Zodiac
Years ago

R2: Bullets vs 36ers 16/10

By my calculations less than 30 min until game time in Brisbane. Bullets are 2-0 and clear favourites here even if Bairstow is still out and the 36ers undermanned without Creek will need everyone (that includes you DJ!) to step up.

Would have to be pretty optimistic to back the Sixers tonight.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Brisbane go to 3-0. Not bad.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Mosquito squad to get pumped here.

I'm looking forward to seeing what coach Joey can do.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Teys starting over Ferguson & Drmic? Man

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Anonymous  
Years ago

How many does the Brisbane Convention Centre hold?

Carf saying they had to turn people away

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Zodiac  
Years ago

I remember it being one of the smaller venues around maybe 3-3,500?

Dwayne Russell just said sold out 4,000

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Stupid by Randle

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Flop warning wtffffffff

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MidRange  
Years ago

Bairstow suiting up?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Where did Brissy play game 1 versus Wildcats?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Wow Adelaide getting screwed early

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twenty four  
Years ago

Brisbane wearing white at home when no one else does is stupid anyway. Hopefully they realise this tonight.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Bairstow just checked in.

Bullets played their opening game at Boondall.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

'Brisbane wearing white at home when no one else does is stupid anyway. Hopefully they realise this tonight.

huh

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Uh ohs Beal's caught fire

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Jick  
Years ago

CAM BAIRSTOW IN THE HOUSE!

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twenty four  
Years ago

^^^

Commentators mentioned that Brisbane had to track down their 'away' (maroon) threads because Adelaide only brought their whites.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Randle is a delight to watch

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Why haven't they counted Randle's FT?

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Bairstow looking good

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Entertaining game so far.

DJ just brain farted to end the qtr

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Bairstow looks amazing

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Quarterly brain fart from DJ

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Sobey's money

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Man Adelaide are so poor on talent. Ferguson is no where near NBA talent and has thrown away his chance at an NCAA level university degree for this! None of the guys the 36ers brought in have done much of anything, its Randle or nothing.

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LV  
Years ago

3 bigs at once won't work, Lemanis.

Maybe he's just trying to dominate Adelaide with size but damn, he wouldn't wanna try this line up vs Melbourne or Illawarra. Or NZ. They'd be giving up too many open looks at 3- Kickert and Petrie can't defend the perimeter.

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Jick  
Years ago

What did I tell you about Bairstow!! He is outstanding and will only get better.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Randle off with a knee injury

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Just when things couldn't get any worse for the Sixers...

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Can hear a bit of chatter on court. Brisbane still living up it's library nickname

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Thankfully Randle checking back in

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twenty four  
Years ago

Ferguson has to learn that not every post touch needs to end with him shooting...

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Sixers starting to fall away

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Randle is the only player who'd get a gig on the Bullets roster...

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Jick  
Years ago

Beautiful hand-off from Bairstow > Bruce there. Textbook

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Doyle's just not up to it at this level

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koberulz  
Years ago

Russell and Carfino are painful.

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overloaded  
Years ago

DJ over rated.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

DJ has skills but ZERO basketball IQ

A liability IMO

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Jick  
Years ago

It is well known DJ is poop.

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Ushiro  
Years ago

Stop the stupid defensive switches that end up with an easy two points on the mismatch under the basket or a foul on the big trying to guard the small outside, run an actual offence to set the shooters up for an open shot, set up some picks to allow the ball carrier to receive the ball in the open court from an inbounds pass, be aware of the shot clock, be smart when to shoot or pass, etc, etc. This is stuff I learnt 50 years ago.

How come highly paid professional coaches like Joey Wright cannot see these things and actually do something about how his so called professional players react on the court?

The first quarter wasn't too bad but same old mistakes in the second quarter that have been going on for several seasons.

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Manu Feildel  
Years ago

Generic negative comment

Generic negative comment

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Is randle the best offensive player in this league?

