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koberulz
Earlier this year

#40587

WA SBL - January 2017

I thought one off-season thread would suffice, but I guess not. We'll try monthly, and see if that's more manageable.

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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:35 2 Jan 17

Reply #616165

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Who would be the title favourites right now & why?


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
10:45 2 Jan 17

Reply #616166

re: WA SBL - January 2017

You would think the Wolves with there core players back and that sour taste of defeat in last years GF would make them super hungry this year.


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Ben
Earlier this year
10:53 2 Jan 17

Reply #616168

re: WA SBL - January 2017

What was the rationale for changing the timings from 48 to 40 minute games going in to this season?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:40 2 Jan 17

Reply #616175

re: WA SBL - January 2017

There was no thought put into it at all other than some other leagues are doing it so we should do it as well. It's a shame IMO because 40 minute games are an inferior product. I can understand compromising the product for a league like the NBL to be more tv friendly but why do it for the SBL which will never be on tv. Such a shame.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:48 2 Jan 17

Reply #616179

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Word at Cockburn
Goodes owes over$2000 in driving fines. There is a warrant out for his arrest.
If he is picked up again he will be arrested. What happens in this situation? Would/could he be deported? Eagles could loose him before the season starts.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
13:45 2 Jan 17

Reply #616190

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I think it might be time for the SBL to have it's own category on this website.

If you click on 'Most Replies' (at the top of this thread), SBL-related posts have 3 of the top 4 entries, in front of the likes of the SEABL, BigV, Premier League etc.

C'mon Admin, do it!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:54 2 Jan 17

Reply #616209

re: WA SBL - January 2017

let's get this one up the top too.

To the guys questioning the 40 min change, how about leaving it, it's done, who cares what the rationale is. ALL 14 associations signed off on it and the commission too. Most of the people on these forums are 18-30 yo males, 48 mins don't affect us. However there are also families and kids who attend SBL games, and games finishing 11PM Friday night isn't that family friendly. Shave 8 mins of playing time off the game and you save about 30 mins of match time.

For those arguing SBL isn't an entertainment product, then from a development POV it means less time for the 9th and 10th players. These players should go and play Division 1. They should even be in the SBL squad. The SBL doesn't exist so Sam Curtis and Logan Viskovich can get minutes. is their 2-3 minutes of playing time developing them? No. Better off playing Division 1 and making the squad when theyre ready.

I think favourites for this year have to be Slammers and Tigers.

Slammers: Voelkel, Nichols, Weeden, Worthington, Lay, Hickert etc
Tigers: Armour, Cody, Scott, Bowie, Davis, Noordhoek, Johnson etc
Redbacks can get a decent import, you'd have to say they're in the top 4 conversation as well.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:57 2 Jan 17

Reply #616230

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Have the Slammers signed Hickert, thought he was playing for Perry Lakes


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:01 2 Jan 17

Reply #616231

re: WA SBL - January 2017

And Wortho having a year off or is their signings that we don't know about?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:07 2 Jan 17

Reply #616232

re: WA SBL - January 2017

How good is Voekel? And how was Jordan Swing for those who saw him?

Without sounding racist - have their been any other white imports the past half dozen years?


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Perth Wilburs
Earlier this year
22:36 2 Jan 17

Reply #616287

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Mark Worthington will be playing for the Wildcats off the bench next season, so it makes sense he plays SBL.

Redhage to play for Redbacks so they will be hard to beat.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:43 2 Jan 17

Reply #616290

re: WA SBL - January 2017

He means Trent Worthington I would assume, although he also states Jordan Hickert who I believe has signed with Perry Lakes


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
01:48 3 Jan 17

Reply #616323

re: WA SBL - January 2017

sources tell me Jordan returning to SW


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
01:51 3 Jan 17

Reply #616324

re: WA SBL - January 2017

watch Kyle Armours assists go through the roof. Scott and Bowie on the wings and Davis to dish it off to inside. He has no problem getting into the key, Tigerland will be dangerous.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:02 3 Jan 17

Reply #616349

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Hickert has been training with PL. Perry Lakes not in the top 4? BC an aussie and the possible inclusion of Adekponya and an import or two?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:04 3 Jan 17

Reply #616351

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Goodes warrant isnt for unpaid parking fines. Its for something else.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:26 3 Jan 17

Reply #616358

re: WA SBL - January 2017

would you like to elaborate on what the warrant is for?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:32 3 Jan 17

Reply #616359

re: WA SBL - January 2017

its nothing sinister.Its money owed related.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:19 3 Jan 17

Reply #616366

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Lol Hickert is playing for Perry Lakes unless you mean his brother Tyler but he is still in the US


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
18:19 3 Jan 17

Reply #616411

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Goodes warrant is for unpaid speeding fines and i hear he wont be given a clearance from Cockburn until they are paid.. As for Najee Lane that is another story ....


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:17 4 Jan 17

Reply #616497

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Goodes did owe speeding fines, but that isnt what the warrant is for. Its for unpaid rent.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:32 4 Jan 17

Reply #616498

re: WA SBL - January 2017

lol Cockburn have 7 days to grant a clearance once its presented to them. If they dont Goodes AUTOMATICALLY is cleared after the 7 days even if he owes them money. They can whinge an carry on all they like, but in the end Goodes will be cleared.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:50 4 Jan 17

Reply #616506

re: WA SBL - January 2017

That is absolutely not correct. 7 days automatic only applies if they dont respond. If money is owed, they have 7 days to deny the clearance - which you expect they will do.

Maybe eagles will write a cheque to cockburn to facilitate the clearance?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:42 5 Jan 17

Reply #616569

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Perry Lakes, Joondalup, Tigers and then the rest probably at this stage.

Slammers have potential but need to get it together. Cockburn could still be strong as long as they have Field and two imports.
Goldfields will improve but aren't proven yet.
Rockingham likely to slide.
Suns about the same.
Lakeside about the same.
Stirling might improve with Vague, but they still will struggle if they use an import spot on Ellis.
Redbacks probably about the same.
Geraldton could be very good if they retain Adekponya.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:07 5 Jan 17

Reply #616584

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Gero
Tigers
Wolves
Slammers
Hawks


The 40 mins reduced games should help Geraldton lack of depth.
If they retain what they had last year they will be top 4 again no doubt.
If Cook is now an Aussie and they get another import then they should win it all.

