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Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The Perth Wildcats have signed American perimeter specialist, Andre Ingram, out of the NBA D-League.

In his eight seasons as a professional, Ingram has shot an impressive 45.5 per cent from range and, in his most recent season, went for a staggering 49 per cent from outside the arc.

His 583 career threes is an all-time D-League record.

The 30-year-old is excited to start his journey with the Wildcats.

"It's all happened very quickly, but I can’t wait to arrive in Australia and meet my new teammates," he said.

“To start playing with a new team so soon after arriving will be tough, but I’m confident in what I can bring to this group and will be doing all I can to help get us some important wins this weekend.

“Perth is a highly professional organisation with a community focus and I’m very excited to now be a part of that.”

Andre Ingram attended American University in Washington D.C, before playing his entire professional career in the D-League.

In four seasons with the Utah Flash, he became the team’s all-time leading scorer and won the competition’s three-point shoot-out in 2010.

He then moved to the LA Lakers-owned Los Angeles D-Fenders, where he has since become a regular fixture and again won the D-League’s three-point comp earlier this year with a record 39 makes from 50 attempts.

In the 2015/16 season, Ingram averaged 10.4 points per game, 2.8 rebounds, 1.4 assists and 1.1 steals.

“I watched Andre play last April when I was in the US, so he’s always been in the back of my mind, and we were lucky enough that he was available and ready to come over,“ said coach Trevor Gleeson.

“We thought we needed a really good threat from the perimeter. We can stretch the floor and open it up, and hopefully that will create some avenues for our guards to attack the basket.

“He’s got deep three-point range and that’s something that we need help with.”

Andre Ingram stands at 191cm and weighs 88 kilograms.

The new Wildcat is currently on board a flight to Perth and is expected to be cleared to play in Friday night’s clash against the Illawarra Hawks at Perth Arena.

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Anonymous
Last year
18:19 18 Oct 16

Reply #602788

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Yes the same quote has already been posted.


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Dazz
Last year
18:22 18 Oct 16

Reply #602790

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Is an average of 10 points in the D-League any good?

Something doesn't quite add up. He's this great 3 point shooter, shot 49%, but averaged only 10 points?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:25 18 Oct 16

Reply #602792

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Interestingly, one of his assistant coaches at the D-Fenders was a former Wildcats assistant.


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fstos
Last year
18:34 18 Oct 16

Reply #602793

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Also unusual to spend 10 years in the D league without a call up or an OS gig isnt it?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:43 18 Oct 16

Reply #602796

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Numbers look ok, real unusual looking J on him too. Not sure about this one but hopefully I'm proven wrong.


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Train
Last year
18:47 18 Oct 16

Reply #602798

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

8 Pro years , never played out of the D-League. Is that a good or bad thing.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:47 18 Oct 16

Reply #602799

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/3/14/11208282/la-lakers-la-d-fenders-andre-ingram


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Anonymous
Last year
18:48 18 Oct 16

Reply #602800

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

I don't understand this signing at all. I can kinda understand sacking Johnson if someone amazing all of a sudden becomes available, but this guy has been languishing in the D league for his entire "career". And 10 points per game in the D league is not at all impressive. WTF?


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Anonymous
Last year
18:49 18 Oct 16

Reply #602802

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Sounds like a high character guy. Tutors physics and calculus to students while on the road with the d league to earn his living. Hasn't played over seas before because of his wife and two kids.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:51 18 Oct 16

Reply #602803

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

LOL career 10 pts a game in the D League which is a better league than the NBL. Think he will be fine. They obviously decided they wanted more of a pure shooter and they found it. Good luck to them for making a decision early.


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fstos
Last year
18:52 18 Oct 16

Reply #602804

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

"Sounds like a high character guy. Tutors physics and calculus to students while on the road with the d league to earn his living. Hasn't played over seas before because of his wife and two kids".

With Waxy going soon and this guy coming in the Cats IQ level just got a turbo boost.


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fstos
Last year
18:54 18 Oct 16

Reply #602805

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The D league is not a better league than the NBL. It may have better individual players but teamwork and team D are way bellow the NBL level.


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FM
Last year
19:04 18 Oct 16

Reply #602806

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Does scoring in No D league count for anything?

