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Dazz
Last year

#39054

Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

I'm glad that Lisch is apparently not so seriously injured. Whether he plays or not, it bodes well for an early recovery.

It's strange, when talking about the league MVP, but I don't think he is the biggest factor. Perth won during the regular season against Lisch, and yesterday we saw the Hawks win comfortably without him.

This may also seem strange, but the way they are playing I would rather see the Cats bow out in the semis. They were flat early in game one, and but for the loss of Lisch and the usual (in Perth) last quarter fade by the Hawks, things could have been different. They were similarly flat for large patches of game two. They don't look like a team ready to win a championship. My concern is that losing a GF series would be "acceptable" but I hope losing in the semis would trigger some soul-searching. It's not what I ant to see, I want to see the Cats step up and play like championship contenders.

Players need to step up in finals. We saw a few Hawks do it yesterday, but nobody really has for Perth. Martin I'd say did in game one, Jawai (for whatever reasons) has gone backwards, others are basically playing at the same level. Prather & Beal are great players, but unless they really go to town they can't carry the team.

What really concerns me is that in the other series, we saw the advantage of seasoned finals campaigners. Where is THAT for Perth? The bulk of this team won a title two seasons ago, and the core has played in 4 GF's in the past 6 years. Yet they were outplayed by the newcomers.

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ROFLcopter
Last year
20:35 22 Feb 16

Reply #579735

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Really looking forward to this. My Friday night will be scheduled around it :-)

I don't consider Beal a great player.

I expect Perth to win but want the Hawks to get it done.


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Dazz
Last year
20:44 22 Feb 16

Reply #579738

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"Great" admittedly is a relative term. He's not in the Kevin Lisch or James Ennis category.
I just mean that they are two of our best players and so often get the job done, but unless they have a blinder its not enough without others stepping up.
I have been disappointed so far with Redhage. I was really hoping the old warhorse would step it up like Forman & Vukona come finals time.


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Larry 33
Last year
08:16 23 Feb 16

Reply #579758

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I know Perth are supremely confident of winning on Friday (even heard rumours they're talking about selling grand final tickets already?) but this game is gettable for the Hawks, even without Lisch.

In game 1, they lost Lisch early and had to make in-game adjustments. They were obviously better at making the adjustment in game 2.

Also, in game 1, despite losing Lisch, they were 10 points down with about a minute-and-a-half to go. However, in that game, Penney shot 2/9 3s, Rhys shot 1/4, a few shot 0/1.

If Penney had hit 2 more (to take him up to his season average) and a couple of others had dropped, then that lead with a minute-and-a-half to go disappears and its a different game. Hypothetical, I know, but the difference between shots dropping and not was the difference in the result (obviously!). And most of the shots that missed were good shots - they were quite makeable.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
09:48 23 Feb 16

Reply #579768

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

" (even heard rumours they're talking about selling grand final tickets already?)"

To whom?


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Bear
Last year
11:43 23 Feb 16

Reply #579787

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

If the Hawks come to play with the same intensity and attitude they showed at home in game two, it is game on!

Looking forward to this and the final series...


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Jack Toft
Last year
12:39 23 Feb 16

Reply #579795

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Massive, massive game. It's been a pretty exciting season with a lot of interesting games (yes there has been some boring ones too for those "glass half empty" people)

Everyone's second team, the Hawks, travel to take on everyone's most disliked team, the Cats. It's the stuff of legend this game and if I were Cat's players and officials, I'ld be going with the browns jocks on Friday, and maybe bring a second pair just in case as I think this is going down to the wire.

The Hawks have lost 22 in a row in Perth and that can only mean one thing - a win is coming up. The Cats should have left them get a win during the minor rounds. Now, the pressure is on the Cats as the voodoo is very much up to be broken, and these kinds of voodoos in sport always seem to happen during finals.

The Hawks looked pretty good on the weekend and the Cats looked pretty average. It's almost as if they wanted a third game to get some revenue for the club. Momentum is with the Hawks and this should be a red, red flag to the Cats.

The long awaited tussle between Martin and Lisch may have to wait next season.

If the Hawks were smart, they'll bring over Saville and Campbell as well as the Old Red Fox. Imagine the inspirational speech those boys would give in the locker room. The Hawks would be walking barefoot on hot coals and the Cats could be throwing darts at them and they wouldn't hurt.

I'm going with the Hawks to put the Cat in the bag.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:18 23 Feb 16

Reply #579809

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"I know Perth are supremely confident of winning on Friday (even heard rumours they're talking about selling grand final tickets already?)"