Hussey
Akeponya
Import
Import
Wunders

bench
Cook
Ralph
Wrensted
+ that other bench player.

That should be enough with 40min games.

Wolves -
Will not be happy after losing as red hot favourites last year.
Already made a change with Davis out and new import in.
Big call.
Hire would likely return, maybe need another import too seeing they lost to Field-less cougars.

Perry lakes - 2 imports and Carwell.
Will be around the mark.

Willo - will be tough
Davis
Armour
Scott
Bowie

Slammers - 4 Americans again so must be at least top 4.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:18 5 Jan 17

Reply #616588

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Giants should be big improvers, and their complete squad is already on their website so no second guessing...

C - Import (Holmen)
F - Import (Pillard)
F - Atem (36ers squad, SEABL & college exp)
G - Humphries (4 solid years at college)
G - Holloway (a proven point guard in this league)

Bench
C - Zunic
F - Exell
F - Murray
G - Reid
G - Goodluck


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:25 5 Jan 17

Reply #616589

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Who is Holloway?


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
16:39 5 Jan 17

Reply #616592

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Brandon Holloway.

Recruited from QLD and was our starting PG in 2015 when we went as far as the semi finals. But blew his knee out and missed the entire 2016 season.

Back for 2017 though.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:41 5 Jan 17

Reply #616606

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Is Holloway better than Goodluck though? Goodluck was underutilised I thought.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:47 5 Jan 17

Reply #616618

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Slammers won't make the playoffs


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:54 5 Jan 17

Reply #616619

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Cant believe they did not make finals last year.
Weedon/Easley/Crouch and Nichols plus the locals.
One of the poorer preforming teams that's for sure.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:05 5 Jan 17

Reply #616620

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Weeden is done, Easley was god awful last year, Crouch was one dimensional. Nichols was a one man band


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:21 5 Jan 17

Reply #616637

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Easley is at East Perth and Adekponya if he plays wont be at Geraldton


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:24 5 Jan 17

Reply #616639

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Yeah Easley and Goode at East Perth, better have some solid defensive guards


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:19 5 Jan 17

Reply #616667

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Chemistry will be a big challenge for the Giants, as well as depth in the big man dept. good 2/3 man combo as well as Holloway and Goodluck. Bench is thin but 40 min game will help - coaching experience is also thin but time will tell.

Wish other clubs would be proactive with their squads like the Giants.

I dont see alot of change from last year in terms of the usual suspects challenging for top 4.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:28 5 Jan 17

Reply #616668

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Word has it that AJ Mastrovich is officially retiring.IMO at his peak one of the best Aussie scorers in SBL history. Great career across multiple leagues and countries spanning 20+ years. Congrats AJ


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
09:59 6 Jan 17

Reply #616705

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Van Lit was a terrible coach, big part of the reason why Slammers didnt make the finals last year. Couldnt run a play to save his life. They should make it this year no worries


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:18 6 Jan 17

Reply #616706

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Perry Lakes are getting slept on.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:03 6 Jan 17

Reply #616741

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Van Lit is the worse coach hahahahaha


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Anon
Earlier this year
17:44 6 Jan 17

Reply #616753

re: WA SBL - January 2017

And what have you done? Made no attempt to get a grip on spelling either. hahahahah


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:56 6 Jan 17

Reply #616759

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ok apologies Mr/Mrs. Van Lit


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:05 6 Jan 17

Reply #616771

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I see on the Wolfpak twitter account that 2.5hrs before the SBL grand final the men's team had a "team dinner" eating zambreros.
1) - Surely Mexican is not the best pre-game meal
2) - Why change your routine just for the GF
Very strange!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:25 6 Jan 17

Reply #616782

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Team dinner on the Thursday I think it was....


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:32 6 Jan 17

Reply #616815

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Davis wont be playing for willeton, but the 2014 league mvp will be


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
23:22 6 Jan 17

Reply #616843

re: WA SBL - January 2017

C.Land @ Tigers ???


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
00:56 7 Jan 17

Reply #616846

re: WA SBL - January 2017

"Davis wont be playing for willeton, but the 2014 league mvp will be"

*but the 2014 & 2016 league mvp will be

That is if you are indeed referring to Cooper Land


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Zzzzzz
Earlier this year
05:06 7 Jan 17

Reply #616849

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Make that the
2015 MVP at Willo


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
07:45 7 Jan 17

Reply #616853

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Goodluck best used as a backup combo guard. He might be better but Holloway is better in that starting 5.

Humphris will be the interesting one for me. I would expect him to be a 15-20ppg guy.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
09:38 7 Jan 17

Reply #616860

re: WA SBL - January 2017

No davis at willo but turner will be there


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:24 7 Jan 17

Reply #616867

re: WA SBL - January 2017

"Word has it that AJ Mastrovich is officially retiring.IMO at his peak one of the best Aussie scorers in SBL history. Great career across multiple leagues and countries spanning 20+ years. Congrats AJ"

How old is he?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:11 7 Jan 17

Reply #616900

re: WA SBL - January 2017

AJ is About to turn 37. He fist played SBL for East Perth in 1996 and averaged 11 ppg as a 16 year old


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:29 7 Jan 17

Reply #616902

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Thought he was older, but that early start explains things.

If I recall correctly, he had a nice mid-range jumpshot at NBL level.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:50 7 Jan 17

Reply #616903

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Yes you are correct. He was always a great shooter from range even as a jiunior. Not many people know that he had a few elbow and hand surgeries in his early 20s which effected his range for a couple of years which is most of the time he spent in the NBL and yes he spent those years in the mid range mostly. That is why he came back from Europe the first time. Anyone watching him in the SBL over the last 6 or 7 years has probably seen how deep his range is. He has led the league in 3pt % a couple of times and actually did again this year according to the SBL website statistics. I'm not sure why he didn't get it at the awards night. . It's a shame I think he may have produced a lot more in the NBL if completely healthy.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:47 8 Jan 17

Reply #617223

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Feel for the Slammers as a lot of their good locals aren't interested in playing SBL. Look at some of the guys playing in the South West A grade comp and they could be legit rotation players and push their end of bench to the D League making the club as a whole stronger.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:41 8 Jan 17

Reply #617261

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Why would those locals be keen to train two-three times a week to sit on the end of a bench and watch the four Americans play? They have just as good of a view from the bar without the commitment


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
02:11 9 Jan 17

Reply #617279

re: WA SBL - January 2017

They wouldn't be end of the bench, they'd be starters or 7-10th man


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
02:08 12 Jan 17

Reply #617909

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Some amazing lineups coming this year, question is can they put it all together? How will that many people deal with one Basketball?