Hopefully someone picks up Johnson and he ends up destroying Perth each time they meet. If this was a complete gun signing, then I would support Perth. However, this is not a cream of the crop signing and it would be good to see Perth finally dropped from the playoffs (highly unlikely though).


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Anonymous
Last year
19:06 18 Oct 16

Reply #602807

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

So your "support" of Perth all hinges on one singing? I don't think Perth really cares that you don't like them much.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:12 18 Oct 16

Reply #602808

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Let's hope he's a bust.


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Mock
Last year
19:20 18 Oct 16

Reply #602809

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

oh man the mock is NERVOUS about this cat. I am hoping he can fill it up from downtown because he has a LONG record of draining the 3 at a good clip but I am not finding much intel on him. THE MIGHTY CATS front office know what they are doing though...

maybe he can use his physics knowledge to drop DIMES on mad angles on the reg and


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Mock
Last year
19:21 18 Oct 16

Reply #602810

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

that's a humourous comment fistsos! waxy is dumb as a bag of hair


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Anonymous
Last year
19:24 18 Oct 16

Reply #602813

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Cya later championship hopes.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:29 18 Oct 16

Reply #602814

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

early days but he looks a really underwhelming signing they needed a combo guard who could create his own shot in the Beal or Marvelle Harris mould.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:37 18 Oct 16

Reply #602815

Funny re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

So basically he's Oscar Forman without the height and Cleo bachelor good looks?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:39 18 Oct 16

Reply #602818

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Casey prather MVP hopes just went up. He's going to have to create everything for this wildcat team. Awful decision


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Anonymous
Last year
19:50 18 Oct 16

Reply #602820

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

What will be really funny now is if Prather keeps killing it and gets an NBA call up


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Mock
Last year
19:52 18 Oct 16

Reply #602821

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

My spies say Pelicans are keeping a VERY close eye on Prather


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Anonymous
Last year
19:52 18 Oct 16

Reply #602823

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

He looks NBA ready to me.


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Benno
Last year
19:54 18 Oct 16

Reply #602824

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Cheap shooter


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DaHuzyBru
Last year
19:55 18 Oct 16

Reply #602826

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Straight up: we should of retained Beal. The Cats wanted more athleticism but by doing so, severely hurt their three-point game. With Wagstaff, our only three-point threat, struggling to shoot over the 3 over the first two rounds, something needed to be done.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:09 18 Oct 16

Reply #602828

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Since when is "should of" ever used.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:11 18 Oct 16

Reply #602829

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Ingram is an upgrade... Over Dexter kernich drew.


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ME
Last year
20:15 18 Oct 16

Reply #602830

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

D League better than NBL? The defense in D League is utterly appalling, let alone the team work.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:19 18 Oct 16

Reply #602831

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

yeah they should call it the _ League because theres no D hur hurr


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Anonymous
Last year
20:20 18 Oct 16

Reply #602832

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Another insightful post from Benno /s


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AngusH
Last year
20:32 18 Oct 16

Reply #602833

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

lol @ anonymous troll - d-league better than NBL? Not even close. There's some real talented guys in the d-league, but also a lot of guys would struggle to make the cut as locals in the NBL, let alone imports. And that's not even taking into consideration how awful the product on the court is......


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Dazz
Last year
20:34 18 Oct 16

Reply #602835

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Weird, Weird, Weird signing.

They let Beal go to get somebody better, and got JJ.
They let JJ go to get somebody better, and this is it?
If you're shooting 49% from the arc, and averaging 10. points, that means you're putting up 7 shots a game. In the D-League. WTF???

As for nongs saying "D-League is better than NBL," only reason guys go back to the D-League is because they have a shot at the NBA.

Yes, sure, people like me have been whinging for years that Perth needed to improve their 3-point shooting, and this guy sounds like a specialist,
BUT part of the problem with JJ is that he wasn't strong enough in other areas. Well if this guys can shoot 49% and can't make it out of the D-League, WTF does that tell you?


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Dazz
Last year
20:43 18 Oct 16

Reply #602836

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

He sounds like someone who would be a good signing for a team looking for a CHEAP import to supplement an already strong offensive lineup.
Well, the Cats have Prather...


