Luuuc
Years ago

Opals warm-up matches in the USA

First of the 3 games is vs. Canada, tomorrow morning at 7am AEST.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Canada have gone pretty small up front.
No hamblin, bulgak, potter, Alexander etc. no player over 6'3.

Very good energetic team though. Could definitely beat Australia, Spain etc.

6'0 Nurse/5'8 Langlois/5'9 Thorburn
6'1 Gaucher/5'7 fields
6'1 Tatham/6'1 Murphy
6'3 Plouffe/6'3 plouffe/6'2 ekunwe
6'3 Achonwa/6'3 ayim

Vs

5'8 Phillips/5'5 Mitchell/5'8 lavey
6'1 Taylor/5'10 ebzery
6'1 Talbot/6'1 jarry
6'3 hodges/6'4 George/6'4 burton
6'8 cambage/6'5 tolo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

28 July 2016. Opals V Canada. The day Nat Burton became an Opals starter.

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LC  
Years ago

Opals dominating Canada so far.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is it on live stream anywhere?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Burton

23.58mins
2pts, 3rbds, 2ast, 1blk, 3to, 4foul

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dani  
Years ago

http://nowwatchtvlive.co/watch-nba-tv-usa-live-online-free-online-nba-tv-channel-usa/

USA v France

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Opals - Canada box score:

http://www.usab.com/news-events/live-stats/2016/07/box-score-2016-wnt-showcase-game-australia-vs-canada.aspx

Looks like we blew them away in the first quarter and maintained it the rest of the way.
The Phillips-Mitchell backcourt went +21 and +16 respectively.
Cambage with a very poor A:TO ratio this game. Probably should be benched I think :p

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Burton

23.58mins
2pts, 3rbds, 2ast, 1blk, 3to, 4foul
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But I'm sure she ran up and down the court well.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Burton with the third highest +/- in the game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

The reason that the Opals started the game on fire was that Canada was so caught up in containing Burton that Cambage snuck under their guard and piled on the early points. True story. If you don't believe me you don't understand basketball.

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eyeshutopen  
Years ago

Burton the no stat all star pt 2

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/15/magazine/15Battier-t.html?_r=0

Also, good win. Canada are on the rise.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

The team won well and Burton had a great +/- of 10 and I'm sure played hard as she always does. Yet people still want to have snide digs. Pathetic.
Whether you agree with the selection or not has she done something wrong by being picked and playing to the best of her ability?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

+- was good because other people performed well while she was on the court.
Both hodges and George would have had same +- if they had started. Only 15 mins court time between them also compared to 24 mins.

Look at the play by play. Canada's turnovers were not due to burtons defence.

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Caps Fan  
Years ago

"a player who finds himself on the same team with the world's four best basketball players, and who plays only when they do, will have a plus-minus that looks pretty good, even if it says little about his play. "

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You know someone is really reaching when they're using only +/- to justify their opinion.

I wonder how many people here watched the game.
Hard to be too critical of anything without actually seeing it I would of thought.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

It would appear that the hatred of Joyce means Burton can't win. If the team wins it's nothing to do with her efforts, but I'm sure if they drop a game it will be entirely her fault.
Anyway, good luck to her and the team. I'm hoping they do well

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paul  
Years ago

You've got to love seeing Cambage scoring 16p at 80% in 19mins. That’s the exact sort of short-burst production that will make the Opals very hard to beat, because she’s not out there long enough to get tired and become a defensive liability.

Also good to see Phillips and Mitchell play big minutes together, and obviously very effectively. I thought we would have seen more of that in Turkey, and I think that can be a winner against the right oppo guard combos (though maybe not the USA with their size).

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is there any info as to why Suzy Batovich did not make this team?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Because Burton suited the team better

Fight me

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wayne  
Years ago

Huge game by Burton.

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Lorenzo  
Years ago

Very impressed with Canada's coach
Good to get Erin and Penny in the rotations.
Speaking of which only saw live stats and they seamed a little strange.
Comments from anyone who saw the game.
Please nothing about Burton lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Must say some of the burton one lines are gold lol

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Dunkin' Dan  
Years ago

Opals vs France - 6:30am AEST

Live Stats link:
http://www.usab.com/news-events/live-stats/2016/07/box-score-2016-wnt-showcase-game-france-vs-australia.aspx

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paul  
Years ago

It's on the list for a livestream from here too, can't guarantee quality though:

http://www.batmanstream.com/basketball-live-streaming-video-2016-3.html

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Larry  
Years ago

we were lucky looks like Gruda had a quiet game.
Our Euro experienced players would have been able to know a few of the French nationals as well.

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Dunkin' Dan  
Years ago

Pretty even first quarter. Absolutely blew them out of the water in the 2nd though.
Trailed 19-23 at one point, then went on a 24-3 run to close out the first half, followed by a 10-3 run to start the 3rd, and it was all but game over.