It reminds me of the Tigers wheeling out the championship trophy in the fourth quarter of a Game 4 then wheeling it away when the Kings made an epic comeback to win. GF 07 or 08 I believe.


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Dazz
Last year
14:16 23 Feb 16

Reply #579843

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Hardly.
I imagine both teams have contingency plans for selling GF tickets. Just as everyone makes plans for game 3.


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Dazz
Last year
14:20 23 Feb 16

Reply #579844

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I am really hoping for big things from this game.
The Cats have plenty of time to recover, analyse, and plan. They are the better team, and should win. They just need to get their shit together and start playing like they deserve another championship. Haven't seen that so far this series, hence why I am hoping for a massive turnaround.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:42 23 Feb 16

Reply #579849

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Perth are definitely not selling GF tickets, at least not general admission or to members. They may be contacting those who purchase corporate boxes as they have been selling them for single games this finals, as opposed to "one in, all in" in previous years.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:56 23 Feb 16

Reply #579860

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

If the cats don't defend the pick and roll the wildcats loose.

Beal and Jawai playing defence on a pick and roll is easy money for any team this season.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:12 23 Feb 16

Reply #579865

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I don't feel the Cats are clearly the better team. They have home court but they are not as good as some think. They have no true go to scorers so it's all about their defence. Problem is, the Hawks can make any defence look very ordinary. Hoping for the Hawks to win this one and have a real interest in the GF series!


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Dazz
Last year
15:21 23 Feb 16

Reply #579866

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I don't feel the Cats are clearly the better team. They have home court but they are not as good as some think. They have no true go to scorers so it's all about their defence.
Disagree.
I have (naturally) watched every Cats game this season (some multiple times.) If they play to their potential, (as shown during the season) they will BURY the Hawks.
Not only are they a strong defensive team, they have great depth, and several scoring options.

Problem is that they have not played to anywhere near their potential this series, and in game two Hawks played out of their skins and shredded the Perth defence. If that happens again the Hawks will go really close to a win.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:40 23 Feb 16

Reply #579871

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Any NBL team if they play at their potential could win any game, so that's not really a strong point for me. I don't think they have the scoring punch needed to go head to head with the Hawks in any gym IF the Hawks can make some wary 3's and set a tone.


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Dazz
Last year
16:09 23 Feb 16

Reply #579877

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I'm talking about demonstrated potential, as in how they played this season (at home). Which is not an unreasonable proposition.
They have demolished the Hawks three times in Perth this season. I'm not suggesting that such a performance is automatic, far from it, I'm worried.
But they have shown that they can bury the best teams, including the Hawks.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:22 23 Feb 16

Reply #579881

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Dazz the Hawks have also demonstrated they can demolish the best in the league. If Lisch is in fact back I'm thinking its time for the torch to be passed, can see the Hawks winning a memorable one, shooting the Cats out of the gym.


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TimberBall
Last year
21:05 23 Feb 16

Reply #579945

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Agree Dazz, if Perth play at their top form no one can run with them, however if the hawks get thier eye in from 3 and the cats D is off (like the 3rd qtr in game 2) this could be ugly again. Larry33, cats fans are most certainly not 'supremely confident', we've been pumped in 2 of our last 4 games. I think we'll win...but don't ask me to put money on it.


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Dazz
Last year
22:20 23 Feb 16

Reply #579952

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

The Hawks and Cats have played 6 times this season.
The three games in Perth were all easy wins to the Cats.
The games in the Gong netted two close wins to the Cats and one easy win to the Hawks.

Based on that record, this should be another easy win for the Cats, and if they get their shit together it will be. I'm sorry, but ONE game in the Gong does not constitute a new reality. Sunday's game is no basis for predicting a win on Friday.
As I've said, I don't fully understand why road games are so tough, but the Cats have been ordinary on the road, and almost unstoppable in Perth. That is the reality.

IF we make the GF, I am nervous about facing NZ, because I can't remember the last time we won there. But I'm sure it's NOT a ten year losing streak!

I am not "supremely confident." As I have repeatedly said, Jawai seems injured, Perth were flat at the start of game 1, our defence was shredded in game 2, and we have lost our ascendancy on the boards. I am HOPING we play like championship aspirants on Friday and reverse these deficiencies. If we do, we will win. If we don't, we won't.


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Anonymous
Last year
08:50 24 Feb 16

Reply #579985

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I wouldn't be confident either. And I wouldn't be basing any of current confidence on any of the season matches. Those games weed along time back and mean nothing compared to the now. The last 2 is all that I'd be focussing on, and they show that game 3 will be no walk in the park for the unbeatable Cats.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:03 24 Feb 16

Reply #580010

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Hawks at home v Hawks on the road are 2 completely different animals.

