Re last game I was referring to Hawks Kings 1 in the Gong. Very close finish.

Ogilvy hasnt been making enough impact scoring wise so he's another to watch tonight.

Forget about Rotnei being due, what about that old war horse Oskar Forman?

Jason Cadee having a great season and will be tested tonight. Gee, Kings have got out early and offer a bit more across most matchups.

While the Hawks are everyone's second team, even those from Wollongong, I think they might be unlucky tonight in what will be a great game.

"Kings have been impressive but vulnerable due to a lack a guard depth at the minute."

ie: No. Blake is not in.

LV, yourv tipping the Hawks? What happened to " Sydney then daylight " :P

I'm predicting it'll be Sydney then daylight by season's end, and that they might end up finishing a couple of games clear or more on the ladder. Not suggesting they will win every game!

(And again that assumes everyone is healthy including Blake and Khazzouh by season's end. And that other teams- especially the other ones who could go close like perth and Melb- don't make personnel changes. But we all know that's quite possibly not going to be the case. Already rumoured that our goggled friend Devin could be packing his bags soon).

"Already rumoured that our goggled friend Devin could be packing his bags soon"

Hope someone helps him on to the plane....he might miss the door

As usual, very concerned about this game as a Kings fan... I can't remember the last time we had won consecutive games, so expecting it to all come crashing down, and usually Hawks are the ones to do it... Fingers crossed their outside shots keep not dropping as that will be a huge factor...

I hope a decent crowd makes it out on a school night tonight, with Cirque du Soleil performing at half time, it should be a huge improvement to the usual wannabe rappers that we got last season...

Sounds like the halftime entertainment will be better than the baby race where most of the lazy farkers didn't get off the start line. That gave everyone a good chuckle.

Hawks going to be playing with some fire I would imagine after a disappointing couple of games. Definitely a danger game for Sydney.

The Hawks were hardly disappointing in Perth. They played a pretty good game I thought and had a chance to win after being down by7 17 in the 3rd.

17

I thought the Hawks looked real average in Perth to be honest, and if not for Kev White of all people having a career night that game ends up a blowout.

I think the key is AJ. He's always been a bit of a nancy boy and up against a couple of physical types in Maric & Powell he could go missing. If he can stand up it could be a close one

Hawks by 10, as Kings lacking back up gaurds.

A brave punter could do quite well out of the NBL this season, I expect plenty of upsets, however in this one I think at home the Kings could prove too strong and hang on for a tight win...

^that was my first thought too, anon

Can't see this being close. Sydney look one of the best defensive units in the league and the Hawks give up too many points to foot it. David and Goliath for mine. Sydney would have to have a nightmare.

Holy shit!! How hot is the fox sideline reporter!!!!

White and Ellis starting.....are the hawks playing for draft picks already?

Pretty sure Rosen was thinking of Steve Nash

Rosen just spews crap he can't control himself. Blake a former Lakers MVP? Not even Nash was an MVP for the Lakers.

Rosen just said sorry he didn't mean MVP he meant Blake was a former championship winner with the Lakers.

Blake's never won an NBA championship.

It's Monday night.. The nrl team roosters would get 4-5k on a Monday night

Games been good so far. High scoring and refs are calling a good game

Horrendous crowd. Wowee

Not a good look for the game.

Spot on call lawsy. Abby Gelmi a lot better to look at than Rose, Cadee looked a bit uncomfortable interviewed by her at half time.

Kings look like they're playing a bit half arsed and still up by 8 at half. Ridiculously stacked and Steve Blake still to arrive jeez.

Yesterday I predicted that it would soon become Sydney and then daylight.

I was wrong. It is already Sydney then daylight.

Lol @ anon betting against the Kings.

Amateur hour

And I thought Perths offence sucked. Hawks are horrible.

They've got two #1 options in Clarke & Harris. Clarke was very effective here last time as the clear #1 offensive option they need to sort that out.

It's no fluke, the amount of turnovers Sydney have been forcing lately

Terrible 3rd quarter by the Hawks but I don't think that was due to bad passing by them. Out of that 11 turnovers at least 7-8 were Kings players able to read their plays and anticipate who they're passing to. Wonder how much contribution Lisch had to figuring out the plays Bevo running and relaying that to the coaches defensive plans.

Rosen is the biggest flog, worst NBL commentator IMO

SteveK2, they did it in NZ too

How'd you get $2m?

Quick list will suffice.

Will kings seriously lose another game? Get use to seeing these kind of scores, man this is team is just stacked!!

$2M lol?? I doubt that

Demopoulos is running his team into the ground, so I don't think anyone can say 'blind freddy could coach a stacked team to a win'.

