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Anonymous
Earlier this year

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36ers vs United, Jan 12

1st place 36ers (13-7) take on 4th Place Melbourne united (10-10) at titanium security Arena

Previous Meetings this Season
R2- Melbourne 79 to Adelaide 87
R3- Adelaide 87 to Melbourne 98
R13- Melbourne 104 to Adelaide 73

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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
10:15 12 Jan 17

Reply #617924

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

If 36ers lose to Melbourne and Perth this week, then Perth goes to top of table?


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AC
Earlier this year
10:18 12 Jan 17

Reply #617926

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

Not sure if Goulding will be playing.

I'm tipping 36ers just slightly with Goulding due to their form and home court advantage, and without Goulding I think it'll be a write off.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:23 12 Jan 17

Reply #617927

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

Looks like no Goulding , blanchfield and moore


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Bear
Earlier this year
10:28 12 Jan 17

Reply #617928

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

6'ers at home, Wildcats to be dark horses!


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RG
Earlier this year
10:28 12 Jan 17

Reply #617929

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

I'm expecting a huge game from Randle after being upstaged by Ware last time. Sobey will also want to make up for his last game against Melbourne.

I expect Adelaide to run Melbourne into the ground and win.


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Tornado
Earlier this year
10:43 12 Jan 17

Reply #617931

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

Stop tipping the 36ers...they play better as underdogs! :-)


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:23 12 Jan 17

Reply #617938

re: 36ers vs Melbourne United 12th Dec at 7PM

Adelaide
Daylight
Melbourne


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:43 12 Jan 17

Reply #617939

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

"Rio Olympian Chris Goulding (ankle), import Ramone Moore (injury not revealed) and Todd Blanchfield (head knock) could all be game-day withdrawals after battling injuries this week." From The Age yesterday.


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
11:57 12 Jan 17

Reply #617941

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

"If 36ers lose to Melbourne and Perth this week, then Perth goes to top of table?"

Sixers have 3 more wins and 2 less losses than Perth. So we'd still be a win above them.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:37 12 Jan 17

Reply #617947

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Just Perth fans being Perth fans. If australia is blown up but wa survives the Armageddon do the cats win the title? Sad.


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Tom
Earlier this year
12:57 12 Jan 17

Reply #617950

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Gouldings absence puts too much on Ware.
I like the way Randle is picking his moment when he needs to get involved offensively. He looks like he is in charge. He's letting Sobey, Creek, johnson and the bench take the lead. Chimes in when he needs to.
Sixers comfortably.


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overloaded
Earlier this year
13:02 12 Jan 17

Reply #617951

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Sixers easily. 10+


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LV
Earlier this year
13:51 12 Jan 17

Reply #617953

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

If Goulding, Blanchfield and Moore all miss then 36ers should win comfortably.

With a game coming up on Saturday night, I'd prefer United played it safe with Goulding's ankle and sat him out if he isn't 100%. Save him for Saturday.

Ramone Moore has an "undisclosed injury". ???


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cats 4 life
Earlier this year
14:02 12 Jan 17

Reply #617954

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Sad this season with the injuries to key players in every team.


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
14:40 12 Jan 17

Reply #617957

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

"Just Perth fans being Perth fans. If australia is blown up but wa survives the Armageddon do the cats win the title? Sad."

Cats beating NZ in a GF series is far from a given ;)


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
14:41 12 Jan 17

Reply #617958

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Yes 36ers shld win if those players don't play.

And 36ers will make sure of that by playing hard. That would consume too much and Cats would have an advantage on Sat.

All punters would benefit from both.


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paul
Earlier this year
15:10 12 Jan 17

Reply #617961

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Very good Luuuc!


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Thunder Jam
Earlier this year
16:44 12 Jan 17

Reply #617970

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adel v Melb yet we have to listen to Perth boneheads make it about them!

Who was it that asked "Why does everyone hate Perth".
This is why, you have been quiet all year,sooking about your team. NOW you win a couple of games and you go OTT as usual.

Adelaide by 5.


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
18:08 12 Jan 17

Reply #617974

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Newton's Third Law: to every statement there is an equal and opposite statement.

Perth by 5.


