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Train
Last year

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Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

From Twitter:
TimGossage -Breaking: @PerthWildcats will be without skipper Damian Martin for up to 12 weeks with a serious knee injury. @TenNewsPerth #ToBeConfirmed


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Train
Last year
17:16 7 Nov 16

Reply #606656

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Serious....Serious problem for Perth. Hope he has a speedy recovery and is back in time for finals...if they make it.


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Ricky
Last year
17:18 7 Nov 16

Reply #606658

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

That just means he'll be back next week, dont worry.


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Zodiac
Last year
17:22 7 Nov 16

Reply #606659

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

This season really sounds like it's going off the rails for Perth. Sometimes when teams have been up for so long the arse just falls out the bottom of it and with the Martin injuries, Kenny injury, JJ no Ingram yes JJ shenanigans and watching the 36ers the other night come back from nowhere to almost beat them on their home court with favourable calls needed to get them over the line it did feel like watching Hawthorn last season.

Yes, they kept winning the close ones and just getting over the line but you could tell the beast had run it's race and it's time was coming to an end.


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Train
Last year
17:26 7 Nov 16

Reply #606660

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

The question has to be asked though, will they cut an import to get a PG/Combo guard or just struggle with what they have?

I can't see them going that long using Hussey and Wroe and Kenny is not back for a few more weeks.


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Isaac
Last year
17:29 7 Nov 16

Reply #606662

re: Damo's injury - what do they do

If it's literally 12 weeks, then they'll probably look at moving on one of the non-Prather imports.


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Ricky
Last year
17:43 7 Nov 16

Reply #606663

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

From Wildcats.com.au

The Perth Wildcats have signed guard Cal Bruton, who previously played with the Brisbane Bullets and Geelong Supercats.

From Wichita State University, the flashy point guard looks to bring his game out West and show the fans the type of exciting streetball game he learned when playing in Queens, New York, "I'm excited to begin a new chapter in my career here and hopefully we can win a few championships"

Bruton may be cleared in time to play against the New Zealand Breakers on Sunday at Perth Arena.


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Train
Last year
17:48 7 Nov 16

Reply #606665

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I hear Cedric Jackson might be looking for a new job :P


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Luuuc
Last year
18:10 7 Nov 16

Reply #606673

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

The fear of this being the case is exactly why I haven't been engaging in any of this Perth=playoff certainties bollocks over the past couple of days. Only takes one moment with one critical player to throw a pretty big spanner into the works.
Honestly I'm relieved it's "just" 12 weeks.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:18 7 Nov 16

Reply #606679

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

12 weeks? That's pretty much the rest of the regular season isn't it. Hurry back soon Jarrod!


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Luuuc
Last year
18:23 7 Nov 16

Reply #606685

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Just as a reference, our 5th-last game of the regular season is 12 weeks from when he got injured. Our last game is at the 14 week mark.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:29 7 Nov 16

Reply #606689

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I don't think we should sack anyone. Kenny held the fort pretty well last year. The big test will be the three weeks until he's back. Wroe did a respectable job on Saturday I thought.


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Mike
Last year
18:33 7 Nov 16

Reply #606690

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Sack Damo's knee


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Luuuc
Last year
19:01 7 Nov 16

Reply #606698

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

From the Wildcats' email:


Scans reveal MCL tear for Martin

Perth Wildcats captain Damian Martin has been ruled out for 10 to 12 weeks, after scans today revealed a grade three MCL tear in his left knee.

The injury was sustained in the third quarter of Saturday night's win over Adelaide at Perth Arena.

Martin won’t undergo surgery, with club medical staff opting to rehabilitate the joint.

Wildcats staff will begin looking at injury replacement options.


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Ricky
Last year
19:03 7 Nov 16

Reply #606702

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

This'll do the trick when he gets back.


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Zodiac
Last year
19:03 7 Nov 16

Reply #606703

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Poor bugger though the past two seasons he's just had no luck with injuries.


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Bballer
Last year
19:25 7 Nov 16

Reply #606711

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Release hussey sign markivich for 12 weeks proven ability to get into sets about if a has been but reliable


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800
Last year
19:28 7 Nov 16

Reply #606712

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

maybe he should settle, no point continually trying to come back even when you're not physically ready. Perth should have gone for a combo guard instead of Jaron Johnson. Travis Trice would fit much better in a Perth Uniform.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:35 7 Nov 16

Reply #606715

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Izzy Tueta is available after this weekend


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paul
Last year
19:46 7 Nov 16

Reply #606724

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

If Tueta is actually available that should be a no-brainer, he has shown he can play.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:48 7 Nov 16

Reply #606726

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

We love kiwi backups


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Dazz
Last year
20:04 7 Nov 16

Reply #606741

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I knew selling all those bobble heads was a bad idea.

