Isaac
Years ago

Crocs sign import Omar Samhan

American-Egyptian center, recently signed in the SEABL for NW Tasmania. Went to college at St Mary's with Clint Steindl and Mitch Young, amongst other Australians.

Apparently negotiations stalled with their first choice Bryce Dejean-Jones:

Bryce Dejean-Jones no longer @TsvCrocs first @NBL choice to replace Brian Conklin after negotiations stall @7NewsTownsville


Samhan has a fairly spotted pro history, needs a chance to stick somewhere:
After going undrafted in the 2010 NBA draft, Samhan joined the Dallas Mavericks for the 2010 NBA Summer League.[5] On July 16, 2010, he signed a two-year deal (with the option of a third) with Žalgiris of the Lithuanian Basketball League.[6] He left Žalgiris after just one season.

On December 13, 2011, Samhan signed with the Houston Rockets.[7] However, he was later waived by the Rockets on December 19.[8]

In February 2012, Samhan signed with the Talk 'N Text Tropang Texters of the Philippine Basketball Association.[9] He left later that month after appearing in just two games.

In February 2013, Samhan signed with ratiopharm Ulm of Germany for the rest of the 2012-13 season.[10] In June 2013, he parted ways with Ulm.[11]

In the summer of 2013, Samhan signed with the Alexandria Sporting Club for the 2013–14 Egyptian Basketball Premier League season.

On July 20, 2014, Samhan signed with King Wilki Morskie of Poland for the 2014–15 season.[12] However, his contract was later terminated by the club on September 9, 2014.[13] On November 3, 2014, Samhan was acquired by the Texas Legends of the NBA Development League.[14] On March 13, 2015, he was waived by the Legends after appearing in 18 games.[15] On April 4, he was acquired by the Los Angeles D-Fenders,[15] closing out the season with the team. However, he didn't play for them.

On November 20, 2015, Samhan signed with the NW Tasmania Thunder for the 2016 SEABL season.[16]

In 18 DLeague games, he averaged 12.2 MPG for 2.3 PPG and 2.7 RPG at 32% FG and 22% 3P.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not real excited about this reckon he is a guy who gets signed for his height then they work out pretty quick he isnt any good.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He was the centrepiece for Gaels teams that had Diamon Simpson, Mitch Young, Clint Steindl, Lucas Walker, Patty Mills, Mickey McConnell and Delly to name a few so he can play. Still remember him pounding down Villanova in the second round of the NCAA tournament to the tune of 32 points.

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Mick  
Years ago

Very, very unimpressive. He is not a good player and will struggle at the NBL level. Egg meet face. I predict averages of about 8 points and 3 rebounds, and he will be so poor on defense that he will become unplayable as the season goes on.

Now they'll have to pay for 3 imports for zero value added to the W column. Would have been better off sacking Conklin and signing nobody.

If anyone actually cared about the Crocs this would be a PR nightmare.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Watched him many times with the Gaels, and well ... he's better than nobody :p

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Naph  
Years ago

http://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/omar-samhan-1.html
Transformed his body over his playing days at college, averaged just shy of 21p/11r/3b as a senior. That year he tore up (his admittedly shorter) opponents in the Gaels Sweet 16 NCAA run in 2010.

Not athletic. But a big guy that knows how to use his size. Had a decent mid-range jumper to go with an array of effective low-post moves, at least at the college level.

http://www.thenational.ae/sport/nba/ball-like-an-egyptian-omar-samhan-embracing-international-career
Tore his ACL after 2 games in the Phillipines, so not surprising he didn't stick there as an import.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZypqgNZZchw
That's his D-League highlights for 14/15.


Omar's a great character and interview. He has "BEAST" tattooed on the inside of his bottom lip, do I really need to say more? Would love to see him succeed in the NBL. If he has enough game he will be great for filling up newspaper columns and giving sound bites for the TV as well. Could be a real fan favourite.

Check out this video from his time in Germany...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-QhrjS7bVMA

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Axel Dench 2.0...?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is he going to play thursday night?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

It seems the crocs wanted someone asap so when their first choice fell through they scrambled and grabbed ssmhan who i think ive seen mentioned he is already in Australia???

After talk of an extensive patient search ill be interested to see how he goes as i expected some one more proven as its not a great resume since college for omar but doesn't mean he won't succeed either.

