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Mike
Last year

#40312

Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Adelaide 36ers 1.80
Brisbane Bullets 2.00

Do Adelaide deserve to be favourites?

Brissy won @ Cairns last week and Adelaide lost at home

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Anonymous
Last year
15:19 19 Nov 16

Reply #608856

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I'm pretty surprised that Brisbane aren't favourites, even though it's an Adelaide home game. Is Randle 100% playing?


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Mike
Last year
15:21 19 Nov 16

Reply #608857

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Is in he doubt?


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Anonymous
Last year
15:31 19 Nov 16

Reply #608859

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Rumours he might not play early in the week due to injury, but pretty sure he will play.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
16:22 19 Nov 16

Reply #608862

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Watched Issiah Thomas on ESPN today. Same height as Randle (5'9") 175cm and dominates. IMHO, Randle has enough game to be an NBA starter.

This will hopefully be a good close game. I'd have the bullets as stove hot favourites but I find this league very hard to predict.


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AKA
Last year
17:10 19 Nov 16

Reply #608866

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Bairstow out for the Bullets but Brisbane have the luxury of bringing Kickert into the starting lineup. Expect more minutes from Kicks, Petrie and Young I suppose.

No, Randle is not an NBA starter.


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Mike
Last year
17:15 19 Nov 16

Reply #608869

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Beal doe


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Zodiac
Last year
17:15 19 Nov 16

Reply #608870

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Bullets out 14-5 already


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ROFLcopter
Last year
17:15 19 Nov 16

Reply #608871

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

6ers stinking early.


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Mike
Last year
17:20 19 Nov 16

Reply #608872

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Stink early, stink often


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Tempo
Last year
17:21 19 Nov 16

Reply #608873

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Oh look at that ...the full court press results in an easy basket.

It is the MOST stupid thing i have seen in my life...it is ONLY used in the NBL....

NEVER EVER see it in the NBA...NEVER...because they to believe it is absolutely stupid.


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snooch
Last year
17:26 19 Nov 16

Reply #608874

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Full court press isn't only used in the NBL and it's stupid to claim it is.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
17:27 19 Nov 16

Reply #608875

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Lol. Teys airball.

How that bloke gets minutes has me stuffed.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:28 19 Nov 16

Reply #608876

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Isaac have you developed a Tempo filter yet?


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ROFLcopter
Last year
17:28 19 Nov 16

Reply #608877

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Then a dumb foul under the bucket. No game smarts


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Tempo
Last year
17:30 19 Nov 16

Reply #608878

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

The ONLY time i see the full court press in the NBA is at the end of the game when they have to foul intentionally.

It is absolutely NEVER EVER used during the game...NEVER.


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Zodiac
Last year
17:30 19 Nov 16

Reply #608879

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys should be benched for the rest of the game for that airball and then stupid foul.


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HoldenV8
Last year
17:32 19 Nov 16

Reply #608881

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Adam Gibson at point for Brisbane is showing more life than he did in his last 2 years in Adelaide playing SG.

I don't know about anyone else but it seems to me that Teys game seems to be going backwards. He just gets worse and worse.


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Zodiac
Last year
17:32 19 Nov 16

Reply #608882

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Out to 15


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Mike
Last year
17:33 19 Nov 16

Reply #608883

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Wow this is a rapage. Should have nibbled at Brissy 11+


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Anonymous
Last year
17:33 19 Nov 16

Reply #608884

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey apparently no happy with the 36ers defense lol


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Zodiac
Last year
17:33 19 Nov 16

Reply #608885

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Renae Ingles doing courtside commentary, nice.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:34 19 Nov 16

Reply #608886

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What a flop by drnic


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Zodiac
Last year
17:34 19 Nov 16

Reply #608887

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

"I don't know about anyone else but it seems to me that Teys game seems to be going backwards. He just gets worse and worse."