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
18:15 12 Jan 17

Reply #617975

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Roy Ward
.@MelbUnitedHQ say Ramone Moore hurt his calf v Hawks and won't return this season Terrible news, Ramone's a good guy, will be missed #NBL17


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Lost In The Sky
Earlier this year
18:32 12 Jan 17

Reply #617976

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Melbourne United [email protected]

***CLUB INJURY UPDATE

Blanchfield, Goulding and Moore to all miss tonight's game against Adelaide.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:35 12 Jan 17

Reply #617977

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Newton's 4th law. When a body is immersed in water the phone usually rings ;)


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:36 12 Jan 17

Reply #617978

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adel into $1.35.... No thanks


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:52 12 Jan 17

Reply #617980

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

36ers 1-10 paying $3, double winnings up to $50 in bonuses with sportsbet


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Big Ads
Earlier this year
18:59 12 Jan 17

Reply #617981

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Bennie Lewis in the house.


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MACDUB
Earlier this year
19:08 12 Jan 17

Reply #617983

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Odigie and Adnam starting. Let Odigie shoot all day!


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Spot up
Earlier this year
19:22 12 Jan 17

Reply #617987

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Flop. I'm shocked with that from Sobey.


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Wildcats80
Earlier this year
19:28 12 Jan 17

Reply #617988

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide in luck again playing an undermanned team, playing cats at home one game without Martin then another without Martin and knight, then Martin injured early in first game. You need luck during season but they've had their fair share.


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Tom
Earlier this year
19:30 12 Jan 17

Reply #617989

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide too casual Wake up. Play some D and you'll turn this around.


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MACDUB
Earlier this year
19:33 12 Jan 17

Reply #617990

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

My god Sobey is ******* good! ADL; wrap this bloke up long term. He is a legitimate Boomers contender IMO.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:36 12 Jan 17

Reply #617991

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

This wasn't expected by an injury ravaged Melbourne against a full complement of Sixers......

Commentators stop being pro Melbourne. No excuses made by Sixers last game with Gastro rife and the youngest least experience team out there... Just Goulding Goulding Goulding...

Should be more consideration and some Basketball IQ from them, and that goes towards the entire 6 teams not favoured by the commentary team.. Even Perth is complaining about it now they are not in the fold..

Put some perspective in to your commentating, if not go back to whatever sport it was you came from...

And while we are at it, did you ever think maybe Sobey doesn't flop all the time, but instead he is just bloody good at getting back and in position and that is part of his athletic talent...


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overloaded
Earlier this year
19:37 12 Jan 17

Reply #617993

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

This home cooking is a disgrace.
im going to watch the cricket


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overloaded
Earlier this year
19:37 12 Jan 17

Reply #617994

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Sobey you soft cock. Flop king


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:39 12 Jan 17

Reply #617995

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide have got a big challenge right now getting back those points.. 5 points you numnuts


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:44 12 Jan 17

Reply #617997

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

So Casper apparently doesn't flop .... Turning off the sound..


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:45 12 Jan 17

Reply #617998

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

3 players out, will have to buy in some more players with the bottomless money pit..


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:47 12 Jan 17

Reply #618000

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

overload, language please... yep Sobey is soft... you idiot..


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:47 12 Jan 17

Reply #618001

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I have Foxtel online. It will often freeze particularly during Sixers games. Netflix always works never freezing so I can't see it being an Internet issue. Does anyone else have this problem?


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
19:47 12 Jan 17

Reply #618002

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

A few threes starting to drop now.
Except for Adnam LOL


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:49 12 Jan 17

Reply #618003

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Likeing Randle off to remove the 1/1 and get back to team play...


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:51 12 Jan 17

Reply #618004

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

FLOP. Ware was in TF cylinder so its a foul... Poor Ware is now upset because he is double teamed and it is perfectly within the rules... Suck it up


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AC
Earlier this year
19:51 12 Jan 17

Reply #618005

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

36ers beating up on Ware for sure


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LV
Earlier this year
19:52 12 Jan 17

Reply #618006

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Great game so far by utd


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:52 12 Jan 17

Reply #618007

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Not sure why Doyle reached in for the ball there he had no chance of getting the ball. WTF... get them off air please...


