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Jack Toft
Last year

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Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

It's Valentines Day and that means there's love in the air. The big question being, who will be silly enough to propose to his girlfriend in front of all the Wildcat fans at half time? Being the era of PC, it could be a girl asking her girlfriend.

I'ld like to be excited about this game, but this is the classic dead rubber with nothing to play for and everything to lose. I'm about as excited as being the shopping bag holder on a trip to the local Westfield with a bunch of Kardashians.

The TV news reported Gibbo signing up on a $200K/yr contract with Brisbane next year. It seems him and Peach are in doubt for this game, oh well, better send over some development players to cover them.

Perth with everything to lose in this game, but will they be ruled by the heads, or some other appendage? They won't want an injury going into finals, especially Prather or Beal. They would be stupid if their starting 5 played much more than about 10 to 15 minutes

I'm going to call this the Valentine's Day Massacre.

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ROFLcopter
Last year
10:59 14 Feb 16

Reply #577641

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Mosquito fleet will lose.

Interesting to see what the crowd is....and if Perth give them value for money. I sure hope so.

Same in Melbourne today. Full house, sold out weeks ago. I hope they get value for money.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
11:30 14 Feb 16

Reply #577645

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

This game gonna be boring.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:53 14 Feb 16

Reply #577658

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Pathetic that Gibbo and possibly Peach are being rested when this is the last game of the season for them anyway.


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shin_splints
Last year
13:56 14 Feb 16

Reply #577659

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

As a 36er fan living in Perth, today will be my only chance to see them live this season. I realize that this game means nothing, but I will be pissed if the game resembles a training session.

All clubs cannot lose sight that there are still fans paying shit loads (especially in Perth) to see a game, plus the quality of the product broadcast live on FOXTEL.


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MACDUB
Last year
15:12 14 Feb 16

Reply #577667

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Actually i think the quality of the games this round has been the highest all year. Most gamea resemble glorified pick up games allowing high scoring, some nice dunks, some big individiaul performances (30 pt games) and a very good OT game.

The games have been less meaningless.

But i think the quality has made up for it.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:21 14 Feb 16

Reply #577671

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

WTF Gibson $200K/year after being a passenger all of this season? Wow massively overpaid.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:25 14 Feb 16

Reply #577690

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Despite the playoff seedings being set the ladder can still finish differently.

Perth win vs Adelaide = Mel & Per tied on 18-10 meaning Per finish 1st due to superior pts %.

Perth lose vs Adelaide = Per & Ill tied on 17-11 meaning Ill finish 2nd due to suprior pts %.

Remember the ladder final positions are based on overall record not head to head. Head to head/mini league is only used for playoff seedings.

Of course none of this matters re: playoff seedings as those were set in stone on Friday.


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Jackson G
Last year
17:04 14 Feb 16

Reply #577699

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Wow.. glad I didn't watch the NZ Melb game... score looks like they're resting for the meaningful games..


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Anonymous
Last year
17:37 14 Feb 16

Reply #577701

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sixers why is your FB site dead. Nothing about the game today. Do you want some loyalty or have you just shut down ?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:48 14 Feb 16

Reply #577703

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sixers FB flopped at the money end of the season just as the team did.


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snooch
Last year
18:31 14 Feb 16

Reply #577707

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

They posted a pic from the lockeroom on FB..


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Anonymous
Last year
18:38 14 Feb 16

Reply #577708

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sobey over Teys !!!! WTF JOEY !!!!


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:40 14 Feb 16

Reply #577709

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Lol, 6ers a bit sloppy early.

Sobey with a big jam!!


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Anonymous
Last year
18:40 14 Feb 16

Reply #577710

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Stunned that Perth would go full strength with all the injury worries into a meaningless game!


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:43 14 Feb 16

Reply #577711

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Petrie with some muscle....LOL

About time. Enjoyable game early!


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Anonymous
Last year
18:48 14 Feb 16

Reply #577712

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Lol 7 fouls to 0


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:53 14 Feb 16

Reply #577714

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

I never liked Sobey.....UNTIL NOW!!!

Hire is a flog!


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MACDUB
Last year
18:54 14 Feb 16

Reply #577715

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Hire bumps people all the time and throws them over the court. Happens to him once and he loses his mind. Can't handle a dose of his own medicine.


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Chop006
Last year
18:54 14 Feb 16

Reply #577716

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sobey has some fire


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:55 14 Feb 16

Reply #577717

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sobey is in beast mode!