Yet Joey starts him.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:35 19 Nov 16

Reply #608888

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Why hasn't bairstow come on?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:36 19 Nov 16

Reply #608890

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is awful. Looks a level below


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Zodiac
Last year
17:37 19 Nov 16

Reply #608891

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

If we're going to be crap we might as well try and get something out of Ferguson. Starting Teys over him who offers close to nothing is poor.


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snooch
Last year
17:39 19 Nov 16

Reply #608892

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I don't want to feed the tempo, but have you ever stopped to wonder why the NBA is the only competition in the world where full court press isn't used?

Teys starting continues to be frustrating. It's not like his defence is even that good - and he's got zero offence to speak of.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:40 19 Nov 16

Reply #608894

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Has Craig gone to the next level this year?


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Duke Fan
Last year
17:41 19 Nov 16

Reply #608895

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Kickert is the biggest flog in the NBL.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:41 19 Nov 16

Reply #608896

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Gibson is a hack


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Tempo
Last year
17:42 19 Nov 16

Reply #608897

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Randle hugs Kickert...foul on Kickert LOLOL

I am going to become an NBL ref and i am going to bet on every game i officiate...watch me become a millionaire.

Who is going to catch me?


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AKA
Last year
17:43 19 Nov 16

Reply #608898

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Fair bit of home cooking going on! Zeb's keeping Adelaide in this one.


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Anonymous
Last year
17:46 19 Nov 16

Reply #608899

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Kickert triggering am Adelaide fast break by saving that ball


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Zodiac
Last year
17:47 19 Nov 16

Reply #608900

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

6 point game


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Zodiac
Last year
17:48 19 Nov 16

Reply #608901

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Doyle!


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ROFLcopter
Last year
17:49 19 Nov 16

Reply #608902

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Refs must've loaded up on the 6ers!


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Anonymous
Last year
17:50 19 Nov 16

Reply #608904

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Bairstow general soreness


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Tempo
Last year
17:50 19 Nov 16

Reply #608905

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Exactly ROFL...

Who is going to catch them?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:52 19 Nov 16

Reply #608907

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11


Te rangi is awful


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Zodiac
Last year
17:53 19 Nov 16

Reply #608908

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Petrie's had enough


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Tempo
Last year
17:53 19 Nov 16

Reply #608909

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

How do the 36ers make teams miss wide open 3s so often?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:54 19 Nov 16

Reply #608910

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

How was that a travel on Drew?


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Anonymous
Last year
17:54 19 Nov 16

Reply #608911

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

A beginners guide to Tempo's 3 favourite things to post on every game thread:

1. NBA players are in the NBL because they aren't good enough for the NBA

2. The use of the full court press in the NBL and not the NBA

3. NBL refs bet on every game


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Anonymous
Last year
17:56 19 Nov 16

Reply #608912

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Brisbane are ordinary


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Hendo8888
Last year
17:57 19 Nov 16

Reply #608913

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Is it just me or has this quarter taken like half an hour?


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Tempo
Last year
17:57 19 Nov 16

Reply #608914

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

EVERY single time the Bullets go full court press it results in broken play and an easy shot for the 36ers.

Are these teams/coaches THAT DUMB?


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Hendo8888
Last year
17:58 19 Nov 16

Reply #608915

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Get that shit out of here!!!!


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Zodiac
Last year
17:58 19 Nov 16

Reply #608916

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What a block by Hodgson!


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Anonymous
Last year
18:00 19 Nov 16

Reply #608917

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Agree tempo, giving up too many easy shots from the press


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Anonymous
Last year
18:02 19 Nov 16

Reply #608918

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Petrie revenge game


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Manu Fieldel
Last year
18:03 19 Nov 16

Reply #608919

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Top coaching by Mr Wright, putting Randle on Craig. What do you think is going to happen champ?


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Zodiac
Last year
18:04 19 Nov 16

Reply #608921

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

"Petrie revenge game"

It was Petrie that quit on the 36ers not the other way around.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:07 19 Nov 16

Reply #608922

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Brissie are doing well despite not having Bairstow at all and Jervis for only 5 mins.