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:53 12 Jan 17

Reply #618008

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Severe contact, is that all you've got... no bump on the other end...aargghhh... worst commentators ever...


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
19:56 12 Jan 17

Reply #618009

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

A pretty undisciplined last couple of minutes from the 36ers I thought. Should be ahead.


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Mike
Earlier this year
19:56 12 Jan 17

Reply #618010

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

'I have Foxtel online. It will often freeze particularly during Sixers games. Netflix always works never freezing so I can't see it being an Internet issue. Does anyone else have this problem?'

Just stream to laptop sorry.

Don't get any freezing but the resolutions cycles from good to horrible all game, every game.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:57 12 Jan 17

Reply #618011

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Thanks again commentators for reminding us yet again about the missing players and the Stunning performance up by 1 and court side commentator for telling Joey to get in there and tell them...


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
19:58 12 Jan 17

Reply #618012

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12



Adelaide played like shit.... Don't deserve to be up there. Randle obviously not doing much.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:59 12 Jan 17

Reply #618013

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

YEP this is about the Sixers not playing well, its in their heads and not the Stunning United team... Reality and perspective required but we need someone who knows what they are on about to have that happened and less worried about which footballer is in the crowd..



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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:01 12 Jan 17

Reply #618014

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide is playing far less their ability but to say they don't deserve one in first place is ridiculous unless you can show me a team that hasn't had a bad game either and has one of the lowest budgets and youngest and least experienced team you numnut.


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overloaded
Earlier this year
20:07 12 Jan 17

Reply #618015

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Whenever adnam gets minutes you know MU are f*cked


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
20:10 12 Jan 17

Reply #618016

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Yet he's got 10 more points than Randle atm


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
20:12 12 Jan 17

Reply #618017

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Tied game in the third quarter and Randle hasn't scored. Has to be a good sign.


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Mike
Earlier this year
20:14 12 Jan 17

Reply #618018

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

'Whenever adnam gets minutes you know MU are f*cked'

Dude can play a bit


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:24 12 Jan 17

Reply #618019

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

So Melbourne are undermanned with 3 imports (1 NBA big) Barlow - so inexperienced NOT, and Tomlinson who has loads of NBL experience V the Sixers now including an 18 year old.. So undermanned and they are so Stunning..


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HoldenV8
Earlier this year
20:26 12 Jan 17

Reply #618020

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Randle scores.....


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:27 12 Jan 17

Reply #618021

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

The intensity for Melbourne to make a huge upset here. down by 1.. again really... No Idea...


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LV
Earlier this year
20:28 12 Jan 17

Reply #618022

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

United down 3 starters plus Moore, facing some dumb-as-dog-sh!t refs, making it close

Props to United

How 36ers are on top, I do not know...


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:29 12 Jan 17

Reply #618023

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Here comes the makeup fouls


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:34 12 Jan 17

Reply #618025

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

3 starters down and a bench load of potential starters and loads more experience. Perspective and stop making excuses Melbourne. The Sixers not playing well,Randle having off night, nothing more too it.. if they lose, its their own fault and Joey knows it.. But beware Melbourne if you pump yourself up too much there are other teams buying in big too and with injuries as well..


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:35 12 Jan 17

Reply #618026

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

No calls for Johnson.. such bias refs. NOT


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:36 12 Jan 17

Reply #618027

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Look out.. Adnans been shot..


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
20:37 12 Jan 17

Reply #618028

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Haha ... looks like he's been watching some CJ footage during the week


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:40 12 Jan 17

Reply #618029

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

No mention of how good Sixers D was just then, just like the Brady Bunch... Marcia Marcia Melbourne.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:41 12 Jan 17

Reply #618030

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Barlow and Wesley saving the arse of Melbourne and the 3 Imports NOT


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
20:46 12 Jan 17

Reply #618031

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Randle put this one away in a hurry


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
20:53 12 Jan 17

Reply #618032

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Out of nowhere, Randle has 19 points. Can't keep him quiet for too long.


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Mike
Earlier this year
20:57 12 Jan 17

Reply #618033

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

'36ers 1-10 paying $3, double winnings up to $50 in bonuses with sportsbet'

Not sure wht the reasoning behind a small win to Adelaide was at home vs undermanned United


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AussePride
Earlier this year
21:02 12 Jan 17

Reply #618034

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide have kept me in business on sportsbet this year. Only team you can reliably pick to win.