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Mock
Last year
20:51 18 Oct 16

Reply #602837

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Let's give him ONE GAME before we start writing obits for the man. cats wanted a three point GUN they got one. He doesn't need to have other skills. Marto runs the show takes the best opposition wing. This cat comes in to be Kyle Korver lite.


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Roy Hobbs
Last year
21:03 18 Oct 16

Reply #602839

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

It sounds like he chose to play in the D-League due to his family. Maybe now his kids are old enough for him to leave the country and make better money?


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Train
Last year
21:17 18 Oct 16

Reply #602840

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Lets give him a go before we start crucifying the guy. If he can blaze away behind the arc at over 40% and is able to get a shots off behind some screens then he will suit the team fine.


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Dazz
Last year
21:27 18 Oct 16

Reply #602842

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

It's a weird signing, simple as that.

Obviously, my fervent hope, is that it works out.
At the very least I want the Cats to stay competitive, win most of their home games, and make the finals.

Doesn't make this signing any less strange.


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Luuuc
Last year
21:27 18 Oct 16

Reply #602843

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

He gets a free pass from me this weekend. Arriving down under, playing on the Friday, then heading back over to Melbourne for a game on the Sunday ... that's a tough initiation.
But yeah, as out there as it seems, I think I'll reserve judgement until I've actually seen him in action in the NBL. I'm hoping he can handle the ball a bit and his defence is up to Cats standard. If he hits a few shots this round it'll be a bonus.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:10 18 Oct 16

Reply #602844

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Is this purely a money saving move? So strange


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Anonymous
Last year
22:17 18 Oct 16

Reply #602845

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

epic fail


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koberulz
Last year
22:31 18 Oct 16

Reply #602846

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Is this purely a money saving move?
They just introduced a new giant inflatable mascot. They don't know what "money saving" is.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:50 18 Oct 16

Reply #602847

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Surely when knight returns, redhage will step aside to open up a spot for waxy...


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LV
Last year
23:08 18 Oct 16

Reply #602848

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The signing is about team balance, rather than overall talent. It's true that Johnson's D league stats are much better than Ingram, but it's also true that a career clip of 45% from 3, at a high volume is incredibly good in a professional basketball league. He must not have such a great all round game, because most of his points come from threes. Has low assist numbers and barely ever gets to the free throw line, suggesting he's a spot up shooter but won't help with playmaking, creativity or penetration off he dribble.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:21 18 Oct 16

Reply #602850

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

So he's a one trick pony and that one trick is spot up shooting, which is one of the easiest ones to source. In fact I'm pretty sure that's Dexter kernichs role, although he can't buy a bucket right now. I'm pretty sure you can find guys week simply specialise in threes at sbl or seabl level.

And why is Johnson the victim of this? I don't have the numbers but his three point numbers so far wouldn't be too shabby.

If anything you could get rid of McKay, as you have knight returning and you still have Brandt wagstaff redhage. I'm not saying I don't like McKay but I'm saying if it's purely a team balance or more shooters view.


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LV
Last year
23:27 18 Oct 16

Reply #602852

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

It's certainly an interesting move as a departure from what's worked over the past 7 years.

Martin has always had a combo guard next to him. Lisch and Beal can handle the ball, are creative, decent passers and can shoot the three or take it to the rack. They're versatile players with wide skill sets at the guard spot. Something a specialist 3 point shooter like Ingram presumably is not.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:35 18 Oct 16

Reply #602853

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Exactly right. You need ball handling and shooting guards next to marto because he's not an offensive threat.

So you keep beal or you live with Johnson who is slightly less prolific from downtown but makes up for it in other areas with his athleticism.

Not a guy who just stands in the corner. Not to mention this means marto must have a very big offensive load in addition to his unreal efforts on defense. You are going to wear him out. Gleeson playing him huge minutes too. Just a massive worry


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Anonymous
Last year
23:35 18 Oct 16

Reply #602854

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

So basically Ingram will go stand in the corner and tie up a defender and the rest of the team will play 3 on 4 since Martin is not a threat to score. Sounds like a recipe for dropping to 8th best in the league offensively. If he's not a good defender the cats are screwed.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:44 18 Oct 16

Reply #602857

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The worst day as a wildcat supporter for over ten years. Just when they're cracking record membership as well


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Anonymous
Last year
00:06 19 Oct 16

Reply #602860

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

'My spies say Pelicans are keeping a VERY close eye on Prather'

Pelicans already have 18 players signed. Surely we can't be having more before the season gets underway.