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overloaded  
Years ago

Brisbane are not that good.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Sobey > Teys

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Beat it Manu

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Joey hasn't learnt shit.

Randle, Teys and Sobey can't be on the floor at the same time!!!!

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overloaded  
Years ago

No scoreboard again ffs

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Ferguson.....NBA? Lol

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Ferguson will be a lottery pick next year.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey had a good point about the timing of that flop tech

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Tempo  
Years ago

LOL what is with the 36ers rebounding?Atrocious

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Who is drawing up plays for Teys to be taking these 3s??? Lol

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Randle genuinely could win MVP this year. No one else will steal a single vote off him from the Sixers. Especially now Creek is injured.

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Jick  
Years ago

Couple of hotties in the crowd

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Adam Gibson sighting! Enjoy Brisbane ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

He's a star sobey

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overloaded  
Years ago

That lady umpire is hot

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Good to see something resembling a hard foul from DJ there when someone brings it inside

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

"That lady umpire is hot"

Lol!!

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overloaded  
Years ago

ShIt call umps

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Zodiac  
Years ago

DJ stepping up in the 4th

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Anonymous  
Years ago

A disgraceful video review just when the game was getting a good flow

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Sobey....wow!

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Wowee!!!!

We've got the close one here!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Great fighting spirit sixers

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AngusH  
Years ago

Hell of a game this one.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Here we go game on

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Joey!! Don't bring Teys in!!!!!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Joey just subbed Sobey out!! WTF

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Zodiac  
Years ago

79-77

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Joey is an idiot

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Why do coaches fall in love with shitty role players like Bruce and leave then on in crunch time. He's been awful

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AngusH  
Years ago

Randle is ridiculous.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Craig with the rejection!!!!!

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AngusH  
Years ago

Wow what a block.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

I went up!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Kickert has been atrocious. Melbourne united must be laughing that they're not spending marquee money on him any more

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JCK  
Years ago

"We're not allowed to show you their board", proceeds to show Adelaide's board

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Massive block by Craig

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AngusH  
Years ago

Probably the easiest shot Randle has missed today.

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AngusH  
Years ago

Dumb 3 by Sobey.

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KET  
Years ago

Why Sobey why

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Gibson still playing for the 6ers?? LOL what a dumb spud

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AngusH  
Years ago

Gibson should be looking to back Randle down in a situation like that... Wasted possession by Gibbo.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Go for the two

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Go for the win or the tire?

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Randle = beast!

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AngusH  
Years ago

Too quick.

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Smyth doesn't coach anymore. We probably won't go for the win.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Amazing

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Get the ball in beals hands

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AngusH  
Years ago

I'm getting it to Bairstow here if I'm Brisbane.

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Tempo  
Years ago

NBL defenses are the WORST in any basketball competition around the world.

It tells you something that where Randle canmcome in and look like Lebron at his peak on the offensive end yet cant get a look in the NBA or a get a start in Europe

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Overtime!!!!!

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

Starting 5 all comfortably positive +/-. Bench all comfortably negative.

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AngusH  
Years ago

OK Tempo maybe start a thread or something about how bad the league is, the rest of us are enjoying the game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Randle, has no vision! Teys was wide open!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Amazing!

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Teys is shit. Randle needs to take that shot

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I wouldn't have passed to teys either

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

NBA is a tall and athletic league. Randle isn't tall enough. He has more than enough game to play in that league, if he was given a genuine chance.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

That was a hell of a save, but I though his foot was on/over the line

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AngusH  
Years ago

Remember back when DJ was a dominant NBL player?

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AngusH  
Years ago

Wow.

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overloaded  
Years ago

Umpires ruining a good game

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AngusH  
Years ago

Looks like a charge to me.

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AngusH  
Years ago

What a game, best of the season so far.

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overloaded  
Years ago

Brisbane wont make the 4. How ordinary was that!

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Gibbo still playing for the 6ers!!!!

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Hendo8888  
Years ago

WE WON A CLOSE GAME!!!!!

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LV  
Years ago

Damn.