Especially without Lisch.


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mystro
Last year
13:40 24 Feb 16

Reply #580031

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - game 3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Even if Lisch plays how effective is he going to be playing on a dodgy ankle?

Wildcats Vs Breakers Final is what I am expecting.


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Bear
Last year
14:32 24 Feb 16

Reply #580036

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

If there is one thing I have learned about this NBL season, it is that we need to expect the unexpected...


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Anonymous
Last year
14:38 24 Feb 16

Reply #580039

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Mystro to answer that, would you be comfortable leaving him wide open on the perimeter? If you say yes, then sure he is a liability, if no, then that helps the Hawks a lot. This is there for the Hawks to make some legit noise, think the cats lack of offense is going to be exposed. Can't wait for this one!


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Dazz
Last year
16:18 24 Feb 16

Reply #580063

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

So we shouldn't base anything on reality?
So the Hawks will obviously win, then win the GF in 2, because they won ONE game? Get Real.

If you want to talk about recent? Umm OK, Hawks recently played in Perth. Perth slept through the first quarter, then rolled the Hawks like a cheap fag.

I'm not "confident" of a Cats win, but neither should anybody be so "confident" of a Hawks win...


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Anonymous
Last year
16:19 24 Feb 16

Reply #580064

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

If Perth has any pride they will come out breathing fire after that display of poor defence and lack of energy in the second half of Sunday's outing.They looked dis-interested .


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Anonymous
Last year
16:42 24 Feb 16

Reply #580068

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

No one can predict what will happen that's why they play the games on court not on paper. So all your aruging is for nothing. Sometimes trends continue sometimes they get broken.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:42 24 Feb 16

Reply #580069

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

In other words: time will tell.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:45 24 Feb 16

Reply #580071

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Did Penney play the last regular season game in Perth? Because without him that kinda makes that regular season game pretty pointless to go off. But like the above anon said its sports anything can happen, Dazz I just like your reactions sometimes, your a passionate thread master ;)


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Bolo Yeung
Last year
18:00 24 Feb 16

Reply #580090

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"The Penney will drop in Game 3" - Matt Knight


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Wilson Sting
Last year
21:47 24 Feb 16

Reply #580118

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

The only reason I have any remaining interest in the NBL at this stage of the season is because the Hawks are there. If it is a Perth-NZ GF I'll be tuning out.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:51 25 Feb 16

Reply #580169

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Dazz makes a good point about taking a step back and looking at the overall body of work. But there is just'something' about this Hawks team which has cats fans worried. Perhaps it is the lisch and bevo factor


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Train
Last year
11:54 25 Feb 16

Reply #580170

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"The only reason I have any remaining interest in the NBL at this stage of the season is because the Hawks are there. If it is a Perth-NZ GF I'll be tuning out."

Just out of curiosity Wilson, is that because your sick of seeing a Perth V NZ final, or you don't particularly like either of those teams?

From memory there have been some cracker games between Perth V NZ games in recent times. Not sure why any fan of the game would tune out for those games.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
12:00 25 Feb 16

Reply #580172

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"But there is just'something' about this Hawks team which has cats fans worried. Perhaps it is the lisch and bevo factor"

Its just the fact they are a really good team who had a great second half to the season.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:03 25 Feb 16

Reply #580183

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

And like mentioned old household names coming into the cats building and knocking them out. The script is perfectly written! Hawks once they got Martin back were always going to be a legit contender, now even with Lisch questionable they are there.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:01 25 Feb 16

Reply #580184

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

The names are irrelevant. I don't care whether its Lisch and Bevo, or some names with no links to the club, we just don't want to lose and there is a decent chance of that happening.


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Bolo Yeung
Last year
14:08 25 Feb 16

Reply #580186

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Wildcats will win, don't be silly.

The chances of the Hawks owning the Cats twice and Coenraad and Forman going off again? Unlikely.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:22 25 Feb 16

Reply #580187

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

The names aren't irrelevant to everyone Chalmers. That is simply your own opinion. Lisch a former MVP for the club and now current MVP for another club also being coached by a guy who coached a title in WA, I'd say their are a lot of cats fans that are conferenced purely based on what they know more than others what those names can produce.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:23 25 Feb 16

Reply #580189

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Concerned is the word I was after there not conferenced!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:26 25 Feb 16

Reply #580190

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Sorry, I thought you were saying that Cats fans would be more upset to lose to a team with a former player/coach than another team. I was just saying that I don't want to lose to anyone.