Agreed with Teys taking a step backwards this year.

How he starts before TF is unknown.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:20 19 Nov 16

Reply #608924

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Good to see the refs calling fouls on the overly physical Adelaide


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HoldenV8
Last year
18:20 19 Nov 16

Reply #608925

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is a Joey Wright favourite.

That might explain why he starts over Ferguson.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:22 19 Nov 16

Reply #608926

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is hurting Adelaide out there. Not even really having a positive impact defensively


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Anonymous
Last year
18:23 19 Nov 16

Reply #608927

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey reminds me of a fan. Just huffs and puffs "we need to get stops" but offers no suggestion to his team how to accomplish that


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Zodiac
Last year
18:25 19 Nov 16

Reply #608928

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is horrible


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:25 19 Nov 16

Reply #608929

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is single handedly frying this game


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Anonymous
Last year
18:26 19 Nov 16

Reply #608930

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Randle heated discussion with Joey


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Anonymous
Last year
18:27 19 Nov 16

Reply #608931

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Teys is state league quality


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Anonymous
Last year
18:28 19 Nov 16

Reply #608932

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Adelaide bottoming out. NOT renewing my membership was sadly the best investment I could've made. Joey playing Ferguson yet? Or just letting him sit.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:29 19 Nov 16

Reply #608933

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Mitch young trying to challenge teys for biggest mug in this game


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Anonymous
Last year
18:29 19 Nov 16

Reply #608934

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Ferguson 15 minutes played no shot attempts 2 turnovers, fucked the pooch coming out here for a one off pay day. Should be in college, getting coached and developed.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:30 19 Nov 16

Reply #608935

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Not even all these phantom calls are helping Adelaide


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Anonymous
Last year
18:31 19 Nov 16

Reply #608936

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Craig dominant


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Anonymous
Last year
18:33 19 Nov 16

Reply #608937

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Hehe dwayno suggesting the sixers are still in this


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lawsy
Last year
18:34 19 Nov 16

Reply #608938

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Who's Shitter overall?? Drimic or Teys? Lol Adelaide has em both


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Anonymous
Last year
18:34 19 Nov 16

Reply #608939

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Deng and drimic no good , Craig much better than ferguson.


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snooch
Last year
18:35 19 Nov 16

Reply #608941

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Drmic's a rookie. He's got potential. And Craig has been a pro a lot longer than Ferguson, who's 18. Of course Craig is going to be better right now


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AKA
Last year
18:36 19 Nov 16

Reply #608942

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Dwayne has to try and keep the viewer interested.
Interesting exchange between Wright and Randle. It's obvious that Joey can't coach and perhaps Randle is getting frustrated with that.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:37 19 Nov 16

Reply #608944

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Randle dragged and not happy about it


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cats 4 life
Last year
18:39 19 Nov 16

Reply #608945

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

not taking the piss, how can a power club before turn so much? no one likes Perth, but they went through stages with injuries and lack of money but still kept up with other teams.

every one talks about f2f getting the plane back, why Joey Wright still there?

randle can take this team far but lacks the troops to get there even if creek was there, you need role player's to do there job.

like they have no balls! they need aggression all over the court.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:39 19 Nov 16

Reply #608946

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Adelaide RIP. These are what id call the lean years. Brisbane aren't this good, Adelaide are simply THIS bad. Pathetic effort in all areas.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:40 19 Nov 16

Reply #608947

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Adelaide's D is so bad. Joey clueless


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:41 19 Nov 16

Reply #608948

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Lol.
6ers have zero D.
The fuck they let in 90 points in 30 minutes of ball and expect to win.


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Hendo8888
Last year
18:42 19 Nov 16

Reply #608949

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Easiest $30 I've ever won.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:44 19 Nov 16

Reply #608951

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey has to go, he isn't getting anything through to this team. Fuckin embarrassing. When your time is up as a coach its clear, that time is now.