Perry Lakes are stacked with the signing of Adekponya and Carlwell as Aussies and then two americans.

Joondalup will get Hire and two imports.

Willo signed Ray Turner along with Armous, Bowie, Scott, 1 ball, 4 scorers. Will be tough.

Gero will find another two americans and another Aussie for sure.

Perth Redbacks have signed Redhage and whoever else they get as the two yanks, so will be interesting if Redhage will go back to being the guy he used to be and shoot 40 times a game.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
09:36 12 Jan 17

Reply #617923

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Redhage will have to put up 50, because they wont be getting 2 imports.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:17 12 Jan 17

Reply #617925

re: WA SBL - January 2017

do Kalamunda have mijovic and barr returning this season as they averaged 50 ppg last year that is a lot of points to find in womens basketball.
Mandurah magic 2x imports plus mullenax playing as an aussie ,2 veteran point guards in munday and bowie to steer the ship - plus a host of younger players julitz,simpson and will be better organised.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:16 12 Jan 17

Reply #617943

re: WA SBL - January 2017

im looking forward to seeing SBL in the new Mandurah stadium. the courts look awesome. Hopefully the team can perform better and they can get some crowds in there


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:24 12 Jan 17

Reply #617945

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Mandurah should be decent, maybe not a playoff team but not the pushovers they were last year. Two imports (Ricky Kreklow is one) and Mullenax back. Losing Smith hurts but Mully naturlaised


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anon
Earlier this year
12:45 12 Jan 17

Reply #617948

re: WA SBL - January 2017

https://thewest.com.au/news/regional/swingman-re-signs-ng-b88342305z


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:47 12 Jan 17

Reply #617972

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Geraldton in conversations with Kevin Davis after he was let go by the Tigers prematurely:

1- Hussey
2- Adekponya
3- Barrow
4- Cook
5- Davis

6- Wundenberg
7- Ralph

This team is looking very legit right now. That's 4-5 NBL calibre players.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:52 12 Jan 17

Reply #617979

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Agree that team is very very good. Only 1 NBL calibre and fringe at best. Adekponya.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:11 12 Jan 17

Reply #617984

re: WA SBL - January 2017

That roster isnt really that good if Adekponya isnt on the team.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:14 12 Jan 17

Reply #617985

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Is Adekponya better than Hussey??


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:21 12 Jan 17

Reply #617986

re: WA SBL - January 2017

yes he is much better


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:41 12 Jan 17

Reply #617996

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Yes he is, Husseyw as horrible at NBL level too


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Anon
Earlier this year
20:32 12 Jan 17

Reply #618024

re: WA SBL - January 2017

So who is Adekponya playing for, Perry Lakes or Gero? Or can some knob from Willeton tell us he's going to the Tigers.


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Some knob from Willetton
Earlier this year
21:44 12 Jan 17

Reply #618045

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Adekponya is going to the Tigers.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:38 12 Jan 17

Reply #618064

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Is Adekponya currently playing D League?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:44 13 Jan 17

Reply #618106

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Depending on where Adekponya plays (Either PL or Gero)

Either way there is only 4 teams contending this year

Geraldton

Hussey
Import
Adekponya
Barrows
Wunderberg
Cook
Bench
Ralph
Wrensted
If they don't get Akeponya surely another NBL frindge player of note.

Wolves

Illiadas
Salinas
Hire
Import
Import
Huntington
Maxy
Wellsted
Can even include questrel and the other Maxwell

Tigers

Armour
Scott
Bowie
Turner
Cody/Johnston
Not a lot after that, only Black Jn etc
They were only a decent big away from a GF last year and they have now got that in Turner.

Perry Lakes

Import
Import
Import (Carwell)
Adekponya
Purser
Bench will hv depth
Garlepp
Smith
Dixon
Cassir
Locals wont get much of ago but at least they will be winning some serious games.

Redbacks may be alright if they have S.R and 2 x imports.

Cant really see any other challengers.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:51 13 Jan 17

Reply #618107

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Adekponya in Europe.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:56 13 Jan 17

Reply #618108

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Perry Lakes arent going to have Dixon or Garlepp. Both are moving interstate.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:06 13 Jan 17

Reply #618110

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Josh Johnson not with tigers for 2017


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Anon
Earlier this year
13:50 13 Jan 17

Reply #618115

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Perry Lakes won't pay four players. Cassir done with knee problems.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:56 13 Jan 17

Reply #618120

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Cassir isnt done.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:17 13 Jan 17

Reply #618128

re: WA SBL - January 2017

sounds like perry lakes women are on the move as well- Candace Williams , Natalie burton, a returning college girl who her name escapes me but some-one on this forum would know.not a bad few additions after being only one game away from the G.F
is gabby clayton going to play for the tigers if sugar ray turner is going to play.


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Robs knee
Earlier this year
16:26 13 Jan 17

Reply #618148

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I'm cooked


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:29 13 Jan 17

Reply #618150

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Add to Willetton an emerging Lachlan Evans and Hayden Noordhoek returning. Jake Burston couldn't be tempted into returning to share the caught with his boy Stixy.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:46 13 Jan 17

Reply #618155

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Evans is still a year or two away from being ready.

Especially in 40 min games.


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Red75
Earlier this year
17:04 13 Jan 17

Reply #618160

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Cook won't be back to gero or anyone. He put on more weight since he left to go,home.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
20:02 15 Jan 17

Reply #618797

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Cook is not naturalised, nor will he be returning to the Buccs (or the SBL for that matter) in 2017.

