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Isaac
Last year

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Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Projections seem to be late first round or second round. A lot of chitchat from people not very high on him, so we'll see.

As with others (including Exum and Simmons), the current draft game appears to be going while your stock is there.

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Curtley
Last year
09:08 15 Apr 16

Reply #585085

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

He's discovered the loophole that means you don't need to have ever really played consistently against quality opposition and still get drafted.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:03 15 Apr 16

Reply #585104

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

cliff Alexander springs to mind as a comparison. happy to be proved wrong


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RMQ
Last year
11:05 15 Apr 16

Reply #585106

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

I wonder what his legal implications may be if an NBA team drafts him thinking he's 19, but then finds out he is not?

I'm not sold that he is only 19.

He's talented, but I think he's closer to 23 years old.


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Isaac
Last year
12:08 15 Apr 16

Reply #585115

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Wow, we almost had a thread about an African basketball player without a reference to his age. Almost!


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RMQ
Last year
13:02 15 Apr 16

Reply #585121

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

His race has nothing to do with it.

And pretty sure he is Sudanese, not African? or are they the same thing? I dunno.

It's not because he is African that we are questioning his age. It is because it is RUMORED that he migrated to Australia with no birth certificate, and by the time a birth certificate was made, his age was younger than what he actually was.

This has benefits and is common. However in an industry where age, longevity and potential are big issues it should be talked about.


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Baller#3
Last year
13:19 15 Apr 16

Reply #585123

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Na Sudans in Northern Europe I think, they don't believe in birth certificates up there.


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ME
Last year
13:36 15 Apr 16

Reply #585128

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

He is looking like a red herring. He was very good a few years ago, but everyone else caught up and he never developed physically. He is still the same beanpole he was when he turned up in the US, and that just seems to be his body type.

He will go to the D league, probably get crushed, and end up in some obscure second-tier European league. I'd love to be proven wrong. He looked like a generational talent at one point. But then again, so do a lot of kids that go nowhere a few years later.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:03 15 Apr 16

Reply #585135

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Might be a suitable candidate for an NBL marquee player in a few years?


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Anon
Last year
15:07 15 Apr 16

Reply #585136

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

(Mod: Removed at author's request.)


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Anonymous
Last year
15:09 15 Apr 16

Reply #585137

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Good luck to him.

I hope he turns into a star

But i must admit this reminds me alot of ater majok who was also the next stud player before anyone had seen him play against strong competition


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Isaac
Last year
15:39 15 Apr 16

Reply #585138

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

RMQ, poor record keeping as much as anything. People said the same things about Yao and Yi. Suspicion of foreigners. I just think it's better to leave it out of the discussion unless you have real information.


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RMQ
Last year
16:05 15 Apr 16

Reply #585143

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

How long did Yao and Yi last?

I'm not nor will I ever be an NBA GM. But if I was, a players age would be something I'd consider when drafting them.

A 19 year old with potential has to be better than a 23 year old with the same potential right?

I'm not doubt Thon's ability. I'm just amazed there's so little discussion about his age and the effect it would have on his professional career.


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Luuuc
Last year
16:23 15 Apr 16

Reply #585145

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

There's so little discussion because there is so little to discuss.
I doubt anyone would dispute age being a factor when trying to assess a player's current development and future potential, but in the absence of any concrete proof of anything and presumably no simple way to find out his true age, how much is there to really talk about?


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Sitiveni
Last year
17:09 15 Apr 16

Reply #585151

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Friends of ours adopted 2 kids from Ethiopia and they don't know exactly how old they are. One kid is 15 and the other 13 but they think their both at least one or possibly two years older.

Think it happens a lot in African countries


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Mick
Last year
17:59 15 Apr 16

Reply #585157

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

He is nothing like Ater Majok.

Thon is a finesse offensive player, unfortunately at this stage he can't play on the perimeter (too slow / uncoordinated / can't shoot / no feel for the game), yet he has no post moves and doesn't like contact so can't play inside.

He's stuck in no man's land, like all of the "stretch" bigs that can't shoot.

The plan to turn him into "the next Kevin Durant" instead of "the next Kevin Garnett" was a HUGE mistake.

However, the biggest knock on him -- and it's huge -- is he has terrible hands. They're way too small. You can't make it at that size with bad hands.


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Train
Last year
20:41 15 Apr 16

Reply #585177

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

If the kid can ball who really cares about his age. He obviously has a decent amount of talent otherwise he wouldn't be getting a look. Lets judge him after a couple of NBA seasons under his belt.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:11 15 Apr 16

Reply #585188

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Can't say I was ever super high on him.. I think he would be a good player at NBL level but I just don't see it at NBA level. It's amazing what the US/youtube hype train can accomplish! I mean he's 7'1 and shoots less than 40% at HIGH SCHOOL level as a second year senior.
Good decision not to go to college though - he would have been exposed. At least now he has a shot of a guaranteed contract at the end of the first round.


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BigAds
Last year
09:36 16 Apr 16

Reply #585211

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

But Train, he's likely to be retired within a few seasons :-)


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Anonymous
Last year
09:46 16 Apr 16

Reply #585213

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

RMQ, what are you basing him being closer to 23 on?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:20 16 Apr 16

Reply #585234

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

(Mod: Hello, my name is anon and I want to get sued...)


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Anonymous
Last year
00:05 17 Apr 16

Reply #585247

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

What amazes me isn't his age being in dispute, the comment about Sudan not being in Africa, WTF???


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Anonymous
Last year
20:57 22 Apr 16

Reply #585727

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

I bet $1000 he isn't 19!


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Dazz
Last year
21:37 22 Apr 16

Reply #585732

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

The problem lies in believing that he is somehow "special". Sure, in Australia, its only recently that we have seen these athletic 7ft kids from Sudan, but the Yanks have been raiding Africa (in one way or another) for a very long time. There are hundreds (if not thousands) of "Ed Smiths" all doing the same thing. Buying kids in Africa and selling them to high schools and colleges.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:16 23 Apr 16

Reply #585741

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Ed smith is slave owners......? Is that what your saying?

Football has same thing it's a version of modern day slavery just with guardians & agents getting there pockets lined


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Anonymous
Last year
08:29 23 Apr 16

Reply #585751

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Except the fact that if they do make it they stand to make millions of dollars for themselves.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:55 23 Apr 16

Reply #585755

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Guess it's ok for the slave to earn some...he"ll spend it all and end up broke 3 years after he is done anyway while Ed's a guardian of a new starlet


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Dazz
Last year
20:49 23 Apr 16

Reply #585781

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

You can make up your own mind about the "uncle Eds" of the world. They get parents (or aunties etc) who are often illiterate to sign over guardianship of the kids. The kids gets dragged allover the world, to whatever team will line his pockets, usually avoiding anything resembling an actual education. When the kid doesn't make it to the NBA (as the vast majority do not) he is left broke, uneducated, and bitter.

I'm not a big fan of the "system" as it is, but at least if these kids got a high-school level education, and hopefully even a college diploma, out of it, that would be something.

The really bad part about kids like Thon, is that they are being taken from Australia where they would have received a decent FREE education any way.


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Anonymous
Last year
05:28 27 Apr 16

Reply #585958

re: Thon Maker cleared by NBA to enter draft

Emmanuel Malou also going into draft?


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