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Camel 31
Last year
18:45 19 Nov 16

Reply #608952

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Crsig looks pretty good , even though weigh lovers reckon he cain't play...


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Zodiac
Last year
18:45 19 Nov 16

Reply #608953

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey's in the first year of a new 3 year deal I doubt he's going anywhere.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:46 19 Nov 16

Reply #608954

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Full court press generated a turnover!!!

Lol @ tempo


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Anonymous
Last year
18:46 19 Nov 16

Reply #608956

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Then Adelaide are really fucked, Zodiac.


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Zodiac
Last year
18:51 19 Nov 16

Reply #608957

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Our attitude and effort tonight has been deplorable.


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Tempo
Last year
18:51 19 Nov 16

Reply #608958

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

ROFL...after giving up easy shot after easy shot from full court press it finally causes a turnover.

Yep, makes complete sense to do it


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Anonymous
Last year
18:52 19 Nov 16

Reply #608959

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Yeah reflects on the coach, signs appear like this all the time in AFL sides, and the coach is soon dismissed. They are dead and buried this season.


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:52 19 Nov 16

Reply #608960

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

The body language from Adelaide is horrendous.

Joey is screaming at players for not hustling back on D.

This franchise is in all sorts of shit.


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Tempo
Last year
18:52 19 Nov 16

Reply #608961

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What is harder?

Climbing Mt Everest OR getting a defensive rebounding in the NBL


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ROFLcopter
Last year
18:54 19 Nov 16

Reply #608963

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I was having a laugh Tempo.

I'd never run a full court press if I was coaching in a pro league


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Air Delay
Last year
18:54 19 Nov 16

Reply #608964

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Craig for MVP. Does it all. Great team player too.


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Anonymous
Last year
18:54 19 Nov 16

Reply #608965

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Drimic is nearly 25 and certainly not on rookie money, same with ferguson might be 18 but I'd like his pay packet.


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Zodiac
Last year
18:56 19 Nov 16

Reply #608967

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I mean most people myself included predicted we would finish bottom after this game we will be bottom so win-loss wise they're doing as expected but it's the manner in which they're losing.

Some of the hidings we've been copping already this season have been pathetic four our lack of effort. With such a young team you should be able to at least count on effort.


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Zodiac
Last year
18:59 19 Nov 16

Reply #608968

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What's new Torrey Craig torching the 36ers in Adelaide yet again?


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Air Delay
Last year
18:59 19 Nov 16

Reply #608969

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What's Randle's minute count tonight? I think he'd win the popularity vote V Joey...


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Mike
Last year
19:13 19 Nov 16

Reply #608976

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

What was Brissy 11+ paying?


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HoldenV8
Last year
19:22 19 Nov 16

Reply #608981

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

@Air Delay, Randle only played 21:03 tonight....


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Same old, same old
Last year
19:39 19 Nov 16

Reply #608986

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Ferguson looked lost. It's easy to say that he's not performing, but what has actually been run for him? You can blame the coaching as much as anything else. He obviously has potential but seems to sit in a corner and watch the offense happen. Can't score if you're not in the play and don't get the ball.

Randle looked fed up. Too many times he or Sobey had to drive into the key and force a shot because there was no offense being run.


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KET
Last year
20:02 19 Nov 16

Reply #608991

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

- 36ers still can't defend the perimeter, I know i've been banging on about it all season but you just can't leave players wide wide open like that. It might be their tactic to disrupt early, but they're not doing a good enough job so it doesn't work.

- 36ers allow the opposition to slip next to the ring for an easy basket. If we're not defending the 3 or the ring, I don't really know what we're defending, but I guess this one comes down to being a young side and amateur mistakes.

- Body language was bad. That was the biggest disappointment. Especially after Deng made two amateur turnovers, and then Randle had the chance to use his speed to compete for the ball and didn't bother - Joey was right to be furious.

