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Dazz
Last year

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Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

On the one hand, its great that the Kings have turned their fortunes around. Last year they served up some of the worst slop, so their return to quality is welcomed. D-Lisch will as always get a friendly welcome.

Unfortunately, hopes of an epic "top of the table" clash have been been torpedoed by the absence of Martin & Kenny. That's actually really unfortunate, as despite their differing styles these two teams had the potential to deliver some awesome games.
Hard to get excited about what our backcourt (or lack thereof) is going to produce.

In some ways, this will still be a bit of a test for the Kings, its their longest road-trip and they need to deliver, but surely their quality and depth will win out.

Not sure I like these double-banger fixtures. I have a feeling the split against Sydney will be irretrievable after this weekend. (Can only hope that Sydney can still draw a massive crowd.)

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Anonymous
Last year
15:13 15 Nov 16

Reply #608083

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kenny is likely to suit up with limited minutes this Thursday!


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Ricky
Last year
15:19 15 Nov 16

Reply #608086

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Wouldn't bother unless he's 100% recovered and they are just easing him back in..


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Anonymous
Last year
15:42 15 Nov 16

Reply #608090

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

On the one hand, all Wildcats losses are delicious.

On the other hand, all Wildcats losses are followed by approx 76 cluesless, repetitive and/or annoying by the same one-eyed bad sport.

But delicious still trumps annoying, so smash 'em, Kings!


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Anonymous
Last year
15:45 15 Nov 16

Reply #608091

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"On the other hand, all Wildcats losses are followed by approx 76 cluesless, repetitive and/or annoying by the same one-eyed bad sport."

Perhaps if you are going to have a dig at someone, learn to spell and construct your sentences that they make sense.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:49 15 Nov 16

Reply #608092

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Fair call.

Go Kings!


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Anonymous
Last year
15:51 15 Nov 16

Reply #608093

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings.


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JasonC
Last year
15:52 15 Nov 16

Reply #608095

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"and construct your sentences that they make sense."

*and construct your sentences IN A MANNER that makes sense.

JasonC


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Anonymous
Last year
16:12 15 Nov 16

Reply #608097

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Hahaha. Both posters correct either way.


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Train
Last year
16:14 15 Nov 16

Reply #608098

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

This game hasn't even started yet and the trolls are out in force.


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Nonanon
Last year
16:16 15 Nov 16

Reply #608099

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"JasonC"

Jason C

;-)


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Luuuc
Last year
16:41 15 Nov 16

Reply #608102

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings @ $1.72 sound good to me.

Heartening that Kenny is a chance to return, even if it's only limited minutes.


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Dazz
Last year
17:18 15 Nov 16

Reply #608106

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Not sure I like the sound of "limited minutes"?
If he's recovered, and they just don't want him to overexert, then that's fantastic. Just hope he has actually recovered.

It will be good when he's back, we should at least look respectable.


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Bill on the ball
Last year
17:58 15 Nov 16

Reply #608111

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Hard to think the Cats will lose at home again.

Defence still needs working on. But pretty sure Sydney will feel the heat.....no easy game against the Cats at their home ground.


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SteveK2
Last year
17:58 15 Nov 16

Reply #608112

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Can only hope that Sydney can still draw a massive crowd"

This 'massive' crowd probably won't materialise until Sydney gets into the Grand Finals or the season after they win a title. Even then I'm skeptical. Currently, the Kings receive very little news coverage on FTA channels and very brief mentions on radios. NRL, AFL and A-league dominate the sporting scenes in Sydney.

There was a time during the D-Train era or when they won 3 in a row that the Kings could have cemented their spot amongst the major sports, but they blew that chance and disappeared for two years even.

Still, Sydneysiders love winners and can be massive band-wagoners. I vaguely recall the Kings vs. Razorbacks Grand Final in 2004 where it was sold-out and had over-capacity crowd standing at the back aisles. I think there were at least 12,000 in there and on the final few minutes when the Kings made their run, the place was so loud you could tell the Razorbacks were intimidated and choked.


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LV
Last year
18:12 15 Nov 16

Reply #608115

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Should be close, if recent form is a guide- every Wildcats game is.

Kings to win, by 5-7 points, on the back of their pressure D forcing a few extra TO's and getting out in transition.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:53 15 Nov 16

Reply #608124

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Luuuc thinks whoever is playing the cats is always good value


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Dazz
Last year
19:54 15 Nov 16

Reply #608125

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Even without Damo (or Kenny) Perth have managed to grind other teams down over the course of the game, but I feel Sydney will just have too many options for them.
I could be wrong, but I reckon this game goes one of two ways: Sydney should get out to an early lead, then either Perth does enough to hang in, claw back, Sydney gets rattled, and we have another nailbiter. Or Sydney will just be too good and pull away. Could become a blowout.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:09 15 Nov 16

Reply #608127

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Luuuc thinks whoever is playing the cats is always good value"

That's not actually far from the truth. I do feel like we are frequently shorter priced than we deserve to be, and over the long term I am well ahead on going with my gut on that one.

Kings at $1.72 is obviously not the value that NZ at $2.67 was last round.


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Luuuc
Last year
20:10 15 Nov 16

Reply #608128

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

NBL Nation podcast for this week:
https://soundcloud.com/user-540849461/round-7


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Anonymous
Last year
20:14 15 Nov 16

Reply #608130

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I think the Kings will probably win, but I'd say we still have a chance. Will need some players to have big games and the home crowd will be important, curious to see the turnout being a Thursday night. Would be huge a huge win for the cats if they get up, but I expect Sydney will probably win. Looking forward to a good game.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
20:39 15 Nov 16

Reply #608132

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kenny is rubbish.
Surely the wildcats have signed a decent replacement for Damo.?!

Kings by 8 (irrespective of Kenny suiting up - lol)


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Kyrie2Nation
Last year
20:46 15 Nov 16

Reply #608138

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Lisch will torch the Cats this week. He's back in form and with no Damo annoying him, I fear for Perth in both games this week.


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Dazz
Last year
21:37 15 Nov 16

Reply #608148

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Surely the wildcats have signed a decent replacement for Damo.?!
You'd think so, but nothing announced yet.
If Kenny is up and about, and can play 30+ minutes, then I'd back us at home. Otherwise no chance.


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Train
Last year
21:41 15 Nov 16

Reply #608149

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

If Perth lose both games to Sydney this week I think we may just see some roster changes. If they play well and get the split the roster should stay the same. 11 more weeks wthout Damo is too long to go if the rest of the team can't get the job done.


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FreeThrows
Last year
22:30 15 Nov 16

Reply #608160

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I hate to back them, and maybe this will be the kiss of death: Violet Crumbles to win both games this weekend, barring injury to Lisch.


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Dazz
Last year
23:34 15 Nov 16

Reply #608174

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I suspect Perth are pinning a lot on the return of Kenny. If he makes it back soon, and the Cats look decent with him, they'll sign some local spud as a Damo replacement and run with that.
But yeah, if they're still struggling, expect another "de-activation."


