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AUSA Jeeven
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AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Hey all,

I'll be down in Adelaide to cover U18s for the whole week.

Will be posting daily recaps, along with some commentary on twitter (@AUSA_Hoops, @AUSAJeeevs).

Published previews for both mens and womens competitions last night, you can find them here:

Mens - http://bit.ly/2016U18NMP

Women - http://bit.ly/2016U18NWP

Will update this thread with links to the recaps, otherwise you can find them through our Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ausa.hoops).

Looking forward to a big week of basketball, some serious talent out there. A few players are primed to have a break out tournament...

Cheers,
Jeeven

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Aussie
Last year
10:25 15 Apr 16

Reply #585097

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Really looking forward to seeing how Dent, Froling and Dalton go


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Anonymous
Last year
18:02 15 Apr 16

Reply #585158

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Who's going to sneak into the u17 side?


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AUSA Jeeven
Last year
01:19 19 Apr 16

Reply #585376

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Recap Links

Day 1 Mens: http://bit.ly/1V9G3Fh
Day 1 Womens: http://bit.ly/1qO4V95

Day 2 Mens: http://bit.ly/1SLk40V
Day 2 Womens: http://bit.ly/23GjFbx

Day 3 Mens: http://bit.ly/1qBQynL
Day 3 Womens: http://bit.ly/1Tf3VnJ

@585158 still a little too early to tell... there are definitely more than a few players making a strong case.


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AUSA Jeeven
Last year
13:50 20 Apr 16

Reply #585529

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Day 4 Mens: http://bit.ly/1S9zAYJ

Day 4 Womens: http://bit.ly/1NAoJBr


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Anonymous
Last year
00:41 21 Apr 16

Reply #585589

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Finals are here at last. In the women's VIC Metro have drawn SA Metro - same match up as 2 years back when VM had dominated their pool then dropped this game.

Different coaches and teams this year, will be interesting to see who prevails.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:00 21 Apr 16

Reply #585607

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Except that was a semi 2 years ago, not a quarter.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:56 21 Apr 16

Reply #585611

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Do you think top performers will get camp invites for possible spots in u17 worlds teams?

Bowen For example who's the top performer in points and rebounds.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:30 21 Apr 16

Reply #585628

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Plenty of BA here watching so it all goes in the mix I am sure.

Big win by Vic Metro in the women's over SA. Conti must be putting her hand up for a PG spot.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:26 21 Apr 16

Reply #585630

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Absolutely..
Conti should at least be shelleys backup as well as a combo in the backcourt Imo.

If say pizzey, Magbegor, mcspadden and Cochrane are locks... (Coe)
Who do you think will get that final big spot? Or will they go with just 4?
I.bourne, Parker, batish, motuga, Nankervis, Rees, Beaumont, rowcliffe etc..

Mole needs a spot on that team also.

Imo
Shelley/conti
Simmons/Simons/? (A cg or sg) Goodchild, Andrews, Satie, McLean, c.bourne, cubillo.
Mole/Rowe
Pizzey/Cochrane/? (A pf)
Magbegor/mcspadden


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Anonymous
Last year
16:55 21 Apr 16

Reply #585632

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Goodchild won the PG battle against Vic Metro easily so would be my first addition. But I would still find a spot for Conti in the 12.

Front court unchanged assuming Pizzey is fit.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:18 21 Apr 16

Reply #585633

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

I'd go with Goodchild also but she's not much of a distributor. Good at getting to the basket and finishing. Also plays good defence...

Who's the fifth big Iyo?