What a win by Adelaide. What a league this year. There's just no weak teams. After two rounds, only winless team is Cairns and they've only played twice, both close losses on the road....

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peter  
Years ago

to be 2-2 after 4 games with 3 of them on the road after losing our 1st game by 34 is a great effort by the youngest squad in the comp.

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LV  
Years ago

And I tend to agree whoever said Bris misses top 4. Great rebounding, huge team will win plenty of games by grinding teams out. But not enough top shelf game winning talent, and that was clear tonight.

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KET  
Years ago

Didn't expect to go 2-2 against Melb x2, Hawks and Brizzy away

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Luuuc  
Years ago

That was a top win. Still haven't made my mind up about Sobey overall but you sure can't fault his energy.

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Benno  
Years ago

brisbane still have an import spot open? Why not bring in another american wouldnt do any harm?

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Zodiac  
Years ago

I think they said Bairstow was essentially replacing a third import.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Great win to be 2-2 after 4 games, 3 of them on the road is fantastic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Luuuc, you haven't made your mind up? Every game Sobey gets more than 1-2 mins per sub, he plays great. Check his numbers of the last two games and line them up with the time on court! You probably still prefer Drmic....

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Congrats Adelaide, special win.

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

What a game!!

Randle played great, one of his best, did less of the over dribbling into 5 players stuff too.

Sobey played great, most of the game, i like him at sg, he is more Chris Goulding than Ced Jackson, so i would leave him at the sg, with a pg on with him.

I cant beleive 36ers won, i was thinking we would lose with Creek, so to win without him is a GREAT effort by Joey and the boys

But yep the lack of system to get shooters open looks still exists unfortunately,

But credit where credit due to Joey and the team!

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koberulz  
Years ago

Luuuc, you haven't made your mind up? Every game Sobey gets more than 1-2 mins per sub, he plays great.
Both games this weekend he's taken incredibly stupid pull-up threes on the fast break in the closing minutes.

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FM  
Years ago

EJ played his heart out. Best of all, he kept himself in the game.

I thought Ferguson did well. Defence is not his strength but he huddled well, helped out well and above all didn't get caught in the wild foul allocation lottery.

The flop tech was game changing. The team was pissed after that complete apply the rules for your home team Toni. Nice way to fight back on the scoreboard.

I hope for Mayberry sake he doesn't have most of his games with Toni all year because that will destroy the brilliant fair level headed referee that he is

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ME  
Years ago

"NBL defenses are the WORST in any basketball competition around the world.

It tells you something that where Randle canmcome in and look like Lebron at his peak on the offensive end yet cant get a look in the NBA or a get a start in Europe"

Randle was chosen for the Ukrainian national team for a reason - he can ball. Ukraine are no walkovers either.

And he hardly looks like Lebron in his peak. They're completely different types of players.

Randle is a tough match up in this league because he has unique speed. He would probably even give guys in the NBA a bit of trouble too for the same reason. In fact, he was very close a number of times to making the NBA.

And to say the NBL defenses are the worst in the world is a suspect call when the CBA teams who came to face us in the preseason were routinely thrashed by 50-60 points.

It also holds little weight when some fringe NBA players and a few Ex-NBA guys struggle to perform here. Frankly, if you believe NBL defenses are some of the worst in the world, you have no idea what you're talking about.

Do you think there aren't leagues in the world where Torrey Craig and Terrance Ferguson would have field days in the open court throwing down massive dunks?

They have the ability to do it. The reason they don't is because the defense around the rim in the NBL and the strategy to slow them down is very, very good.


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As for the win, it was a massive upset. I expected to go winless for 8 weeks with Creek out.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Don't get sucked into responding to the troll mate, everyone that knows anything about basketball knows the big reason why Randle isn't in the NBA is because he's 5'9".

There's no question he's got NBA talent, number of guys in the NBA couldn't come over here and produce like he does in this league but when you're that short you really need to standout and prove to them your height wouldn't be an issue in the NBA which it would.