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Anonymous
Last year
23:44 15 Nov 16

Reply #608176

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

while we probably need another 'deactivation', i just can't see them doing it with how much of a mess our whole import situation has been so far. If it wasn't for all the drama that's already happened they probably would have done it ASAP when martin got injured.

On the other hand though, we're already turning into a bit of a laughing stock over it, what else would be have to lose by adding to the drama.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:17 16 Nov 16

Reply #608177

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Considering we haven't gotten blown away, yet, we may persist until Kenny returns.

Sydney should win both. Be interesting to see if another Kings import loses their mind...

Be nice if we don't snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and the dodo's make a simple goaltending call so the former doesn't eventuate.


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Wookiee (double E)
Last year
08:48 16 Nov 16

Reply #608188

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I think it's still going to be pretty tough for the Kings to get the win in Perth...

They're still not 100% clicking as a team since Blake joined, and have relied on individual brilliance from some players to get wins the last few rounds... Sure, when those players are Lisch and Newley, it's something that is easy to rely on, but certain Wildcats players seem to step up against us (Wagstaff hitting a thousand 3s against us last season still stings) and Powell will really have to keep his head in check with the attention that he is so obviously going to get from most of the Wildcats players (especially Wagstaff) and the more vocal courtside fans...

Lisch and Cadee will hopefully have their way with whatever backcourt the Wildcats can scrounge together, but otherwise the Kings will have their work cut out for them... Prather will be tough and same with Knight... Hopefully we can avoid too much home cooking and not let the foul count be a factor, as Maric and Whittington especially will be keys to a victory...


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AngusH
Last year
09:11 16 Nov 16

Reply #608194

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I don't care if Perth have 10 guys out injured and are fielding a SEABL side, I'm never particularly confident about any team's chances against the Wildcats @ home.

We *should* beat them, but I think it will be close.


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Dazz
Last year
16:59 16 Nov 16

Reply #608273

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yes games in Perth are always tough. It's the longest flight for most teams, biggest time difference, big crowd, etc. If we had Damo back, I'd back the Cats notwithstanding Sydney's quality and depth. If we have Kenny for a full game, it could be close.

A lot depends on JJ and McKay. If they cut lose the Cats could actually post a respectable score.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:04 16 Nov 16

Reply #608274

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

freudian slip there about those 2 dud imports cutting "lose"


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Ricky
Last year
17:11 16 Nov 16

Reply #608275

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

As long as McKay is on the floor that is.


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jumpshot
Last year
17:30 16 Nov 16

Reply #608280

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Cats by 10.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:00 16 Nov 16

Reply #608285

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings fans already blaming the refs...


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Anonymous
Last year
18:05 16 Nov 16

Reply #608287

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings favs in both games on the betting. Yes even short priced favs on game2. Crazy


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Luuuc
Last year
13:36 17 Nov 16

Reply #608353

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Wildcats $1.80, Kings $2.00 for tonight's game atm, so not much in it.

Worst value bet appears to be the $10.00 being offered for Corban Wroe to score the first basket of the game.


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Zodiac
Last year
15:09 17 Nov 16

Reply #608363

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

50% off Bronze & Silver tickets for tonight's game via Student Edge.

https://www.ozbargain.com.au/node/276405




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Anonymous
Last year
16:05 17 Nov 16

Reply #608374

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

ROFLcopter is a flop!


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Old Mate
Last year
16:09 17 Nov 16

Reply #608375

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I despise both teams

Like watching Carlton and Collingwood ....

or two ex girlfriends fighting you don't care who wins as long as they beat each other up


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Andy
Last year
16:55 17 Nov 16

Reply #608378

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings by 15+


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Anonymous
Last year
17:13 17 Nov 16

Reply #608379

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"or two ex girlfriends fighting you don't care who wins as long as they beat each other up"

Your left hand fought your right hand?


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Kyrie2Nation
Last year
17:32 17 Nov 16

Reply #608380

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

McKay's gametime is a bit of a worry. Only 14 minutes last week which was his lowest of the season. Gleeson barely played him in the second half and didn't even put him on in the 4th. I was surprised since NZ have some really good bigs and Knight did most of the work.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:56 17 Nov 16

Reply #608381

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Pinning your hopes on Kenny, is like pinning your hopes on Hilary.


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Air Delay
Last year
18:27 17 Nov 16

Reply #608385

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Wise words from the double e-d Wookie!

Cats always make the game a fight & if they can run the Kings off the 3 point line, get inside Powell's head & get the bigs in foul trouble (which has happened a few times this season) then the Cats are a chance!

But on paper..... the Kings by a thoooooouuuuusand, yet they're under the cap? ; )


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cats 4 life
Last year
18:33 17 Nov 16

Reply #608386

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

need to limit newly and lisch, every team play there best when they play here. Perth get the split, think we would be happy.

would love to see a fully fit Perth,Sydney and United! go for that top spot.


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Luuuc
Last year
18:55 17 Nov 16

Reply #608390

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I feel like the Kings backcourt will kill ours, and Newley is a worthy opponent for Prather so if we have an advantage at that spot it's marginal, therefore our chances once again hang largely on what Knight can produce.
This would be a good time for Jesse to rediscover his perimeter shooting form.


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Hendo8888
Last year
19:02 17 Nov 16

Reply #608391

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

You'd assume the guard line of Lisch, Cadee, Blake and Newley would dominate Johnson, Kernich-Drew and... umm... whoever else Perth has.
Prather, McKay, Knight and Johnson would have to come up huge for Perth to win, you'd think.


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leungtl
Last year
19:32 17 Nov 16

Reply #608397

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Perhaps I am too cynical, but I would be surprised if Perth kept the margin within double digits...


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Ricky
Last year
19:37 17 Nov 16

Reply #608398

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Need Waggy to knock a few 3's


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AngusH
Last year
20:03 17 Nov 16

Reply #608404

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Brisbane and Cairns beat us by out-working us, which is Perth's biggest strength, too. I can see Matty Knight having a huge game today.


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Anonymous
Last year
20:47 17 Nov 16

Reply #608406

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

NO one has ever said the Kings are under the cap.


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Air Delay
Last year
21:06 17 Nov 16

Reply #608408

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Except Gaze.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:07 17 Nov 16

Reply #608410

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Can you read?


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Mike
Last year
21:10 17 Nov 16

Reply #608411

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Stream not loading for anyone else?


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Zodiac
Last year
21:11 17 Nov 16

Reply #608412

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

No stream for me either, wasn't this game meant to have started 10 minutes ago?


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JR
Last year
21:12 17 Nov 16

Reply #608413

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yea no stream just some stupid ad


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Mike
Last year
21:12 17 Nov 16

Reply #608414

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

11-5 cats


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LV
Last year
21:12 17 Nov 16

Reply #608415

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Ooyala"

Yay...