Looks like the last 15 minutes of the game were pretty ordinary though. France went 18-8 to end the 3rd, and 18-13 in the 4th, including holding us scoreless over the final 5 minutes :/

Great games by Cambage, Phillips & Taylor.
The Mitchell & Lavey PG combo held their own.
Not much else to like in that Opals boxscore after that though.
Pleased that everyone got at least 7 minutes of court time this game.

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paul  
Years ago

Another fairly dominant performance, leading by 19 with five minutes to play before the bench allowed France to add some respectability. The lack of punch from the bench might be a bit of a concern for Joyce, though, may have to tinker rotations a little?

I think they miss the spark Mitchell gave that unit in 2014, but at the same time the Phillips-Mitchell combo looks really good. I wonder if they can play those two together against the US without being exploited defensively though?

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Dunkin' Dan  
Years ago

Probably the least of our worries vs USA. Bird & Whalen aren't really dynamic scorers, Augustus is more likely these days to take only what she is given, and even Taurasi is primarily a perimeter shooter these days (though still an awesome passer)
It's the matchups at the 3 & 4 spots that are the real killers IMO. We've got no one who can guard the likes of Maya, Angel, Catchings, EDD & Charles.

Anyway I think we need to just forget about USA completely and focus on beating the beatable teams.
I actually wish we weren't even playing USA in the friendly. The unknown factor is our only advantage.

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dani  
Years ago

"The Mitchell & Lavey PG combo held their own."
They got owned in the 2nd half, that was the reason the French got back into it.

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paul  
Years ago

I don't think France ever got back into the game as such, but that pair did have a bad couple of minutes late in the game that allowed some cheapies, particularly Lavey who had been very solid up until that point.

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paul  
Years ago

A pretty startling stat is the starters shot 23/35 and the bench 5/26.

Against Canada it was 23/37 and 6/13 when the bench played fewer minutes, perhaps highlighting how important it is to have the reserves on with a key scorer or two. Probably also shows how we can't afford foul trouble for Phillips and Taylor ala the SF against the US in 2014.

Looking forward to that game on Monday morning. I don't think it will be giving away the element of surprise, they played us twice two years ago and this is essentially the same Opals team, the US knows what to expect from us.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I would like to see..

Starting 5
Phillips
Taylor
Talbot
Hodges
Cambage

2nd unit
Mitchell
Ebzery
Jarry
George
Tolo

Extras
Lavey
Burton

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thank god we can be proud of one of our national teams

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Looks like we might meet Spain in the semis.
Not sure we would win but our chances have improved now since sancho lyttle has an injury.

Anyone's guess who will play USA in the other semi...
France, turkey, Brazil, Belarus, japan all very evenly matched.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Opals vs USA tips off at 6:00am AEST

Live stats here:
http://www.usab.com/news-events/live-stats/2016/07/box-score-2016-wnt-showcase-game-usa-vs-australia.aspx

Game is being telecast live on ESPN

A live stream will apparently be available from USA Basketball's facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/usabasketball/

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Larry  
Years ago

I will be up early and watching it on fox. EDD in awesome form - really looking forward to how the opals deal with the 3-4 position. Cant wait for a Griner / Cambage match up - or even a revisit of Tolo / Griner. EDD reminds me of LJ..... Looking forward to fluffy bunny's game as well.

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LC  
Years ago

I was thinking exactly the same the other day. Delle Donne is a modern day version of LJ.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Slightly different game styles, but there are similarities for sure in that they're both talls who can do real damage from any range.
Of course, LJ went on to become an extremely good defender too. EDD is not one at this stage. But she's still young.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

anyone found the lifestream yet?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Check USA basketball Facebook videos..

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Go to team USA Facebook page that should give you the link,Foxtel ESPN has it on live

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I was asking for a working Lifestream link, without pay tv none of the above works. Thanks again BA.

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paul  
Years ago

Played out similarly to the 2014 SF with the third quarter the difference. The Opals tried some different combos in this game, and the line-ups on when the US triggered their big runs probably won't play much together in the real thing.

Ultimately there's nothing new from this, the US are beatable but we'll have to play very well for four quarters to do it. We also can't be -10 in the possession game like we wear today.

Liz v Griner was a great battle, neither team really had a defensive answer.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Our pfs are killing us...

Talbot as a small 4 looked good against Delle Donne.
Even tolo at the 4 would be better.

Penaluna and Blicavs should have been there ahead of burton and hodges at the 4.

Best lineup looks like
Mitchell
Phillips
Taylor
Talbot
Cambage

Followed by
Lavey
Ebzery
Jarry
Hodges/George/burton
Tolo

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Roster Should have been...

Mitchell
Phillips
Taylor
Talbot
Cambage

Lavey
Ebzery
Jarry
Blicavs
Tolo

Allen
George/Batkovic

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eyeshutopen  
Years ago

Liz is very talented.

