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Isaac
Last year

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Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

First of two games between these teams in Round 15. Hawks host first and then play in NZ on the 17th.

Hawks are in form (4-1 last five) despite Ogilvy being below his best two straight games, while the Breakers have lost their last two.

Your tip?

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Wilson Sting
Last year
13:31 14 Jan 16

Reply #573399

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Hawks have the most balanced starting 5 in the league. Their depth is a bit questionable.

I like the Hawks to win and make the GF provided they have no injuries to their starting 5 - a big ask.


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Jack Toft
Last year
15:28 14 Jan 16

Reply #573420

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

As a Sixers fan I'll be watching this game(s) very closely.

Last time these teams met was R11 in Auckland. Hawks winning 107/83. 24 3's went through the nets. The Hawks were up by 13 at quarter time. For the Hawks, Oscar fouled out, Penney & Lisch went crazy on the scoreboard and there were 12 steals from the Hawks. For the Breakers, on the scoreboard Cedric was quiet, but dished out 9 assists. Webster the master blaster on the scoreboard and Vukona with 4 OR's.

The Hawks are the team carrying form into this first game. With a double header round like this first blood is important. I'm thinking that the Breakers might be struggling tonight in what should be a high scoring game played beyond the arc.

I'll think the Hawks should squeeze home in a tight one.


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mystro
Last year
16:26 14 Jan 16

Reply #573426

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Breakers need to find the intensity defensively that has taken them to 4 titles in 5 years or they may as well start planning what they are doing next season.
Wollongong have given them hidings the last 2x times they have played due to NZ's inability to defend the perimeter.

Hawks are favourites for this one and the result will say a lot about NZ's title aspirations.


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Luuuc
Last year
17:49 14 Jan 16

Reply #573440

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Hawks $1.45
Breakers $2.75

Would be a while since NZ has been paying those odds I'd imagine.


Love the Hawks. Hope they get this one.


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MACDUB
Last year
19:48 14 Jan 16

Reply #573452

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Wow. We are playing absolutely terrible!

Our offense is disgusting to watch..defensively we are giving the Hawks open everything

Wouldn't mind if we lost Weasley - he really frustrates me.

Te Rangi needs to step up otherwise we should review whether to bring him back. Perhaps give him a year off to focus on NZNBL and individual development.Sure he is young but NZHoops posted something the other day that said thay he is that bad offensively that the Breakers pretty much can't play him!


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Tyrell
Last year
19:58 14 Jan 16

Reply #573454

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

At a loss for words- the boys look like a shell of the former team. Charles Jackson and Pledger getting limited time, body language amongst them is also terrible.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:04 14 Jan 16

Reply #573456

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

My preseason Hawks v Perth grand final looking like a treat at the minute.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:04 14 Jan 16

Reply #573457

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

pick


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Anonymous
Last year
20:05 14 Jan 16

Reply #573458

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Are the Hawks the greatest shooting team in the history of basketball? WORLD WIDE?


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Tyrell
Last year
20:16 14 Jan 16

Reply #573459

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

What are the underlying issues for the Breakers' performances? Coaching/squad/attitude?? This is EMBARASSING!


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Indoorkite
Last year
20:25 14 Jan 16

Reply #573460

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

That girl looked more uncomfortable talking to Dan Ewing than Mel McLaughlin did talking to Chris Gayle


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MACDUB
Last year
20:29 14 Jan 16

Reply #573461

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Yea well done Weasley staring down Lisch after that block - someone remind him were down 20. Geez.


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AngusH
Last year
20:45 14 Jan 16

Reply #573462

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Don't like the look of the Breakers at all... Webster with a three on the semi-break, but had a real easy opportunity to get Charles Jackson an alley-oop or easy dunk. Just seems like Webster wants to pad the stats.

I hope the Fox Sports clock is wrong right now, because clock is ticking away over a minute while they checked if Penney shot a 2 or 3....


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Anonymous
Last year
20:48 14 Jan 16

Reply #573463

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

The Breakers will be back... Every team has its rough patches during the season.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:57 14 Jan 16

Reply #573464

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

It's really looking like no contest for this year's title isn't it? Hawks too good.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:01 14 Jan 16

Reply #573465

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Didn't Melbourne just beat the Hawks last week?


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Kobe24
Last year
21:11 14 Jan 16

Reply #573468

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Hawks will win it this season and that's a great thing. Very likeable team. Breakers looked spent tonight no passion or decent offensive game plan at all. Perth haven't been much better. Hawks clicking and embarrassing teams at right time of year


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AngusH
Last year
22:11 14 Jan 16

Reply #573473

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Hawks need to finish 1st to avoid relying on road wins in the finals. They are awesome at home, but still iffy on the road.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:45 14 Jan 16

Reply #573475

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Breakers will be Lucky if they make the playoffs at this stage.


