I don't condone the abuse, but one of the issues is that the adults who should be supporting the green shirts are often not present to support amd educate them. That is the grey shirt and court supervisors are letting the green shirts be put in a situation where running the game is well beyond their ability. There are too many green shirts left to their own devices. So parralel to the abise there is also neglect which adds to the situation. The suoervisots have a dutu of care to the young refs and players to make themselves involved and participating in supporting both parties.

Report the parents, suspend them from the games, if a team walks off investigate the circumstances, if necessary fine the club and get rid of the team if guilty. Pathetic parents act that way, no wonder kids get bad attitudes these days.

Ban em. Not needed. No need for kids to be bullied and abused. Maxypoop should take up reffing for a while and see how long she lasts.

Maxypoop you sound like part of the problem. This is a green shirt refereeing an Under 10's game at 8am on a Saturday morning! I doubt they are thinking about anything other than some pocket money least of all an NBL career.

Abuse should not be a part of any workplace least of all a green shirts under 10 reffing gig. Grow up

Maxymoo, you're an idiot or just trolling for the hell of it. If you're a parent I bet you wouldn't want adults yelling at your kid. I wonder how many good referees we've lost because kids have thought screw that for a couple of dollars, I'll work at McDonald's instead.
Totally ban every parent for a few games, like they've done I'm Europe with bad spectator behavior. Sure it punishes some of the parents that are good but maybe peer pressure will make the parents from hell wake up. If it keeps up then the club should step in and get rid of them, feel sorry for the kids but better to get rid of bad apples.

I did and you are still an idiot.

Firstly I believe that Green shirts should be educated on the court therefore a grey shirt should be refing with a green shirt. If we don't develop our green shirts, in 10 years we will have no ref's which means no games. BASA needs to step in and put clear and concise guidelines down for refs. 1. if there is abuse, tell the coach of the offending team who it is and remove them. 2. If 1 doesn't happen then stop the game. 3. Get the court supervisor and don't start the game again until they are removed. Problem solved. If it is documented by the team in 2 circumstances for the season the association gets fine and heavily. This will make every President come down hard on them. Let the association deal with them. If they can't get it across then report, tribunal and banning.

Secondly, the parents that do this are repeat offenders and some of them have a very bad reputation. Some teams cringe when they have to play them in the round. Therefore BASA know these individuals as well and they should have people out monitoring them. Just my thoughts!

Another opinion but Green shirt or Grey shirt, if they're young and refereeing on a Saturday morning they are still learning.

The Grey shirt doesn't automatically make a 13 year old into a refereeing expert or professional. It just means hey, I'm ready to deal with coaches seeking feedback.

That is the ONLY difference.

As someone said above if you want better referees, more oversight, more education then be prepared to pay $20 a game for your child to play. Because that's what it would cost.

Its Under 10's basketball.
You get kids who are learning to referee. You dont get Under 18 Division 1 quality referees. Maybe let the kids play rather than yelling out FOUL FOUL FOUL or STOP THE CLOCK, CLOCK CLOCK CLOCK.

It's under 10 basketball. It's not an NBA championship.

Point 2 is written through 1 eye as that was not the case at all.

Even if this was a protest against a coach dictating the game what type of message does that send your players. It's OK to walk out on a game if you're not happy with something? The coach and parents need to let their kids play and leave their ego's at the door.

The coach and club need to control the parents as the same parents keep having issues. They take it way to serious even so one parent takes their 8/9 year old child's stats on an ipad for god sake.

And the week before when a parent/spectator got ejected?? Yep no issues here??

Wow. Clearly issues here and how can this situation even arise.
Abuse / bullying form the side lines and nothing in place in this day and age. Shame, shame,shame as Derryn would say.

So a spectator asked a question and got abused?
Is the foul count not on the scoreboard?

And? Why do people always expect the foul count to be near equal. Maybe the other team foul more. It can be as simple as that.

Parents/spectators are not allowed to talk to people on the score table as they are part of the officiating team for the game.

The parent ejected was apparently an embarrassment, he went at the umps all game and then at the umpiring supervisor following saying they cost them the game, laughable considering a 20 point win.

Every team gets their turn at a high foul count, especially when you're talking of u10 basketball. Get over it parents, take a deep breath and think whether it's worth your child watching you carrying on like a lunatic!

I think its yes and no with the coach having responsibility. Yes in terms of on court behaviour and questioning the officials in a respectful manner and also being the role model that the kids should look to. If the coach is behaving like an absolute lunatic then that's unacceptable and should be addressed.
Some parents are a lost cause though, no matter how a coach can tell them to calm down they still wont change their spots. If anything I've seen where a coach has tried to calm a parent down and its inflamed the situation, pouring more petrol on the fire. As mentioned before these parents should be fully banned from courtside and the club officials should be the ones enforcing this instead of the poor old coach. If they decide to continue their behaviour, unfortunately maybe for the kid but the best way is to just get rid of them. If they club hop and keep up the same behaviour then hopefully they might get a clue and shut up for their kids sake.

itsUN10s.................my god what will they be like by the time they get to UN18s.............think the parents and children need to take up a different sport.............chess maybe as their are no coaches or umpires to deal with and no team mates to compete against


absolutely disgraceful

Cat, yes I agree with those actions, however some clubs I believe will continue to give too many chances. Had a couple of kids get some techs a couple of weeks ago, not in under 10s. One I thought was a bit soft and politely asked the ref after the game what it was about, he said the kid had been given warnings during the game about talking and questioning calls so the last one he teched him up. I agreed with him, just said that I wish he had told me during the game so I could have taken control of the situation before it came to that. He agreed and said if there was a problem with my teams behaviour he would talk directly to me. As mentioned in previous posts there needs to be someone looking after games that get out of control when especially there are green shirts, call the coaches in, have a talk, hear any concerns and for that game hopefully it gets better control. The best refs will at least explain why they made the call even if you don't agree, but theres communication.
After the game I gave the kids a lecture that from now on tech fouls for undisciplined behaviour is not on and if it continued there would be consequences. Like you its more about getting these kids to play the right way, if they get a bad call get over it, in this game there were plenty on both sides.
As for parents, unfortunately its not confined to basketball, the clubs just need to take a stand on repeated bad behaviour, maybe each year parents need to sign a code of conduct, that way if they breach it they can be shown the door.