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Anonymous
Last year
19:02 14 Feb 16

Reply #577718

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Take that WTF back .. Sixers attitude is fun to watch. Perth floppers at it again. They get their feet under the opposition and in their cylinder so only way is down. If the refs looked at the feet they would see it's a tactic and a foul or flop should be called every single time. Go Sixers havemsome fun with and DJ, Randle and Gibbo get thise stats racked up !


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Anonymous
Last year
19:02 14 Feb 16

Reply #577719

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

I think Beal will be given the boot at seasons end. Same with Jawai.


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TimberBall
Last year
19:03 14 Feb 16

Reply #577720

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

6ers to shit to make playoffs so they go out to injure Perth players. Go back to your dump of a city so the good teams can play.


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MACDUB
Last year
19:04 14 Feb 16

Reply #577721

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Wow.

1. Redhage just bowled Creek over..full on push.

2. That was hardly a leg lock. Hardly anything.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:05 14 Feb 16

Reply #577722

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

God I Hate Redhage. Shoves Creek to the ground and Creek straightens his ankle still inbalanced on his but and gets the unsportsmanlike. WTF REFS !


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Hendo8888
Last year
19:22 14 Feb 16

Reply #577724

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Did Joey bench Gibbo? Good on him!


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Tyrell
Last year
19:24 14 Feb 16

Reply #577725

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

What is anon on about regarding ladder and seedings?


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Hendo8888
Last year
19:26 14 Feb 16

Reply #577726

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Yeah, the ladder was settled on Friday night when we lost to Illawarra.


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Wildcats80
Last year
19:27 14 Feb 16

Reply #577727

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sizes fans can complain all they won't. You are in the playoffs this year but no new to get all emotional. Take a chill pill.


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Wildcats80
Last year
19:28 14 Feb 16

Reply #577728

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

You ARENT. In the playoffs


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Hendo8888
Last year
19:28 14 Feb 16

Reply #577729

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Want a mulligan on that post Wildcats80?


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:30 14 Feb 16

Reply #577730

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

6ers only 4 attempted 3s for the half!
Lol


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Anonymous
Last year
19:30 14 Feb 16

Reply #577731

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Timberball not happy Adelaide is giving back what they have dished out for years.. Poor little Pettles those Perth fans.. Feeling so sorry for you all... NNNOOOTTTT...Go hard Sixers..


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Luuuc
Last year
19:32 14 Feb 16

Reply #577732

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

And I thought this game would be a run of the mill snoozefest.
This is fun


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Anonymous
Last year
19:33 14 Feb 16

Reply #577733

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

When will the Perth fans get their own site... maybe your sugardaddy can buy you one.... My daddys richer than yours... No my daddy is... Meanwhile we keep playing under points and cap and tonight push you hard, doing it for the underdogs.


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TimberBall
Last year
19:41 14 Feb 16

Reply #577734

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Same rules for us, people just want to play in Perth for the for the crowd and city. It's ok though, one day a key player might want to play in your shed in front of the 4 people who's Centrelink payments are high enough to afford a ticket...or can you trade in food stamps now? To be honest I just thought they'd give them away to make it seem full


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:46 14 Feb 16

Reply #577735

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

^^^ lol

Entertaining on court and the forum!


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Hendo8888
Last year
19:49 14 Feb 16

Reply #577736

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Joey should have benched Gibson 25 games ago.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:50 14 Feb 16

Reply #577737

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

DJ is a pile of poo


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:54 14 Feb 16

Reply #577738

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Randle is putting up too many shots. Perth look home here.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:00 14 Feb 16

Reply #577739

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

What is the points difference for perth from the 1st half's and second half's? Almost every game this season it seems they dominate games after the first half's


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ROFLcopter
Last year
20:09 14 Feb 16

Reply #577741

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Wow, D Martin just pulled Teys pants down on that play.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:13 14 Feb 16

Reply #577742

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

36ers have no answer for Greg Hire :p


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Anonymous
Last year
20:17 14 Feb 16

Reply #577744

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Thought they might come out and make a statement tonight.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:20 14 Feb 16

Reply #577745

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Why are dead rubber NBL games more entertaining when the ones with everyone on the line? lmao NBL styles


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Anonymous
Last year
20:20 14 Feb 16

Reply #577746

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

"than the ones" it should read


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Luuuc
Last year
20:20 14 Feb 16

Reply #577747

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

LOL @ Randle coming back in garbage time once Martin was out


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Anonymous
Last year
20:20 14 Feb 16

Reply #577748

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

everything on the line


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Anonymous
Last year
20:21 14 Feb 16

Reply #577751

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Sixers get smashed.... again.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:24 14 Feb 16

Reply #577752

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Perth finish top of ladder with 105.53% points percentage vs 101.80% Melb Utd. But for playoff seed you split a tie with head to head only and it went 3-1 to Melbourne.