I cannot pick the winner of any combination of teams not including the 36ers to save my life!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:04 12 Jan 17

Reply #618035

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

The Randle/Sobey backcourt is one of the most fun combos I can remember watching.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:05 12 Jan 17

Reply #618037

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adnam shouldn't even be there.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:05 12 Jan 17

Reply #618038

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

'36ers 1-10 paying $3, double winnings up to $50 in bonuses with sportsbet'

'Not sure wht the reasoning behind a small win to Adelaide was at home vs undermanned United'

I expected them to win but hoped Melb could keep it to single digits, was looking fairly good until that final quarter blow out.

Only went small on it and did it for fun just because of the special they had, I wouldn't normally bet on that market. So meh, not too fussed by it.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
21:12 12 Jan 17

Reply #618039

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

An undermanned United is still sitting on more talent experience and dollar value on court than teams like hawks brissy NZ and sixers. Tonight they had 3 IMPORTS ! One ex NBA with mountains of experience and bigger than any Sixers on court. Barlow, international player and again experience, Tai Wesley, NZ championship team, Tomlinson experience in the NBL, and a few others, then their is the missing which are the cream on top of a bloody big cake.. the big Win for Melbourne has an equal explanation, the Sixers had all their men but not at full steam having had gastro going through the team even having Sobey in hospital the night before with suspected appendicitis he was that bad, that later was diagnosed as Gastro which went through not only him, Randle on the night was sick, and many others but they had to play as they have even less than Melbourne had in reserves. So a full Melbourne really should have on paper made an even bigger smashing than they did... Tonight Sixers played a horrible first half, Joey kicked their arse in the rooms and the result was a resurgence with a young, cheap but athletic TEAM with a very unique coach. So stop with the excuses, it is what it is. Admire what they are doing with so little and be grateful for the excitement that it is bringing to the comp and putting the entire NBL on the radar of the NBA... And think about the issues Melbourne really has with such loaded talent despite missing their superstars, although I think thats offensive to those that I mentioned above who in their won right could make a great team, the issue is they are really missing the right coach...


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
21:30 12 Jan 17

Reply #618041

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Guys quick hop on Cairns against Melbourne...bloody good odds


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Hendo8888
Earlier this year
21:31 12 Jan 17

Reply #618042

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Moore didn't play, so they didn't have 3 IMPORTS.


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
21:37 12 Jan 17

Reply #618043

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Moore didn't play, so they didn't have 3 IMPORTS.


Ware, Boone & Wesley ;)

It's still a bit rich that Wesley doesn't count as an import though.


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LV
Earlier this year
21:56 12 Jan 17

Reply #618050

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

So Adelaide hit a few shots in the last against United's bench.

Still hoping United and its merry-go-round roster can sneak into 4th and play them in the semis, cos they match up against them well.


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KET
Earlier this year
21:58 12 Jan 17

Reply #618051

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

If Sobey doesn't get MIPOTY, then the awards are a rort.

The first three quarters was just rubbish by Adelaide, they were sluggish, lazy, missing shots and not bothering to be clean with the ball. Melbourne defended decently but it was Adelaide playing just plain bad.

Apart from Sobey and maybe Drmic, the rest played a shocker up until the 4th. We're a little lucky Randle's bad game came against an undermanned side.

Maybe a bit of rest is needed between now and V Perth, Adelaide have played a fair bit lately and trips to NZ and Perth probably don't help mixed in with some very hot weather of late.

I am surprised Adelaide made 100 points - that 35 point last quarter showed some real urgency and the flood gates opened. Randle finished with 23 in a game he only played one decent quarter. Unbelievable. Props to him for showing fight late.

Jacobsen needs to be a little bit more serviceable and tone down the amateur hour, while Ferguson needs to relax and just focus on keeping it simple: lock down on D, get yourself open for a shot and good strong passes. At the moment his defence is what you'd expect from an 18 year old American - terrible and low IQ. We just need to make sure it doesn't cost us come playoff time.