- Wasn't Randle's best match. Early fouls, suspect defence, missed shots, didn't immerse himself into the game anywhere near what we needed. Here's the thing - if you just dribble for the sake of it, you're giving the defence a reprieve while doing nothing to create a basket. When Randle drives, uses a screen or makes a move like a crossover to shake off the defence that's great. When he's just standing dribbling that's bad. On occasion he ends up losing the ball which makes it look worse. Early on he was too busy dribbling in the same spot while Sobey, justifiably pissed off, was wide open shouting at him for the ball.

- Sobey had a decent match, our only real shining light I suppose.

- Teys wide open three.....air ball. He has the yips or something. Joey needs to get Teys to go back to basic - good defence, get some turnovers, create for team mates, try to get an open little midrange shot or a cheap close to the ring basket.

- Joey needs to work on developing Deng, Drmic and Ferguson so they find a bit of a niche in the system. At the moment they're trying to improvise to make something of themselves in the match. Usually that doesn't work for youngsters. None of them are really doing much more than the odd highlight and lots of amateur turnovers. I think Ferguson will soon learn you won't get away with cheap travels here, you can't let people get under your skin and you can't go around pouting because that's losing mentality.

- Johnson it's good to see you back. Sometimes Johnson shows a bit of killer instinct, although it rarely lasts more than a quarter or two. We need him to go Kobe level killer instinct if we want any chance of winning a decent amount of games this year


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Very Old
Last year
20:17 19 Nov 16

Reply #609002

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Re - "I don't want to feed the tempo, but have you ever stopped to wonder why the NBA is the only competition in the world where full court press isn't used?"

1)NBA has a 70+ minor game schedule, with some 3 game weeks, players don't have the stamina to do it across the whole season. THEN you may hit the playoffs with a game every second night for 3 x 7 games series in a row.

2)NBA players want to have Loooong careers, high energy frenetic TEAM defense for 50% of each game does not make that likely, so players do not want to play for coaches who will use them like that. College players have little choice and far shorter seasons.

3) its a defense that gambles on offensive players not making smart moves under pressure. Most successful NBA players have very good IQs, hell even most of the bench players. Not difficult for a reasonable NBA team to put 3-4 very smart players on the floor who would carve up a full court press without having to work too hard physically.



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Very Old
Last year
20:27 19 Nov 16

Reply #609006

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Also

1) very regular airplane travel ain't the best for recovery.

2) A FCP usually looks to double team the dribbler and pick off the pressured outlet pass. In the NBA 1) many of the ball carrying guards can avoid or bust a double team 2)many of the ball carrying guards have exceptional court vision and will pick the necessarily early defensive commitment to the intercept and then pass to the second option, which really %^^%'s a FCP.


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KET
Last year
20:37 19 Nov 16

Reply #609008

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

82 games


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paul
Last year
20:44 19 Nov 16

Reply #609012

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

The NBA doesn't have pressing defence, except late in games, because the players don't want to do it. With an 82-game season and the reality it could force them into bad plays, can you really blame the players for not being that keen?


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Anonymous
Last year
21:09 19 Nov 16

Reply #609039

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

KET the expert. As good as Joey is a coach.


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KET
Last year
02:40 20 Nov 16

Reply #609112

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Tell us how you really feel.


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sixtiesrockstar
Last year
08:38 20 Nov 16

Reply #609117

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I could understand Teys starting at start of season, but every game now when starting 5 comes out and he's in I cringe. I understand Creeks injury and depth. Last season everyone was calling out Sobey errors and forcing everything, but it was the minutes and role he was playing. Coming on/off bench doesn't allow player to settle, get anything going. This year Drmic is stuck in that role. Playing in bursts, on/off bench.
Also could not understand not starting Johnson. Okay he's missed couple of games, but starting with both Hodgson & Jacobsen when Johnson is playing. He was our best player by far last night and only played 1/2 a game. LOL. When sixers got the game back to approx 43-41 with 2min left in the half, Joey subs Johnson out for Deng. What for? A rest? He was getting a rest in 2mins. And the worst part was when 2nd half started he was still sitting on the bench. Why would you sit the one guy playing well on the bench?