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Tempo
Last year
21:13 17 Nov 16

Reply #608416

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Every single bounce of the ball going the LUCKY Wildcats way so far...and i mean every bounce/deflection


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Deez
Last year
21:14 17 Nov 16

Reply #608417

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Is anyone else NBL TV not working?


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Tempo
Last year
21:14 17 Nov 16

Reply #608418

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Every single time a shot goes up, it just seems like a real struggle in the NBL to get a rebound.

Seems like players are so poorly positioned fundamentally in this league


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Mike
Last year
21:15 17 Nov 16

Reply #608419

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

No not Ooh La La, more like WTF?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:15 17 Nov 16

Reply #608420

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Still not working gives me the shits


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Mike
Last year
21:16 17 Nov 16

Reply #608421

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Lol Kings, Cats 11+ looking good :)


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Ricky
Last year
21:16 17 Nov 16

Reply #608422

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Bloody hell NBL.tv.. looking like a good start too by the Cats..


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Anonymous
Last year
21:17 17 Nov 16

Reply #608423

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

TFG it's only $5 / month.


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Mike
Last year
21:17 17 Nov 16

Reply #608424

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Goddamit missing the demolition :@


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Tempo
Last year
21:17 17 Nov 16

Reply #608425

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Refs have good cash on the Wildcats..

Lets see if they can get them home to collect there bets


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Anonymous
Last year
21:18 17 Nov 16

Reply #608426

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Perth 19 / 5


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Zodiac
Last year
21:18 17 Nov 16

Reply #608427

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Nearly 20 minutes in and bloody stream still hasn't started yet.


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JR
Last year
21:18 17 Nov 16

Reply #608428

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Glad I'm with Telstra and didn't pay for this Crap.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:19 17 Nov 16

Reply #608429

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Its from WA. Wait Awhile.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:20 17 Nov 16

Reply #608430

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

How's that 7 day shopping going over there. Oh wait.


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Mike
Last year
21:20 17 Nov 16

Reply #608431

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

lol


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Mike
Last year
21:22 17 Nov 16

Reply #608432

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

What about that alternate link the NBL posts when NBL.tv isn't working, anyone got that URL?


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LV
Last year
21:23 17 Nov 16

Reply #608433

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Annoyed to be missing this. Two teams I've been following particularly closely.... Argh.


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Mike
Last year
21:24 17 Nov 16

Reply #608434

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

We back


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Anonymous
Last year
21:26 17 Nov 16

Reply #608435

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Finally.


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Mike
Last year
21:26 17 Nov 16

Reply #608436

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

DKD hit it too :(


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Anonymous
Last year
21:29 17 Nov 16

Reply #608437

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings are lucky they are not a lot more behind. Perth just running riot on defence


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Air Delay
Last year
21:31 17 Nov 16

Reply #608438

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Blake is the worst guard defender in the league... can not stop a drive or pull through.


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Mike
Last year
21:33 17 Nov 16

Reply #608439

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

DVD da bessss


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Mike
Last year
21:33 17 Nov 16

Reply #608440

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

*DKD


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Anonymous
Last year
21:34 17 Nov 16

Reply #608441

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Prather guarding Lisch. Hahaha


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Air Delay
Last year
21:36 17 Nov 16

Reply #608442

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings need something....give Hill or Moller a go!!!!!


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Mike
Last year
21:37 17 Nov 16

Reply #608443

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

lel Kangz


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Anonymous
Last year
21:37 17 Nov 16

Reply #608444

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Lisch plucks his eyebrows


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Mike
Last year
21:38 17 Nov 16

Reply #608445

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

'Lisch plucks his eyebrows'

It's how they do it in the NBA where Lisch is ready for


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Tempo
Last year
21:39 17 Nov 16

Reply #608446

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings are the most overrated team the NBL has ever seen...I told you all...there NBA imports are nothing but rejects who couldnt get jobs anywhere else...


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Anonymous
Last year
21:39 17 Nov 16

Reply #608447

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Prather is tough


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Anonymous
Last year
21:41 17 Nov 16

Reply #608448

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

kings getting every call lool


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Mike
Last year
21:42 17 Nov 16

Reply #608449

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kinny bro wtf


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Air Delay
Last year
21:42 17 Nov 16

Reply #608450

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Lisch is sooooooooooooo good!
The rest of the Kings have gotta play some D. Seriously.


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Mike
Last year
21:42 17 Nov 16

Reply #608451

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

lol @ Kings interior 'defense'


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Mike
Last year
21:46 17 Nov 16

Reply #608452

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Vlahov :(


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Mike
Last year
21:48 17 Nov 16

Reply #608453

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

This Bragg guy can play

WHere's he been?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:50 17 Nov 16

Reply #608454

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Can you even spell Tempo, let alone know anything about the game?


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Air Delay
Last year
21:53 17 Nov 16

Reply #608455

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Loving Bragg!
Just made Jason his Caddie : )


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Anonymous
Last year
21:53 17 Nov 16

Reply #608456

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

How can Perth have so many players sitting on the bench? Totally illegal.


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AngusH
Last year
21:54 17 Nov 16

Reply #608457

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings lucky we're not down 30 points.

Bragg could be this year's Jarrad Weeks?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:54 17 Nov 16

Reply #608458

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

braggs is a keeper


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Tempo
Last year
21:57 17 Nov 16

Reply #608460

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

LOL, they asked Blake why he chose Sydney...the first thing he said was "because the weather is good"

Thats the only reason he is here and no other team put an offer for him.


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Anonymous
Last year
21:57 17 Nov 16

Reply #608461

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Is Bragg better than wroe?


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AngusH
Last year
21:57 17 Nov 16

Reply #608462

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

hoops.com.au feature request - "Mute Tempo" icon.


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AngusH
Last year
21:59 17 Nov 16

Reply #608463

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Robbins is decent on the mic, but needs to break away from the "we" stuff when talking about the Wildcats.


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Mike
Last year
22:00 17 Nov 16

Reply #608464

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yes Bragg looks a lot better than Wroe. Looks more agressive than Kenney as well.


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Tempo
Last year
22:00 17 Nov 16

Reply #608465

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Powell on the court for 11 minutes and NOT ONE rebound.

LOL, no wonder no team wanted him.

Every NBA player that lands here is here for a reason..and not a good reason for the team he is playing in.


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AngusH
Last year
22:01 17 Nov 16

Reply #608466

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Best thing about Bragg as far as young guys go is that he knows when to pull back and when to attack. When he's racing it up court a lot of guys with his foot speed will drive into a packed key as soon as they beat the guard pressing him up court, but so far Bragg seems to pick his spots well.


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AngusH
Last year
22:03 17 Nov 16

Reply #608467

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tempo again with his groundbreaking insight as to why guys play in the NBL rather the NBA.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:04 17 Nov 16

Reply #608468

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"How can Perth have so many players sitting on the bench? Totally illegal."

The same as any other home team? So much cheating... those bastards


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twenty four
Last year
22:04 17 Nov 16

Reply #608469

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tempo, kind of like how you're here for a reason... and not a good reason for every other poster?