Import
Wunderberg
Barrow
Adekponya
Hussey

Ralph
New Aussie guard from Melb

Adekponya has just been signed by a team in Denmark but their season will finish in early/mid April.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:03 16 Jan 17

Reply #618850

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Without Adekponya in the lineup the Centre import would want to have a little range. Could have 4 people in the starting lineup who are below average three point shooters.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:10 16 Jan 17

Reply #618857

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Highly unlikely they will have Adekponya. One report with a throw away line about negotiating and people are all over it. He is in Europe and there is no guarantee he comes back to the SBL after it.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
23:05 16 Jan 17

Reply #619057

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If Adekponya doesn't come back to the Buccs, their new recruit from Melbourne (who has NBL experience) will slot into the SG spot.

Their starting 5 will still be as strong as any going around, but their depth (or lack thereof) will be the killer.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
00:40 17 Jan 17

Reply #619070

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Who's the new guard?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:24 17 Jan 17

Reply #619090

re: WA SBL - January 2017

So what you are hinting at is that Benny Lewis Jnr is going back to Gero


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
12:35 17 Jan 17

Reply #619106

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Nope, but you're close.


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Anon
Earlier this year
12:48 17 Jan 17

Reply #619109

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tevin Jackson?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:58 17 Jan 17

Reply #619111

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tevin is with Cairns


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Anon
Earlier this year
13:20 17 Jan 17

Reply #619124

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Yea hence NBL exp


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:20 17 Jan 17

Reply #619125

re: WA SBL - January 2017

"their new recruit from Melbourne (who has NBL experience)"


Tevin is from Perth and playing in Cairns? Don't understand your point.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:43 17 Jan 17

Reply #619139

re: WA SBL - January 2017

gabby clayton at perry lakes,sam norwood at willeton - there are some seriously good teams starting to get formed in the WSBL.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:09 17 Jan 17

Reply #619142

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tevin is also not a guard


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:32 17 Jan 17

Reply #619144

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tell us Greg, how close is he?


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Anon
Earlier this year
15:33 17 Jan 17

Reply #619146

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Your right my bad on Tevin but he is guard he played PG in college but whatever mute point


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:31 17 Jan 17

Reply #619164

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tevin would be a great pickup for a club. Young, experienced now and def talented.


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
18:43 17 Jan 17

Reply #619204

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Igor ?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:58 18 Jan 17

Reply #619352

re: WA SBL - January 2017

No Zunic @ the GIANTS...moved town.

Makes them a bit thinner up front.


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Farrison Hord
Earlier this year
18:07 18 Jan 17

Reply #619354

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Here is my super early preseason ranking based on what little or known information is available about teams (in the hope of generating some more discussion or revelation of rosters):

1 - Willetton – Turner injection makes gives them an imposing starting 5
2 – Joondalup – same faces, same places in the upper echelon
3 – Stirling – expect them to continue their steady progression up the ladder with some consistency and minimal roster turnover
4 – Perry Lakes – arrival of Parsons hopefully gets them out of the 8th place funk they've been trapped in
5 – Geraldton – will inject or bring back talented players, bench depth forever an issue and time is running out for locals Wundenberg and Ralph
6 – East Perth – addition of Goodes and Tawhiti give them the inside presence they missed in 2016
7 – Rockingham – could have two solid imports on their hands, if locals progress then they can stay in the playoff picture
8 – Cockburn – unknown quantity, but there is still some talent in Cougar land for Nenar to work with, you’d like to think they won’t go from champs to no finals...again

9 – Goldfields – not sold on the head coach choice, will be interesting to see how they work out.
10 – Southwest – Nichols no doubt expected to carry the load, probably too heavy a load to see the finals
11 – Lakeside – still a very young but talented roster, pending on the quality of their imports and if some returning faces do come back, could be the improvers.
12 – Kalamunda – had earned some respect by the end of the season in 2015. not sure that the up tempo game style will pay off just yet though. Need a big man.
13 – Perth – Redhage on board. Only have them so low as no idea on who else is actually playing or returning to pair with him.
14 – Mandurah – tough times ahead for the embattled men’s side.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:53 18 Jan 17

Reply #619356

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Willeton lineup on paper is stacked. Not sure how they will make it work TBH. A whole bunch of Alphas on that squad.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
18:58 18 Jan 17

Reply #619357

re: WA SBL - January 2017

2016 Willetton
C - Funches/Johnson
F - Cody
F - Bowie
G - Scott
G - Armour

2017 Willetton
C - Turner
F - Cody
F - Bowie
G - Scott
G - Armour

Obviously Turner is a big addition, but really not much different from 2016 apart from some bench guys.

Is it enough to go from 18-8 to say 22-4?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:11 18 Jan 17

Reply #619365

re: WA SBL - January 2017

you lose Johnson to retirement but gain noordehoek off the bench.

Realistically the centre position was their only weakness in 2016. That and losing Alan Blacks fast and furious fist pumps on the sidelines halfway through the season.

Funches was largely underwhelming for the Tigers and bringing in a guy like Turner will put them definitely in the top 3 teams pending staying healthy


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Anon
Earlier this year
11:03 19 Jan 17

Reply #619397

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Will Cody stay healthy the whole year?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:45 19 Jan 17

Reply #619398

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I would have south west a lot higher than 10 - maybe replacing rockingham depending on where chauder pal is playing is he still with rockingham ?


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PL
Earlier this year
12:24 19 Jan 17

Reply #619400

re: WA SBL - January 2017

SW will not be below 4th. Nichols is a flat out winner.


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
14:36 19 Jan 17

Reply #619418

re: WA SBL - January 2017

From December 25, 2016: http://www.theadvocate.com.au/story/4375432/thunder-name-their-final-recruit/

"Chudier Pal has been unveiled as the North-West Thunder's fourth and final signing for the 2017 SEABL season."


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:51 19 Jan 17

Reply #619421

re: WA SBL - January 2017

^ 'Nichols is a flat out winner' - didn't they finish 10th last year?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:49 19 Jan 17

Reply #619432

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Tigers have 4 x studs, if all up and firing.
So will be a lock for top 4.

To win it all they need input from some others.
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Nic Cody had some hype a few yrs back but never really went on with it. 12pts/6rbds not mind blowing stats.