Probably only 6-7 players his height or shorter that have ever played in the NBA too.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

Randle is awesome.
The fact he is so short adds to my admiration for his ability.

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Master Chief  
Years ago

Captain Jack, i agree with you. Adelaide are obviously doing things well to get these tough road wins but i'm concerned about how they plan to get Ferguson and Drmic firing. They need to be getting off more 3 point attempts than they currently are.

Good effort and fantastic win. I really love what EJ brings. He's making life tough for opposition big men and can alter shots without fouling.

It's hard to fault Sobey but i still prefer him as an energy spark off the bench even though he has been fantastic. He needs to wisen up on some of his decision making and have a bit more court vision.

It's the unpopular view but i want to see Drmic and Ferguson in the starting 5 while Creek is out. I prefer the balance and it doesn't mean they need to play more minutes than Sobey or Teys.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Koberulz, so does Randle, Goulding and many other players, but without them, your not even in the game. Master Chief, I'd agree if Drmic was up to the speed of the game. I feel the current best lineup would be Randle, Sobey, Ferg, DJ and Jacobsen. Another note, pay attention to the dimes that Sobey has been dropping, he led the team in assists tonight too!

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

I agree in principal master chief

But given Joey isnt likely to change his style and use shooters better, i wouldnt start Drmic, he just hasnt done much, isnt going to get looks, and has got frustrated and makes some dome decisions like the flop, so i guess Drmic has to round out his game better and find a way to contribute, maybe even be a little more selfish and jack a few shots like everyone else does to see if Joey will give him some more shots or something, i dont generally like that type of thing, but it could be the only way for him to contribute, or he has to become a lock down defender or something, he isnt overly quick or athletic, he sorta gotta be Teys's back up and play like Teys does, safe, smart and play defense and keep your cool!

So id go fast and athletic and start Randle, Sobey, Ferguson in the pg/sg/sf spots whilst creek is out, but i suspect Teys will start ahead of Ferguson

personally i think Ferguson should be thrown in the deep end and forced to swim wiht plenty of minutes and responsibility, i rate him and think he would be fine, and given he wont be here next year, what are we saving him for?

But dont let Sobey be a main ball handler, i trust Ferguson more, so he can be Randles support in this department

Sobey has done great, but still too many dumb pull up 3's and wild/dumb plays at times to let him run the offense too much imo, needs a better basketball iq if he wants to be a pg, but cant fault his attitude, agression and effort to go with his obvious athleticism and skills, but yea if he becomes a star it will be a goulding/Creek mix at the sg spot, not a pg imo.

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Mock  
Years ago

NBL is a good QUALITY league. If you don't like it, leave it. It is better off without GOOBERS like Tempo you probably don't even have a membership or CONTRIBUTE any $ to the great game here you just whinge. SAD

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sixtiesrockstar  
Years ago

Jacobsen sets good strong screens for ballhandler. Little things that go unnoticed. He also seems better facing the rim starting from foul line and cutting in, rather than posting and backing in. He is too mobile for opposition bigs.
Great to see Sobey getting rewards for his effort and energy. Got us back into game against Melb, was great again.
Sixers give up too many offensive rebounds giving ball up with soft turnovers.

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NBL Fan  
Years ago

Teys has been seriously average this season. He does two things; miss shots and complain to the refs.

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cavolo  
Years ago

Great win by the Sixers! Love their intent to keep their heads up when things don't go their way, especially the very frustrating, inconsistent umpiring. They were smashed on the boards but kept at it all night.

For the Joey haters, ease up! The guy can clearly coach and has done so very well for many years. A little bit of rational thinking would clearly show you that if he couldn't coach, players, owners and peers would suss him out and he would be moved on pretty quickly. I'll choose to err on the side of trusting those in the know. Suggestion, get behind him, the team and the club and be pleasantly surprised by the work he and his assistants are doing to develop such a young squad that after only 4 games, appears to be a very exciting and competitive team. Yes, they're going to have their dumb turnovers, blood rushes to the head resulting in ill advised shots, get beat occasionally on simple back cuts or brush screens, but I'm confident they'll learn and grow from each game.