Even say assuming they drop McKay and go for an import. Who's floating around?
Who could we get as a local to replace either Martin or McKay? And who could we get as a replacement guard if we went that route?


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Anonymous
Last year
20:04 7 Nov 16

Reply #606742

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Someone send a call out to Drake is!


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Anonymous
Last year
20:06 7 Nov 16

Reply #606745

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

There are no quick fixes. We just need to go with what we got. We played pretty well on Saturday until randle went crazy. There are not many scoring guards like him


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Anonymous
Last year
20:10 7 Nov 16

Reply #606747

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Markovich is the ideal solution. Perth needs a playmaker and he can do that.


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PyroCross
Last year
20:14 7 Nov 16

Reply #606751

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Tueta will be available once Ili's 100%. And absolutely he should get a contract with the Wildcats, he's not a distributor PG but he doesn't look out of place. And he's not a Kiwi.


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Dazz
Last year
20:19 7 Nov 16

Reply #606753

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I agree on Markovich, he was still good when healthy. What's he been doing?


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Train
Last year
20:24 7 Nov 16

Reply #606762

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Markovic would be ideal. Can hit the three and has a wealth of experience.


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Dazz
Last year
20:25 7 Nov 16

Reply #606764

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

There are no quick fixes. We just need to go with what we got
Going with what we've got is definitely NOT an option, but the good news is that Kenny should be back in a few weeks or so. We need to somehow whether that storm, and then move on.

I'd have to doubt the Cats would be toolish enough to cut JJ again, so the only question then is whether McKay is safe. Depends on what import guard would be available and who they could get locally to replace McKay in the lineup.

Realistically I tend to think we just try to get through until Kenny returns, at the same time signing the best local we can find.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:11 7 Nov 16

Reply #606790

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

So Train if Damo's out for 12 weeks how many games is that, then how will he even qualify for finals?


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Train
Last year
21:35 7 Nov 16

Reply #606800

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks


@790 - Do the maths!! If he is out for the full 12 weeks his next game would be Jan 28th. He has already played 5 games and there would be 5 games left when he gets back. IIRC a player needs to play at least 8 games to qualify for the finals (It may be 7).

It'll be close, hopefully he is back a couple of weeks earlier than that.


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koberulz
Last year
21:39 7 Nov 16

Reply #606801

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I agree on Markovich, he was still good when healthy.
He hasn't been healthy in two or three years, though.


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Nonanon
Last year
21:46 7 Nov 16

Reply #606802

Funny re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

The Cats are looking at signing local kid Dazz Dazzercise to a short term player-coach role. Just need to see if he fits under the SALARY CAPS. Gleeson thinks he has remarkable court vision, almost as if he is watching a different game than everyone else.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
22:04 7 Nov 16

Reply #606805

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Lol


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Anonymous
Last year
22:57 7 Nov 16

Reply #606810

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Haha zodiac, favorable calls got the cats over the line????? More like favorable calls got Adelaide into the game...wildcats hating at its best


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Dazz
Last year
23:00 7 Nov 16

Reply #606812

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I WOULD play for pies.

And if you think Jawai was an "immovable object" just wait till you see my low centre of gravity.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:56 7 Nov 16

Reply #606818

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Tueta

Is this the same Tueta that could not get the ball pass half court with Casey Prather on him in Q4 in Perth?

Markovic.

Markovic was already 'not in peak shape' in Townsville. Then in Sydney he had 'personal issues' which precluded him for playing one whole season. Yes Markovic has a sweet stroke, but whats the use when you are at mental / emotional levels on par with Delonte West?

The Wildcats already got rid of one mentally unbalanced player, they don't need another liability.

That said, there are precious few options out there.


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Nix36
Last year
00:38 8 Nov 16

Reply #606820

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Those comments on mental illness are offensive.


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Mike
Last year
02:27 8 Nov 16

Reply #606827

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I'd like to see Devin Booker

Make it happen Nick


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proud
Last year
07:05 8 Nov 16

Reply #606832

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Well at least his jaw will be right when he returns but as for a replacement, I'd like to see more of Hussey, I really like his poise and he looks like he deserves an NBL gig... yeah I know he has played 3 minutes all season but he has impressed me way more than Wroe who I think has been a huge disappointment.

I don't think we need to make any decisions just yet and show a weeks more faith in Wroe/Hussey with Prather and JJ doing some ball handling


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Train
Last year
11:07 8 Nov 16

Reply #606869

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

It's a bit of a concern, that even with only 8 teams in the competition, the NBL has exhausted its local point guard spots. Or is there plenty of PG's out there and clubs are not looking in the right places?