Need some of the bench or young guys to step it up a notch and they can win it all for sure!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:10 19 Jan 17

Reply #619433

re: WA SBL - January 2017

pretty much every team has 4-5 studs now.

Willo - the five mentioned

Joondalup - 2 x Imports, Seb, Trian, Huntingdon

PL - 2 x Imports, BC, Purser, Adekponya, Smith

Gero - 2 x Imports, Hussey, Wunderberg, Ralph.

I mean look at those teams. They all could win it.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:19 19 Jan 17

Reply #619434

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Giants

Holman / Pillard
Humphries
Atem

Those all could give you 20-10-4 on a given night.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:27 19 Jan 17

Reply #619435

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Im talking top 5% of league Studs

Willo - the five mentioned
No 4 mentioned.

Joondalup - 2 x Imports, Seb, Trian, Huntingdon

2 x imports if they get them.
Trian is a stud.
Huntington no - good player not stud.
Seb - was a stud not these days. No disrespect to him.


PL - 2 x Imports, BC, Purser, Adekponya, Smith
Imports need to see first?
Purser - No.
Smith - Hell no.
Adekponya - Yes
BC - Not on 2016 form.

Gero - 2 x Imports, Hussey, Wunderberg, Ralph.

Imports - Yes.
Hussey - 50/50
Wunderberg-Ralph No

I mean look at those teams. They all could win it.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:55 19 Jan 17

Reply #619442

re: WA SBL - January 2017

atem for the giants NO !!!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:00 19 Jan 17

Reply #619445

re: WA SBL - January 2017

re Nichols, yep 10th last year with absolutely no help whatsoever. It's a miracle he got that far. Reuniting with the previous import, those guys will be TOUGH.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:12 19 Jan 17

Reply #619451

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Totally disagree with you on Purser. He is the perfect australian 3rd option behind a couple of imports or Adekponya. Plays probably the best defense in the league and a capable scorer.

He is up there as the best 4/5 aussies in the league with Trian, Kyle, Gav and Adekponya.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:43 19 Jan 17

Reply #619479

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Not saying Purser is not a great player.
He is for sure.

But not an A grader. Not elite.
He avg 16/9/4.5 solid numbers.
Shoots at 40% and lead the league in total turnovers.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:04 20 Jan 17

Reply #619676

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Perry Lakes lost to the State 20's team last night


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Lol
Earlier this year
15:15 20 Jan 17

Reply #619681

re: WA SBL - January 2017

That state 20's team is deep I expect them to do well when they go away. Parsons coaching, sbl youngsters (grida, Shervill, Murphy, Evans) and the 7 footer from AIS no reason that can't push the vic and nsw teams


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:59 20 Jan 17

Reply #619701

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Is that the team of a tonne of Lakeside players?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:10 20 Jan 17

Reply #619704

re: WA SBL - January 2017

So who is the Geraldton guard. Currently or previously in the NBL?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:38 21 Jan 17

Reply #620020

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Who did Parsons coach in the scratch match ?!

Stirling signing Wroe, Ellis, Brandt and Vague. That is a solid team with room for another import.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
16:36 21 Jan 17

Reply #620041

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Considering Wroe, Brandt and Ellis are all on the SBL Restricted Players list, that's unlikely.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:56 22 Jan 17

Reply #620252

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Parsons coached the U20s


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:57 22 Jan 17

Reply #620254

re: WA SBL - January 2017

wont work considering Brandt and Wroe are still restricted. Wroe may fall under by the end of the season, but Brandt wont.


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Anon
Earlier this year
13:54 22 Jan 17

Reply #620275

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Restricted player list is now set. The court time for the remaining rounds is irrelevant. Wroe ellis and brandt will all be restricted for 2017 sbl season


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:17 22 Jan 17

Reply #620307

re: WA SBL - January 2017

unlucky then for Stirling.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
20:08 22 Jan 17

Reply #620525

re: WA SBL - January 2017

It's not unlucky at all. They can still have one import to join Ellis, like they did in 2016.

Like every SBL club, they know the pitfalls of signing fringe NBL players (like Wroe) so that's just too bad.

Brandt was never going to play in the SBL and will be playing in the eastern states or NZ in the NBL offseason.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:13 22 Jan 17

Reply #620528

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Sarcasm doesnt translate through the internet very well. Think its great they cant just add 3 NBL players to their roster.


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koberulz
Earlier this year
20:16 22 Jan 17

Reply #620529

re: WA SBL - January 2017

In fairness I don't think anyone would have considered the possibility of Wroe being restricted.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:18 22 Jan 17

Reply #620531

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If anyone signs Wroe as an unrestricted player they won't be going too far this season. Dude can't even average double figures in the SBL and his defence isn't that stellar. Just an average State League player that shouldn't anywhere near the NBL


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:12 23 Jan 17

Reply #620628

re: WA SBL - January 2017

It will be interesting to see about WROE. He is the type of player you want on your team at this level. Unless a team like Wolves, rotated him and Hire.

Redhage will not be restricted. Can we see Redbacks getting 2 others IMPORTS ?? Only way they would be considered a playoff chance I think...( AND THATS STILL UP IN THE AIR AS TIME GOES)


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
13:16 23 Jan 17

Reply #620650

re: WA SBL - January 2017

It's a tough situation for Corban Wroe. Unfortunately the rule is the rule and he would find himself in this situation in any league in Australia.

It's going to be a big call by any SBL team to use up an import spot on him. I wouldn't be surprised to see no club willing to do that, and Wroe being without a club in the NBL offseason.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
00:57 25 Jan 17

Reply #620831

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Talking about how Purser isn't a so-called A-grader got me thinking, who is the best unrestricted Australian on each men's team, and where do they stack up as other best Aussie options.