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Wilson Sting
Last year
14:32 25 Feb 16

Reply #580192

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Train, I think it's a combination of the schedule going weird at this time of year (why have a big rush between games 1 and 2 but then a decent break till game 3), a little bit of sick of Perth vs NZ (it's always nice to see an outsider in finals in any sport) and a lot of I just don't like Perth (this is more about not liking Redhage, Hire and Wagstaff, and the leniency afforded to Damien Martin - the Wildcats franchise themselves I have a great deal of respect for).

Plus I'm a cheapskate so only watch the FTA games or attend home games, so with the Taipans out that only means watching the one FTA game a week.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:44 25 Feb 16

Reply #580194

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Lisch trained properly for the first time, so looks like he will be playing. This game has capabilities to be huge for the NBL, from a spectacle point of view.


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Isaac
Last year
15:14 25 Feb 16

Reply #580202

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Lisch saying he's a better than 50% chance of playing.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:16 25 Feb 16

Reply #580203

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Brilliant news for the Hawks, if they go down swinging, at worst you want to go down with your best guys swinging for the win.


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PeterJohn
Last year
16:27 25 Feb 16

Reply #580229

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

"why have a big rush between games 1 and 2 but then a decent break till game 3"

I thought it was just me that felt like the 5 day break between games killed the finals' momentum. 4 games in 4 days then almost a full week off? I wonder how many sport fans who were watching NBL finals up to Sunday will switch over to the AFL pre season games? Those games will resume tonight after a 4 day break.


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Isaac
Last year
18:07 25 Feb 16

Reply #580238

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I think they aim for week end games where possible. The first four games ran Thurs-Sun.

If it gives Lisch time to get fit and make this a series contest, then no one should complain!

(I do think Perth will smack them though regardless of Lisch playing. But I hope they won't.)


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:16 25 Feb 16

Reply #580240

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

The GF dates are....packed into 5 days!!

I hope Hawks get the win here. They are everyone's 2nd team this year. What is not to love about Lisch!


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Dazz
Last year
18:32 25 Feb 16

Reply #580242

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Meh, have to except that in practically any game non-Perth fans want Perth to lose. It's a weird psychological condition, you could probably write a book on it, but it is what it is, I have stopped trying to understand it.
As for this being some massive spectacle, and a game for the ages, I think the 5 day break (and no g3 in the other series) is making people bored. It's a game. An important outcome is no guarantee that the game itself will be anything special.
Knowing Perth, there's a reasonable chance it will be a defensive brawl.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:11 25 Feb 16

Reply #580246

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Take Flophage, Wagshit, Hire and that dumbs hit court announcer out of the Wildcats and I think everyone likes them.....oh, and a few different songs during their games wouldn't hurt either. Lol

#sameeveryweek


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koberulz
Last year
19:18 25 Feb 16

Reply #580247

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

I hope Hawks get the win here. They are everyone's 2nd team this year.
Did you bother to consult anyone, much less everyone, before saying that, or are you just making it up?

I'd wager the only place Illawarra is the second team of even most people is Townsville.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:56 25 Feb 16

Reply #580260

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Well they've certainly been my 2nd team for several years.

Awesome to read that Lisch is a real chance of playing.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:18 25 Feb 16

Reply #580262

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Better than 50% means he shouldn't play.
It's game 3. Let's hope he isn't a liability.


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Dazz
Last year
21:18 25 Feb 16

Reply #580263

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Yes, I understand. If we stopped being good at baketball, and stopped making the finals, then after 20 years of "haha yooz d-serve it cos Perf suks," people might get over it...

Well at least we don't use a two-syllable chant for a monosyllable name. When Wollongong start chanting for the Whore-Orks, it conjures up really alarming images.

And for the record, the only place where the Hawks are "everybody's second team" is Wollongong.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:31 25 Feb 16

Reply #580266

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Sorry Dazz. That should be Illawarra. Douche.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
21:55 25 Feb 16

Reply #580271

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

Lol

I'll wager of the 5 teams out of contention that the majority of fans want the Hawks to take the chocolates this year.


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Anonymous
Last year
07:38 26 Feb 16

Reply #580299

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

No koberulz most people I've spoken with in the know besides your own knowledgeable self say the Hawks are their team always have been. Weird but true. Dazz with the amount of stuff you post on here your should be 10 books in! Problem for the cats is you mix in such players like Redhage and wagstaff in with a arrogant fan base that has always rebutted everyone about everything on such media sources as this and your going to cop the hate. Deal with it boys. Go Hawks go!!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
08:03 26 Feb 16

Reply #580300

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

If you don't like people rebutting you, don't talk so much shit. Deal with it.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
08:27 26 Feb 16

Reply #580301

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - Friday 26th 6:30pm

lol


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Vic Wildcat
Last year
10:56 26 Feb 16

Reply #580313

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

This ain't going to be easy Lisch or no Lisch. They have some serious shooters. The key for the Wildcats is to get Foreman into foul trouble as he has to play as a big. He cannot shoot three's if he's on the bench, plus means Coneraad has to then play tall inside.