Looking forward to enjoy the ups and downs of the ride the team will provide in '16/17! :)

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Master Chief  
Years ago

Captain jack, I can't see Teys and Sobey being long term starters so it seems slightly ad hoc to play them in front of our younger signings if we accept that challenging this season may be a bit beyond us. Like i say, i'd start Drmic and Ferguson but have Teys and Sobey ready to steady the ship but i can accept why most can't see the logic in that.

I just don't want to see Drmic fall out of favour. He's here for two years and should be part of the bigger picture. Obviously we need to wait and see though and i can certainly see why people would oppose my position on what Joey should be aiming to do if Sobey keeps getting the job done. Certainly Ferguson for Teys though.

Anonymous 475- Yes, the postive aspects of Sobey's game have not gone unnoticed. I wasn't bagging him at all.

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

"Teys has been seriously average this season. He does two things; miss shots and complain to the refs."

This.

Him starting is a joke.

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

100% agree with you MAster Cheif

Just reckon Joey will keep his starting 5 from tonight and continue what has happened thus far

I personally think we should build our aussie content around Drmic, Creek, Deng going forward, DJ if he sticks around needs to be on less $$ and maybe given a Melmeth type role in 2003 when he came off the bench, and was a impact player, as he goes missing, doesnt have enough toughness or iq to be our main guy going forward imo

See if Drmic can become a top notch shooter, but need to run some plays for him, and he atleast hustles on defense and seems unselfish and reasonably smart player,

See if Creek can become our Mackinnon/Saville

See if Deng can become our Garnett type guy

Then grab a big guy like a Maric, Holyfield, Ogilvy or even Jervis or Brandt

Another couple of imports, a scorer (Randle) and a guy who is long athletic, plays de, can handle the ball ala Mee or DThomas

Some good structure at both ends and away we go

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

Joe Ingles or Dan Dillon would also be great options in my guy who is long athletic, plays de, can handle the ball , run the offense a bit ala Mee or DThomas

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Koberulz, bad pull ups or not he has played well above his pay grade and he is a potential game changer in small spurts. Personally my mind is made up, he can play at this level.

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NBL Fan  
Years ago

Drmic also looks very nervous (which can be expect) but also somewhat flustered. Hopefully its just a short phase and he can get more comfortable.

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cavolo  
Years ago

Captain Jack, how about we give the players and coaching staff a little more time to build in season '16/17? Seems like there is a little impatience going on for some when these young bloods have just come out of college, first time playing pro men's and in the NBL. Give 'em time to adjust, learn the ropes and develop! ;) Apart from a blow out in game one of the season due to one blindingly hot quarter by the Hawks, Joey has coached the team to winning two games out of four (3 on the road) and almost snatched another after losing their captain after 5 mins and digging themselves a big hole. Enjoy the journey... :)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm a Perth fan so was a neutral observer, but I watched pretty much all of that game and I must say it was one of the best games I've sat through in recent years. Not just close, but high quality.

Props to both teams.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Drimic 12 minutes, no shot attempts no assists, 3 rebounds. And Ferguson must seriously be concerned about his choice to go pro. It's Randles team and I can see why when he is on, but doesn't leave much room for a NBA prospect to actually become a prospect.

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

Oh yea, loving the journey

More than happy to give the team time, its the youngest and cheapest in the league, its exciting too, im backing Drmic in to succeed as an exanmple of patience for players adjusting to NBL.

Stoked we won without Creek, thouht we would lose for 8 weeks without creek

Just a few frustrations with Joeys coaching style/system and see it hurting a couple of our players form a bit, but hey not saying Joey doesnt do a good job, getting road wins against Melb and Bris with our young and cheap team is a awesome effort, what im saying about the system, etc are not new to me, been the same for the last couple of years, but hard to fault the performance overall, we have acheived around what i expected or better in Joeys time,

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cavolo  
Years ago

Anon '495 - not sure if this is Terrence's team to just come and do whatever to get himself an NBA gig. Think the team comes first, fans, sponsors etc desire to also get some wins along the way!?