Geraldton: Hussey (assuming no Adekponya)
Wanneroo: Trian
Cockburn: Bob
Perry Lakes: Purser
Willetton: Kyle
Redbacks: Lewis Thomas/Vigor
Bunbury: Michael Lay/Ben Smith
Mandurah: Jarrad Jackson
Goldfields: Daniel Goodluck
Lakeside: Seva (if he's still there)
East Perth: Vague (if he's still there)
Rockingham: ??
Kalamunda: ??
Stirling: Coburg?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
02:05 25 Jan 17

Reply #620833

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Kalamunda : Kerrod Horn(when he is fit)
Rockingham : Ryan Godfrey


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:06 25 Jan 17

Reply #620849

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Giants - Goodluck / Atem / Holloway / Haney ?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:46 25 Jan 17

Reply #620858

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Seva Chan has moved back to Cockburn. However he is injured again.


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Anon
Earlier this year
11:08 25 Jan 17

Reply #620860

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Vague is gone to Stirling


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:38 25 Jan 17

Reply #620887

re: WA SBL - January 2017

So whats Stirlings lineup looking like ?

C-Import
F-Ellis
F-Vague
G-Coburn
G-Bruton ???? No idea from there on...

They would be filling the guard spoke without Wroe with someone I guarantee.


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koberulz
Earlier this year
18:58 25 Jan 17

Reply #620892

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Is there any process for appealing restricted status? Wroe being restricted is pretty clearly not within the spirit of the rule.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:20 25 Jan 17

Reply #620893

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ellis being restricted at his junior club because he hasn't played enough games doesn't seem in the spirit either but the rule is the rule


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SBLFan
Earlier this year
19:49 25 Jan 17

Reply #620894

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Best unrestricted Aussies last season, based on AustraliaBasket rankings:

Cockburn - Gavin Field
Joondalup - Trian Iliadis
Willetton - Kyle Armour
Geraldton - Jackson Hussey
Rockingham - Chudier Pal
Stirling - Adrian Majstrovich
Perth - Michael Vigor
Perry Lakes - Ben Purser
East Perth - Rhys Vague
South West - Trent Worthington
Lakeside - Tom Parkinson
Goldfields - Russell Hurst
Kalamunda - Timothy Squire
Mandurah - Benjamin Smith


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
19:59 25 Jan 17

Reply #620895

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Buccs sign American forward Dwayne Benjamin

MEDIA RELEASE Wednesday 25th January 2017.
"The S&K Electrical Buccaneers are excited to confirm the signing of a second restricted player for the upcoming season, who will play alongside fellow American, Maurice Barrow.
The S&K Electrical Geraldton Buccaneers Basketball Club's coaching staff and selection committee would like to announce its newest signing in Dwayne Benjamin and would like to welcome him to the Buccs family for the upcoming 2017 SBL Season.
Dwayne hails from the highly regarded Oregon University and is an extremely mobile and athletic player. His versatility enables him to play a number of positions comfortably and he is an excellent offensive threat. Dwayne is an aggressive finisher and offensive rebounder, who loves to run the floor. Most pleasingly though, is the fact that he also fits our main criteria of being a willing defensive presence. Dwayne will be joining the team within the next four weeks."


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koberulz
Earlier this year
20:37 25 Jan 17

Reply #620896

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ellis being restricted at his junior club because he hasn't played enough games doesn't seem in the spirit either but the rule is the rule
Ellis is an NBL-level player, though, and more likely to find a team willing to spend a restricted player spot on him. Wroe is basically out of basketball for a year.

Although yes, it really should take WABL into account, if it doesn't. I'm not actually all that familiar with the rule.


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Paul
Earlier this year
21:21 25 Jan 17

Reply #620897

re: WA SBL - January 2017


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
21:23 25 Jan 17

Reply #620898

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Dwyane Benjamin AKA Snoop Dogg for all the Bill Walton fans out there...


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Paul
Earlier this year
21:23 25 Jan 17

Reply #620899

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Wroe will be at Stirling done deal. Caleb Davis to come in as well as Josh Throns.


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Greg Gurr
Earlier this year
00:16 26 Jan 17

Reply #620907

re: WA SBL - January 2017

So Stirling will use an import spot on Wroe?

Not what I have heard coming from Warwick.


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Paul
Earlier this year
01:09 26 Jan 17

Reply #620908

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Not like you to have inside info Greg. I hear different. I agree with you though. Seems a waste of an import/restricted player spot.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:00 27 Jan 17

Reply #621071

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Gero new import looks SOLID....Will give them some length but not alot of muscle.
Alot of pressure on Hussy to stay healthy and run the show with both imports being BIGS.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:40 27 Jan 17

Reply #621094

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Gero import looks LEGIT!!!


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Anon
Earlier this year
15:22 27 Jan 17

Reply #621114

re: WA SBL - January 2017

He is a wing guy looks super athletic should be a good add for Gero


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:33 27 Jan 17

Reply #621115

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Any news from Giants camp about the arrivals of any of there numerous new players?


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SBLFan
Earlier this year
17:25 27 Jan 17

Reply #621127

re: WA SBL - January 2017

^ Apparently, Murray will no longer be joining the Giants.


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
19:10 27 Jan 17

Reply #621141

re: WA SBL - January 2017

For all those hungry for news from the Giants...

Yes, Geordie Murray will no longer be moving to Kalg after a potential job transfer fell through.

Dave Humphries will also not be playing for us in 2017 after suffering a season-ending shoulder injury a couple of weeks ago.

Atem Atem arrives in Kalgoorlie next week and Brandon Holloway the week after.

Our two imports (Jacob Holmen and JB Pillard) will arrive in Kalgoorlie after their Visa's have been approved, which should be sometime in February.

As far as replacements go for Geordie and Dave, we have just signed a swingman from the Premier League in Adelaide and a scoring guard from Queensland. Details of those signings will be made available in the next few days.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:44 27 Jan 17

Reply #621145

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Willetton looking for 3 cars for their imports. With Turner and Bowie signed, that means they're probably signing a female import. Whitcomb confirmed at Willetton but she defs has her own car. Deep pockets at Willetton.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:06 29 Jan 17

Reply #621415

re: WA SBL - January 2017

My boy Riggedy Ray 'Sugarhill' Turner just touched down in P Town waddduppo! HOOODEEEEHOOOOO. Yo Tigez about to run amok in this piece AIIGHT? First dey had Ma boy Julius Bowie clutchin, then signed Ma boy Charles FunchmasterFlex. I mean fair play to him, Chuck weren't the right piece but yo they was one game out of the Chip!