Should have not tanked vs Kings!


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Luuuc
Last year
20:25 14 Feb 16

Reply #577753

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Wonder what Jawai's +/- was today


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Anonymous
Last year
20:31 14 Feb 16

Reply #577755

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

in calories?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:31 14 Feb 16

Reply #577756

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

in daily calorie intake?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:41 14 Feb 16

Reply #577757

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Rundle the chucker


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Anonymous
Last year
20:44 14 Feb 16

Reply #577758

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Biggest crowd of season for Perth with 12139 according to wildcats facebook. Utd had 10200 as well to tie their best for season with the Boxing Day open air game. NBL where the biggest crowds come in dead rubbers LOL


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Anonymous
Last year
20:47 14 Feb 16

Reply #577759

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Don't tell the Perth fans about taking and missing out on 1st spot.


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koberulz
Last year
20:59 14 Feb 16

Reply #577761

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

"Perth finish top of ladder with 105.53% points percentage vs 101.80% Melb Utd. But for playoff seed you split a tie with head to head only and it went 3-1 to Melbourne."

Continuing to insist this is true doesn't make it so.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:00 14 Feb 16

Reply #577764

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

It's always been that way.

Overall ladder in a tie is based on points percentage if tied.

Only head to head/mini league is used to split teams for PLAYOFF SEEDING purposes.

For a NBL nerd you really don't know your stuff.

Check the media guides.


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Hendo8888
Last year
21:02 14 Feb 16

Reply #577766

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Or, you know, everyone else is right and you're the only one who is wrong. That's the more likely explanation.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:05 14 Feb 16

Reply #577767

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Splits are only used for playoff seedings, not general ladder position.

Overall ladder is between all eight teams so whoever has higher points % is top.

You can't split two teams in isolation and then apply it to the whole table.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:06 14 Feb 16

Reply #577768

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Anyway at the end of the day Wildcats who like to go on about their winning culture and "Wildcats basketball" (whatever that means) threw away home court advantage in a game against the cellar dwellers they could have easily won.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
21:21 14 Feb 16

Reply #577771

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Except that United would've turned up to play and gotten a win.


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koberulz
Last year
21:21 14 Feb 16

Reply #577772

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Splits are only used for playoff seedings, not general ladder position.

No.

Overall ladder is between all eight teams so whoever has higher points % is top.

No.

You can't split two teams in isolation and then apply it to the whole table.

What on earth does that even mean?


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Jack Toft
Last year
21:25 14 Feb 16

Reply #577773

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

"Should have not tanked vs Kings!"
Minor Premiership.....so near, yet so far...


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Flea
Last year
22:16 14 Feb 16

Reply #577778

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

6ers +/- for tonight...

Petrie +2
Hodgson -3
Walker -3
Sobey -4
Teys -7
Ere -11
Creek -12
Gibson -18
Johnson -18

Final totals for the season...
Creek +53
Randle +47
Johnson +32
Teys +7
Sobey +3
Johns +3
Petrie 0
Larkins -3
McNeail -6
Hodgson -7
Carlin -14
Ere -16
Walker -41
Gibson -80

Will try to put together some 5 man unit results in the next few days.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:04 14 Feb 16

Reply #577786

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

NZ is beating the United and Perth is beating the Hawks. We will have a GF series of two dirty physical teams beating eachother up to the death.


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AyJay
Last year
23:31 14 Feb 16

Reply #577789

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

"The TV news reported Gibbo signing up on a $200K/yr contract with Brisbane next year".

Hey Jack

Assuming he doesn't plan to work any harder than this season, it must be spot in the Brisbane Public Service!


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Anonymous
Last year
23:37 14 Feb 16

Reply #577790

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Watch it all at a sports bar near you. Will be hard to tell the diff between MMA and NBL though.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
23:50 14 Feb 16

Reply #577792

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

MACDUB is one of those guys who predicts or posts what he wishes may happen, or has happened. No matter how much you hate the Wildcats, Creek deliberately locked legs with Redhage. It was the most obvious call of the season.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:57 14 Feb 16

Reply #577797

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Don't agree, he was shoved, deopped to the floor, his left ankle was rotated so he simply straightened it. And Redhage continued to put in the act. what else was Creek supposed to do sitting on his butt with his legs in the air.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:59 14 Feb 16

Reply #577799

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Damos defene was 1st class. The guy is a defensive monster.