Wildcats have been up and down this year, so who knows which team will turn up.

Defensively Martin has to go to Penny if Lisch isn't out there. I'd think about it even if he is. Prather has shown he cannot go with him. Let him take Martin or a less than 100% Lisch. Penny is good at drawing the foul, and Martin is a bit smarter and also his defensive history as best defensive player numerous times gives him more leeway it seems :).


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Anonymous
Last year
13:11 26 Feb 16

Reply #580328

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Lisch past his fitness test at Warrick Stadium this morning. Will play tonight.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:11 26 Feb 16

Reply #580330

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

*passed


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Caps Fan
Last year
13:24 26 Feb 16

Reply #580331

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"
"I know Perth are supremely confident of winning on Friday (even heard rumours they're talking about selling grand final tickets already?)"

It reminds me of the Tigers wheeling out the championship trophy in the fourth quarter of a Game 4 then wheeling it away when the Kings made an epic comeback to win. GF 07 or 08 I believe. "

not as big a fail as when Graf had the caps spent over $10,000 on several thousand "Three peat Dynasty' T-shirts .


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Aussie
Last year
13:51 26 Feb 16

Reply #580333

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Does anyone know approximately how many tickets have been sold for tonight's game at Perth Arena so far?


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MACDUB
Last year
14:00 26 Feb 16

Reply #580334

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Who wins?

Depends on how the referees referee the game.

And I don't mean in terms of bias/favouring one team.

I mean as in whether they call the game tightly or allow a free-flowing game.

If it's called as a tight, stop-start game, then Perth will, IMO, win in a canter as it suits their style.

If it's free flowing, up and down with minimal referee intervention, I will lean towards the Hawks.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:06 26 Feb 16

Reply #580336

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

*sigh*

http://www.hoops.com.au/forum/39071-game-tempo-in-wildcats-hawks-series/#p580308


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Thunder Jam
Last year
14:16 26 Feb 16

Reply #580340

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"Does anyone know approximately how many tickets have been sold for tonight's game at Perth Arena so far?"

It would want to be plenty more than game 1.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:27 26 Feb 16

Reply #580344

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

WILDCATS are not selling GF tickets, whoever are suggesting this are seriously fixated about the wildcats and want to create any negativity towards them.

Some may find below arrogant, but those who know, its good management, you have to preplan and stay ahead or you will be left behind. Note it says SHOULD and IF.

Dear Member,
Should our Perth Wildcats be victorious in tonight's game they will progress to the 2016 Swisse NBL Grand Final Series, and game one of the series will be played at Perth Arena on Wednesday 2 March with tip-off at 6:30pm.
Priority access for members to purchase tickets to this game will go on sale immediately after tonight’s do-or-die game (approximately 8:30pm WST) if the Wildcats win. Please note that with the short turn around in fixtures, this priority period will strictly close at 12noon this Sunday 28 February.
Further information on purchasing tickets to the Grand Final Series will be emailed to you tonight should the Perth Wildcats qualify.
Membership staff will be on hand at Perth Arena tonight at the front of Granite Room to assist anyone wishing to purchase their Grand Final game one tickets immediately after the game. Support staff can also be contacted at the Perth Wildcats office on 6272 0777, 9am - 5pm on Saturday and 9am – 12noon Sunday if the Perth Wildcats qualify.
Cheer loudly at tonight’s game and help the Perth Wildcats get to another NBL Grand Final!


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:30 26 Feb 16

Reply #580346

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Apparently the Ticketek website had the GF game 1 blurb up after SF game 2, instead of the SF game 3. Obviously that was the doing of Nick Marvin and his never-ending arrogance so we must thank Boti for pointing this out to us because he is always impartial when discussing them.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:30 26 Feb 16

Reply #580347

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

OMG they're already talking grand finals at the Wildcats. Arrogant!!!!


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MACDUB
Last year
14:35 26 Feb 16

Reply #580350

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Yes i recall a picture on ATF.net showing a blurb describing that Perth had made it to another GF appearance.