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Luuuc  
Years ago

"Luuuc, you haven't made your mind up? Every game Sobey gets more than 1-2 mins per sub, he plays great. Check his numbers of the last two games and line them up with the time on court!"


Anon, I'm not dissing Sobey. I just don't have a handle on what his ceiling realistically is. There's certainly no questioning how much and how quickly he can impact a game.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cavalo, im sure that exactly how they sold Ferguson on the gig too (insert sarcasm). He would've been promised all sorts of things revolving around him being the man. He is setting his sights on the NBA, not a nice little stint in Adelaide. Scouts want stats and plays run for these guys, not to see well he avg 10 and 5 and they won some games. Business to all this my friend. I don't think its going to plan from Fergusons side and what he was expecting.

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Joshuapending  
Years ago

The bit that is weird about Ferguson is that he had this elite talent with his shot but we seem to be nothing to utilise it. We should have a few plays to run him off some screen action and get him shots, hell he gets the shot off so quick we only need to give him a little window.

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Double Clutch  
Years ago

You guys talking about Ferguson's decision being a disaster - what are you on about? So far this has been going perfect for him.

He's averaging shy of 10ppg, getting paid while learning about being a professional. You can already see improvement in his game from those early pre-season hit-outs where he was posting 0-0-0 on 0-5 shooting.

Scouts are high on him for his body, athleticism and quick release. He's now getting and making looks from post-up opportunities. In the pre-season he looked scared to step inside the three point line. You can see the star potential in him.

Remember an older Stephen Jackson got cut from the Kings and was a massive disappointment in a weaker version of the NBL in the late 90s and yet went on to have a really good NBA career.

If you were expecting him to put up 20ppg you are greatly underestimating the NBL. Not many 18 year olds can hang in this league.

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Captain Jack  
Years ago

Exactly josh

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cavolo  
Years ago

4 games anon, 4 games.... give it time.

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LV  
Years ago

Randle played Summer League a few times and posted decent numbers. Clearly has NBA skills

He's the best player in the NBL right now. No question.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Stephen Jackson wasn't a massive disappointment, he was a promising young player who copped a season-ending injury very early on in the season.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

On Ferguson some people don't realise NBA scouts wouldn't be looking at his numbers as much as his potential and attitude playing in a pro environment on a team where he isn't 'the man' which will surely be the case in the NBA too.

He was likely never going to dominate here and it won't hurt his draft standing next year either look at Brandon Jennings he struggled badly his first pro season out of high school in Italy and was still a Top 10 pick the next year.

Emmanuel Mudiay too had an indifferent season in China straight out of high school struggled with injury played alright but hardly dominated and was still a Top 10 pick after that.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Drmic was a great shooter in college. Drmic was a great Junior. He is not a great pro....yet. He needs a lot of work on his body, so he can use the skills he has previously used. It will have to be a huge offseason for him. Not sure you'd build a team around him just yet. We also need to remember that he is 24, going on 25, so not exactly a 'young' player.

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Luuuc  
Years ago

Exactly. It's not like he's going to step into the NBA and immediately be the man there either, so how he handles himself in this situation is highly relevant.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm not sure where all this top-10 draft pick talk came from in regards to Ferguson. DraftExpress currently has him going at 24.

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Double Clutch  
Years ago

Luuuc - Thanks for picking up on that error on my part. That was the era were the Kings were cycling through imports and under-achieving (performance wise I think I was getting mixed up with Drew Barry - who obviously being a different player who looks totally different did play eight games with the Kings a few years after Jackson, get cut and then immediately got picked up by Golden State).