But now. Ohhhhhhhhhhhh baby! You got Ma boy Julius, knocking them mid rangers clean, swiping the ball away like it's the Rucker, and then now you ADDING Rizzay?! Fuar. Bruh they ain't playing no more. Maybe Geraldton be the only team to challenge, coz they fine as all hell too, but man. You cats remember when Ray Turner aka William Turner aka bootstrap Bill dropped like 60/30 on the Tigers like 2 years ago. Man. I mean, he had Corey Easley scrubbing the main deck and Ephrem Davis tightening the ropes. AYE AYE CAPT'n!

This gone be some special young pups, you best believe, Willetton gone be turnt in this itch. RAY TURNER GONNA COME IN HERE AND PUT CASES ON ALLLLLLL YOU . YALL GONNA BE PLAYING BASKETBALL, in PELICAN BAY!


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
14:01 29 Jan 17

Reply #621428

re: WA SBL - January 2017


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Ras Posse
Earlier this year
14:03 29 Jan 17

Reply #621431

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Thanks Denzel.... lol


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:17 30 Jan 17

Reply #621609

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ignoring the above nonsense I am interested to see how Turner fits in at Willoland. At Redbacks he was the sole focus of the team and got his whenever he wanted. Now he comes in as the best player on the Tigers, but is Bowie willing to sacrifice? It seems like Scott will probably be the one who takes the biggest hit, but maybe his numbers stay the same he just becomes more efficient.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:49 30 Jan 17

Reply #621615

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Been over a month since anything has been posted to the SBL website.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:56 30 Jan 17

Reply #621618

re: WA SBL - January 2017

sounds like lako opening the chequebook for 2017

redhage and vigor signed. both would be getting decent coin there

Ben Smith and Wagner on some coin

chasing a high level import as well as dexter kernich drew. $$$

could make for a ripper lineup but will be expensive


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:11 30 Jan 17

Reply #621624

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If only Lako could open up the playbook as well they might be successful


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:09 30 Jan 17

Reply #621639

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If only Perth had a coach for all that talent


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:07 31 Jan 17

Reply #621840

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Corban Wroe restricted status lifted.

Different rules for different people.

Ok we all understand he is no where close to NBL standard and really barely a decent SBL player (9pts & 5ast in 2016).

However rules are rules and it shouldnt be based on hio lack of talent!


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koberulz
Earlier this year
15:15 31 Jan 17

Reply #621842

re: WA SBL - January 2017

It's pretty clearly well outside the spirit of the rule. As long as there was a process in place to do that, it's fine.

If there wasn't, then that's more of a problem, but I'd take more of an issue with the lack of available process than with it happening anyway.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:17 31 Jan 17

Reply #621843

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Just opens up the door for other restricted players now I guess.


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Red74
Earlier this year
15:41 31 Jan 17

Reply #621847

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Read the article. It explains the reasons.

http://websites.sportstg.com/assoc_page.cgi?client=1-5011-0-0-0&sID=78732&&news_task=DETAIL&articleID=52057493


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koberulz
Earlier this year
15:41 31 Jan 17

Reply #621848

re: WA SBL - January 2017

How many restricted players are there that wouldn't even have been on the court at all if it weren't for injuries?


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koberulz
Earlier this year
15:44 31 Jan 17

Reply #621850

re: WA SBL - January 2017

In the list supplied by Basketball Australia, games when a player does not hit the court are not calculated into the minute's average.
I actually had that thought a few days ago and was going to ask if it was the case. Those should always have counted as zero-minute games for the calculation of his average.

A process was in place, and it was followed. No complaints about this at all.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:22 31 Jan 17

Reply #621852

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I disagree. Games where a player has not been selected in the side should not count towards their minutes calculation.

If a player is injured for 75% of the year and then comes and plays 20 mins a game. They won't be restricted by this method as they will have 18 games of 0 minutes and then 8 games of 20 mins. Bringing them well below the threshold.


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koberulz
Earlier this year
16:25 31 Jan 17

Reply #621853

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Nobody's talking about games where he was injured. They're talking about games where he was available, and suited up, and just didn't get on the court.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:33 31 Jan 17

Reply #621854

re: WA SBL - January 2017

No - re read the article. They are talking about games where he was available to be selected in the side. But he wasn't selected e.g. Not suited up in uniform.

Those games should not count and they have included them.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:38 31 Jan 17

Reply #621856

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Either way he shouldn't be restricted so I agree it is not in the spirit of the rule


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koberulz
Earlier this year
16:40 31 Jan 17

Reply #621857

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If he was available, why shouldn't they count?

Round 1 @ BRS: On the boxscore, 0 minutes.
Round 1 vs CNS: On the boxscore, 0 minutes.
Round 2 vs NZB: On the boxscore, 0 minutes.
Round 3 vs ILL: Not on the boxscore
Round 3 @ MEL: Not on the boxscore

The SBL Commission undertook a complete review of Corban's minutes this NBL season and found the calculations flawed, with a healthy Corban Wroe not given any court time five times during rounds 1 to 14.
So those first three games where he was suited up didn't count either.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:05 31 Jan 17

Reply #621861

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If you suit up it should count as game played.
Simple.
Black and white.

Now its blurred with this ruling.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:09 31 Jan 17

Reply #621862

re: WA SBL - January 2017

^My point exactly


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koberulz
Earlier this year
17:23 31 Jan 17

Reply #621865

re: WA SBL - January 2017

If you suit up it should count as game played.
Simple.
Black and white.

Now its blurred with this ruling.
Prior to this ruling, games in which he suited up didn't count.

I'm not sure if they've counted the Illawarra and Melbourne games as well, but the first three absolutely should have counted, but didn't.


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Farrison Hord
Earlier this year
17:37 31 Jan 17

Reply #621866

re: WA SBL - January 2017

SBL baked this ruling and now it is open to interpretation and challenge in the future.

It looks like it was simply a mercy blessing for Wroe in order to keep him out of early retirement or an extended absence from the court.


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
17:41 31 Jan 17

Reply #621868

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I don't have a problem with this decision, as basically the calculation was wrong.