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Dazz
Last year
11:40 8 Nov 16

Reply #606879

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

I suppose we could restart the whole "Australia doesn't produce PGs" debate?
I guess part of it is, that if you're a decent experienced player, without a contract, you try to find something else, like England, if you're eligible. Or an assistant coaching gig.
Or maybe you get on with your life and get a job. It's not like we're the NBA, and anyone would drop everything for a short-term contract.

There are plenty of guys around from the SBL/SEABL type level, but how many of those are ready to step up?


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Freethrows
Last year
11:53 8 Nov 16

Reply #606883

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Matt Burston could be a good local option for a replacement for McKay, if the 'Cats decide to go for another import guard. Remember he was a starter as late as last year. He is a very good defensive-minded centre and would be a good adjunct to Matty Knight in the front court.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:16 8 Nov 16

Reply #606886

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Train, unless the rules have changed it is 25% of total games played as a registered player.


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Train
Last year
12:18 8 Nov 16

Reply #606887

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

@886 - so that's 7 then. Thanks for that :)


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bear
Last year
12:23 8 Nov 16

Reply #606888

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

so surely its finally hoggytime?


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Ricky
Last year
12:31 8 Nov 16

Reply #606889

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Dazz
Last year
13:15 8 Nov 16

Reply #606896

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Matt Burston could be a good local option for a replacement for McKay, if the 'Cats decide to go for another import guard. Remember he was a starter as late as last year. He is a very good defensive-minded centre and would be a good adjunct to Matty Knight in the front court.
Hard to say.
I don't think McKay has performed at the level they would prefer for an import, but at the same time if you replace him with a guard, that's a short-term deal.
I think it comes down to how quickly Kenny recovers. If & when he's fit, the Cats will back him to run the point in Damo's absence, with JJ in the 2.


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Ricky
Last year
13:18 8 Nov 16

Reply #606897

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Simple, just need to "de-activate" McKay and get a combo import guard until Damo gets back then re-activate.


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Mike
Last year
14:05 8 Nov 16

Reply #606902

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

SIMPLES


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Dazz
Last year
15:28 8 Nov 16

Reply #606907

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

LOL

Still reckon they should put in a call to Steve Holt


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Train
Last year
15:42 8 Nov 16

Reply #606910

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

By the sounds of it they are going to make do with what we have and are not looking for an import replacement. Article states Kenny should be back in a week or 2.

"Gleeson ruled out the possibility of signing an import to fill the point guard role.

"Jaron Johnson has done everything we've asked of him, he had a great game on the weekend, right now we’re going to back our own," he said.

“Hopefully Jarrod’s back in the next week or two.”

http://www.wildcats.com.au/perth-wildcats/trevor-gleeson-backs-squad/


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Dazz
Last year
17:37 8 Nov 16

Reply #606916

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Yeah, I think they'll back Kenny when he' fit, and shit-canning JJ (again) or McKay would be rather extreme.
But they still have the option of an injury replacement for Martin. Interesting to see who they come up with. 12 weeks is certainly time to have a hunt around, and for the replacement to settle in and get up to speed.

So who's available? (Apart from Holt under the "Asian rule")?

What would you look for? Someone who can backup the point and also shoot a bit?
Do you try to find somebody who will actually add something, or just a body to fill the space, or are you looking for insurance???

Has Tueta shown much?
Is Burdon worth another chance?

Any Aussies in Europe likely to be let go?


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Train
Last year
17:51 8 Nov 16

Reply #606917

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

The article I linked above mentioned Mason Bragg. Not sure if he is a local replacement or another development player.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:23 8 Nov 16

Reply #606919

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Bragg is a good capable KID. Seabl player who is 22. NBL ready? NO way.


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Watto
Last year
18:23 8 Nov 16

Reply #606920

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Everard Bartlett?


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Anonymous
Last year
19:29 8 Nov 16

Reply #606929

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Michael Dunigan?


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Anonymous
Last year
00:17 9 Nov 16

Reply #606941

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Rashad Tucker?


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jimbo
Last year
10:52 9 Nov 16

Reply #606968

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

what about MIKE HELMS!!!


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Anon
Last year
11:43 9 Nov 16

Reply #606972

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

Will Gleeson get another coaching job if Perth don't make Finals?


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Ricky
Last year
13:52 9 Nov 16

Reply #606976

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

No - because injuries wasn't his fault.

Yes - because he messed up the SG role, which led to Kenny injuring his groin which in turn led to Damo injuring his Jaw and now leg by way of Butterfly Effect.


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Dazz
Last year
15:09 9 Nov 16

Reply #606983

re: Damian Martin to miss 12 weeks

You don't want to be the coach that broke the streak.
It has now become a force that just keeps on rolling, the longer it goes, the worse it gets.
As the saying goes, its a bit like a balloon (or virginity) once its gone it aint coming back. You can't just say "hang in there for another 30 years and we'll build it back."

Still hoping the Cats can pull a rabbit.


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