It was a very average victory but Adelaide got it done and the fourth quarter fight along with Sobey's brilliance just keeps providing confidence to the idea of Adelaide being a real player come playoffs time.


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Brunson
Earlier this year
22:07 12 Jan 17

Reply #618053

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Tomlinson once again showed that if he doesn't have 4 stars around him he is absolute rubbish. No wonder the coach put Adnam infront of him.

It is actually tough to play against a team that just lost 3 of there better players because

1. Sixers would have spent all week on strategy to stop the other 3 players.
2. Only just before the game did they know those players were out so they had little time to adjust.
3. United had nothing to lose so could play with confidence.
4. Sixers had everything to lose so didn't play with confidence.
5. When the level of competition drops so does the talented team.

A bad first half but then destroyed united. Other than winning Sixers learned that you put Sobey/Creek/Ferguson on Ware instead of Randle. Let Randle save his energy for offense. Even if Goulding is out there I think they should stay with that defense match up.

Awesome game by Sobey. He shows so much Heart which Gibson never had.

It was also great to see Ware talk so much shit and act like he is some sort of King in the first half and then do nothing in the second half whilst Randle got 19. Ware left the game injured near the end of the game but I think he will be fine for there next game. One bad thing to see was a member of the crowd grabbed him as he was leaving the stadium. Nothing much in it but still not acceptable.


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KET
Earlier this year
22:18 12 Jan 17

Reply #618055

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

How was he grabbed Brunson?

There always has to be an idiot doing something stupid, just leave players alone, the game is over.

I have to agree, Randle seems to be a but of a liability on defence, we can't task him with someone like Ware. Plus Randle does seem to get fatigued easily (i guess that's what happens when you put the jets on so often) so not much point wasting him in little minigames on defence against rival stars


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Brunson
Earlier this year
22:35 12 Jan 17

Reply #618062

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

KET it was behind the closest basket to Melbourne. He grabbed his jersey as he walked passed to hold him there and then had words to him. Ware then called for security to remove the guy. That sort of behaviour is obviously not acceptable.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
22:46 12 Jan 17

Reply #618066

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I'd be wary of the cairns game if you like a bet. Few extra days for Goulding to recover which would potentially change things.


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KET
Earlier this year
22:58 12 Jan 17

Reply #618069

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Absolutely Brunson, simply not on.

Assuming the 36ers took a gamble on paying Randle's contract hoping for increased revenue to cover it what is otherwise beyond their affordability, I wonder if it has done the trick.

7,106 vs Melbourne and over 8,000 vs Hawks, i'd be interested as to how our crowds are comparing to last season, and I guess more so paid tickets. I also wonder how 36ers are going sponsorship dollar wise in comparison to previous years. Hopefully there's enough of an increase in paid ticket sales and sponsorship that it covers for Randle's contract... I suspect by now the 36ers will know from a financial aspect, whether it has been successful, on par or backfired.


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
23:08 12 Jan 17

Reply #618071

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

The difficult part will be trying to keep both Randle and Sobey from being poached by richer clubs at the end of the season.


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sixtiesrockstar
Earlier this year
23:10 12 Jan 17

Reply #618072

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Ware showed a weakness tonight. Dropped his chin after being guarded tight. Didn't like it. Stopped working for the ball. Is great in the open court and in isolation, very smart at reading the play, but got sucked in tonight by the sixers manning him up. Welcome to the NBL. Other teams may notice this and try to exploit it.
The United players just whinge too much, and just seem to go on and on at the refs, especially Tomlinson, Wesley, Ware and DD and look more like individuals than a team.


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Double Clutch
Earlier this year
23:16 12 Jan 17

Reply #618073

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Saw the incident behind the basket. Ware wasn't grabbed, the guy was making the flopping motion having a bit of friendly banter, lost his balance and accidentally touched Ware. Ware felt it, turned around and thought he was grabbed.

Can understand Ware thinking there was more in it but it was pure unlucky accident. The guy in question is a season ticket holder and one of the nicest guys around, just pure accident.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
04:45 13 Jan 17

Reply #618080

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

36ers have Gone from worst percentage to the best percentage in the space of three games.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
06:24 13 Jan 17

Reply #618082

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Nathan Sobey
Daylight
Another ROY contender


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Big Country
Earlier this year
07:43 13 Jan 17

Reply #618083

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I know it was a full moon but there was a fair bit of trollop posted last night.