Was that not the doing of Perth (i.e. a third party error)? - genuine question.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:37 26 Feb 16

Reply #580352

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

That was a ticketek.com.au stuff-up. Not the Wildcats.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:39 26 Feb 16

Reply #580353

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

They would have had two blurbs to go with - a GF game 1, or a SF game 3. Somehow, the wrong blurb got sent to Ticketek, or posted by Ticketek. You'd assume it was human error somewhere long the line, not a deliberate act as if them making the GF was a foregone conclusion.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
14:41 26 Feb 16

Reply #580354

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

That is to say, even if the error was caused by someone from the club sending through the wrong details, its not the big deal that people would have you believe.


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LV
Last year
14:41 26 Feb 16

Reply #580355

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Illawarra, let's do this. Come on!


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Anonymous
Last year
14:51 26 Feb 16

Reply #580359

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

WILDCATS are not selling GF tickets, whoever are suggesting this are seriously fixated about the wildcats and want to create any negativity towards them.

Some may find below arrogant, but those who know, its good management, you have to preplan and stay ahead or you will be left behind. Note it says SHOULD and IF.

Dear Member,
Should our Perth Wildcats be victorious in tonight's game they will progress to the 2016 Swisse NBL Grand Final Series, and game one of the series will be played at Perth Arena on Wednesday 2 March with tip-off at 6:30pm.
Priority access for members to purchase tickets to this game will go on sale immediately after tonight’s do-or-die game (approximately 8:30pm WST) if the Wildcats win. Please note that with the short turn around in fixtures, this priority period will strictly close at 12noon this Sunday 28 February.
Further information on purchasing tickets to the Grand Final Series will be emailed to you tonight should the Perth Wildcats qualify.
Membership staff will be on hand at Perth Arena tonight at the front of Granite Room to assist anyone wishing to purchase their Grand Final game one tickets immediately after the game. Support staff can also be contacted at the Perth Wildcats office on 6272 0777, 9am - 5pm on Saturday and 9am – 12noon Sunday if the Perth Wildcats qualify.
Cheer loudly at tonight’s game and help the Perth Wildcats get to another NBL Grand Final!


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Luuuc
Last year
16:02 26 Feb 16

Reply #580378

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Wow, Boti is still going on about it

"Is tonight the night? Does Illawarra leave its consecutive losses in Perth at Jordan's famous number ? (23 ... not 45) Or will the Wildcats’ premature announcement of playing for their seventh NBL title prove prophetic?"


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Anonymous
Last year
16:13 26 Feb 16

Reply #580381

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"not as big a fail as when Graf had the caps spent over $10,000 on several thousand "Three peat Dynasty' T-shirts ."

HAHAHA Graf is such a douche!


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Luuuc
Last year
16:39 26 Feb 16

Reply #580393

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Hi,
Jaimee Rogers here with the latest NBL odds.

Hawks price has come in from > $3 since the good Lisch news but they're still reasonable value in a 2 horse race.

Wildcats $1.42
Hawks $2.88
Margin -5.5 points
Over/Under: 168.5

Good luck and I hope you back a winner.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:08 26 Feb 16

Reply #580396

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Thanks Jamieee


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Anonymous
Last year
17:13 26 Feb 16

Reply #580398

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Chalmers you would rebut at your own funeral your that infuriating. Can't imagine how much of a tool of a know it all you would've been in a class room! God I hope the Hawks win, just for the fan base on here that tries to dominate every thread alone.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:17 26 Feb 16

Reply #580400

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Yeah, Cats fans, stop commenting in the threads about Cats game and Cats issues. Anon said so.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:17 26 Feb 16

Reply #580401

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Chalmers Jamiee is spelt with 2 'E's' not 3 as you posted above. Just correcting you on this.


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Reply #580402

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

As a born and bred west aussie, I too hope the Hawks get up - And that's not because Bevo made me sign up to be a Member at the start of the year haha!

Wildcats fans are quickly becoming the West Coast 'Chardonnay Club' Eagles type supporters of the NBL - Arrogant, Cocky yet don't give any opposition teams half the respect they deserve. Be nice to see some of the users on here (SC comes to mind...) eat some humble pie and see if they can refrain from blaming the refs, the commentators, the sound system at Perth Arena, the poor teenager on the food stand charging you way too much for nowhere near enough for the price chips... And just say "Hey, we lost to the better team." And if not tonight, then in a weeks time when the Breakers WILL win it if the Cats do make it that far.


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Supernintendo Chalmers
Last year
17:20 26 Feb 16

Reply #580403

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

No but Luuuc is spelt with 3 'U's' and as he posted it, I added the extra 'e' to the name Jamiee.

I can't imagine you made much of an impact in the classroom.