I'd just move mcspadden over to pf and put Nankervis at centre.
Looked descent in the seabl so far.
Not sure why she isn't in the metro team. Was she injured or did they decide that they had enough bigs already?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:31 21 Apr 16

Reply #585634

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

This...
5'8 Shelley/5'4 Conti
5'11 Simmons/5'11 Simons/5'9 Goodchild
6'0 Mole/6'0 Rowe
6'3 Pizzey/6'4 Mcspadden/6'5 Cochrane
6'4 Magbegor/6'3-6'4 Nankervis

Mens?
6'0 Dent/6'1 Zunic
6'5 Elkaz/6'6 Bines/? Who knows..
6'7 Fullarton/6'7 Johns
6'8 Dalton/6'8 Griffiths/6'7 Bowen or possibly 6'8 ring?
6'9 Froling/6'10 Colina


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Anonymous
Last year
17:32 21 Apr 16

Reply #585635

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Stattman maybe?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:31 21 Apr 16

Reply #585643

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

So looking decent in SEABL to you is:

Limited minutes for one of the bottom teams in the country.

For an average of 1 rebound and 2.5 points.

Sapphire material? I think someone believes teams are selected on here and trying to influence?


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Anonymous
Last year
22:04 21 Apr 16

Reply #585647

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

no affiliation mate...
She's a quality big for a bottom Ager... And of course in development.
Just thought she would offer something different from our long mobile bigs.
the European teams all have strong 6'3 centres. Cubaj, Jordao etc...
It would be good to have atleast one bigger stronger body with post moves, strong hands and a descent ft shooter.

No doubt there are others in the mix but no one with her frame.
I'm also a big fan of bourne, Parker and G.george.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:14 21 Apr 16

Reply #585648

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Not picking on any kid, I'd just prefer to pick someone who has done something, even if they are 4'6".

Saying someone is a quality big just because they are biggish doesn't make sense, unless your ambition is to finish a creditable 9th at worlds. The squad need to be exceptional.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:35 21 Apr 16

Reply #585650

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

I agree. I'm choosing her for a reason. It's not just about being big.

We finished 5th last campaign.. And the talk back then was that we had no bigs even though we had some quality ones available.
We have good Size this time around, but we are gonna struggle getting rebounds when Magbegor is not under the basket.
Most of our guards and sfs have higher rebounding numbers than our other bigs.
I'm worried about that particular area.
Who can fill that roll?


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Anonymous
Last year
22:44 21 Apr 16

Reply #585651

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Just an example..
2015 oceania u16 over 4 games

Magbegor 45 rebounds 82 mins
Pizzey 12 rebounds 64 mins
Mcspadden 17 rebounds 49 mins
Cochrane 12 rebounds 45 mins



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Anonymous
Last year
22:48 21 Apr 16

Reply #585652

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

1 rebound and 2.5 points per game?


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Anonymous
Last year
22:57 21 Apr 16

Reply #585653

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

How much time she has got has nothing to do with her ability.

Mole at Hobart
Bourne sisters at Canberra
Batish at Sandringham

No minutes for these girls either... Quality players though.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:09 21 Apr 16

Reply #585654

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

I agree stats don't tell the full story, but at some time, at some level a player needs to have done some thing, somewhere, some time to be eligible for selection into an Australian squad.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:40 22 Apr 16

Reply #585719

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

How come Shelley didn't play the semi?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:32 22 Apr 16

Reply #585731

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

So that's vic country out of the gold medal game?..... Shame if it is as they had a real chance of taking the title...... Is Shelley injured??


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Anonymous
Last year
22:14 22 Apr 16

Reply #585734

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Shelley injured but Vic Country did a great job this week. Over performed really for the talent available.

The big girls turned up to play for Vic Metro today.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:56 22 Apr 16

Reply #585735

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

How can a team"over perform" they either win or they don't, and they have won very very well, and clearly loosing Shelly did make a difference.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:04 22 Apr 16

Reply #585736

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Bad injury?


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Anonymous
Last year
00:44 23 Apr 16

Reply #585742

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

VIC Country lucky to be top 4 with Shelley. Remember largely the same team that finished 4th in 16s. Never a danger.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:47 23 Apr 16

Reply #585743

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

U17 worlds are in a June. We need her...