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Luuuc
Last year
00:03 15 Feb 16

Reply #577800

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Ever since Randle engaged beast mode in this league I've been looking forward to seeing how he went against Damo. Was worth the wait.
Don't know if it was on the tv telecast but in his brief trophy acceptance speech Damo singled the ant man as an extra tough cover.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:11 15 Feb 16

Reply #577802

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Tough cover or not damo took him to school


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Anonymous
Last year
00:34 15 Feb 16

Reply #577806

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

That leg lock happened right in front of me and it looked blatant as anything I've seen live. Haven't watched the replay yet but from what I saw, creek deliberately tried to trip up redhage and got caught out


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
01:08 15 Feb 16

Reply #577812

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Na, the refs need to show some leeway to players rotating their ankles. If your ankles aren't straightened immediately then who knows what might happen.


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Dazz
Last year
01:49 15 Feb 16

Reply #577815

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

It's an interesting application of game-theory...

Cat's took a calculated risk not flying 3 sore players to Sydney. Had we not done that, and won, then we have to assume that MU don't rest their players, and presumably they manage to win at least one game against NZ, so would have made no difference.

Conceptually, Perth may have been "top of the table" for an instant, but really not since the season finished with their victory.
At that point the rules regarding FINAL placings come into effect. Not that the rules refer to final placings NOT just the play-offs, so the final placings have MU on top.

At the end of the day, the Cats banked too heavily on their "easy run home." They gave up sloppy wins on the road, and when it comes right down to it, the game they NEEDED to win was their final home game against MU. THAT was the play-off for first spot, and MU won.


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koberulz
Last year
02:18 15 Feb 16

Reply #577818

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

It's always been that way.

Overall ladder in a tie is based on points percentage if tied.

Only head to head/mini league is used to split teams for PLAYOFF SEEDING purposes.

For a NBL nerd you really don't know your stuff.

Check the media guides.

Just to make sure I was being entirely fair, I followed your suggestion and looked at the most recent media guide I had access to, 2013.



Ready to concede yet?


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Dazz
Last year
05:03 15 Feb 16

Reply #577819

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Oh FFS:

61. NBL Ladder

61.1. Placings on the NBL Ladder during the Season

61.1.1.
The positions on the ladder during the regular season shall be determined by the ratio of games won over games played.

61.1.2.
Should two or more teams be tied with the same winning percentage during the regular season they shall be ranked by the number produced by dividing total points scored against into total points scored for.

61.2.
Final Placings at the End of the Home and Away Season

61.2.1.
Positions on the ladder will be determined by the ratio of games won over games played.

61.2.2.
Should two or more teams be tied on game winning
percentage at the conclusion of the home and away fixture, final placings shall be determined by the win/loss ratio in only those games played between the tied teams.

61.2.3.
Should there still remain a
tie; rankings shall be determined by the difference between the total points scored for and against each team in only those games played between the tied teams.

61.2.4.
If teams still remain tied, rankings shall be determined by the points for over the points against percentages for the entire season


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koberulz
Last year
05:22 15 Feb 16

Reply #577821

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

I have no idea where you're quoting from, but it still agrees with me, so I'm not sure what the point even is.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:38 15 Feb 16

Reply #577826

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

The poor injured Damo flew to Sydney. Clearly very beat up and in need of a rest like the other 2. Hope he enjoys his new kix


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
09:17 15 Feb 16

Reply #577829

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Damo tweaked his ankle in the Sydney game in Perth, and hobbled off at one point, but not until he has chased down a loose ball and cut his knee.

Considering his career form with injury, particularly coming back to early or taking the risk to play but then making the injury worse, then it made sense to rest him.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:22 15 Feb 16

Reply #577841

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

Resting him by flying all the way to Sydney and back is a joke.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
10:25 15 Feb 16

Reply #577843

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

He was rested by not playing. Why is it "a joke"? What difference does it make whether he joined the team or not?


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Anonymous
Last year
10:48 15 Feb 16

Reply #577851

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

If he is genuinely injured the last thing he needs to be doing is flying across australia twice. But you wouldn't understand that.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
10:52 15 Feb 16

Reply #577852

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

The decision to rest him was probably more precautionary than anything. I don't think flying would have mattered that much in his case.

The other injuries obviously made those players less suitable for flying.

Why do you have such an issue with him travelling?


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Anonymous
Last year
10:59 15 Feb 16

Reply #577853

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

He had a supposed ankle injury. If true he shouldn't be flying.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:28 15 Feb 16

Reply #577956

re: Wildcats v Sixers, Feb 14

"It's an interesting application of game-theory..."

Nice analysis of the final week Dazz. Present it to the Wildcats organisation and they would be scratching their heads over the concept of game theory. :P


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