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XY
Last year
00:14 15 Jan 16

Reply #573480

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Anon #573458

There is this little unknown team called the Golden State Warriors that someone mentioned to me the other day who apparently have a couple of good shooters.


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mystro
Last year
03:43 15 Jan 16

Reply #573483

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

I was embarrassed to be a breakers fan watching that game. They were all terrible, we took tough contested shots and gave them layups and open 3's.
If they continue to play like this they don't deserve to be in any title conversation let alone make the playoffs.


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Isaac
Last year
06:59 15 Jan 16

Reply #573484

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Lemanis noted that the Breakers actually had a better shooting percentage late in the game.

Rumour is an internal chemistry issue has wrecked the Breakers. Body language out there was poor.


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Kobe24
Last year
07:18 15 Jan 16

Reply #573485

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Corey Webster, something is up with him... He looks dejected and completely unmotivated.


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paul
Last year
07:45 15 Jan 16

Reply #573487

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

"Rumour is an internal chemistry issue has wrecked the Breakers. Body language out there was poor."

There is no way NZ give up 24 offensive rebounds to the Hawks if they're playing at 100%.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:03 15 Jan 16

Reply #573492

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Tai Wesley's stare down in Lisch after blocking him late in the game, when down 20 spoke volumes.

1/11 shooting. Efficient, least he didn't go down wondering.


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XY
Last year
10:15 15 Jan 16

Reply #573496

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

24 offensive rebounds? Didn't see the game, did that leave any rebounds for the defenders to grab? Was Vukona playing with one arm tied behind his back?

Just checked the box score. Hawks led 24-21 on rebounding at that end of the floor. That is kind of embarrassing.


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paul
Last year
10:35 15 Jan 16

Reply #573499

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

To quote Susan's mother, "something's missing alright".


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LV
Last year
17:06 15 Jan 16

Reply #573536

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

A combination of general busyness, the Big Bash Cricket season and a dip in the number of NBL games has meant that I haven't paid much attention to the NBL at all over the past month or so.

But I have to ask; What on EARTH is going on with the Breakers? They were my title tip a few weeks ago.


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LV
Last year
17:08 15 Jan 16

Reply #573537

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Since when do √Źnternal chemistry issues" plague teams with seasoned professionals who have won multiple championships together and not had any reported issues previously??

Charles Jackson is the main new guy on the block- and by all accounts, and all appearances he's a great young chap.

It makes no sense!


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paul
Last year
17:09 15 Jan 16

Reply #573538

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Ever heard of North Melbourne? They were pretty seasoned.


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LV
Last year
17:37 15 Jan 16

Reply #573539

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Well it happened at the LA Lakers but they were guys worth tens of millions of dollars with massive egos.

But none of these guys on the NZ Breakers look like the kind of guys who might be tempted to think- even for a second- that the sun shines out of their own ass. They all look like guys who are professional in attitude and approach and are there to get the job done. And their results have shown that to be the case.

I would be far less surprised if there were chemistry issues at say Perth or Melbourne- places where they are people of (arguably, speculatively) questionable character and/or who have been involved in team melt downs in the past. But NZ? No, surely not... so I thought.


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MACDUB
Last year
22:38 15 Jan 16

Reply #573562

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Not sure of chemistry issues/infighting.

But there's definently some angry Breakers players (whether angry at themselves or teammates) and that can lead to some friction.

IMO, the issue is that some players seem to have forgot their roles/doing too much. Weasley for example seems to have forgotten that he is a role playing 4 man and needs to stop taking shots as if he is the go to offensive player.

Just need to go back to their roles - this is what the All Blacks preach..do your job. Alas last 5 years = 55-5 odd record, 2 World Cups and every other silvery you can imagine.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:40 16 Jan 16

Reply #573581

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Webster is not easy guy to play with. He is like James Harden a mega star scorer who needs the ball all the time to be effective. Guys like that are not fun to play with.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:18 16 Jan 16

Reply #573587

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Isaac, without going into specifics- can you inform whether these issues are players disgruntled with other players or is it players disgruntled with coaches?

The body language out there looks VERY bad. Offensively it's all 1 on 1 stuff....could this be a stunt to limp to the finals? Could it be that they have gotten bored? Is it time for a cleanout?


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MACDUB
Last year
08:24 16 Jan 16

Reply #573588

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

You're way off the mark re: Webster. That's just nonsense.

A very good teammate, great to play with. He is a scorer so naturally he is going to want the ball.


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Kobe24
Last year
12:14 16 Jan 16

Reply #573607

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Atleast one player pretty angry with a specific teammate id say, from the rumours that were circling weeks back. They didnt turn up in Wollongong, cant seem them making the playoffs, which is just crazy stuff!


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LV
Last year
16:27 16 Jan 16

Reply #573619

re: Hawks vs Breakers, Jan 14

Oh my mind was in basketball mode!!

Paul did you mean North Melbourne eg Carey and Stevens?

Well that's juicy....


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