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Anonymous
Last year
00:59 23 Apr 16

Reply #585745

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

I'm not sure she is the 2nd coming

Just a solid PG who beat up Pacific Nations. We have plenty of stock in this are such as Conti, Goodchild, Cubillo.

Good, but let's not get carried away.


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Anon
Last year
20:51 23 Apr 16

Reply #585782

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Well Vic Metro have stamped their authority again in both mens and womens.
Well done by Qld Sth to make gold medal games in both.
NSW best finish was metro boys with bronze.
Country boots go from 1st last year to 5th.
Country girls finish 4th which is up on last year.
Metro girls embarrassing again finishing down the bottom end even with a wnbl coach at the head.
NSW program needs changes to lift the program.
Seebohm is overcommitted to run nitp program.
Who will take Cadees role.better be someone decent to look to get the program bvack on track.




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Anonymous
Last year
09:40 24 Apr 16

Reply #585793

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

I wonder who will make the men's u17 team.

Dent/zunic
Elkaz/bines/? (MacDonald/stoddart/Stattman)
Fullarton/johns
Froling/?/? (Griffiths/Bowen/ring)
Colina/? (Dalton/carter/Hulland)




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Anonymous
Last year
10:07 24 Apr 16

Reply #585796

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Qld south girls will get vic next year I reckon with their emerging team plus Goodchild, head, motuga.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:38 24 Apr 16

Reply #585797

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Will be interesting, Vic Metro had 4 bottom age plus plenty at home. Will have a MASSIVE front court advantage, while QLD South look stronger in the back court.

Should be fun to watch.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:48 24 Apr 16

Reply #585798

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Not to mention some other strong teams course!


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Anonymous
Last year
11:04 24 Apr 16

Reply #585800

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Qld south could have the best front court they've had in years. Motuga, George, Betham, Bayliss, Johnston. Add Goodchild, head, kirisome and a plethora of other talented young guards.

Vic with Cochrane, puli, Frawley, Gould, plus maybe nankervis and a bunch of other choices.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:06 24 Apr 16

Reply #585801

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

And McDowell white I might add.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:55 26 Apr 16

Reply #585929

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Does anyone think carter, Hulland and Bowen could push out dalton, fakira and Griffiths out of the u17 squad after great showings in the ajc?
Froling and colina look to have cemented there place.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:03 26 Apr 16

Reply #585930

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Triple the value on semi final and gold medal games to pool games.

Any coach or selector would apply this filter you would hope. Shame the rubbish that has been written about best teams etc. are so far off the mark and don't apply this approach. That said, from what I have read looks like they didn't understand what happened before their eyes in the big games either???


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Anonymous
Last year
21:39 26 Apr 16

Reply #585945

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

My opinion of women's team:
Shelley/Conti/Goodchild
Simmons//Simons/D'Angelo
Rowe/Mole
Cochrane/Pizzey
Magbegor/McSpadden

Reserves from:
Fuiavia
Cubillo
Nankervis

3 is big concern for me, but 2 guards can play up to cover and Cochrane will end up a 3


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Anonymous
Last year
22:15 26 Apr 16

Reply #585947

re: AUSA U18 Championships Coverage

Fuiava is nz.

Agree... But different starting 5.
5'8 Shelley/5'4 Conti
5'11 Simons/5'10 Dangelo/5'9 Goodchild
5'11 Simmons/6'0 Mole/6'0 Rowe
6'5 Cochrane/6'3 Pizzey
6'4 Magbegor/6'4 mcspadden

Goodchild as cg (3rd pg).
Mole and Rowe to play small 4s on occasion.


Boys I'd go..
6'0 Dent/6'2 zunic
6'5 Elkaz/6'6 bines/6'2 MacDonald
6'7 Fullarton/6'7 johns/6'8 ring
6'10 Froling/6'10 Hulland
6'10 Colina/6'9 carter

Macdonald(or someone else) as 3rd ball handler
Johns and ring both combo forwards.


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