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Jay  
Years ago

Anyone is beatable mate but Aus is not the one to do it.. They played harder against Canada. O'hea is the missing piece.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Future team will consist of..
Lavey, ebzery, Talbot, jarry, George, tolo, cambage. All 27 and under...

Probably Last olympics.
Phillips, Mitchell, Taylor, hodges, burton.


What young 5 players are the likely replacements?

Notables... All under 27.
G
Cole
Mansfield
Madgen
Cumming
Seekamp
Wallace
Wehrung

SG/SF
Allen
Kunek
Blicavs
Horvat*
Sharp*

P
Magbegor*
Froling
Smith
Mijovic
Scherf
Bunton

*maybe too early...

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Larry  
Years ago

madgen and allen will be the replacements - were close this year. As long as they keep at it.

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LC  
Years ago

Team USA were made to work hard for their 104-89 win over the Opals in their final hit-out before the 2016 Rio Olympic Games.

In what proved to be an entertaining game of women's international basketball, it was a 35-23 third term in favour of Team USA that ultimately saw them hold off the Opals for the win. Cambage delivered a game-high 22 points ( 8/15 FG) with 8 rebounds.

The USA were led by a stellar shooting performance from Diana Taurasi’s 20 points, 3 rebound and 3 assist effort, leading 5 American’s who scored in double figures for the game.

Opals push USA in final hit-out before Rio

With wins vs Canada and France and a loss vs USA, Opals in reasonable shape heading to Rio.

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paul  
Years ago

Two guard a big concern defensively, but that was always going to be the case. Having said that, you know the Opals weren't showing any defensive tricks, and neither were the US on Taylor and Cambage - hopefully we get to see a rematch with gold on the line.

Opals would have to be very happy with their build up, now it's time to do it under the bright lights.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Only just watched the game. Pretty much went to script.
I thought Joyce was loco putting so many minutes into Penny & Erin, but he sat them a lot in the 2nd half so that's all good.

USA scored at will, as expected. Opals have no answers at the forward spots. Taurasi scored 20 just from being left open on the perimeter after good ball movement by her team and scrambled rotations by us. It wasn't a matter of not having the right matchup for her, she just ended up on her own far too often.
Burton can't guard anyone but that's news to no one.

I liked the way Liz played, including the way she coped with foul trouble (a couple of which were questionable I thought). I liked Ebzery & Jarry looking to attack as well. Penny steady as usual. Point guards held their own as expected, and not afraid to let it fly from outside, which is critical in keeping defences honest. Seriously good first half from Leilani reading the defence.

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Jay  
Years ago

Joyce should have put a little more thought into his second unit.. His bench won't cut it

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Larry  
Years ago

can tell you now - both teams would not have shown their full hand today - it was a warm up game.

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Bear  
Years ago

Team USA men and women will get the gold, but our girls are a quality unit, they could press in a gold/silver game if they play at their best, not so sure about the men as the competition will no doubt be a little tougher for them...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Lol, the team can still be changed.
I'd add allen and blicavs. Going Smaller but much more mobile and better shooters. Open the flloor up more allowing cam age and tolo to work inside.
Take out burton and hodges.


Mitchell, Phillips, Taylor, Talbot, Cambage

Lavey, Ebzery, Allen, Jarry, Tolo

Blicavs, George

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ohea would have been a handy.
One of the best 3 point shooters in the wnba.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I really felt that Bec Allen's length might have been useful in defending EDD. But what a player is Delle Donne!

I don't what prevented Talbot getting more minutes in the first half?

And Anonymous - the one continually clogging up this thread by posting fantasy team lists of future Opals. Have you not seen or heard of Tahlia Tupaea??

Fortunately, most of the coaches of Opals, Gems and Sapphires have.

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Larry  
Years ago

BEAR - pretty sure the Opals cross with USA in quarter finals (if we get there) - So it is Gold or Bronze (silver possible but remote) - I think the Spanish women are in position for Silver - coming from the other side of the draw.

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Larry  
Years ago

13,520 at the game as well

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Tupaea is a great shooter and descent defender, but at only 5'9 as an sg and suspect ball handling. Not so sure she is opals potential. (ahead of others).nstill a fantastic player.

Opals potential u21 brightest prospects IMO. Of course some people will disagree.. But that's ok...

From sapphires or gems.
5'5* Conti Pg u17
5'9* Shelley Cg u17
5'9 Yaegar Cg Oregon-college u17
5'10 Wehrung Cg Canberra-wnbl u19
5'11 Wallace Cg Baylor-college u19
5'11* Simmons Sg/Sf u17
6'0* Rowe Sg/Sf u17
6'1 Horvat Sg/Sf u19
6'1 Sharp Sg/Sf wake forest-college u17, u19
6'1 Bibby Sf u17
6'3 Froling Pf/C Smu-college u17, u19
6'4 Smith Pf/C Stanford-college u19
6'4* Magbegor Pf/C u17, u19
6'5* Cochrane Pf/C u17
6'5 Scherf C Dandenong-wnbl u17, u19

Hasn't represented Australia but
6'3 Aokuso Pf/C has potential also.