Zodiac and yourself have articulated the point better than I was attempting to, and that is no one of any importance is worried that he's not dropping 20.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

4. Games but if he were any other import, we as fans would be wondering what other options are available. I like the idea of a draft farm in the league but I wish the 36ers weren't the guinea pig for this. We needed a big talent to combo with randle and we don't have anyone. For the record I really hope ferguson makes it and goes to the show, but this is not anywhere near a good start. And saying he is playing well compared to earlier even more brutal games in the preseason isn't much of an argument.

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Double Clutch  
Years ago

Okay, good point re we would consider him under performing if he was a regular import. The argument would be then could we use the money we pay him to get a better local or import?

I don't know what he is on, but I would presume we would not be breaking the bank for him. We might be able to get a better import at his price point, but I wouldn't be certain of it. He's certainly been good for publicity in a crowded marketplace.

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Master Chief  
Years ago

Cavolo, The points raised about how players are utilised wasn't intended to be negative for the sake of being negative.

And you're right, it's easy to forget they some of the guys under discussion are very early in their rookie years.

It's more so just concern as to how they're being used in the system. Drmic and Ferguson need to be on the end of some properly constructed sets to get their shots going and confidence up. So far it hasn't really been the case and it doesn't seem as if Joey intends to play that way.

It's just an observation more so than impatience. Especially when a few people are already calling Drmic a dud ETC.

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Rat10  
Years ago

That was an awesome game. The last quarter and OT were very entertaining.

How anyone can criticise Sobey after that performance is beyond me. Surely a break out game by him and a beneficiary of Creek going down. 21 points on a 9-14 clip with 6 dimes for good measure. Plus he used his athleticism brilliantly on defence picking off a pass late in OT that led to his fastbreak where he was ultimately blocked by Craig but still a great steal. He also changed Gibbo's last shot with a great contest. Little things like that matter.

Hardly anyone would have picked the Sixers to win that one so a great performance. It's going to be a wild ride as a Sixer's fan this season but it's great when they have these unexpected victories.

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FM  
Years ago

We are 66% on the road lmao

Ferguson release is so quick but sweet. Athlete, can let the ball fly and has determination even against some clearly bigger opponents. Ball skills are there. I think at the end of this 12months he is going to look far better than 1 year of college underneath him.

People forget they talk about how good Drmic was in college but isn't up to the NBL. Leaves me scratching my head wondering what side of the coin are people on.

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XY  
Years ago

Drmic just looks like he is still finding his feet. Needs to get some belief that he belongs on the court with adults. I hope he gets his confidence up soon though, because for a shooter every shot he has put up so far has been a brick.

You wouldn't be able to pick at the moment that Drmic is two months older than Creek!

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XY  
Years ago

Randle is such a transcendent talent and just repeatedly does things that should be impossible. His highlight reel from that game alone is impressive. Even if the Sixers do stink this year, everyone should go to Sixers games for the chance to watch Randle play.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I'm all good for ferguson to slowly develop and by 12 months time be greats good for him, not so great for the team I support that needs a stud import NOW! How are people ok with this draft school mentality.

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Double Clutch  
Years ago

Because most likely we wouldn't get a stud import for the money he is on.

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swish  
Years ago

36ers have probably broken the bank to keep Randle and wouldn't we all be angry if they didn't do that. Imagine the noise if he was now playing for Melb or possibly worse- for Perth! He looks like the best player we've had in the NBL for a long long time.
How long since people would get there admission value just watching 1 guy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Back on the topic of the game: Kickert only took one three (and he's only taken 4 threes in 3 games). Given that Kickert is such a great 3P shooter, surely Lemanis should be drawing up more plays to utilise this elite skill.

Does Lemanis like using or know how to use stretch 4/5s? Because I recall thinking the same thing while watching the Boomers: that Andersen should have been taking more threes.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Double Clutch,

I questioned the wisdom of the Ferguson signing. I would've thought he would be a relatively cheap import and knowing how much guys straight out of HS tend to struggle their first year in the pro's didn't think we would get much production out of him.

Others said he actually is on decent money, which I personally don't understand but supposedly it's what it took to lure him over here especially as he's projected to be a lottery pick next year.

