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Isaac
Two years ago

#38584

Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Townsville have just sacked their MVP Brian Conklin, but beat Melbourne the last time they played without him. Schenscher is still out and they're coming off a 38-point thumping in Wollongong.

Cairns have lost their last two and will be keen to bring their record closer to .500 before Adelaide and Illawarra start to extend their gap.

Tips?

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Anonymous
Two years ago
07:17 2 Dec 15

Reply #567847

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I tip an empty stadium


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MACDUB
Two years ago
08:28 2 Dec 15

Reply #567852

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Tipping the Crocs to get this one.

It's like when a coach gets sacked, generally the week after the Players put in an inspired performance.

Think the same could happen here. Players will want to come out and "prove" that they are good enough to get the win without needing a Conklin.

Kay and Young will have their sights set on out-working. out-hustling the likes of Burston, Loughton and Worthington.


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snooch
Two years ago
10:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #567869

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Cairns by a lot. Too much to play for.


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
12:04 2 Dec 15

Reply #567882

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

"Players will want to come out and "prove" that they are good enough to get the win without needing a Conklin."

Except they already did that against Melbourne so they have nothing left to prove.


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mystro
Two years ago
12:17 2 Dec 15

Reply #567887

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

except for by firing last seasons MVP the Crocs management basically said no ones jobs are safe.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
12:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #567896

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

They only lost by 6 to the Taipans last time they met with Conklin.

And from memory paul's analysis/stats suggest they play better without Conklin.

Therefore there's a real possibility of a Crocs win.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
12:48 2 Dec 15

Reply #567897

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

With that being said, I wouldn't be surprised if they lost by 40 points.

Nothing would surprise me with this TVL team anymore ;)


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LV
Two years ago
13:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #567905

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Cairns are reeling at 4-7 and in danger of dropping off the pace in the race for 4th, after recent losses to the main contenders Illawarra and Adelaide.

I can't see Cairns losing this one.


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paul
Two years ago
13:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #567906

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

What MACDUB said, Crocs could win or get thrashed by plenty, you just don't know. Most games this year they've been very competitive though, and I'd imagine they'll be fired up for this one.

If the Taipans are for real they get this one though, a loss and they'll probably have to go 11-5 or something similar to make playoffs.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
13:39 2 Dec 15

Reply #567910

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I dont know why but my gut keeps telling me the Crocs win.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
13:47 2 Dec 15

Reply #567912

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I agree with MACDUB the Crocs are like a box of chocolates. You don't what you'll get.

I say they come out hard as they lost big Saturday and the Conklin sacking will bring them together. Cairns are an older team but deep which is the opposite to the Crocs.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
14:27 2 Dec 15

Reply #567924

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Cairns will win if they utilise their advantage which is their front court! Surely Fearney can see the light and pound the ball inside against the smaller Kay andYoung. For some reason he keeps being perimeter orientated and has the worst shooting guards in the league. He has 4 legit bigs who if rotated can keep constant pressure on the crocs rather than pinging away from the perimeter constantly!


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Train
Two years ago
15:39 2 Dec 15

Reply #567942

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I was kinda hoping Cairns dropped Craig and signed Conklin. How hilarious would it be to see Conklin coming out and dropping 30 on the team that fired him in the same week.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
17:48 2 Dec 15

Reply #567982

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I tip that i couldnt give a shit about this game or the club at the moment but i'll go to support the guys on the team. amazing that i could even say that!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:19 2 Dec 15

Reply #568053

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Non of this makes the decision to cut Conk look like a bad idea at all! Yikes what a killer start.


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Train
Two years ago
19:20 2 Dec 15

Reply #568054

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Brian who ?


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
19:20 2 Dec 15

Reply #568056

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

none of CNS starting 5 have scored. Bruce carrying the team with 2.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
19:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #568057

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

This is nutso!


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
19:21 2 Dec 15

Reply #568058

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Maybe the 5-blot foul count has something to do with it.