As I said in the other thread yesterday, Sydney are the only team without a weakness. They're strong at everything.

You're kidding right?
Newley - 300k
Lisch - 300k
Maric - 200k
Blake - 30k month = 150-180k
Powell - 200k
Whittington - 150k
Cadee - 120k
Khazzouh - 200k
And about 3/4 50-70k players

They're not strong at revenue.
Have you seen that crowd?? Lol

Yeah but Demopolous can't coach

Hmm yeh it adds up lol... I doubt Whittington is on $150k. But maybe the other numbers are close

From my sources Vickerman pretty much coaches the team...he definitely runs the practices as I've been to some to watch. Gaze is a figure head...an expensive figure head getting 400k

Whittington is on let's say 15-20k US a month? Here for 8months so works out to be about 150k

Kings are way over cap, poor fanbase, fairweather fans in a smoggy city, rich owner who wants to buy a championship.

Lol, a lot of toss talk in this thread.

Vickerman is not coaching...Gaze runs the show.

It's $1.5m roster....similar to United.

Not sure I could believe Khazzouh & Maric are on $200K each nor Whittington on $150K.

Bo Liu action

ROFL, I bet this is your first time on here, you're probably a Kings fan and think you know everything about basketball when you're likely a 12 year old boy 5'5" who can't muster the strength to shoot a 3.

Lel

The NBL credited Holyfield for that 3 at the end when it was Clarke...

"LEL" - 12 year old boy for sure, here come all the Kings fans out of the woodwork all of a sudden...

I cant wait until this Kings team absolutely THROTTLES 36ers.
I cant wait until that rubbish 36ers defense gives up the same looks they did on Friday night to the woeful Taipans against Lisch, Cadee, Newley, Blake and Whittington.

Good luck with that.

36ers will thrash the King's, King's have played no one but pretenders so far, easy as piss run. Hopefully Newley gets a good hit on the head (maybe a bit like Glen on the walking dead)

Strewth kids... discuss the game, not each other! Talk about word pollution

Very Un Illawarra, un Bevo coached team like performance. Say what you like about the talent the Kings have assembled but they let Hill, Prewster and Garlepp come into the game in the 1st half and make plays and just roll over them.
Nice win

ROFL you honestly think Gaze runs the show? Lol. You really have no idea! Go watch a Kings practice and get back to us on here

3rd Q was probably the best Kings performance I've since the title years. Crowd was just over 4k, not as bad as it looks in that arena.

Good analysis, anon.

Hahahaha love the violent crumbles reference. Shit chocolate bar just perfect for a shit team.

more like those who are fans of decent franchises are coming out to hate on a shit franchise like the kings.

Oh dear, some butthurt anon Hawks fans here. :(

Obviously I don't follow the Kings, but who cares?

I've been here a lot longer than you, but who cares?

I'm likely much older than you, but who cares?

I wish I could say I'm a hawks fan but no... sorry try again

*Gets Popcorn*

Hawks won't make the top 4. Rotnei playing like ass.. They will be 1-7 very soon

Rotnei only looked good in a weak year for shooters. People have scouted him, he's so inconsistent from anywhere but 3 and when they run him off the 3pt line, like they have been doing, he enters struggle town. Adds nothing but pitiful defense when his shot is not dropping, pretty average playmaker - 100% James Ennis should have taken his MVP.

Actually Marvelle Harris is the one who has fallen away badly.

ROFL is the worst poster here, and that's saying something. Go back to 4chan you absolute tard

*ROUND OF APPLAUSE* well done Hogwash

4000 is a decent crowd on a Monday night. NRL monday night crowds were often not much higher. Atmsosphere in the venue was good.

Sydney were impressive... whittington looks like he could take over a game, but is content to be the second or third option as well.

4,000 when NOTHING else is going on, on a Monday night? Get lost - if it wasn't for their rich meathead owner they'd have folded ages ago. city of nearly 5 million and you cannot even manage a 6,000 strong average. That is some joke level shit right there!

Hogwash and crusty have been juggling each other.

0.082% of the city population attended the game...

what a joke.

12 year old making a 12 year (potentially homophobic) joke - this kid's on fire! It's passed his bedtime though...

Crowd - a large number of people gathered together in a disorganized or unruly way.

there you go, all you had to do is type crowd into google and you would find the definition.

Someone send me a message,I'll return when this forum becomes tolerable again.

Sydney roosters get 6k on Monday night. Their Salary cap is $6-7M... Australians just don't go out on Monday nights, especially in Sydney... True test is this Sunday against bullets- no excuses if crowd is under 8k.. This team is just so good, blakes first game too.. In fact, you'd think 8k should be the minimum

Gaze may be unproven but he hasn't done a lot wrong so far.
If he is making the most of his assistants then that doesn't take the gloss off what he is doing, it just makes him smart.