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Anonymous
Last year
22:05 17 Nov 16

Reply #608470

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings 8 boards at half time. LOL. Wonder how they'll blame our refs for that one.


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Mike
Last year
22:05 17 Nov 16

Reply #608471

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

That was gold Jesse, gold!


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SteveK2
Last year
22:08 17 Nov 16

Reply #608472

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So far its Perth playing to win and Sydney playing not to lose. Lets see if we end up with two teams playing to win.

Amazing display of heart by the Wildcats. Championship stuff.


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Mike
Last year
22:14 17 Nov 16

Reply #608474

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

yay Imports


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Anonymous
Last year
22:15 17 Nov 16

Reply #608475

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yeah those cheating bastards don't know the rules it seems. FIBA says "There must be 14 seats available in the team bench area for the team bench personnel which consists of the coaches, the assistant coaches, the substitutes, the excluded players and the team followers. Any other persons shall be at least 2 m behind the team bench."


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Another Anon
Last year
22:20 17 Nov 16

Reply #608476

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Mason Bragg an absolute find. Prather on MVP form.


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AngusH
Last year
22:24 17 Nov 16

Reply #608477

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Seriously Tommy, it's not you setting the screen at 10 seconds there, it's Powell setting it at 5.


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AngusH
Last year
22:25 17 Nov 16

Reply #608478

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Much better Q from the Kings, but it's probably too little, too late. Can't give the Wildcats such an advantage on their own court.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:25 17 Nov 16

Reply #608479

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Can we not mic up Gleeson please.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:30 17 Nov 16

Reply #608480

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Perth is title town and the road to the crown still goes through there. Had they now given the game away against the hapless Breakers they would be two games clear on top


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Air Delay
Last year
22:32 17 Nov 16

Reply #608481

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Did Blake just get beat on the drive again? By a forward? You need defenders Gazey to complement Lisch & Newley.


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Mike
Last year
22:36 17 Nov 16

Reply #608482

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Dammit Newley killing my Cats 11+


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AngusH
Last year
22:37 17 Nov 16

Reply #608483

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So... let's just keep feeding Newley eh.


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Air Delay
Last year
22:44 17 Nov 16

Reply #608484

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Is Powell even playing tonight?
Or just waiting to post stuff on instagram?


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Mike
Last year
22:44 17 Nov 16

Reply #608485

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kenney with dat clutch gene


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Anonymous
Last year
22:45 17 Nov 16

Reply #608486

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Cats fans erect tonight!


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AngusH
Last year
22:46 17 Nov 16

Reply #608487

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Just too many missed wide open 3s for the Kings.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:46 17 Nov 16

Reply #608488

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings then daylol


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Tempo
Last year
22:47 17 Nov 16

Reply #608489

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Air Delay...i keep telling everyone...do u think these "EX NBA" players are here to win or are here for a holiday?


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Mike
Last year
22:48 17 Nov 16

Reply #608490

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

COme on 11+!!


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AngusH
Last year
22:48 17 Nov 16

Reply #608491

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

And Tempo, we keep telling you - you're a moron.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:48 17 Nov 16

Reply #608492

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Inb4 all the non cats fans petty excuses for sydney losing.

- the refs fault
- arrogant bully fans
- too many chairs...

Etc etc.

Cats just played better all night even with injuries, everyone mostly did their job and played their role.


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Tempo
Last year
22:50 17 Nov 16

Reply #608493

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

If i hear 1 more time how stacked this Kings team is...i will scream..

THEY ARE NOT...they have 2 FORMER NBA players...one is 36 years old and is here because of the "weather"...the other was nothing but a fringe bench player a number of years ago who also bounced from league to league.

Maric is arguably the worst centre i have ever seen...The guy is a lumber jack and has feet for hands.

The only GOOD players are Lisch and Newley...EVERYONE else is a hack. Cadee thinks he is Steph Curry..

This team is the most overrated i have ever seen in world sport.


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Air Delay
Last year
22:50 17 Nov 16

Reply #608494

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I'm starting to believe Tempo...
Has Cadee had a doughnut tonight too?

Can't teach heart & the Cats have had way more than the Kings tonight.


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Tempo
Last year
22:52 17 Nov 16

Reply #608495

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

LOL @ Steve Blake...

That is exactly why woeful teams such as the 76ers didnt want anything to do with in your twilight years..

It is showing....just retire and stop embarrassing yourself. You have no heart, no motivation and are here just for a Xmas holiday


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Luuuc
Last year
22:52 17 Nov 16

Reply #608496

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

13. Well played Mikey


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AngusH
Last year
22:53 17 Nov 16

Reply #608497

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

The arguable worst center Tempo has ever seen has achieved more in his professional basketball career than Forum Troll Tempo ever will achieve in his life.


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Tempo
Last year
22:56 17 Nov 16

Reply #608498

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

LOL...it shows you how bankrupt we are for talent in the NBL when people get excited when a 36 year old "NBA" player who cant even get a gig at the woeful 76ers comes to Australia


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LV
Last year
22:56 17 Nov 16

Reply #608499

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Sydney lived by the 3 and then died by it, they stalled when the threes stopped dropping with a few minutes to go.

Newley was worth the price of admission. Now that the Cats have to go on the road, let's see if they can keep this up. I do like the double header fixturing with teams matching up twice in a round, makes for interesting viewing.


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Anonymous
Last year
22:57 17 Nov 16

Reply #608500

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Expect the reverse result on Saturday


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Mike
Last year
22:57 17 Nov 16

Reply #608501

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Cheers. And I just scored a cracker with Pogba in FIFA :P


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Anonymous
Last year
22:58 17 Nov 16

Reply #608502

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I expect the Kings to win on Saturday but if Damo returns and the kings get big Kaz man back in a 3 game series it should be an epic series


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LV
Last year
23:06 17 Nov 16

Reply #608504

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Points in the paint 48-16.

Ouch.

Rebounds 37-28(and that includes the stretch of 30 seconds of play at one stage where the Kings got 3 or 4 second chances in a row).


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Bol Bol
Last year
23:07 17 Nov 16

Reply #608505

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Cats with so much heart tonight.

They need to find a way to keep Bragg on their roster when damo is back. His speed and energy are real assets.

DKD is an absolute gun! Pure shooter, good handles. Someone needs to tell Gleeson he deserves more minutes.


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cats 4 life
Last year
23:13 17 Nov 16

Reply #608506

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

just saw Powell jump in a car with some chick


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Anonymous
Last year
23:13 17 Nov 16

Reply #608507

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kings are lucky they did not lose by 25 or more tonight. Brad was the only thing keeping this game close. What an individual effort.


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cats 4 life
Last year
23:15 17 Nov 16

Reply #608508

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

or is just me? don't want to assume anything different! I'm not taking the piss.


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Train
Last year
23:15 17 Nov 16

Reply #608509

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Sydney then daylight then LV,s left ear .... even more daylight ... then LV,s right ear.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:16 17 Nov 16

Reply #608510

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Good Powell. He couldn't score on the court so atleast why not score off it.