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FreeThrows
Last year
09:18 20 Nov 16

Reply #609122

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey Wright doesn't have a system to coach to, which is why his young players, like Deng, Drmic and Ferguson are struggling so much. They have no idea where they should be, or where they should be going, on the basketball court.

When the 36ers finally realise this, they'll understand they either have to put a veteran team on the floor, or get an Xs and Os coach to take over a youthful roster with a lot of potential.


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paul
Last year
10:17 20 Nov 16

Reply #609130

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

IMO Adelaide's biggest issues are they don't defend with intent consistently and don't get enough boards when the oppo does miss. It's amazing they can score so many points when their D and rebounding isn't generating it - they need Creek back big time.

Players not understanding where to be offensively can't be too much of an issue when they're still 1st in scoring, 2nd in FG%, 2nd in FTA and 3rd in OR.

It's no surprise the top four at the moment are the four best rebounding teams, and running teams like Adelaide and Illawarra are struggling when they're the two worst teams on the d-boards.


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Master Chief
Last year
11:35 20 Nov 16

Reply #609137

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Under Joey, Adelaide's defence has been pretty much woeful for too long. Why can't they fix it? Game after game teams just stroll in and casually pass the ball around to open shooters. IF they continue to get burnt from it, why haven't they learnt anything from it? It almost looked as if Brisbane were scoring in slow motion it was that simple to improvise on the pressure and score. Joey, you can't just keep leaving shooters open !

I accept that Adelaide have a few inexperienced players at the pro level ( Not that young ) but we need to see better than this still.

I've said it before and i'll say it again, Drmic and Ferguson are getting NOTHING run for them at the offensive end. There's absolutely no spacing, movement or ball movement. I'm not using stats but i know Ferguson had no 3 point attempts and i can't remember any from Drmic. It's just ugly and mindless. Any other team would guarantee they at least get shots up.

In saying that, Joey is identifying some strengths to keep the score board ticking but they can be so much better. It's all futile though if you can't keep your opposition to under 120 points every time.

I don't like the balance of the starting 5 and when Creek returns i want to see this:

Randle-Drmic-Ferguson-Creek-Jacobson

I like Sobey and he deserves credit but i think he's more suited to be a scoring weapon off the bench. He's improvement will help settle that second unit when Randle sits. Johnson is just stuck between a four & five man again so i want to see him come off the bench for now and let Jacobsen patrol the paint with more space. My thinking is just why not with this proposal? Run and gun properly. If Drmic is longer term, throw him in the deep end.


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Hendo8888
Last year
11:53 20 Nov 16

Reply #609140

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Ferguson didn't take a single shot last night. In 20 mins of court time.
He had the dreaded 3 turnovers, 1 foul, 0 positive stats.
Funnily enough, he was only -2 in that 20 mins. So we were -16 in the other 20 mins he was off. So, even though he didn't do a single positive thing, he somehow made us significantly better than not having him on.


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Hendo8888
Last year
12:21 20 Nov 16

Reply #609143

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

No way you bench Sobey. He's the only positive to come from this season (other than Hodgson the last couple weeks). But we definitely should bench Teys. For the season. Give him the Deng treatment.
As much as we gave him crap all last year, Gibson gave us someone who can create for others. Randle is a fantastic offensive player, but he really doesn't create much at all. We have some shooters on our team, but no one to pass them the ball.
Drmic and Ferguson seem practically incapable of actually creating a shot for themself, so they need someone to get them the ball. For all of Ferguson's assumed potential, all I've seen him really do is catch and shoot 3 pointers. He basically doesn't use his athleticism at all, and I've never seen him beat someone off the dribble, or even drive at all tbh.
Deng's a bit of a black hole, but at least he does something when he gets the ball.
We desperately need Creek. He helps bring a lot of the pieces together. He's not a solution, but he'd definitely help a lot.