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Luuuc
Last year
17:45 26 Feb 16

Reply #580408

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Oh [email protected].. what tripe. "lost to the better team" LOL! The Wildcats are the better team. That is already established. So IF we lose, which we won't, it can only be due to other factors outside the team's control. Or alternatively, match fixing. But that seems unlikely. And btw I would never blame the high price of the chips for a Wildcats loss. The two are not connected. The chips price is what ruins the whole game night experience. Costing us wins lies squarely at the feet of the corrupt refs. Duhh.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:02 26 Feb 16

Reply #580412

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Hawks by 12, and it will be glorious.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:22 26 Feb 16

Reply #580415

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

I can't wait for this.

Fuck, it's going to be huge.


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Touch the rim
Last year
18:23 26 Feb 16

Reply #580416

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

*Generic angry and antagonistic post*


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Anonymous
Last year
18:29 26 Feb 16

Reply #580417

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

^That is pretty much the way all Cats related posts go, or threads that Cats related types decide to get involved in and belittle everyone...


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Anonymous
Last year
18:40 26 Feb 16

Reply #580426

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Cats fan here and really turned off the team when online reading up on NBL because Perth supporters are so rude and arrogant. But come to think of it most of the city of Perth are like that with rude and non respectful bogans so I shouldn't be surprised.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:43 26 Feb 16

Reply #580428

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Careful Chalmers will hunt you down and copy paste you until you change your opinion and believe they are all modest! It reminds of the Yankees and Pies in the AFL, the players are one thing the team is another, the fan bases are the reason you love seeing those teams lose, they have nothing else happening i guess, and are so obsessed with their team, they rip into anyone who dare argues their superiority.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:49 26 Feb 16

Reply #580431

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Perth is a boring city no doubt which adds to the seriousness with which the ferals take their Wildcats. Not much else on.

Nice comparison to Yankees fans they are quite abrupt as well.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:51 26 Feb 16

Reply #580433

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Yankees also exorbitant pricing which their fans still lap up identical to the Wildcats.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:52 26 Feb 16

Reply #580435

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

I went to a Yankees game as a tourist and enjoyed it for what it was, but man you can see why they are a hated franchise. Ironically much like Derek Jeter who was all class, so is a Damian Martin, its the people who support them that are the irritation! Cat comment about Perth as a city, ive only heard nice things about it.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:54 26 Feb 16

Reply #580436

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

City is okay but it's the people.


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Train
Last year
18:54 26 Feb 16

Reply #580437

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

looks like its Troll season again.

Seriously can't wait for this game to start. Haven't been this nervous before watching a game for yonks. Hope Lisch is good to go and may the best team win. Go Wildcats :)


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Anonymous
Last year
18:55 26 Feb 16

Reply #580438

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

No trolling, just 2 people who believe it or not arent on the cats nuts. Looking forward to this one too. Feels very much like a GF game 3!


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:56 26 Feb 16

Reply #580439

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Lol, damn Perth is full of bogans.

As a dude who has spent a lot of time in Perth for work I have never seen anything like it.

Can't wait for tonight's game!!

Bring it :)


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Anonymous
Last year
19:07 26 Feb 16

Reply #580443

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Yep I live in Perth it is full of rude bogans. Doesn't mean everyone is but a good proportion are which is sad.


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Farrison Hord
Last year
19:13 26 Feb 16

Reply #580447

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Expecting minimalist crowd again. Apparently flogging off half price tickets in the last 4 hours...


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Anonymous
Last year
19:17 26 Feb 16

Reply #580450

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Wow half price tickets.

Good luck with the Wednesday game even if it is a GF Game 1 (if they make it).


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Anonymous
Last year
19:22 26 Feb 16

Reply #580451

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

half price tickets? so only $100 for a middle of the range seat?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:23 26 Feb 16

Reply #580452

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

[email protected]
Time to start getting up and about #RedArmy! Let us know if you're on your way in.


now theyre worried that even people who already bought tickets wont bother showing up LOL


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Anonymous
Last year
19:28 26 Feb 16

Reply #580453

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Cats really know how to treat their supporters.

The ones who decided not to make it based on price may not even find out about the half priced tickets in such a narrow four hour window. So random walkups benefit only. Way to support your loyal fans.

The gravy train is slowly waning.


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Luuuc
Last year
19:28 26 Feb 16

Reply #580454

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"Expecting minimalist crowd again."

Was going to don my usual red wildcats polo but I might change to all black everything so I don't feel out of place.
Also instead of "Let's go Wildcats, let's go!" I will only be chanting "Let's go Wildcats"


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:31 26 Feb 16

Reply #580455

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Lol

Worth cheering for the empty seats.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:40 26 Feb 16

Reply #580461

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

So...81 minutes until tip off.

Esky loaded....here we go!