*still growing


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Luuuc  
Years ago

"BEAR - pretty sure the Opals cross with USA in quarter finals (if we get there)"

When we meet the USA depends entirely upon how well we do within our group.
Win our group and (assuming we keep winning) we don't play the USA until the gold medal game.

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Larry  
Years ago

going to need to find some 6'8" centres not this 6'4" stuff for international ball

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eyeshutopen  
Years ago

Jarry at the 4 seemed to work quite well.

Seemed like Burton struggled to guard bigs or smalls when switches were forced.

I'm glad Geno favours Uconn players over Angel and Griner. We struggle do deal with those 2.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Angel has played solid minutes this tournament and played well (15 min in game 1 and 22 min in game 2), so I wouldn't say that's a fair assessment of Geno's mindset on her.
Griner has been ordinary all year and hasn't been worthy of more minutes this series. She started out badly this game too, picking up 2 quick fouls and having to sit straight back down again (much like Phoenix fans are used to seeing), but she really made the most of her second chance. That was the most focussed I've seen her play all year.

Jarry is undersized at the 4, especially vs USA, but at least she reads the game well and has a red hot go every moment she is out there.

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Michelle  
Years ago

Ok! I'm sorry Burton is useless!

She cannot be our 2nd best big to be In starting 5!

We have no rebounders besides cambage and Taylor.
Tolo seemed a bit lost out there. George is being wasted on the bench
Hodges and burton are not a scoring threat at all

batkovich would have been the way to go and support cambage better than others

God one game I've watched and Brendan Joyce is killing me already



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Anonymous  
Years ago

To anonymous who keeps posting lists of 'future' opals, let's get through This Olympics first... Another four years and that list will be very different , and hopefully a new head coach who will choose players on ability not favouritism.



Batkovic and OHea to name just two should have been on this current team

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paul  
Years ago

Was good to have another look at this morning's game. The USA were very dangerous on broken plays, we need to be better on the defensive glass and quicker to recover if they get an o-board - can't give up penetration in that situation.

We particularly have to identify Delle Donne, she's going to get her post points, we can't allow her too many cheapies.

In the half-court they had great success getting our centres away from the basket defending on-balls, and had success getting our two-guards into any sort of screening action. When they combined those two they usually got a wide-open look.

There are a number of defensive tricks you can use to cover the ball screens with the bigs, expect to see us switching into zone as they come off that on-ball or switching the bigs and the weakside guard hedging to intercept that pass to the high big.

As for the two-guards, I'm not sure there are too many solutions for that, they were able to get separation very easily and then look over the defender to make easy feeds, and away from the ball Phillips really struggled keeping tabs on them.

Still, I really like our guard rotation, and love Mitchell and Phillips together, all teams including the US have struggled with that, so we should back them to get the job done offensively and hope some man-zone switching helps to cover defensively.

One other thing was the small-ball line-up with Jarry at the PF, perhaps Talbot should get some more minutes in that situation too, as I think someone else mentioned?

We also shouldn't have Burton and Hodges inbounding against the press, get Taylor to do that so if they double off her she can advance the ball and punish them.

Can't wait for the Olympics to start, first game against Brazil should be a beauty, hopefully we can blow them out


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AussiePride  
Years ago

Enough already about Suzy Batkovic! While she has been a sensational force in the WNBL she has never performed at International level against the stronger countries. She has looked like a deer in the headlights against the USA and Russia etc previously so I see little value in having her at the Olympics. Better to give some younger players the opportunity than to beat a dead horse!

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Titan 34  
Years ago

AussiePride - you're welcome to your opinion, just as everyone should be entitled to theirs. Suzy did a great job in her supporting role, coming of the bench at the Olympics. Not only an outstanding player nationally but also internationally. Selections should always be based on ability, not age or favouritism. I would have selected Suzy 100%. My opinion - you're welcome to yours.

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NotQuiteInfamous  
Years ago

AussiePride - penny taylor was horrible in the 2010 World Champs. Dropped a 3/14 game (can't remember exact fg%) in the cross over game which knocked the Opals out of medal contention.

LJ ran around like like an an old Kobe in London shooting nothing but contested fadeaways and acting like the best player on the team even though Liz needed to be doubled, and open shots could have been generated by playing through her instead.

They still get the respect they deserve for their overall contributions to the Opals and so should Suzy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

NotQuiteInfamous, let's not bring up the dreaded 2010 campaign, bad mojo. ;-)

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