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Luuuc
Last year
13:07 20 Nov 16

Reply #609146

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I only watched a few bits and pieces of this game, so this is the first I've heard of this:

Wright wants Kickert banned
"Adelaide 36ers coach Joey Wright has questioned the NBL's credibility before a likely tribunal appearance for Brisbane forward Daniel Kickert for his head clash with Sixer Anthony Drmic."

https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/sport/a/33265645/wright-wants-kickert-banned/#page1


What's the go?


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Anonymous
Last year
13:22 20 Nov 16

Reply #609147

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I want Joey banned.


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sixtiesrockstar
Last year
13:25 20 Nov 16

Reply #609148

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Hendo8888 I think if the ball was given to Ferguson isolated on either the perimeter or the post, he could generate his own shot and get right to the rim. But he never gets that opportunity. They have to give him space and confidence. How would we know with Drmic as he never gets a chance either. I'm sure they would of got closer than Teys did with those open looks he had.
I think we should be starting Randle, Sobey, Drmic, Johnson, Jacobsen as our five until Creek comes back slotting in for Drmic. The Sixers do too much of the modern rotation crap meaning players are all split between 25-15 mins each. Stuff that. I want to see the starters playing 30+ mins each with slight rotations depending on fouls, etc, with 1 player subbed at a time and get some cohesion going. Problem is we don't have experienced enough backup guard off the bench and Drmic, Ferguson, Deng are similar so precious mins get split between them. You could see that even though getting old, Petrie just had so much experience, he was doing with the young defenders as he wanted.
How can semi pro players like Gaze, Maher,etc, play every minute of a game and the coaches today are subbing off full time pro's to play 20-30 mins. The best players in the team need to be on the court as much as possible playing 30+ mins.
If you watch AFL, even with all the rotations they do the good players are still playing 90% of gametime spending 1-2 mins off maximum at a time.
+/- are not very reliable statistic, as Deng was rated -5 yet he committed crappy turnover just before 1/2 time and 3 turnovers in a minute that helped blow the game wide open. Petrie only rated +4 yet he completely killed us.


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Zodiac
Last year
13:43 20 Nov 16

Reply #609152

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Luuuc,

At one point in the game Drmic got up in Kickert's face after Kickert had a foul called on him and he head butted Drmic. It didn't look too hard like a tap but was more than a nudge with the head.

I was surprised he wasn't ejected and probably should get a serious fine for it. Of course we play the Bullets again on Thursday night which might have something to do with Joey wanting him to be suspended.


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Luuuc
Last year
14:05 20 Nov 16

Reply #609155

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Thanks Zodiac.
Just watched it .. ~ 6:56 mark of the 2nd quarter. It looked to be very light contact so I'm surprised that "Drmic was sporting a sizeable red lump on his forehead" after it, but a head butt is still a potentially serious indiscretion even if it's not one intended to do any damage.


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sixtiesrockstar
Last year
16:01 20 Nov 16

Reply #609176

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I thought the refs would have checked that headbutt on the video, but they didn't seem to want a bar of it. Can't believe not one of 3 refs saw it.


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AKA
Last year
16:09 20 Nov 16

Reply #609181

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I could possibly see a fine for Kickert but not a suspension! Drmic didn't even come off the court so I doubt there is a 'sizeable red lump'. I imagine Joey told him to say that to hopefully get Kicks rubbed out for this coming weeks game. Smart gamesmanship by Joey but terrible career advice for young Drmic. No-one likes a snitch like that.
I imagine Joey is getting desperate, and rightfully so given his teams performance to date.
Let's see what the NBL does but after Maric got away with putting Wortho in a headlock, I'd be very surprised with anything more than a fine for Daniel.


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Anonymous
Last year
16:35 20 Nov 16

Reply #609191

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

NBL refs miss another serious incident. Heaven help us if Goorjian comes back.


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Zodiac
Last year
16:37 20 Nov 16

Reply #609193

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I would too it doesn't warrant a suspension but at the same time you can't have guys head butting other guys even if only in a 'get out of my face' kinda way. It's just not a good look and deserved an ejection (but the refs didn't seem to pick up on it) and a bit more than a token fine.