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SteveK2
Last year
23:19 17 Nov 16

Reply #608511

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

No need to get hysterical Tempo, it was a pretty entertaining game that could've gone either way after Newley's last made 3pt.

Wildcats gave everything they got and Gleeson coaching masterful in this game. Its a very well deserved win.

The Kings in their current state are definitely not daylights ahead. There were flashes of that potential but LV is right, there's still Khazzouh to return, Gaze to get better and some players to hit their form with the right mindset. Its a bit unfair to tease LV about the daylight comment everytime the Kings lose and it gets old hearing the cries of stacked, over-the-cap team everytime they win.


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Anonymous
Last year
23:24 17 Nov 16

Reply #608513

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Perth still has Damo to get back into the team.Both teams have room for improvement.These two teams are the teams to beat so I think we saw the GF priview.


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SteveK2
Last year
23:29 17 Nov 16

Reply #608515

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yeah I hope we get to see these two teams with their full roster with every player on both team bringing their 'A' game. Would be an incredible game to watch and please if it does happen make it double OT game :).


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Luuuc
Last year
23:56 17 Nov 16

Reply #608520

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Fun night.

Much more fun than I expected :-)


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Dazz
Last year
23:59 17 Nov 16

Reply #608522

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Wow!
What a game.
I knew have Kenny back would help settle things, but I never expected that.

I could be wrong, but it seems if the Kings get rattled early, they struggle to regroup.

Newley is a legend, single-handedly kept them in the game.
But champion teams know how to close out a game. Just look at the Breakers.

Bragg looked impressive. He's certainly very quick and energetic, and made some nice moves tonight. Wroe might have to fight for his spot.
NB: Bragg is a DP, and we can always suit up at least one DP every game.

McKay was down with some kind of illness, but still came up with some big plays. And of course JJ had a good game.

Prather already has the Cats MVP award in the bag, and has set his sights on the league.

"Game 2" just got really interesting. I hope its a sellout for the Kings. Perth are extremely tough at home, not so on the road, so Kings should go in favourites, but still this result should liven up expectations.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:01 18 Nov 16

Reply #608523

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tempo: "If i hear 1 more time how stacked this Kings team is...i will scream.."



Tempo, if i hear you say 1 more time about these ex-NBA players not being good enough for the NBA...i will scream...

You keep stating the F***ing obvious 20 times in every thread when they play. Everybody knows they aren't good enough otherwise they would be in the NBA. I have no idea who you keep trying to 'convince' with this argument week in week out, everybody knows they aren't good enough, you just sound like a moron.


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Nix77
Last year
00:09 18 Nov 16

Reply #608524

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tempo is operating at a very slow tempo.

Very, very, very slow.

(Let me translate for you, tempo: you are dumb)


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Anonymous
Last year
00:10 18 Nov 16

Reply #608525

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Anyone that said "if you're relying on Kenny, you're going to have a bad time" has just been shown to have zero knowledge about how basketball works.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:13 18 Nov 16

Reply #608527

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tempo is the new Cussy. Retarded.


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Train
Last year
00:13 18 Nov 16

Reply #608528

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Really enjoyed this game and a great way to celebrate my birthday. Perth's offence was pretty damn good in the first half. Casey Prather is up there with the best player in the NBL this year, he makes everything looks so easy. How spoilt we are to have players like Newley, Prather, Randle and Lisch in the NBL this year.

Some good signs for Perth with DKD, Bragg and Brandt putting in solid games and stoked to see Kenny back.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:17 18 Nov 16

Reply #608529

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Reality, then daylight....then LV's opinion.


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Train
Last year
00:21 18 Nov 16

Reply #608530

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

^^hahahahaha


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
00:26 18 Nov 16

Reply #608531

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I love the nets at Perth Arena


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
00:26 18 Nov 16

Reply #608532

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Although they could be a little shorter to reduce flippage


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Dazz
Last year
00:28 18 Nov 16

Reply #608533

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Anyone that said "if you're relying on Kenny, you're going to have a bad time" has just been shown to have zero knowledge about how basketball works.
Kenny is seriously underrated. I'm still amazed he didn't get an NBL gig before last season. Ok so he's not a gun, but he's competent, experienced, and good under pressure.
He doesn't shoot a lot, but when he does its usually good.


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Train
Last year
00:30 18 Nov 16

Reply #608534

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Kenny is seriously underrated, his influence on the game can't be measured by stats. Perth look like a different team when he was on the floor.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:36 18 Nov 16

Reply #608536

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

What's that noise? Oh a bunch of violet crumbles being crunched by some cats.

LOL at all the Wildcats haters. The louder you hate the better we play!

I'll take Prather's creative hardworking 28 over Newley's jack 'em up and hope and then whine when it doesn't go my way 34 any day of the week.


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Anonymous
Last year
00:51 18 Nov 16

Reply #608537

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Just listened to the post game press conference. McKay was sick all week throwing up etc. Might explain his coming off the bench but I did like the look of Brandt at the start. McKay was awesome down the stretch though and was spent at the end. Great effort


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Anonymous
Last year
00:56 18 Nov 16

Reply #608538

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Should Bragg take wroes spot. Once he gets more experience he'll be handy.


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Luuuc
Last year
01:04 18 Nov 16

Reply #608541

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Gutsy team win, but as impressive as the guys were on the court I fully expect the NBL to disqualify us tomorrow once they catch wind of chairgate. It's one thing to have the advantage of a passionate home crowd, but having an unfair numerical advantage in bench area chairs is crossing the line for sure, and not a win I feel morally comfortable with accepting.

Here's the press conference with Gleeson & Prather:
https://audioboom.com/posts/5295538-perth-wildcats-93-def-sydney-kings-80
Trevor of course being a flog and acting as if the win was honest and above board.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
01:19 18 Nov 16

Reply #608542

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Gleeson is a flog


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Dazz
Last year
01:21 18 Nov 16

Reply #608543

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Gleeson may be a flog, but he's getting the job done.


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Luuuc
Last year
01:28 18 Nov 16

Reply #608545

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

To his credit he's managing to keep his flogginess levels just shy of tech foul territory during games.


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leungtl
Last year
02:31 18 Nov 16

Reply #608547

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Should Bragg take wroes spot. Once he gets more experience he'll be handy."

Yes, I don't think this is even a question after tonight...


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Vic Wildcat
Last year
07:36 18 Nov 16

Reply #608550

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Great win considering the injury issues with our back court. Didn't think we could win this one, and i'm tipping Sat night will be a bit tougher.

What baffles me though is we see a lot of the carry on from the coaches, yep Gleeson is one of the worst, it could be fixed pretty easy by the refs, some of the stuff the coaches do and say would not fly in any other league around the world, the refs need to get tougher on all the coaches and start with the tech fouls, that will shut them up pretty quickly.