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Kr
Two years ago
19:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #568061

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Holy wowsers


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #568062

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Dat start doe


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:26 2 Dec 15

Reply #568064

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Welp, didn't see that coming. Great D from Townsville, but at the same time, Cairns don't seem to be actually running anything.


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Callisto 75
Two years ago
19:27 2 Dec 15

Reply #568065

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Crocs showing so far you cannot underestimate any team in this league. 3 quarters to go though.


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
19:27 2 Dec 15

Reply #568066

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

In other news, good to see Mitch Norton with the C next to his name, well deserved.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:28 2 Dec 15

Reply #568067

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

So what is happening in Cairns. Something is seriously wrong behind the scenes what is the goss


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
19:32 2 Dec 15

Reply #568074

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Haven't heard any goss but I suspect the loss of Mick Downer's cool head and ability to relate to the players is a big factor.

That and losing Wilbekin.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #568076

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Sounds like Fearne is nothing without Downer.


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:39 2 Dec 15

Reply #568077

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Kay has a very unorthodox shooting motion... Nice player, though.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:40 2 Dec 15

Reply #568078

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Order has been restored in this league...

The last 3 games...not even competitive HAHAH @ NBL...

Teams dont even bother to turn up...


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568080

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Oh god, blowout anon is back...

Jordair Jett this game... wow.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568082

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

There's another Hire in the league with a man bun


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Anonymous
Two years ago
19:43 2 Dec 15

Reply #568083

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Fearne doesn't even blowup anymore I guess he knows the players won't respond.


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
19:44 2 Dec 15

Reply #568084

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Jett realised he needed to score 40 per game or else he'd get the sack too.


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AngusH
Two years ago
19:44 2 Dec 15

Reply #568085

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Jett can probably quit shooting those 3s, though.


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MACDUB
Two years ago
20:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #568088

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Bit of a strange HT interview from Kay - "we want to do it for Conk".

Hmmm


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:04 2 Dec 15

Reply #568089

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

can someone tell us wtf is going on with both north qld clubs. serious weirdness on both fronts on and off court


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:05 2 Dec 15

Reply #568091

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

taipans shots don't even look like going in. a joke to professionalism


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:12 2 Dec 15

Reply #568092

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Fatigue hitting the Crocs this half, don't look like the same team on the defensive end.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:19 2 Dec 15

Reply #568093

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Fearne needs to give the players and opportunity to use instinct and break from plays if they see or feel something they believe in their gut will work. Really hate control freak coaches getting a good team and breaking them. Its not all about the plays. Joey is learning he needs to let his players free and it is working for them. They are smart they work hard and they can play so let them !


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ROFLcopter
Two years ago
20:23 2 Dec 15

Reply #568094

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Both teams ordinary.

Impressive 1st half from crocs. Wortho stopped the Cairns comeback. Lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:25 2 Dec 15

Reply #568095

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

The referees dont even hide what bets they place on games they officiate in.


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snooch
Two years ago
20:28 2 Dec 15

Reply #568097

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Starks starts the third on fire, Cns makes a big run a Fearne sits him. WTF?! Makes zero sense.


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:36 2 Dec 15

Reply #568100

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I like the aggression Steindl has been showing from deep this season.


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LV
Two years ago
20:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568103

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Jett was great from the get go and Cairns were out of sorts

Massive credit to the Crocs. They were locked in defensively and got it done. The team who never dies. The Muggsy Bogues Crocs keep on keeping on.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:44 2 Dec 15

Reply #568104

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

You guys do realise officials and players DO BET on games they play and officiate in...

RIGHT?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:45 2 Dec 15

Reply #568105

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

LOL, Taipans acting as if they are trying...

Some of the players are going to collect goo cash after this game for the bets they placed on the Crocs...


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AngusH
Two years ago
20:46 2 Dec 15

Reply #568106

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Uh, no anon, I don't know that. But if you do know it, you should probably reveal who and how because a lot of folks would be interested to know.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:50 2 Dec 15

Reply #568107

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

LOL, Tim Donaghy was betting for years and he never got caught by the NBL...