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Zodiac
Last year
00:42 19 Oct 16

Reply #602866

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

This looks a bit of a funny signing by the Wildcats.

You can argue whether Johnson was the right fit as he seemed like he was a bit too similar to Prather but to replace him with a guy who only averages 10 points a game in the d-league as an undersized shooting guard who by the looks of things doesn't do anything in a game other than make 2 or 3 three pointers a game?

The guy is 31 too and never played in a real pro league before (d-league is basically jungle ball). He's also spent a few periods of months at a time and in one case a whole season out of the d-league.

I understand he's got other things going on but all this doesn't strike me as someone who is that devoted to being a pro or interested in getting the best out of himself, more like a bit of a hobby something on the side. He might decide he doesn't like Perth or Australia, being his first real pro gig at 31 and just up and leave and go back home after a handful of games.

Johnson IMO didn't deserve to be cut so quickly but if so you do it if you've got some knock it out of the park star already lined up not a guy who might even struggle as a SEABL level import.


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koberulz
Last year
00:45 19 Oct 16

Reply #602869

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

And why is Johnson the victim of this? I don't have the numbers but his three point numbers so far wouldn't be too shabby.
Shoots 60% from three, leading the team. Not sure where that is in the league rankings, because the NBL improved their website by making it impossible to use.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:26 19 Oct 16

Reply #602873

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

"The guy is 31 too and never played in a real pro league before (d-league is basically jungle ball). He's also spent a few periods of months at a time and in one case a whole season out of the d-league.

I understand he's got other things going on but all this doesn't strike me as someone who is that devoted to being a pro or interested in getting the best out of himself, more like a bit of a hobby something on the side."

I watched a couple of Ingram's interviews on YouTube and he did strike me as a very laid back guy who didn't take the results of the team too seriously. I guess that's what playing in the D-League for 10 years does to you.


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Anonymous
Last year
01:56 19 Oct 16

Reply #602877

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Extremely mixed feelings about this whole situation.

but in the interests of giving the new player a fair shake an interesting read for those questioning his professionalism and approach to the game.

http://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2016/3/14/11208282/la-lakers-la-d-fenders-andre-ingram

also his mins were only 25 per game for 10pts last season. not as bad as it initially sounds


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Ricky
Last year
12:43 19 Oct 16

Reply #602906

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Yep, General Consensus = Underwhelming

Was hoping for a flashy 6'4 / 6'5 gun combo with mad crossover moves, eurostep and an awesome nickname and some dunks.. and of course a pretty looking jumper..

Dolla had a sweet looking jumper..


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Anonymous
Last year
16:52 19 Oct 16

Reply #602933

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Ingram has been cleared to play.

Very quick turnaround. makes me think this has been in the works since the start of the season.


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Luuuc
Last year
18:22 19 Oct 16

Reply #602939

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Andre Ingram press conference:
https://audioboom.com/posts/5180874-andre-ingram-press-conference-19-october-2016


"I'd actually been waiting for the call for a while ..."


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KBRulzRulz
Last year
18:50 19 Oct 16

Reply #602941

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Sounds like he was approached during the NBA summer by the cats. And told of their situation.

Him waiting for the call could mean numerous things.

Could mean he was waiting for THE call... by any club.

Could mean he was waiting for the Wildcats to call after talks during the summer

Could mean he signed paper work a few weeks back and was waiting on the call for confirmation.

Ingram is also very articulate and well spoken. Johnson was not.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:53 19 Oct 16

Reply #602945

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Might have needed time to tie off loose ends and Johnson was the fill-in


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Anonymous
Last year
18:55 19 Oct 16

Reply #602947

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

agreed^^


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Luuuc
Last year
23:03 20 Oct 16

Reply #603134

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Ingram interview (long!) from ~ 2 months ago on the Locked on Lakers podcast.

https://audioboom.com/posts/4967587-locked-on-lakers-8-24-16-andre-ingram-talks-about-his-time-with-the-d-fenders-and-life-in-the-d-league


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KBRulzRulz
Last year
23:19 20 Oct 16

Reply #603135

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Any idea what Ingram would have been paid during his D-league run??