A ref had the perfect chance with Gleeson last night when he thought Bragg was fouled on the drive, the carry on was embarrassing and should have teched straight away, would stop all the chat from the coaches straight away.


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paul
Last year
08:02 18 Nov 16

Reply #608551

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I was told last year the league liked seeing players and coaches carrying on after calls because they thought the emotive stuff made good TV. I don't know if that's true but if it is I don't really agree, we should be focusing on the play, not the refs.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:29 18 Nov 16

Reply #608557

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Gleeson is not a flog! Get over it folks hes proven to be a more than capable coach over the years.


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Anonymous
Last year
09:33 18 Nov 16

Reply #608558

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

This is the problem with the Kings. They think they are much better than what they and fans in general think they are. When you have such a mind set, your attitude adjusts. Perth simply showed more desire and hustle and really that was the difference.

The Kings dont have the talent they think they have where they can just turn up with a half a$$ attitude and win.

Also, what is worse for the Kings, because they have been so hyped and everyone is talking them up, ie "stacked roster", every team that plays them prepares and comes on the court with the attitude that it is a game 7 of the NBA finals. Everyone is gunning for them.

If they turn up with a tremendous attitude, this team will be unbeatable because they do have the most talent in the NBL overall, but it is not at such a level where they think they can just turn up and win with a poor attitude, lack of desire, hunger etc.

You see some NBA teams get beaten in the pre season by Euro teams. While Euro teams are much much better than NBL teams, the concept is the same. These NBA teams are in pre season mode, in another country in holiday mode, having a good time site seeing, flash resteraunts etc. European teams are at such a level where that if an NBA team merely turns up in holiday mode, they will get beaten. The same applies to the Kings to the NBL.


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Tom
Last year
09:44 18 Nov 16

Reply #608561

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Did not see whole game. Kings can't go 1/9 from Blake and Cadee and hope to win. Cadee is very erratic in shot selection. He can get really hot but he is not consistent.
Really worried about Andrew Gaze's body language when things are not going well. Looks resigned.... angry..... blame look to me.
Definitely not the same Gaze at start of season, when they were looking the goods.


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LV
Last year
10:12 18 Nov 16

Reply #608562

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Lol @ People who failed year 5 comprehension, flunked year 7 English and then get on internet forums and have a crack at people who are more intelligent than they are.

Kings should be back on top of the ladder by the end of this round.

Not daylight yet, but they're still the best team out there until somebody proves otherwise- and no, last night was not proving otherwise.


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LV
Last year
10:15 18 Nov 16

Reply #608563

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I'll say this though- Prather is probably MVP of this comp so far. At worst, second behind Randle.

If he keeps this up all year, they will finish top 4 and will prove a tough match up in the semis.


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Nonanon
Last year
10:20 18 Nov 16

Reply #608565

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"but they're still the best team out there until somebody proves otherwise- and no, last night was not proving otherwise."

Why wasn't it? What factors will you cherry-pick in order to claim the second-placed Kings are clearly the best team?

A DP with 2 games experience severely outplayed Cadee and a 12 year NBA veteran, in a third of the time on the court. Cracks are appearing in the Kings team - maybe anointing them the greatest time of all time after just six games was a bit premature.


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Anonymous
Last year
10:30 18 Nov 16

Reply #608567

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Tom...good teams still win or at least go very close when there shots arent going down.

Defense and rebounding is ultimately 90% effort, desire and will.

Kings just think there sh#t doesnt stink and they merely have to turn up to win. The reality is they arent that talented where they can do that.


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Luuuc
Last year
10:46 18 Nov 16

Reply #608568

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Kings just think ..."

No


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Anonymous
Last year
10:49 18 Nov 16

Reply #608570

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Luuke, you dont think the Kings players believe in their own hype?

By half time Powell had been on the court for 11 minutes and didnt have 1 rebound to his name.

Thats just attitude.


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Luuuc
Last year
10:54 18 Nov 16

Reply #608573

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Let's see how they respond tomorrow before making sweeping statements about the team's attitude.
They've got top notch competitors in Lisch & Newley leading the team so I'm not expecting them to just wilt away.
(btw I'm not denying that they got pantsed in the effort areas last night, but that was 1 game)


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Anonymous
Last year
11:08 18 Nov 16

Reply #608577

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Thats Luuke, you then have to ask yourself why were "pantsed" in effort areas last night?

Looking from the outside, they go to an arena of the defending champs, havent wont there the last 12 times or something like that, have the champ to establish themselves as the boss of the league.

This IMO stems from the fact that they think they are better than what they are.

They got beat by the Taipans missing there starting pg and there best player. They also needed a buzzer beater to beat the Taipans int he return leg.

They also got beat up pretty bad by the Bullets.

To me this is all an attitude issue, especially from there imports.


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Luuuc
Last year
11:42 18 Nov 16

Reply #608583

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I think the Kings imports issue is a very complex one.

Tempo has an insightful theory about the subject that he's been working on, which delves deep into the many facets of it. Hopefully we get to hear more about that one because as wild as some of his ideas are I think he really might be onto something.


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LV
Last year
11:56 18 Nov 16

Reply #608585

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"What factors will you cherry-pick in order to claim the second-placed Kings are clearly the best team?"

There's no cherry picking involved- even after last night, they have the best record (7-4 with 5 home, 6 away is easily more impressive than 6-3 with 6 home, 3 away), and the best +/-, with + 39 compared to Perth's + 25.

"Cracks are appearing in the Kings team - maybe anointing them the greatest time of all time after just six games was a bit premature."

SMH.

I said- once they have their full team and once they click, they'll be stacks better than anyone else this season.

They havent yet got their full team, and it's still early days so we can't judge whether they have clicked. In other words the jury is still out.

I'll be perfectly happy to admit I'm wrong when the time comes- but it's far too early to pass any judgement at this point.


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LV
Last year
11:59 18 Nov 16

Reply #608588

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

FYI Sydney are still one of two teams who don't have a losing record away from home. They're 3-3, NZ is 2-2. Everyone else has a losing record.

Let's see if the Cats can do the same. I doubt it. Their only road win so far is a 3 point victory over United minus their best player.


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Anonymous
Last year
12:02 18 Nov 16

Reply #608589

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

LV, the real test is Perth in Perth and they couldnt even win without Martin who is probably overall there best player in terms of impact, especially defensively.

They finally pulled out from United in the 4th qtr...but have a look at why...United missing arguably their 2 best players, didnt have their 3rd import and Lisch and Cadee shot lights out from deep.


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LV
Last year
12:10 18 Nov 16

Reply #608592

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Oh Sydney's been rubbish for the majority of their last 5 or so games. Absolutely right.

It took a hot streak from Cadee in the first, and some classy efforts from Lisch in the last to get out in front of United, but as a team they didn't even look better than their opponent- who was missing 3 starters. And they got burned in the last in Brissy, got locked down in Cairns- yeah they are totally struggling, no doubt about it. Gaze needs to change their offense up, they run the same plays and everyone knows what they're doing.