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The_Champ33  
Years ago

Damn! It's not my man Diamon Simpson.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Champ_33 you obviously heard he was a former St Mary's product and was hoping?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol - crocs were never going to sign anyone of high profile - negotiation stalled when they mentioned there was no money ...
8 points and 3 rebounds a game is generous given how much time has passed since he played any good ..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Second coming of Ben Allen ^

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KingJames  
Years ago

Surely this signing will cheer up Kobe24 as now Ere is not the worst import in the league ;)

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Isaac  
Years ago

It seems the crocs wanted someone asap so when their first choice fell through they scrambled and grabbed ssmhan who i think ive seen mentioned he is already in Australia???
The Crocs did mention in articles that finding someone who would be quickly available was a factor.

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Mick  
Years ago

@isaac: I think that was driven by their playoff delusions.

But as i have said before, even if you put an all-time great import on this roster this late in the season, you would struggle to make it. Signing Samhan is just pouring money down the drain.

It's dumb basketball wise because Samhan is terrible and even if he was great it wouldnt matter and theyd miss the playoffs (not to mention taking shots away from Kay), and it's dumb business wise because you are paying two imports when you are running at a deficit and need extraneous expenses like a hole in the head.

Dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb.

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RMQ  
Years ago

This isn't Dunigan.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The "Talk 'n' Text Tropang Texters"......outstanding!

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Dave Crocman  
Years ago

the guy hasn't even stepped onto an NBL court yet and all you Keyboard wankers are saying he is shit. Far out this forum is full of dead set dickheads.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Spot on Dave,Keyboard Wankers!!

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Jett must be loving this signing. He is now only the second fastest import for the Crocs. And he has a running mate for the Jupiter's buffet.

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*fattest*

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tony Rampton 2.0

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Mick  
Years ago

I take it the irony of calling someone a keyboard wanker on an internet forum is lost on you Dave?

The fact is a lot of people on here are very familiar with his game and ability.

He simply isn't very good, has conditioning issues, and has had a very poor pro career so far.

The Crocs are a basketcase if they think this is going to get them a single extra win let alone a playoff birth.

I would go so far as to say he will be a net negative and our best frontcourt lineup will continue to be Kay and Young.

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Big Sexy  
Years ago

Is first 2 games (if cleared in time) will be against Johnson, so it will probably average 20 and 10 :-)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wait and see how he goes before condemning him maybe?

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paul  
Years ago

I imagine he's cheap, he's available and he fills a need. If he gives them a solid back-up to Kay and Young on near-minimum wage that's not a bad result.

He certainly had potential to be a good pro, I don't know what's gone wrong, but for the Crocs' sake I hope he feels at home with Young and Steindl and finally produces what he's capable of.

Given they had a much better play all-but signed this appears to be quite a downgrade though.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Back at St Mary's he was even better than Ben Allen so Crocs fans should be stoked with this signing

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MACDUB  
Years ago

Very very bad signing IMO.

People are rating him based on what he did at St Mary's.

The fact is that since then, he hasn't played with a team for more than one season, each year he has gotten lower and lower with the quality of the leagues he's been with (NBA Summer League/Borderline NBA, Lithuania, Germany, Egypt, SEABL) and his recent stats are very unimpressive.




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Mick  
Years ago

Even if he isn't on much money you have to weigh this up against the other alternatives that don't cost more $$$, and i think either keeping conklin or sacking conklin and hiring no one were both better alternatives.

I dont look at that roster and think "gee what we really need is an unathletic offensive minded big man that can't stretch the floor" regardless of how good he is.

But yeah, missing the playoffs was not an option according to the man calling the shots, so here is Samhan. Playoffs here we come!

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Lets see how he goes, one thing the 36ers dont have is height, so he will have 2 games to atleast attempt to dominate with his size. Cant imagine the Crocs had 2 cents to rub together with this signing. So worst case he is a body that can give you 5 fouls worth and some relief minutes. If he can keep the defense honest it might further help develop Kay's game too.

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KingJames  
Years ago

Mick even if they don't make the playoffs I think they brought him in, in the hope of remaining competitive every game. They would have been better off with Conklin but perhaps there is more to that story.

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mystro  
Years ago

Conklin elbowed the owners wife?

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With his penis.

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Callisto 75  
Years ago

Samhan has the perfect first two games to get used to the league and match up wise the Sixers who are soft inside.

He was awesome in college but his pro career has been a semi flop so far. But with Australia being close culturally to the US hopefully he can adjust easier than in Europe.

