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finals995
Two years ago

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WNBL Round 12

Thurs: LYNX vs FIRE
Sat: FLAMES vs BOOMERS; SPIRIT vs CAPS;
STARS vs RANGERS; LIGHTNING vs FIRE.

NYE has the ladder leading Perth Lynx hosting the travelling Townsville Fire. This one has 'game of the season' written all over it. The two teams might be playing each other quite a few times between now and season end.

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Andy
Two years ago
09:56 31 Dec 15

Reply #572322

re: WNBL Round 12

I'm really happy for Lynx fans this season, I don't blame them for being a little pessimistic at seasons start after years of carnage. I really liked the tall list they put together and did expect them to finish top 4, maybe not top though!


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Luuuc
Two years ago
10:21 31 Dec 15

Reply #572324

re: WNBL Round 12

Big test for the Lynx tonight. The one team we are yet to beat.


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Andy
Two years ago
11:44 31 Dec 15

Reply #572343

re: WNBL Round 12

The Fire have not been any where near as tough as I thought they would be this season, any team in the past with both Suzi and Cayla would almost be unbeatable. I do expect them to lift come finals though.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
12:59 31 Dec 15

Reply #572347

re: WNBL Round 12

The punters have faith in Perth

Lynx $1.57
Fire $2.25

Margin -2.5 points


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.
Two years ago
16:01 31 Dec 15

Reply #572350

re: WNBL Round 12

fire for me in a close one


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finals995
Two years ago
18:07 31 Dec 15

Reply #572357

re: WNBL Round 12

I can't pick it myself. I'm finding it hard to get a read on the Fire this season. The easier part of their schedule when I thought they would be toughest has gone and as we've seen it hasn't been all smooth sailing for the Champions. At times they've labored and their win/loss percentage shows it. As it stands now, they have 10 games of the regular season to go and whilst that's a lot of potential 'W's it does include the 3 longest road double headers interspersed with some very tough home games.

Perth with 9 games left including 2 road double headers against UCC and Sydney, would be hoping for better than 60% W/L from their 5 home games. If at least one of those home wins is against Townsville it would be a significant boost for them. Maybe tonights encounter will answer the question: can Burton and Tomlinson contain Batkovic and George? And/or will that even be relevant if Whitcomb gets hot??


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Anonymous
Two years ago
23:04 31 Dec 15

Reply #572366

re: WNBL Round 12

Great win for the Fire on the road without Tatham.


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Luuuc
Two years ago
23:07 31 Dec 15

Reply #572368

re: WNBL Round 12

Yep they meant business tonight. Attacked us from the start and we couldn't handle it.
The ball wasn't bouncing our way, but even putting that aside the fire looked clearly the more composed and smart team.


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Dazz
Two years ago
23:56 31 Dec 15

Reply #572371

re: WNBL Round 12

First time I've seen them play. Perth had some tall girls, but TV had a couple of BIG bodies. Their 3-point shooting was also brilliant.


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Luuuc
Last year
00:14 1 Jan 16

Reply #572373

re: WNBL Round 12

Yeah, Townsville is known for its international-level front court. We've got to do a better job on them if we're going to beat that team.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:13 1 Jan 16

Reply #572378

re: WNBL Round 12

Stellar performance by burton again. Lol. Crazy...


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Anonymous
Last year
10:58 1 Jan 16

Reply #572385

re: WNBL Round 12

Agreed. Lavey justifying her selection into the squad while Burton continues to leave most puzzled as to why she would belong ahead of others.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:39 1 Jan 16

Reply #572417

re: WNBL Round 12

Which team was allowed to register a new player after the time limit had expired?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:57 1 Jan 16

Reply #572420

re: WNBL Round 12

Will the Boomers clean out be bigger than the Caps?


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finals995
Last year
19:13 2 Jan 16

Reply #572487

re: WNBL Round 12

In nearly 16 minutes of court time Bishop has taken 1 shot?