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Train
Last year
19:44 26 Feb 16

Reply #580467

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"Apparently flogging off half price tickets in the last 4 hours..."

Where are you getting this info ?


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Luuuc
Last year
19:45 26 Feb 16

Reply #580468

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Wildcats keys to victory

Offence: Casey Prather needs to get going, and then stay out of foul trouble

Defence: Please miss lots of your shots, Hawks. Pretty please.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
19:46 26 Feb 16

Reply #580470

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Lol

Keys to victory....Lisch and Penney get going.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:24 26 Feb 16

Reply #580477

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

How many games straight have Hawks lost in Perth?


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ROFLcopter
Last year
20:57 26 Feb 16

Reply #580482

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

2 minutes!!


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Caps Fan
Last year
21:13 26 Feb 16

Reply #580488

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Hawks to hit 70% of their 3's and just scrape it in by 5.


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LV
Last year
21:33 26 Feb 16

Reply #580495

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Refs keeping Perth in front with those last couple of calls


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ROFLcopter
Last year
21:36 26 Feb 16

Reply #580498

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Agreed,

Refs want Perth to win,


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LV
Last year
21:36 26 Feb 16

Reply #580499

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Perth have the energy right now.

Hawks can't let them get breaks like that last Prather alley

Pick up the energy or go home Hawks


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Tempo
Last year
21:39 26 Feb 16

Reply #580503

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Looks like these refs have a good Hawks bet on....

Who is going to catch them? Tim Donaghy got away with it for years...you think the NBL can catch cheating refs that bet on games? LOLOL


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LV
Last year
21:42 26 Feb 16

Reply #580504

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Jawai is throwing his weight around tonight and getting away with it.

As I write they finally call a foul on him for the moving screen. Third time it's happened in past few mins tho.

I was going to say good luck doing that vs Breakers bigs


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AngusH
Last year
21:42 26 Feb 16

Reply #580506

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

AJ is a mental midget in this building.


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Tempo
Last year
21:44 26 Feb 16

Reply #580508

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

"Oh look, Perth are skipping ahead, we better start to call some fouls on the Cats so the Hawks get to the line, how else are we going to cash our Hawks that we placed" - Refs


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AngusH
Last year
21:48 26 Feb 16

Reply #580515

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Beautiful work by Penney to milk the Redhage foul there.


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Tempo
Last year
21:49 26 Feb 16

Reply #580519

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

If you couldnt bet on NBL games, referees would be acting completely different.


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AngusH
Last year
21:50 26 Feb 16

Reply #580521

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Tempo = Fixing Troll?


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AngusH
Last year
21:54 26 Feb 16

Reply #580523

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Hawks full court press on the inbound is basically a layup drill for Perth... need to just shut that down.


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Tempo
Last year
21:57 26 Feb 16

Reply #580525

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

18 FTs to 6 LOLOL AND STILL LOSING.

The refs must be shaking in there boots because they are in real danger of losing there Hawks bets....


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Larry 33
Last year
22:03 26 Feb 16

Reply #580530

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

OK. About my comments about Perth "selling" GF tickets: my wife heard it from someone. I couldn't substantiate it. But people above have said it was on Ticketek and attributed to human error.

As to the game: fix the flapping passes, Hawks. Then your shooting can take care of itself. But too mant turnovers = not enough shots.


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LV
Last year
22:28 26 Feb 16

Reply #580541

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Perth and NZ are easily best two defensive teams. So this will be an intense, physical, evenly matched GF


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Anonymous
Last year
22:34 26 Feb 16

Reply #580545

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Tempo why don't you get off here and go have a live bet? You do realise you can bet on any single sporting event in the world now live? Goodbye troll.


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AngusH
Last year
22:48 26 Feb 16

Reply #580554

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Tempo one of those folks who thinks both teams should shoot the same amount of FTs no matter how they play.

So, who's excited for a NZ-Perth Final?!?!

.....

bring on 2016/17.


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Train
Last year
23:09 26 Feb 16

Reply #580563

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Looks like its the "Perth Bogan's" going through to the Grand Final. We might be bogans....but atleast we are winners. #7championships


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LV
Last year
23:12 26 Feb 16

Reply #580565

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Hawks in a great position moving fwd


Just need slightly better or more fitting players around their big 3. Keeping the big 3 obviously key tho


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Anonymous
Last year
05:52 27 Feb 16

Reply #580617

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Train don't be proud, it's a sad thing when in the scheme of it NBL basketball is allll you guys have!


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Train
Last year
08:51 27 Feb 16

Reply #580623

re: Wildcats vs Hawks - G3 - pregame thread

Need some tissues Anon?


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