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Dazz
Last year
23:52 20 Oct 16

Reply #603136

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

If you read his backstory, he sounds like a decent bloke. No problem with that.

It makes sense that they would go for somebody they had previously scouted. But it makes it clear that the Cats had previously spoken to him, and it didn't come off. So its not like this has been in the pipeline. In fact he says that it was very sudden when the call did come.
This just sounds more and more like something happened with JJ, and they had to scramble to find someone quick.

I'm hoping that he could do as discussed and really stretch the offense. Perth hasn't had such a threat before. Beal put up a lot of 3's but only made about 33%.


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Luuuc
Last year
23:54 20 Oct 16

Reply #603137

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The Cats clearly did more than just scout him


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XY
Last year
09:34 21 Oct 16

Reply #603144

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Props to the Cats organisation that whatever did clearly happen with JJ behind the scenes has stayed secret. Rumours of that stuff usually leaks out pretty quickly.


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Anonymous
Last year
11:01 21 Oct 16

Reply #603148

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Probably because there are no rumours.

Not every player release is a scandal.


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Train
Last year
13:03 21 Oct 16

Reply #603163

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

This sounds very promising...

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/32959878/hawks-get-info-on-new-perth-nbl-import/#page1

"Michael Holyfield actually played with him last season in the D-League with Los Angeles D-Fenders," Hawks' coach Rob Beveridge told AAP.

"He gave us a bit of a brief scouting report on Wednesday morning.

"He says he's the best shooter he's ever played with.

"They called him 99, as in 99 per cent of the time it's going in, if he's open."


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Anonymous
Last year
16:24 23 Oct 16

Reply #603634

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

So 2 games in, has this been the right decision?

I think so


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Anonymous
Last year
16:45 23 Oct 16

Reply #603637

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Get buckets or die trying. He is 50 per cent.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:48 23 Oct 16

Reply #603639

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

When he's open he doesn't jump straight up and down, he jumps massively forwards and land well in front of the three point line.


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leungtl
Last year
16:55 23 Oct 16

Reply #603641

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Considering he's played more games than had training sessions (and flying to Melbourne isn't a short trip either!), you'd probably say 5/10 from 3PT is a success...


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Train
Last year
16:59 23 Oct 16

Reply #603644

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

I'm liking him so far. Once Perth start to run more plays to get him open he should be more productive.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:08 23 Oct 16

Reply #603646

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Considering the circumstances, its been a solid 2 games. He'll improve a lot over the next couple of weeks when he settles in more. Definitely need to run some plays for him though.

Got a couple of shots today where he pulled up after dribbling for a little which was good to see, shows he's not always just a spot up shooter.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:01 23 Oct 16

Reply #603717

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Looks like he was warming up in the second half today. Was pretty impressed with the corner three. Wesley wasn't helping off that much and he still wasnt close enough.


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paul
Last year
22:16 23 Oct 16

Reply #603722

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

In four days Ingram has flown from the USA to Aus, played a game, flown all the away across the country to play another game and has hit 5/10 from deep. Now that's a shooter!


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Dazz
Last year
22:29 23 Oct 16

Reply #603723

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

The Cats clearly did more than just scout him
Why argue over a piece of terminology????

As I said, the Cats had spoken to him, presumably in detail if you're contemplating recruiting the guy and want to convince him to move half-way around the world. And they decided at that time to go for JJ.
Anybody suggesting any more than that needs to break out the alfoil hat.

I imagine they spoke to a few players.
In a sense, its good to know that even at that time they were looking at a variety of types.


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James
Last year
10:38 24 Oct 16

Reply #603756

re: Wildcats sign Andre Ingram

Once the Wildcats bigs start setting down screens for him to curl to the top of the key off the baseline cuts hence giving him much better looks this guy will connect on more shots then not. He has a interesting shooting form, but even his misses are looking good. There was two rim outs in the game against the Hawks. He easily could be 7-10 so far from the land of the plenty.


You can clearly see he is trying to figure out where to be on the offensive sets. I think by mid-season this guy will be very handy.


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