Bottom line is the Hawks turned it up like sooks. They are the first team you can rule out for the title.

lets be real the vick is the real coach and Gaze the motivator.For now it is a brilliant mix in my opinion.Gaze is learning on the job and I think he has the makings of a pretty solid coach.

It makes little difference if Mickey Mouse is out the back coaching them it is what we see on the floor, and that looks pretty good to me. Josh Powell, consummate pro. No ego 16 points a night guaranteed in 20 minutes too. Withington could explode for anything.
Tom Garlepp will be in line for 6th,7th or 8th man off the bench.
Chuck in Khazzouh and they will contain everyone except maybe Perth. That could be a good one.

Chuck in Khazzouh and they will contain everyone except maybe Perth.

Wow... plenty of fuckwits in here on both sides of whatever arguments are going on...

I love this whole "city of nearly 5 million people" shit from people who obviously have no understanding of how big Sydney actually is and what they're up against...

Sydney is traditionally an NRL town... there are 500 NRL teams in here all with their rabid fanbase that either haven't been exposed to basketball or think of it as a sissy option because it doesn't have grown men running around in short shorts tackling each other... Combine that with the absolute mess that past owners and management have left the team in and there is a LOT of work to do... They're working hard off the court and there are noticeable changes around the city, but it won't just happen like flicking on a light switch...

Weeknights are tough in any sport, but especially in a city the size of Sydney... I luckily only work until 5, but still have to travel for nearly an hour home, then drive 45mins (if I'm lucky) to the game... And that's just me, I'd never take the family on a weeknight... Public transport is an issue when there isn't anything else running out at Homebush, it's a bit of a dodgy spot on a specialised line off the main circuit, so for people north and south, trains are out of the question as an option...

These are all factors at the best of times, so 4000 on a Monday night at this point in the season is pretty good... I agree with lawsy that anything less than 8k on Sunday will be a let down though... Need to be pushing this real hard...

But back on topic to the actual game... Was awesome to watch... 4th quarter fell off the rails a bit before the development players got on, and I think I lost count at 5 shot clock violations, but still, the team just clicked at both ends... I can't remember seeing the Hawks throw as many passes away as they did in that game... They just looked soft... Started off great, but what happened to AJ? Only played 28mins and after scoring 15 in the firs thalf, only managed 5 more? It's like he disappeared...

Rotnei showing his frustration at not being able to shoot the lights out like usual... He's certainly looking much less of an MVP than he did where he was clearly the top player on a weak team last time... Going after Tommy while he was laying on the court after being taken out was a grub move, even if he did slightly retaliate against Coenraad, which, considering the shot he had just taken, was fair enough...

Couldn't really separate Newls and Lisch for MVP, both played awesome at both ends, was great seeing Newley's passion and buy-in, which didn't look like was there in the pre-season, so I'm glad it's clicked for him...

wookie you're a turnip - NRL is finished for the season and even the NRL teams can't manage more than 16,000 a game you spud. it's a city of 5 million, it's the NRL offseason ya. Just accept Sydney is a pathetic state for sport. What can you expect from a city that loves rugby...

Lisch and Newls for MVP, you're off your meds - never seen someone make a prediction like that, you have not even watched a game of basketball this year but the King's games, have you?? No. Maybe you should be looking at the way Jerome Randle and Casey Prather are playing and how they are strides ahead of Lisch and Spud Newley. I hope you meant MVP of that one game because otherwise you should b

I'm so excited to find out what the rest of that post is!

lol... yeah, maybe his mum busted him for being up late on a school night? Spud? turnip? I'll take the spud, but that turnip is fighting words, you brussels sprout...

Ok, just a few things, as I'm assuming English might not be your first language... It's Wookiee, with a double E... I know, it's a little thing, and you're probably one of those people that spell it Damien Martin, but when you're criticising someone, it's important to get the details right and NOT look like a fuckwit...

Secondly, Sydney is a CITY, not a state... Unless you're not up to geography at big school yet?

Thirdly, "rugby" is the common name for Rugby Union, not League... Union has a presence here in Sydney no doubt, but I'm sure you were referring to Rugby League and not union... Again, minor things, but just a heads up for the ignorant...

You're right to a certain degree though, Sydney IS a tough CITY to get people to turn out to sporting events, mostly for the reasons that I mentioned above (along with high costs), in what I thought was an easy to understand way... Maybe you missed that bit while you were polishing your bogan uggies and slagging off anyone who was disagreeing with you?

And yes, I DID mean MVP of the game, I should have been more specific and said player of the game for those with half a brain...