It's simple really - if you look at every game that Corban Wroe suited up, he ended up averaging LESS THAN 10mins per game.

Let's also not get confused between a boxscore/stats sheet and an official scoresheet. You are still down as a 'game played' on a scoresheet, irrespective of whether you went on the court or not.

Correct decision, and those who still don't think it is would probably have a different opinion if it was one of their players.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:47 31 Jan 17

Reply #621869

re: WA SBL - January 2017

^
Agree.

If your playing 30minutes in any games in NBL regardless of injuries, its still 30mins!!

Yeah be interesting if it was am ore talented player what the ruling would be!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:52 31 Jan 17

Reply #621870

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Lukosius - On NBL website
Corban Wroe Perth Wildcats 14games 10.47mins


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
17:55 31 Jan 17

Reply #621872

re: WA SBL - January 2017

^^^

Yep, that is based on the boxscores, and is for stats reasons.

Give the NBL a call, ask the question, they will refer to the actual scoresheets and confirm that he played more than 14 games.


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Lukosius
Earlier this year
19:06 31 Jan 17

Reply #621873

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Just did my own calculations by looking at all the boxscores....

Up to when the Restricted Players list was finalised and published by the NBL, Corban Wroe played 16 games and recorded 145 mins and 12 secs.

Which is an average of 9.1 minutes per game.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:12 31 Jan 17

Reply #621874

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ok if he suited up for 16 games and avg 9.1mins then that is fine. I will let him play now hehehe.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:35 31 Jan 17

Reply #621876

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Watch the SBL become boring now with the transition from 48 to 40 mins.


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Watcher
Earlier this year
20:11 31 Jan 17

Reply #621879

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Sorry but rules are rules and now the SBL commission are making them up as they go along just to suit some clubs. Bet there will be others who will contest players being restricted now but they will not be allowed to play as unrestricted. Of course depending which club it is?? It can also work the other way where a good player could be out most of the NBL season and come back into the team and play 40 mins per game after the list is produced and therefore not be restricted.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:40 31 Jan 17

Reply #621880

re: WA SBL - January 2017

the fact of the matter is, would you rather fork out $10 to go see johnno moon running the show for stirling or corban wroe?

the league is better for it having a perth wildcat in the league.

people keep quoting his 9 and 6 stats but don't forget he had Adrian majstrovich on his team along with ellis, import and bruton all who weren't shy to get a shot or two up. He is a tough physical defender, doesn't turn the ball over and distributes for others. Much like Taylor land was for Rocko

I am not saying he set the world on fire or expect that his numbers will drastically change this year, just that he is a better player than some of the other chumps running around.


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The Cap
Earlier this year
21:25 31 Jan 17

Reply #621886

re: WA SBL - January 2017

The bigger picture here is that again a strong financial club can ignore the rules and bring in another outside player. That will mean that Ellis, Vague, wroe and an import are getting paid and I imagine some of the other locals are already getting looked after.?Any salary cap is brought in with league equalisation in mind and this doesn't occur. They may hide funds in various ways, taking junior development sesisions etc but we aren't stupid. This isn't a Senator bashing exercise because I can name numerous examples over the last 5 years where clubs spend up and it isn't a fair playing field. Either get rid of the Cap altogether or the league commission need to do something to regain credibility.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:01 31 Jan 17

Reply #621889

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Simple answer here is had the club appealing been Mandurah, Rockingham or Kalamunda, then there is very little doubt that the appeal would have been thrown out due to it not being a high profile club. This is not a dig at Stirling, but they in many ways will be the golden child for BWA this year given they will very much be the face of WA Basketball hosting the 16s Nationals in July, and what better way to improve that 'brand' than to have three NBL calibre players in Ellis, Wroe & Vague plastered all over Warwick Stadium in Senators Uniforms during the national showcase.


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Watcher
Earlier this year
11:16 1 Feb 17

Reply #621921

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Here Here Anonymous. The same ol shit happening year after year with BWA and their so called rules being changed to suit the higher profile clubs. In saying that though think Mandurah were looked after pretty well by BWA when they were having all their financial woes. No way were they financial with SBL and yet were allowed to continue playing.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:18 1 Feb 17

Reply #621922

re: WA SBL - January 2017

after watching a highlight reel of ricky krecklow the new signing for Mandurah. he looks as though he plays a lot like last years import in trevor setty


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:23 1 Feb 17

Reply #621924

re: WA SBL - January 2017

haha these posts are ludicrous

time to get past this one. its not a big deal. wroe vague ellis and an import are still not going to do anything other than be a playoff team.



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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:54 1 Feb 17

Reply #621932

re: WA SBL - January 2017

let them have Wroe. He wouldnt even be in the top 10 PGs in the SBL. Much better players on other teams that run rings around him. He really isnt that good.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:56 1 Feb 17

Reply #621933

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Im not a big fan but I would have him on my team! He is a TOP 5-6 PG in this league without question. Dont be silly.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:27 1 Feb 17

Reply #621937

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Yeah you would take him on your team, last year I would rank Ellis,Linberg,Litterick,Aj,Coburn all in front of him.
Bruton too even though he getting older he still gives you that 3pt threat to open the floor.

So yeah you would take him in your team for sure but he would be the 6th or 7th most valuable.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:38 1 Feb 17

Reply #621940

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Ricky Kreklow is much better than Setty.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:44 1 Feb 17

Reply #621962

re: WA SBL - January 2017

while on Mandurah I see on the albury Wodonga lady bandits web-site today that last seasons all-star import adijat adams has signed with the club for 2017.


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Anon
Earlier this year
16:07 1 Feb 17

Reply #621964

re: WA SBL - January 2017

I would take Ricky Kreklow just because he played D1 at Creighton


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bv
Earlier this year
14:18 9 Feb 17

Reply #623565

re: WA SBL - January 2017

wsbl movements
willo- haughton-norwood
stirling-kisha lee- import martin
perth- clayton- import harmon
slammers import
perry lakes- osulivan
east perth ?
cockburn?
magic ?
wanneroo -wishar - hayward
lakeside ?
flames english


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:22 9 Feb 17

Reply #623566

re: WA SBL - January 2017

Please don't bump the January thread when there is already a busy February thread in use


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