You think the NBL has a better chance of catching cheats than the NBA?

HAHAH..This league is nothing but a cesspool for players and refs to supplement their incomes.

Who is going to catch them? The NBL? HAHAH


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:50 2 Dec 15

Reply #568108

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

as it would be against their code of conduct for players, coaches and referee's I would be sure of your facts before you start maligning any player or referee.


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snooch
Two years ago
20:51 2 Dec 15

Reply #568109

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Townsville now has more wins this season than Cairns. It's got to be more than just losing Wilbekin. What is going on up there???


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Anonymous
Two years ago
20:58 2 Dec 15

Reply #568110

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Pathetic hater of all things NBL at it again. Sour sad little person. Crocs came out high on energy and dominated from the get go. That start was amazing, the rest is history.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
21:01 2 Dec 15

Reply #568111

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

If Cairns lose to Sydney they are done.


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PeterJohn
Two years ago
21:38 2 Dec 15

Reply #568118

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

What is McLeod's role at Cairns? They've been rubbish pretty much all season, since he went there. In particular, their defence has been rubbish this season - a big change from the last few seasons. I always rated the McLeod's teams' defence but it seems the opposite has happened in Cairns.


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Mark-e-Mark
Two years ago
21:42 2 Dec 15

Reply #568119

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I loved the Shane Heal/Jordair Jett interview "A lot of people, including me, wondered if they sacked the wrong import."

Right to his face LOL.


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snooch
Two years ago
21:53 2 Dec 15

Reply #568121

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Said it before, Fearne is the most over-rated coach in the league. Always pointing the finger at everyone but himself. He coached a terrible game tonight - had no answers.
He's done some good things in Cairns behind the scenes and in a development role - that's where he should be used. This franchise won't win a title with him as head coach.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:07 2 Dec 15

Reply #568125

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Thats because Shane Heal is a grub and trying to be sensationalist to provoke a reaction.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:10 2 Dec 15

Reply #568127

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I don't think Fearne is a great coach either but they did make the GF last season and in 2011 so he's come close twice.


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paul
Two years ago
22:14 2 Dec 15

Reply #568128

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

He's highly respected by opponents for how well prepared his teams are. I regularly get comments in interviews about how tough it is to throw them out of their stuff, although the Crocs gave them a good heave tonight!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
22:15 2 Dec 15

Reply #568129

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Nothing creates disunity like Gordie


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proud
Two years ago
06:33 3 Dec 15

Reply #568146

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

What an interesting league we have, each team can look very ordinary and yet all can be very impressive.

In both games today the losing coach should have done a Joey Wright and explode and get a tech foul and try and turn the game back in their favour but unfortunately Fearne and Gleeson will look back and wonder why they didn't... It's hard to work out who was worse.
Wildcats played well offensively in the first half but dreadful defensively and where was the evening up of the foul count? Almost felt like both coaches didn't care enough


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Kr
Two years ago
07:54 3 Dec 15

Reply #568149

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Aside from glimpses from Craig and Starks, cairns looked old to me last night. Crocs we aggressive defensively and moved the ball well on offense, but cairns just looked a step off the pace.

Their veterans haven't delivered Imo, Trigger and Loughton have been almost invisible this year, Worthington a bit down on previous years, weigh underwhelming as usual and burston has been solid enough but did nothing last night.

At some point too many veterans starts to become a liability, I wonder if cairns need a bit of a clean out next year.


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paul
Two years ago
08:00 3 Dec 15

Reply #568151

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

"Wildcats played well offensively in the first half but dreadful defensively and where was the evening up of the foul count?"

Foul count in that game was 23-20 and free throws were 25-26, so it obviously took place!


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Isaac
Two years ago
08:53 3 Dec 15

Reply #568161

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Anonymous making claims about refs and Taipans betting on the game might want to lawyer up.