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XY
Earlier this year
09:07 13 Jan 17

Reply #618084

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Anon, Sobey is not a Rookie, but will get Most Improved. More importantly, he would have a good shot at MVP if he wasn't playing next to Randle (who should win MVP).


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Aaron
Earlier this year
09:12 13 Jan 17

Reply #618085

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

went to the game for a change. Fortunate as it meant i missed commentators, just had to put up with the "gold Class" bogan women behind me calling out stupidities and the occasional "MFR" - clearly no problem with their centerlink payments. Bit tough on the other families' preschoolers in my row.

Thought the refs were not actually all that bad, a few mystery guess decisions but no more than what would have been the average in the 80's-90s.

was very happy to see a distinct lack of talking to players by the refs during the game, even waving some away unless they were the designated court captain. Very good to see. Allows the ref to focus and the players to show some restraint.

Always liked the times where some of the old school would just listen , shake their head and when the player finished their rant , call the T. I loved the explanation, "halfway through we both knew he had gone too far, but i let him get his "T,s" worth and let him wind down before the inevitable."

The bench tech on MU may well have helped that.

I have a theory that the more strict mechanics of the 3 official system, and who is supposed to be looking where, has actually trained the players to do particular things in particular places as it means that the particular official is probably unsighted.

the "great" Brian G certainly instructed that in respect of defence and where/when to hold and grab.

A good exciting game, not impressed with MU coaching, seemed zero intentional use of Barlow. Wesley was clearly unfit and his offensive sets were just a NBA style isolation of a back down one-on-one.

Barlow seemed a little "over" the whole organisation to me.


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sixtiesrockstar
Earlier this year
10:29 13 Jan 17

Reply #618090

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I expect Perth to finish season strongly, and with 2 games in hand will hold 2nd place on the ladder in their own right by end of weekend. Come finals time sixers and Perth may be the only teams with more wins than losses. Quite remarkable. 11 wins from 12 games is even more remarkable in a season where all other teams are only at 50% win/loss record. Going to make an interesting finish to roller coaster season for Hawks, Kings and United . Ladder can be really deceiving with Taipans only having played 18, if they can snatch wins over United and Cats, all of sudden really creates pressure for those final spots. United and Kings really under the pump right now.


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Master Chief
Earlier this year
10:32 13 Jan 17

Reply #618091

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Played out like a typical danger game when the opposition is undermanned like that, but ultimately getting the job done.

@KET, I'm not saying you were necessarily bagging Jacobsen, but i think some people who have questioned his ability so far have failed to notice just how serviceable he has been.


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Master Chief
Earlier this year
10:34 13 Jan 17

Reply #618092

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

How long is Sobey signed for under his current contract? The club should lock him up long term before he comes a free agent.


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Troppo45
Earlier this year
11:08 13 Jan 17

Reply #618094

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Can someone impartial please give their opinions on the charges called in favour of Ware (randle and ferguson) and Sobey (Adnam and Odigie) in the Adel vs Melb game last night?
Just interested


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skip
Earlier this year
11:27 13 Jan 17

Reply #618096

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Master Chief - He signed for 3 years. so one more season still.

Joey certainly saw his potential! http://www.nbl.com.au/featured-news/the-rise-and-rise-of-nathan-sobey/


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Chairman Of The Bored
Earlier this year
11:36 13 Jan 17

Reply #618097

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Ugly game for most of it, but an impressive last 12 or so minutes to break the resistance and really keep the foot down. Randle is a star, but even so that last quarter was amazing given he'd been chucking bricks all game. Never gives up. Sobey is just ridiculous.


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
11:37 13 Jan 17

Reply #618098

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

skip,

The issue is though some have said on here that 3rd year is a player option which if so means he can opt out and become a free agent at the end of this season.