The act of head butting even just a bit of a tap needs to be discouraged in every way as even though Kickert's not a thug it's the thugs way of dealing with things in sport that aren't going their way.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:58 20 Nov 16

Reply #609220

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Three O springs to mind


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Anonymous
Last year
23:08 20 Nov 16

Reply #609247

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Check kickerts twitter. I'd say the word is well and truly put on how pathetic the 36ers are getting.


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AKA
Last year
12:47 21 Nov 16

Reply #609285

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Kickert been given a week suspension or a $1,000 fine with a guilty plea.


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Zodiac
Last year
13:11 21 Nov 16

Reply #609287

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

That's fair didn't warrant a suspension but also deserved more than a $250 or $500 slap on the wrist fine. At least a $1000 he'll think twice before doing it again.


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Zodiac
Last year
13:18 21 Nov 16

Reply #609289

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

AKA,

Where did you find this info? Nothing on the NBL's site or their twitter or the Bullets twitter for that matter.


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Kyrie2Nation
Last year
14:56 21 Nov 16

Reply #609310

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Daniel KickertVerified account
[email protected]
Looking forward to Thursday for our game against the Adelaide Thirty Snitches #dibberdobberswearnappies
RETWEETS
4
LIKES
11
2:36 PM - 21 Nov 2016
0 replies 4 retweets 11 likes

Reply to @kicks14

Joey Wright [email protected] 4m4 minutes ago
@kicks14 I'm looking forward to playing the Brisbane B ches as well see you Thursday

hahahahahahahahahahaha


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Kyrie2Nation
Last year
15:00 21 Nov 16

Reply #609311

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

And another

Joey Wright @jwrightseahawks
@kicks14 I'm looking forward to playing the Brisbane B ches as well see you Thursday

Daniel KickertVerified account
[email protected] Daniel Kickert Retweeted Joey Wright
Ohhhh I'm telling on you!!!



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Anonymous
Last year
15:03 21 Nov 16

Reply #609312

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Joey Wright is an idiot. Why bait a team you have no chance of beating because YOU don't coach defence. Embarrassing and sad.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:03 21 Nov 16

Reply #609313

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

I think Kickert needs to remove the word "professional" from his Twitter bio.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:08 21 Nov 16

Reply #609314

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

He was having some banter nothing too sinister in that. What's unprofessional is a pro coach getting caught up in it.


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Zodiac
Last year
15:09 21 Nov 16

Reply #609315

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Yeah everyone looks bad in that exchange. Kickert for whinging about being pulled up for doing something thuggish and Joey for not being the adult by engaging in it with players on social media.

Send both of them to the naughty corner for timeout.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:13 21 Nov 16

Reply #609317

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Nothing sinister but extremely unprofessional. Yes, Joey was too.


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Anonymous
Last year
15:19 21 Nov 16

Reply #609318

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

How can Kickert accuse the Sixers of dobbing? The footage was there clearly, it showed intent, contact and low impact.

The Sixers might have wanted action but why not? It could only help the Sixers if he was rubbed out for 1 game.

Kickert is unprofessional with that tweet but Joey shouldn't reply like that either. This makes the sixers look unprofessional after Creek's 'Yeah bitches' tweet .


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Isaac
Last year
16:16 21 Nov 16

Reply #609329

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Banter in his downtime is surely a non-issue. Probably creates a bit more interest in the next game too.


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koberulz
Last year
18:15 21 Nov 16

Reply #609362

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

Banter, maybe, but he's acting like a five-year-old.


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Anonymous
Last year
19:04 21 Nov 16

Reply #609374

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

#MaliceInBrisVegas


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Anonymous
Last year
19:07 21 Nov 16

Reply #609376

re: Brisbane @ Adelaide 19/11

It's his personal account. What's unprofessional is a coach reacting at all let alone calling them bitches. Joey has such a cool head when poked.


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