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Isaac
Two years ago
08:53 3 Dec 15

Reply #568162

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

On the game, has Wortho thrown off Loughton and Tragardh? Does the team even consistently go to Tragardh like Adelaide go to Johnson and Illawarra to Ogilvy?


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Anonymous
Two years ago
09:06 3 Dec 15

Reply #568167

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

@Isaac - same writing style made the same comments when the Crocs beat Melbourne.

Its amazing the players and officials are risking their careers and jail sentences, and yet they aren't betting enough to move the odds.

If I bet $500 on an NBL game the odds move across the board from $1.90 to $1.85 on average.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
10:01 3 Dec 15

Reply #568176

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Isaac have you been approached by the league or the club regarding that Anon's comments? Seems like a very unlikely scenario to me, you'd need nearly the whole team to be in on it to play as bad as the Taipans did last night.


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snooch
Two years ago
10:11 3 Dec 15

Reply #568178

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

The idea that players and refs are betting on and throwing games is ludicrous. If you watched last night's games, it just doesn't stack up at all - Townsville played well and Cairns played poorly. It's not like the refs even had a chance to influence anything!!

Isaac, interesting point re. Wortho. I think Loughton has just really fallen away moreso than Wortho having any impact. Trigger has always come off the bench. That said, his minutes seem to chop and change game to game so maybe that's where the Wortho factor comes in. But Wortho and Burston have been the best in Cns frontcourt this season.


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King Podge
Two years ago
11:22 3 Dec 15

Reply #568191

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I've been gambling on snooch saying 'Fearne is overrated', I've just put a down payment on a golden toilet......


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snooch
Two years ago
12:40 3 Dec 15

Reply #568223

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Haha get back to me when Fearne wins a championship


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King Podge
Two years ago
12:44 3 Dec 15

Reply #568224

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

#SnoochBingo JACKPOT!


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Anonymous
Two years ago
12:50 3 Dec 15

Reply #568227

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

King Podge will Taipans still come good? rofl last month everyone realised they stunk and were out of it but you still held out hope stupidly


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Wilson Sting
Two years ago
13:14 3 Dec 15

Reply #568249

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Loughton has been ordinary this season no question. Wortho started well but has looked sluggish of late. I'm guessing Trigger is still a little hampered by his injury, he's not playing too bad but is getting few minutes.

If the Crocs fold, I'd like to see Taipans scooping back some of their young talent like Kay and Steindl to replace some of their veterans.


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King Podge
Two years ago
13:51 3 Dec 15

Reply #568282

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Anon, merry christmas. I hope you grow some balls so you can stop posting as an anon in the new year:)


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King Podge
Two years ago
13:53 3 Dec 15

Reply #568284

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Sting, Kay's got that sneaky range as well. He'll develop into a quality stretch NBL 4.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:50 3 Dec 15

Reply #568340

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Taipans should cut Wortho like Crocs did to Conklin. They aren't any better with him.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
15:51 3 Dec 15

Reply #568341

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

King Podge don't deflect from the question. How are their chances? lol


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:29 3 Dec 15

Reply #568364

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Couldn't believe Heal said the Taipans have a better roster this season than last season. Yes they signed Wortho but Wilbekin was a much better player than Starks.

Coming into this game last night Starks hadn't hit a three against any team other than the 36ers this season.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:30 3 Dec 15

Reply #568365

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Heal does less research than Carfino.


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Anonymous
Two years ago
16:30 3 Dec 15

Reply #568367

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

"Cairns by a lot. Too much to play for."

lol


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snooch
Two years ago
17:12 3 Dec 15

Reply #568371

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

Exactly. Shows a lot about Cairns that they didn't win.


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Kobe24
Two years ago
17:44 3 Dec 15

Reply #568382

re: Crocs vs Taipans, Dec 2

I can handle them not winning the crocs are so up and down but they didn't compete, amazing to see.


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