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Luuuc
Last year
20:19 2 Jan 16

Reply #572501

re: WNBL Round 12

She finished the game with 2 FGA. Yes, very unusual. Wonder if it was Bendigo's D targeting her or just a Kobe-style sook.
Spirit won 78-68. Closer than I expected actually.

SEQ-Rangers looking like a good contest so far.


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Andy
Last year
21:04 2 Jan 16

Reply #572506

re: WNBL Round 12

Canberra's only good player is SEQ's throw away.


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Luuuc
Last year
21:30 2 Jan 16

Reply #572511

re: WNBL Round 12

I think escapee is probably a more accurate description, but either way, yeah, she didn't have a lot of help today.
Neither did Leilani in Townsville's pummelling of the Lightning.

Hooper was well contained by Dandenong and I'd say that went a long way towards their 6 point win over an undermanned SEQ. Looks like Jacinta Monroe didn't arrive in time for this one.


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finals995
Last year
21:40 2 Jan 16

Reply #572512

re: WNBL Round 12

Stallworth had a great game for them.

Rangers get one on the road against the depleted Stars. Ibekwe's absence is going to be hard to cover.


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finals995
Last year
21:55 2 Jan 16

Reply #572517

re: WNBL Round 12

OK so Jacinta Monroe is Ibekwe's replacement and now this clears up what anonymous was saying above.

Tremendous display from Mitchell that sends a message to some of the young point guards around. She shot the ball at 64% (80% from deep). But Cayla was even better, shooting at 66%. Good to note Gaze doing well off the bench for the Fire.


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.
Last year
22:00 2 Jan 16

Reply #572518

re: WNBL Round 12

adelaide present vrs adelaide old scholars - mitchell was good - townsville too tall


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.
Last year
02:24 3 Jan 16

Reply #572521

re: WNBL Round 12

Mitchell with the front court steal of the season


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Interested Spectator
Last year
10:07 3 Jan 16

Reply #572528

re: WNBL Round 12

Was at the Spirit Caps game. Bishop was a non-event. Didn't look to score when she had the ball. In past years she was look to score first, pass second. Last night was all passing,even driving through the key then dishing out to three instead of the back turn to the basket. Did have Griffin on her, but no real lock down D or double teaming. Talbot quiet in the 1st half, didn't see much of the ball, but at least attacked the basket in the second.

Stallworth was impressive with some nice post moves. Had their 1st 10 points and the only thing keeping them in the game. I think she likes being the focal point in offence - or at least getting the ball in her hands, unlike at SEQ.

Montgomery is quick with good handles and some nice passing, but a poor outside shot that she likes taking.

There is talent on this Caps team and they shouldn't be 0-16, but the attitude/desire is sorely lacking. Starts at the top with Graf/Bishop. Graf appears as though she knows this is her last year and is going through the motions - none of the yelling, whistles or animation on the bench from her.

Bendigo were up and down again - story of their year. Have patches where they play very well and are unstoppable, but then have times where they get bogged down and are very stagnant, no one moving for a few offences in a row. Griffin very efficient with 20/14.


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Caps Fan
Last year
11:13 3 Jan 16

Reply #572529

re: WNBL Round 12

Results of the review are "in" - Graf is gone from coaching but is 80% certain to remain at Uni of Can in medium term, 100% certain to be on Uni Can payroll for at least next year, so they will find a position her somewhere ( or pay her out ). Open applications for new coach will be "announced" around the end of the minor round.


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Caps Fan
Last year
11:19 3 Jan 16

Reply #572530

re: WNBL Round 12

Or perhaps it's all just loose gossip and Graf will sign a 4 year coaching contract extension and win 3 more titles, and then take the Opals to a gold medal

This is the management that just got around to releasing LJ 3+1/2 years into a 4 year $1Million contract that yielded 6 games so everything is possible.


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SamCro
Last year
14:47 3 Jan 16

Reply #572540

re: WNBL Round 12

I'm hearing that Phil Brown will coach the Caps next year after they finally begin a rebuild with youth players. It's common knowledge that Graf always preferred coaching seasoned veterans (Dad's Army) rather than developing young players. Phil Brown has an outstanding record in coaching & developing young players & would be good choice for the Caps in their rebuild next season IMO.


