issues.


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koberulz
Two years ago
22:48 2 Dec 15

Reply #568133

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

"Hardly touched"? It dislodged a wire that was glued to his teeth.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
22:56 2 Dec 15

Reply #568134

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Jawai was allegedly racially abused by a member of the crowd. Just waiting for the league to investigate how this affects Melbourne's liveability ranking.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:19 2 Dec 15

Reply #568135

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Koberulz exactly my point, was hardly touched and look at the damage it caused. Next time Martin could be absorbing major contact and it could be a lot worse.


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RMQ
Two years ago
23:23 2 Dec 15

Reply #568136

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Flop party

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=5sip69SMpTw&feature=youtu.be

Not the reason the cats lost. But pretty terrible reffing to fall for it twice.


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Marcus Camby
Two years ago
00:02 3 Dec 15

Reply #568137

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

That flopping is disgraceful.


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Mystro
Two years ago
03:14 3 Dec 15

Reply #568143

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Any flopping is shit.


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mystro
Two years ago
07:09 3 Dec 15

Reply #568147

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Pretty pissed off that someone apparently yelled racist comments at Nathan Jawai whilst on the bench last night.
Hopefully if true the offender is pointed out and banned.

No need for that crap.


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KingJames
Two years ago
07:56 3 Dec 15

Reply #568150

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

RMQ you do realise Knight flopped in that same video? Yeah didn't think so.

I am fine with the first call. Jervis went into Jackson and it should have been a foul there but referees let it continue but when there was more contact even that it was minimal they called it.

Knights non call was a flop.

Jackson's second call was a flop.

Aylen loves to give flopping warnings (Even when sometimes they aren't), so a bit surprised he wasn't calling them. Either way with both Aylen AND Mayberry out there it was always going to be a poorly officiated game.


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paul
Two years ago
08:19 3 Dec 15

Reply #568152

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

An update here on the racism claims. The NBL refs coach who sits behind the visitors bench reportedly told the Breakers he heard no racist comments in the exchange between fans and Jawai.

Breakers also speaking to all members who sit in the vicinity, and awaiting formal complaint from Perth with more details.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/basketball/74685382/new-zealand-breakers-investigating-racial-abuse-claims-from-perth-wildcats


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
08:38 3 Dec 15

Reply #568157

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

My thoughts at the time were the same as when Eddie McGuire didn't like someone getting stuck in to Krakouer, so he decided the criticism was "borderline racist" which means nothing. I don't think anything will come from this.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Two years ago
09:06 3 Dec 15

Reply #568165

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Of course he realises Knight flopped. The point was, how do the refs fall for flopping/minimal contact on one end but not the other...let alone the fact they didn't appear to give Knight a warning.


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RMQ
Two years ago
09:06 3 Dec 15

Reply #568166

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Fans making racists remarks to players when there is players of the same colour on their own team makes absolutely no sense.

Racist people are idiots and the scum of our society.


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koberulz
Two years ago
14:46 3 Dec 15

Reply #568309

re: Breakers vs Wildcats, Dec 2

Of course he realises Knight flopped. The point was, how do the refs fall for flopping/minimal contact on one end but not the other...let alone the fact they didn't appear to give Knight a warning.
Knight did get a flop warning, you can hear the PA announcer mention it after the Jervis "foul".


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