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sixtiesrockstar
Earlier this year
12:05 13 Jan 17

Reply #618101

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

@Troppo45 The Randle/Ware charge was right call. Randle ran straight over him. Not sure about the Adnam/Sobey one as that just seemed as if both players just went to the same spot and Sobey went down. Very easily could have been Adnam on the ground.
Ware took a dive against Ferguson. Ware was in good spot to hold his ground and defend against a lightweight posting up Ferguson and got rewarded for flopping. Ferguson made a bit of motion but not enough contact to send flying like that. Most players are strong enough to stay upright in post up situations, unless it's Knight defending Randle and refs should know this.
If players were to get $100 for every post up defence where they don't go down, they would stay upright every time.
Not sure if impartial as a Sixer supporter but that is my take.


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
12:09 13 Jan 17

Reply #618103

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Look guys. Adelaide were always going to punish Melbourne... They took their time.

I thought Adelaide were shit for three quarters but soon as they stepped up, everything
was over quickly. Melbourne are not good enough with the three players down.

And if Goulding doesn't play again Cairns, Melbourne will lose again.


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sixtiesrockstar
Earlier this year
12:15 13 Jan 17

Reply #618104

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Can't see Sobey in the NBL next season. He is arguably the best in the league at the moment with his stocks soaring. His ball control and change of direction is something else. Can play above the rim and then last night was 5/5 from deep. Not turning the ball over and his defence is good.
His crossover on Prather other week had Prather guessing and left watching as Sobey blows by, Did the same to Ware last night and other United defenders. Awesome athleticism, but I think it is his ball control in traffic which is a huge assett for him.


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hoopie
Earlier this year
13:27 13 Jan 17

Reply #618114

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Can someone please clarify something I saw in the game?

Ferguson ran into Wesley and hit the deck, hard. Wesley had turned his body so that Ferguson ran into his shoulder rather than his chest.
I seem to remember other screeners being penalised earlier in the season for turning their bodies like that. From memory, the blocking rule is mainly concerned about the chest.

Was it genuinely a clean screen or was Wesley lucky to get away with it?


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Isaac
Earlier this year
13:53 13 Jan 17

Reply #618118

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Adelaide should lock in Sobey with Euro out if need be - can't let someone swoop in from interstate.


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snooch
Earlier this year
13:54 13 Jan 17

Reply #618119

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Pretty sure Wesley was called for an offensive foul on that play hoopie


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LV
Earlier this year
14:17 13 Jan 17

Reply #618127

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Wesley was called for a foul.

It was a slight lean in with the shoulder. I would've called a foul but there wasn't much in it.

Refs did owe him one though, on the previous play Wesley got called for a foul when he was standing in position with his arms straight up and one of the Adelaide bigs forced a clumsy shot over him...but there was somehow a foul on Wesley.

But nope, they didn't give him one back...

Meanwhile, has Redhage's 10 year reign as the most impressive flopper in the NBL come to an end? Sobey drew 2 fouls last night. I thought after the first one the refs surely wouldn't get sucked in again...but no, they did!


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Master Chief
Earlier this year
14:18 13 Jan 17

Reply #618130

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

The club should be working now to make sure that he's happy next year with a better deal or coming up with a multiple year deal.

Often in these situations where a little known player has flourished in a new team, loyalty and fairness will play a part in striking a good deal. He can't play for another NBL team though.


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LV
Earlier this year
14:22 13 Jan 17

Reply #618131

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Actually, after Sobey got away with both of those flops and then got away with grabbing Casper's arm before the refs called Casper for a travel...I was starting to wonder if the refs had a bit of a man crush on Sobes.... I understand being impressed by his athleticism and dunking prowess, but come on, ref objectively next time fellas.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:38 13 Jan 17

Reply #618139

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Goulding overtook Redhage as the biggest flopper as soon as he came back from europe but Sobey is making a big case for it now.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
15:45 13 Jan 17

Reply #618140

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Meanwhile, has Redhage's 10 year reign as the most impressive flopper in the NBL come to an end? Sobey drew 2 fouls last night. I thought after the first one the refs surely wouldn't get sucked in again...but no, they did!


It was strange that the commentators were talking about him being in green and gold at the time, I thought that if he can't make the basketball team he could make the diving team.


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Murray Magpie
Earlier this year
16:29 13 Jan 17

Reply #618149

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Haha some butthurt united fans ^^^^^

Sobey goes for 32 8 6 in a 40 minute game and the wolves come out.