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Caps Fan
Last year
21:40 3 Jan 16

Reply #572554

re: WNBL Round 12

Phil Brown has an outstanding record in coaching & developing young players ?

Erin Philips anyone ?, there are a few others that did rather well after being identified as "not AIS material" by Phil et al, and a few who were identified and had their scholarships renewed year in and year out - but did not kick on, but yes, as about 95% of all opals went through the institute the record does look good doesn't it ?

Almost as good as Marty Clarke's , in fact every head and assistant coach at the AIS pre "mature" player scholarship has fantastic records in developing young players that got to Oz rep status.

Not difficult when you could just pick the best 4-7 players at the national U/16s after (mostly)watching them for the last 2 years at the u/14 clubs and at the various state ITCs.

Good luck to him if he takes it on.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:42 3 Jan 16

Reply #572557

re: WNBL Round 12

I feel like if you don't want to see the Caps succeed, you'd be really happy to see Phil in charge. Only potential upside is that he may have some recruiting sway with girls he coached at the AIS? The WNBL is not a 'development' league these days, though, it's the 2nd best women's league in the world and I can't see Phil outperforming Graffy with an equivalent roster.

It will be interesting to see what of the review findings is made public, because UC should be taking some responsibility for the club's lack of strategic direction since their takeover. Recruiting and community engagement have been extremely poor, and the failure to approach the LJ injury situation with any sense of realism has underpinned that. It's as though everyone just sat there thinking the team would win and crowds would show up as soon as she was back on court. Of course, it's been apparent for some time - years, not just this season - that a) she was unlikely to handle a full playing load and b) her priority is the Olympics. If UC have left Graf with so much free reign that she bears responsibility for the failures in roster construction, well, that's as bad as the Clippers letting Doc Rivers keep making personnel decisions in support of his son's NBA career.


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Just Old
Last year
23:33 3 Jan 16

Reply #572559

re: WNBL Round 12

" it's the 2nd best women's league in the world "

LOL, this just missed being the joke of the year 2015


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Luuuc
Last year
23:36 3 Jan 16

Reply #572560

re: WNBL Round 12

Just to pull you up on the Maleyism you have just repeated, the WNBL is, at best, the 3rd-best women's league in the world.
It's quality league, but it is also a clear step down from the WNBA and EuroLeague.

As for not being able to see Phil outperforming Graf with a similar roster, I guess the obvious retort would be that he literally could not do any worse.

I'm certainly eagerly awaiting the results of the review though. I have to confess I do enjoy seeing the Caps suffer a little after so many years of arrogance thanks to taxpayer-funded dominance at the expense of clubs like Perth who've had to live within their very modest means. (I still want them in the league though, so failure is not an option!)


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Anonymous
Last year
00:48 4 Jan 16

Reply #572563

re: WNBL Round 12

PHIL brown developing players........hmmmmm well as long as they don't want to shoot lol, .......he had one player up at the AIS for years, she had so much work done on her shooting style and she still can't shooot even now, but she kept getting asked back again and again and again.

Nope sorry if caps want to improve they need a better coach than phil brown IMO.

As for the LJ saga, time she hung up her boots.....so maybe she could step in as coach, earn that million that they paid her fir 6 games....... Equates to around $167,000 per game, in which she played less than 30 mins....... Yes she's done a lot for aus basketball but really this was ridiculous paying for someone to just sit there, plus her rehab expenses


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finals995
Last year
14:44 4 Jan 16

Reply #572590

re: WNBL Round 12

It all depends how much money they want to spend.

Clearly there are two specific roles involved here. Being good at one doesn't necessarily imply ability in the other. Graf could do the "GM" type role (Brown also would be good in this role). But for HC, if they have the money, I'd look at somebody like Peter Buckle.


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Just Very Old
Last year
16:46 4 Jan 16

Reply #572599

re: WNBL Round 12

Peter Buckle ?

who just called out "@&%@#$#@ Not - AGAIN ?? - OH YES !!!"


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