It'd really help if Powell, Cadee and Whittington recaptured early form, and they just aren't clicking as a team. They can't rely on Newley and Lisch' brilliance to carry them through a season.

The ball is in Gaze's court now, they need to introduce some extra spice to their offensive sets. And the effort factor needs to remain consistent instead of wax and wane- rebounding remains an issue.

But I still think they'll get through it and come out on top- although Casper Ware's signing in Melbourne gives some cause for optimism there, Perth just keeps on being Perth. Cairns, NZ, Bris all looking strong. It's fun to follow this season.


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Nonanon
Last year
12:14 18 Nov 16

Reply #608594

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Let's see if the Cats can do the same. I doubt it. Their only road win so far is a 3 point victory over United minus their best player."

And there is the cherry-picked stat I was waiting for. Perth lost one of those road games by 5 to the Hawks, without Martin and Kenny. IF (and we're allowed to use "if's", right?) they had at least one of those players, the result would have likely been different and they'd be the only team with a winning road record. Daylight!!!

"once they have their full team and once they click, they'll be stacks better than anyone else this season.

but it's far too early to pass any judgement at this point."

So which is it? They will be stacks better, or its too early to pass judgement?


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LV
Last year
12:21 18 Nov 16

Reply #608597

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yeah but they were playing Illawarra- clearly the worst team to date- when you factor in health.

Even United minus Barlow, Blanchfield and Goulding stayed in their game in Wollongong until the last few minutes. The Hawks have literally played one impressive game all season, and you want to hang Perth's hat on the fact that they made it close against them, despite being injury riddled? Come off it!


[So which is it? They will be stacks better, or its too early to pass judgement? ]

Just to give you a bit of help here mate. Since you're clearly struggling here.

"They will be stacks better once they have a full team" or "it will be Kings vs daylight" - they are *predictions*.

It's too early to tell if my predictions will turn out to be correct. Hence, we can't pass judgement yet.


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Nonanon
Last year
12:25 18 Nov 16

Reply #608598

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"and you want to hang Perth's hat on the fact that they made it close against them, despite being injury riddled? Come off it! "

But you labelled Perth's losing road record as a key factor, while ignoring the specifics of one of their losses, yet being specific about one of their wins! You can't pick and choose when you want to look at things from a high level, or when you want to delve in to what goes on in a game eg Perth beating United only when they were missing their best player.


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LV
Last year
12:31 18 Nov 16

Reply #608599

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

It's pretty simple- Perth have been winning the close ones at home, and they've been losing them on the road.

I predicted that they wouldn't win many road games this year. So far I'm correct, since they're 1-2. Let's see if it stays that way.

But regardless of my specific prediction, the point right now is that Perth have had the easiest schedule to date- so even given their injury woes, 6-3 isn't all that impressive. If they can keep winning on the road, then I'll be impressed.


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SC6017
Last year
12:40 18 Nov 16

Reply #608600

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

LV are you kidding me? We almost beat a firing new zealand without a legitimate PG and our MVP getting fouled out, then beat the league leaders with a less than 100% back up pg.

I personally agree as a cats fans, that we can be quite arrogant at times but seriously we back it up? finals every yr, 7 chips and after the circus we've had this yr with injuries, imports etc we are again sitting atop of the ladder.


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LV
Last year
12:48 18 Nov 16

Reply #608602

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

You almost beat a firing NZ, whose Point guard had just gone down with an achilles injury and whose replacement hadn't arrived yet, you mean?

There's been loads of injuries this year, Perth's haven't been any worse than several other teams. (Cairns, Adelaide, Melbourne).


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paul
Last year
12:52 18 Nov 16

Reply #608604

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So just to sum up, LV has declared it's the Kings, daylight, six teams, daylight, then Illawarra.


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LV
Last year
12:58 18 Nov 16

Reply #608606

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yep. Very astute reading Paul.

Specifically- My prediction at this point would be:

-Sydney to finish on top, winning 18-20 games.
- No one else to win more than 17 games.
- Illawarra to finish bottom.


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LV
Last year
13:00 18 Nov 16

Reply #608607

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

But- not as confident in the Illawarra prediction, I originally predicted (before round 1) they'd be top 4, but they've forced me to reconsider.

But I figure Adelaide has the trump card- Jerome Randle- so he's the thing that has me putting Adelaide ahead of them.


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Anonymous
Last year
13:04 18 Nov 16

Reply #608609

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yes. Heaven forbid Randle gets injured.


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LV
Last year
13:08 18 Nov 16

Reply #608610

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I originally thought NBL teams would figure him out a bit, and he wouldn't be quite as effective this year. But he's been even more dominant. Based on what's happened so far, you'd think he's good enough to ensure- almost on his own- that Adelaide at least gets to 10 or 11 wins (which, historically would mean they're very unlikely to finish last).

But Illawarra have just been very, very disappointing.


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Dazz
Last year
13:08 18 Nov 16

Reply #608611

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Why do people insist on pointless arguments?
Arguing about who is "the best team" is puerile and usually the domain of sadsacks who just got proven wrong.
End of the day there will be four teams in the finals, and I expect both Sydney and Perth to be there. One will win the ring, they can lay claim to being the best team.

This was a great game, and in the end Perth won comfortably. Perth are tough to beat in Perth, harder for some teams than others.
I expect the return leg to also be a cracker, but you'd have to tip Sydney at home.

Why can't people just enjoy the season, instead of trying to crystal-ball the finish then mounting bitchy arguments to defend their predictions.


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Nonanon
Last year
13:16 18 Nov 16

Reply #608612

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Perth have been winning the close ones at home, and they've been losing them on the road."

But that win was against a heavily favoured United team so that must count for something...


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Anonymous
Last year
13:19 18 Nov 16

Reply #608614

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

@Dazz

People dont want to just watch good basketball and enjoy the competition as a whole in one of the closest and most entertaining seasons in a long while.

Having your opinions validated by people you have never met and never will is much more important than actually enjoying life.

You obviously have a lot to learn dazz. Im sorry to be the one to point out the obvious.


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paul
Last year
13:21 18 Nov 16

Reply #608615

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Just to sumarise LV, Randle has been completely dominant and Illawarra have been very very disappointing, as evidenced by Randle averaging 12ppg in two losses to the Hawks. ;-)


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LV
Last year
13:31 18 Nov 16

Reply #608617

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Yeah, as I said before, Illawarra have played one impressive game all season. That game being round 1.

Although Their second game- when they went down by 4 to Sydney, was decent too.

But no prizes from me for beating Adelaide sans Creek and Johnson. Randle can't do it on his own every night.


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paul
Last year
13:35 18 Nov 16

Reply #608621

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So to summarise LV, the Hawks have had one decent game, as well as some other games that were decent too. ;-)


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LV
Last year
13:38 18 Nov 16

Reply #608623

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

One impressive. No prizes for putting in a decent performance.

Most of them- and I've seen at least bits and pieces of the majority of their games- most of them have been rubbish.


