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Statman
Last year

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Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

Reports up in QLD have now named Shane Heal, although being very careful to ensure not to suggest anyone is actually guilty doing anything illegal. Will be interesting to see where this one ends up.

IMO Im quite surprised that 2 bets of $500 and $100 have raised such an investigation.

http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/shane-heal-denies-betting-on-basketball-team-he-coached-20160302-gn8ivr.html

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Spot up
Last year
20:46 10 Mar 16

Reply #582580

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

I can't believe that no one on here raised any prospect of this link sooner.


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Matthew
Last year
21:12 10 Mar 16

Reply #582581

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

The very last part of that article raises good points.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:28 10 Mar 16

Reply #582583

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

So an employee of his associate put some bets on. Isn't that a long bow to draw to connect that to heal?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:53 10 Mar 16

Reply #582585

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Those WNBL games have got some seriously one sided odds to them if you follow it. Out laying that sort of money with the right intel could easily make you $15k. Sports agencies wouldnt be happy, not to mention the amount they had already given up to start taking enough notice imo.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:20 10 Mar 16

Reply #582586

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Denied allegations, followed by a challenge to ro shambo anyone who begged to differ.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:23 10 Mar 16

Reply #582587

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Spot up...

I actually put something up in regards to this about 2-4 weeks ago and it was taken down for some reason.

If he's betting on or getting someone to bet on his teams games he should be banned from the sport...PERIOD!!!


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KET
Last year
22:42 10 Mar 16

Reply #582589

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Anon, there's something called Presumption of Innocence


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paul
Last year
07:03 11 Mar 16

Reply #582594

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

"So an employee of his associate put some bets on. Isn't that a long bow to draw to connect that to heal?"

Unless there is a smoking gun like an email chain it seems pretty tenuous to me. Especially if there are only two bets, as reported, one to beat the reigning champs and one to lose a game they actually won.


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Happy Days
Last year
08:07 11 Mar 16

Reply #582599

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Whether its one bet or 50 bets,$1 or $500 its irreverent.There are laws in place to maintain the integrity of the sport and if you breach them the penalities are harsh.If he has done nothing wrong he has nothing to fear, if he has, his career is finished.


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paul
Last year
08:30 11 Mar 16

Reply #582602

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

It is relevant, because the report's talking about the actions of an associate of the owner, meaning links need to established that show those actions involved others.

If there were a long string of bets it hints at something systemic, particularly if they were for strategic games, whereas a pair of random bets by an associate of the owner doesn't really fit with that.

Like I said, unless there is a smoking gun linking the actions of the person placing the bets to those who shouldn't be betting, or more to it than the report states, from the outside it seems like a long bow.


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Isaac
Last year
08:36 11 Mar 16

Reply #582604

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Agree. You'd want more of a link before talking investigation and scandal. Surely it's there and they haven't been able to speak about it?


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paul
Last year
08:50 11 Mar 16

Reply #582605

re: Update on "Betting Scandal"

Possibly, or possibly the investigation is a response to complaints ie trying to uncover evidence rather than responding to evidence. Hopefully the investigation is done soon so we know one way or the other.


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LV
Last year
10:37 11 Mar 16

Reply #582611

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

You've gotta wonder whether there's more to it and whether the journalists are treading very carefully with their reporting.

At this point it's a bit of a non story, if the information in the article is all there is.


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paul
Last year
11:02 11 Mar 16

Reply #582615

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

That's certainly possible LV. It's just strange that the article was so specific about the amount bet and which games.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:19 11 Mar 16

Reply #582617

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

There's way more than has been reported. Heal is in serious trouble. And already has the lawyers threatening the media over this. One way or another, he's finished with BA. Too toxic to be involved with the sport ever again.


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Zodiac
Last year
11:40 11 Mar 16

Reply #582620

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

Logic suggests with stories like this there is usually a lot more to it. The fact the media have now named him despite his history of threatening to activate his high priced lawyers at any bad publicity about his past actions, also says something.


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rex
Last year
13:15 11 Mar 16

Reply #582627

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

It sounds a lot more like that advice from inside the SEQ organization may have been passed onto outside parties.
Very much like the Indian cricket betting scandal involving Mark Waugh and Warne. Did not directly gamble but gave information that may have been useful to other parties.


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Wilson Sting
Last year
14:21 11 Mar 16

Reply #582635

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

"Those WNBL games have got some seriously one sided odds to them if you follow it. "

So does the NBL, especially when you factor in that on any given day, any team can beat anyone. I'll always jump on a team that has around $8 odds because generally it's about a 1 in 5 payout rate.


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Happy Days
Last year
16:51 11 Mar 16

Reply #582643

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

The question is has there been a breach of Queensland legislation.The dollar value is irrelevent unless the case is sustained. Police will look at all aspects of the case including betting records,bank transactions and cctv footage.


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Dazz
Last year
17:00 11 Mar 16

Reply #582644

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

I don't bet on sports, so I don't know how easy it is to setup an account. But I do know there are hundreds (if not thousands) of online bookies.
Point is, if you did want to cheat by betting and shaving points, I can't imagine it would be too hard to hide your betting activity. (Until police seize your phone or computer with the betting app :-()

Or, you would be more likely to use a trusted friend, rather than some random employee.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:49 11 Mar 16

Reply #582651

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

The article definitely had a more than meets the eye feel to it. Will be interesting to see what comes out


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Anonymous
Last year
12:18 12 Mar 16

Reply #582694

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

unfortunately leopards dont change their spots!!


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Anonymous
Last year
20:07 12 Mar 16

Reply #582732

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

So what leads you to that conclusion? PLease tell us.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:27 12 Mar 16

Reply #582735

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

It's biology/genetics.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/01/100113172308.htm


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Anonymouse
Last year
20:49 12 Mar 16

Reply #582739

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

And David Attenborough said so.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:52 17 Mar 16

Reply #583152

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

Raises the question what NBL bets where placed by him during his stint as player, player/coach and coach in the men's league.

Remember bets are easier to be disguised in bigger betting pools. Now that he went over to WNBL the bets placed were more significant in a shallow pool and stood out.

He has always been a prick, at least this will finally get rid of him from our sport. Fox do not re-sign him as a commentator please.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:59 17 Mar 16

Reply #583157

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

"Those same hearings also questioned why Heal had resigned from his director roles of his 38 companies three months before the business went under.

He reportedly told examiners that he was unable to recall what had prompted him to step down."

F'IN LOL what a joke you are Heal.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:59 17 Mar 16

Reply #583158

re: Update on WNBL "Betting Scandal"

Yeah, let me casually resign from THIRTY EIGHT companies.

That's a lot of signatures.


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