Good for him to get in shape for SEABL as well his SEABL should be happy Townsville have picked him up.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Australia very close culturally to Egypt too. We have less oil but better camels.
I think I'll light one now.

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Dazz  
Years ago

Not athletic. But a big guy that knows how to use his size
so basically he will get reffed out of the game in the NBL.

If he's signed for the Thunder in the SEABL, you have to assume he's playing for pizza, so presumably the Crocs got him cheap. If they can avoid paying out Conklin then they have saved a bundle.

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Touch the rim  
Years ago

Haha perpetual pessimist, Mick.

Seems unimpressive but let's just give the guy a game or two! Sheesh...

Bunch of buzzkills here, gee whiz

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Mark-e-Mark  
Years ago

I am not sure why they jumped to grab basically just anyone close and cheap enough to replace Conklin. This is what makes me think that this is deeper than just poor performance. Nothing I have seen or heard suggests Omar will be any better than Conklin; infact, quite the opposite.

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Indominous-Rex  
Years ago

I do agree, although I think it might be simply for money. Omar, would've come cheap, where as Conklin would be on MVP money.

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The market for players is so saturated that there is no need to jump at the first big who is available and in Australia. Flight time from Hobart to Townsville is less than one day quicker than anywhere in the USA to Townsville. Are the Crocs unwilling to wait one extra day to get a player who has performed consistently in a strong league? And is in good shape? And is a better fit for their roster (they now have 0 bigs who can really stretch the floor or protect the rim).

European teams cut and sign players every week, players leave teams due to not being paid or not getting acceptable court time - so there are always agents reaching out to teams via email with available players. Any professional coach with a half decent network of agents could send one email to 20 agents and get 50+ better names than Omah Samham. And players who sign mid season you can always get at a discount because they are looking for a job.

Amateur decision by Crocs management.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Maybe the other guy was stalling or asking for more money?

And on why they replaced Conklin, maybe they thought they could cut him without cost and save money. They've played well both times without Conklin so they could look at this as a cheap addition.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The speculation in SEABL circles is that he is a bad fit for the Thunder. Crocs dunno.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Love how no one here has any idea that Omar can stretch the floor and is an extremely good 3pt shooter and very good low post player. Also all this speculation over Conklin, they don't have to pay him out - full stop!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Do you really love it...

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"Love how no one here has any idea that Omar can stretch the floor and is an extremely good 3pt shooter "

Samhan's last two stops shooting the 3pt shot:

D-League: 17 games, 9 attempts, 22% from 3pt.
Germany BBL: 18 games, 19 attempts, 26% from 3pt line.

Care to add some facts in with your argument? The only thing he is "stretching" is his Crocs singlet every time he puts it on.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Only winners appear to be NWT in the a SEABL as at least he might be in shape Come the start of the season & used to the Reffing.

Although he might be very unmotivated come SEABL season as he has a rep for getting disinterested pretty quickly.

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kr  
Years ago

Dennis seems happy enough, hopefully we'll get to see tonight.

"He was probably a level of player at that particular time we didn't think would end up in Australia, but different circumstances have evolved that’s brought him here. He looks in fantastic shape, which is what I was told and that’s great news.

"His ability to score in the low post is probably the big thing that attracted us to him and the fact that he’s been a good rebounder wherever he’s gone.

“He has also developed a perimeter shot so it will stretch our defence a bit more and give guys like Mitch Norton, Corey and Jordair that room to move and penetrate."

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paul  
Years ago

I truly hope SD knows something we don't. He's done well with his imports on tight budgets, but this would be a rabbit out of a hat if he can get Samhan to be a decent contributor who helps the team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Sure is a lot of hate for this guy here considering he hasn't stepped foot on an NBL court yet.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

All hate on here,uneducated fools mostly..

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Kr  
Years ago

Solid first performance from the big fella, 10 and 6 plus a steal and a block in 16 minutes. Hope you were watching and cheering mick.

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Kobe24  
Years ago

Looked better than our locker room guy.

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Touch the rim  
Years ago

Dude is super smart around the paint, has great touch. Delivers a dimension the Crocs need.

How ya goin' Mick?

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paul  
Years ago

If Schenscher is out for most or all of the season he looks like a smart pick as back-up C, but if Luke is back soon they kind of double up a little bit. Still, good to see him play some solid minutes, look forward to seeing against teams with a C of their own.

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