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cats 4 life
Last year
13:43 18 Nov 16

Reply #608624

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

You got issues Lv


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paul
Last year
13:55 18 Nov 16

Reply #608627

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So to sum up LV, most of Illawarra's nine games have been rubbish even though they've won four, lost to Sydney by 4 and trailed the Wildcats in Perth by 2 with 0:40 to play.

Their issue isn't they haven't played well, it's they have had good patches mixed with really poor patches in games that have cost them, especially defensively.



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LV
Last year
14:08 18 Nov 16

Reply #608631

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Their D has been terrible.

They were very unconvincing in a home win vs United minus Goulding, Blanchfield and Barlow. They beat Perth minus Martin and Kenny and in Johnson's first game post exile, in another concerning performance.

And then they beat Adelaide minus Creek and Johnson. (I can't comment on this one as that's one of the few games I didn't see).

A lot of the time when they've played full strength opposition they've been made to look like fairly horrible- eg the first one vs Melbourne, vs Cairns and the game in Sydney.


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LV
Last year
14:10 18 Nov 16

Reply #608632

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

In fact, Perth beat them quite comfortable, leading all the way even though they only beat them by 7 or so in the end.

So in other words, when the Hawks haven't even got close to *anyone who hasn't been decimated by injuries*.


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paul
Last year
14:14 18 Nov 16

Reply #608634

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So leading by two points with 40 seconds to go is comfortable? I like the way you regularly redefine the English language on here, you should really be an anon!


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LV
Last year
14:17 18 Nov 16

Reply #608635

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Did they really trail by 2 in Perth?

I seem to remember they made a bit of a comeback, but thought they got to within 5 or 6, I don't recall them getting to 2. (No need to be narky, I don't go check the play by play every time I post!)

But even so, Perth was leading that game all thru the 3rd and 4th, Illawarra played 5 minutes of good basketball. If they'd snatched it, they would've stolen an opportunistic win. For most of that game, Perth had them well and truly locked down.

Even if they had won that, that'd still be 3 games out of 5 vs full strength opponents where they got given a beating. As it stands, they've copped 3 beatings and had 2 close (ish, I'll pay that then..) losses. Not impressive in anyone's language- English or otherwise.


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LV
Last year
14:18 18 Nov 16

Reply #608636

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

And more importantly, compare it to the other 7 teams- who have mostly had serious injury woes- and Illawarra looks pretty bad in comparison. Can they turn it around? I do have faith in Bevo- great coach. We will see. I tend to think the defensive issues are here to stay though. So finals highly unlikely.


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Anonymous
Last year
14:21 18 Nov 16

Reply #608638

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Why do people insist on pointless arguments with Dazz?" Fixed.


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paul
Last year
14:23 18 Nov 16

Reply #608640

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Indeed they did. Harris had a three-ball to bring them within one with about 20 seconds to go.

I think most of your comments this season - and I've read at least bits and pieces of the majority of them - most of them have been rubbish.


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LV
Last year
14:26 18 Nov 16

Reply #608641

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Well since many of my comments form the basis of bets I put on, and I've cashed in some handy profits and am on track for much more, I'll take that one on board with a grain of salt. My sportsbet account seems to agree that I know a thing or two. But hey, everyone's welcome to their opinion.

(Disclaimer: NBL is pretty much the only thing I bet on, since I think I know it well)


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LV
Last year
14:27 18 Nov 16

Reply #608642

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

(And Gamble responsibly, hoops.com.au doesnt condone gambling, etc etc etc)


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paul
Last year
14:29 18 Nov 16

Reply #608643

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Keep taking the bait LV, unfortunately I don't anymore time for fishing today, but to summarise LV one more time, I'll tell everyone I'm good at betting to cover for getting my facts completely wrong.


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LV
Last year
14:33 18 Nov 16

Reply #608644

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I said Perth beat them comfortably.

I forgot how close Illawarra got in the 4th (after Perth did lead comfortably for most of the contest!) That's a minor memory failure. Apologies for upsetting your sensibilities with my poor memory!!

(I like taking the bait. It's all good fun. I hang around here to see if I can learn anything. Occasionally, I do. And when I do, it's Often from you- if I will be willing to admit that for a second ;-) )


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Nonanon
Last year
14:56 18 Nov 16

Reply #608654

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"They beat Perth minus Martin and Kenny..."

Oh, so we're allowed to look at specifics again? Man, make up your mind.


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LV
Last year
15:00 18 Nov 16

Reply #608655

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

My comments stand as I state them- in this thread, my observations about Perth have been valid if you want to speak generally, or if you want to look at the specifics.

I mean if you want to talk "specifics" as far as Perth is concerned then they are *very* lucky to even be 6 and 3, since there have been loads of games where the result was u for grabs and could've gone either way in the last minute or two, and Perth has won most of those contests.


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LV
Last year
15:01 18 Nov 16

Reply #608656

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

PS: I never said you couldn't talk "specifics". Talk about whatever details you want.


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Nonanon
Last year
15:03 18 Nov 16

Reply #608659

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

They are also very unlucky not to be 8-1, with a winning road record.


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LV
Last year
15:05 18 Nov 16

Reply #608662

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

No, they're not.


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LV
Last year
15:06 18 Nov 16

Reply #608664

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

For them to be 8-1, almost every single close game would have to go their way. That would make them *extraordinarily* lucky.


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Nonanon
Last year
15:09 18 Nov 16

Reply #608667

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Why not? In two of their losses, the result was up for grabs and could've gone either way in the last minute or two. That is your logic. Apply it to the Hawks and Breakers for just beating them (both games without Martin and Kenny) and its very easy to put a positive spin on it.


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LV
Last year
15:14 18 Nov 16

Reply #608668

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

...which would not make them unlucky in the context of their season.


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LV
Last year
15:15 18 Nov 16

Reply #608669

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

I'm not saying it's a coin flip, either. Some teams will be better at closing out close games. That's what good teams do.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:20 18 Nov 16

Reply #608672

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"Let's see if the Cats can do the same. I doubt it. Their only road win so far is a 3 point victory over United minus their best player."

You forgot to mention Barlow didn't play either


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Anonymous
Last year
16:02 18 Nov 16

Reply #608680

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Stick to writing articles and stay off forums Paulo if you want to be credible please.


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Nonanon
Last year
16:15 18 Nov 16

Reply #608683

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

So his articles are good, but his opinions on message boards aren't....great anon logic!


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paul
Last year
16:29 18 Nov 16

Reply #608685

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

"I like taking the bait. It's all good fun. I hang around here to see if I can learn anything. Occasionally, I do. And when I do, it's Often from you- if I will be willing to admit that for a second ;-)"


It's all good LV, I'm sure you know it's nothing personal, just a bit of fun.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:55 18 Nov 16

Reply #608693

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

Anyone know the attendance at last nights game?


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paul
Last year
17:02 18 Nov 16

Reply #608697

re: Wildcats v Sydney Kings - Thurs 17th 6:30pm

10,364


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