Adnam was a charge all day every day, same as Randle trying to create space and got called for a charge on Ware.

Just smile and watch the 36ers take the title losers


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Camel 31
Earlier this year
16:33 13 Jan 17

Reply #618151

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

good numbers by sobey , and randle also 19 8 2
(ware the worst shooter out there, at this game)


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
16:46 13 Jan 17

Reply #618157

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Murray Mapgie, whether it's United or Perth that gets Adelaide, that comment will come back to haunt you

I'd much rather Adelaide win than Perth, but it's not gonna happen.


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LV
Earlier this year
16:48 13 Jan 17

Reply #618158

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

^ me

If you rate Adelaide's title chances then I'm guessing you weren't watching the first 3 quarters last night


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Murray Magpie
Earlier this year
17:50 13 Jan 17

Reply #618179

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I was at the game and yes, I do rate Adelaide's title chances. Just my opinion, don't want to get anyone upset.
Every team has bad nights. I've seen some shocking games from united, cats and kings. Adelaide have won 11 out of 12 games, have the best 1 - 2 punch in Randle and Sobey, best captain in Creek, obvious close knit team ( with no replacement imports ) great coach and the best fans in the country and to top it all off we play the most exciting brand of basketball in the league.

I think we'll be alright ;)

Aaaaaaight!


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KET
Earlier this year
18:15 13 Jan 17

Reply #618185

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

LV put the Melbourne bias aside for a second -

36ers are 1st position with 14-7 with form of 12 wins out of their last 13 matches, and a strong road record.

The 36ers have the likely MVP in Randle and along with Sobey consistently producing like a star and there is DJ too.

Best position in the league? Check.
One of the best players in the league? Check.
Best form? Check.

You don't rate that as a "title chance"?

The first three quarters aren't indicative of the 36ers in the same way Melbourne getting hammered by 27 points isn't indicative of what to expect from United.

Randle didn't score until a few minutes to go in the third quarter. Adelaide at one point was shooting around 28%. Neither of those things are even close to what we've seen from the 36ers in the last 3 months, why is it suddenly an indicator of anything?

Clearly a sluggish three quarters from a team who didn't have their heart in it until shit got real in the last quarter... and then they got it done easy.

--
About this flopping business...

Sobey did a little balancing gesture as he fell back making one of his charges look like he was extenuating the contact. You can be annoyed at him doing that, but what's the point?

There was clear contact while Sobey was in position and it was still clearly a charge.

Wesley was also a clear charging foul dropping his shoulder - you can't do that, I really don't know why so many on here think you can.

It did feel like Melbourne couldn't get a trick in terms of the refs and I do think Adelaide got a little bit of home cooking.


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
18:25 13 Jan 17

Reply #618192

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

There's no team that hasn't had some poor patches this season, but you can't write off all 8 teams are title contenders.
Adelaide had 3 mediocre quarters and still won by 27. For them that's a plus not a minus (provided it doesn't go to their heads)

There are still chances for other teams too. It doesn't take much to run into some form, and there's still a month to go before the real stuff starts.


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KET
Earlier this year
18:52 13 Jan 17

Reply #618210

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I'd give all top 4 sides as title chances, it's so hard to split them


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Thunder Jam
Earlier this year
20:41 13 Jan 17

Reply #618264

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

Sober is the golden child with the refs,been going on all season.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:54 17 Jan 17

Reply #619110

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I love (and hate) how a Sobey flop from this game made it into the NBL's top 10 plays of the week...lol


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paul
Earlier this year
12:59 17 Jan 17

Reply #619112

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

I laughed at that. There were nine really good plays and then that!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:05 17 Jan 17

Reply #619117

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

It sort of shows how bad the umpiring is and how much the league doesn't care imo. I mean, if a call like that which is clearly wrong is made you would want to sweep it under the rug a bit so people forget, not praise it stick it in as number 7 in a top 10 plays of the week.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:06 17 Jan 17

Reply #619119

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

play number 8* sorry


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koberulz
Earlier this year
16:48 17 Jan 17

Reply #619171

re: 36ers vs United, Jan 12

They had a clear goaltend in the top ten earlier in the year.


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