If he's cheap I can understand the gamble in the hope maybe he comes good in the second half of the season once he finds his feet playing against pro's but if he's on good money as I was told on here he is I just don't get that.

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Anon, aside from Kickert being as soft as butter he cares more about his shooting percentages so if he doesn't feel like he's on he just stops taking threes.

That was obvious at MU so still not sure why Brisbane bothered to sign him. He's a big man version of Gibbo always being paid way above his actual output.

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Double Clutch  
Years ago

Zodiac - There are articles out there from the time of his signing with Under Armour with some figures quoted.

The numbers quoted are high but I also remember quotes about his "contract being complicated." My guess is the 36ers only account for a certain amount of his payment, with sponsorship from Under Armour and others making up the rest.

I can't be certain of course, but reading between the lines of the article at the time it seemed to make sense. Quite smart and pro-active of the Sixers to get a guy who wouldn't be within our reach if true.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ferguson is on insane money for what his output is, much more than people think. But he cant be cut based on some odd things within in contract apparently. Jacobsen and Drimic could've been a combined salary to pay on really good import imo. neither is winning the 36ers too many games.

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FM  
Years ago

If the Ferguson year works, who steps up next year. How many put their hand up from D League for a year in Adelaide under coach wright? This year was not going to be a massive spend. Hold on to the guys who work the hardest off the court, keep Randell and support him with a few young spots we need to fill.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon 602653 - there are reports about that insane figure, but are you certain that this paid by the 36ers? I have heard the component the 36ers pay is reasonable.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah he is being paid from other sources, its a very odd one, and because of it, he cant be cut. So the risk is definitely there imo But for mine, just because you get a discount from your own pockets, doesn't justify bringing in an 18 year old in the hope he is NBA ready and we reap the initial rewards. Think joey may have been doing a mate a solid in this signing, but its murky. I just think you don't cut corners in signing imports, use your money and get the best available who is ready to compete and make impact from day one. Sure TF may make it, but its not going to happen any time soon, and really the only loser is the 36ers club, as he will be gone next season regardless.

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KET  
Years ago

Ferguson isn't the issue with the 36ers

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Pop  
Years ago

'Jacobsen and Drimic could've been a combined salary to pay on really good import imo. neither is winning the 36ers too many games.'

Drimic may or may not make it, but Jacobsen? I must be watching different games. He's definitely a keeper from what I'm seeing.

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Master Chief  
Years ago

Pop, completely agree. People need to look harder at what EJ is providing. It's what we've lacked for a while.

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BigAds  
Years ago

As I see it EJ is filling the void created by Petrie's departure and in that regard I think the Sixers have come out in front, particularly in respect to value for money spent.

Ferg is probably comparable at this point to Ebi, but with a little more upside in terms of extended defensive pressure and points and Sobey, while not as composed as Gibbo, has delivered and at considerable less expense to the club.

Of course the money saved from not having the Gibbo and Peach contracts has probably been absorbed by retaining Jerome, and to date, rightly so.

Drimdog is the concern to me, geez I would just love to see him play the way I know he can. He seems like he is putting pressure on himself and doesn't look loose or in sync with the pace of the game. I hope he can replicate Ben Madgen's contributions, I believe he has that type of ceiling.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ket, Ferguson although not directly the problem with the 36ers, indirectly could be, as he is on a heap of coin and in comparison to other import options that are available, it becomes a problem to settle on a lesser option in a key roster spot (import). But is what it is, 36ers full of guys who will try and have heart but this team isn't a title contender. In no way was it ever assembled to win it all.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Anon - As per the discussion earlier, the figure I heard the 36ers are paying out their own pockets for Ferguson they would struggle to find someone better. Is your information otherwise? Are the 36ers paying a lot higher percentage than I am lead to believe?

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Hoopie  
Years ago

Steindl took time to settle into the league and look where he is now, so I don't have a problem with Drmic doing the same.

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