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LV
Earlier this year

#40699

Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Beware the wounded Bull. (ets).

The Bullets are fighting for pride, after copping a 33 point caning against arch online rival Joey "Social Media" Wright and the 36ers. Beal went scoreless and hasn't done a thing lately...which means he’s due to drop 30 against United.

Injuries or not, if Craig and Beal show up on the same night this team can still beat anyone.

I’d rather United lose, which will keep us in 4th spot and in the running for a semi final matchup with the 36ers ;-). Winning puts us in too much danger of challenging for 3rd or even 2nd position...

So, I’ll tip Brisbane by 3.

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Em
Earlier this year
13:07 20 Jan 17

Reply #619653

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

You are a United fan - and hope they lose??

I definitely hope THEY WIN - they are in a tight battle just to get to play finals and can't afford to drop this one.

They only have 2 home games left - vs Hawks & Wildcats

And away games to Bullets, Kings, Perth and an in-form Breakers.

I don't think you should be thinking about finals position just yet - they are not even assured of making the finals

GO UNITED !!


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
13:13 20 Jan 17

Reply #619656

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Surely United win this easily.

Melb by 12


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Brunson
Earlier this year
17:17 20 Jan 17

Reply #619716

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

If Bullets stick around for 3 quarters and then United beat them by only 27 then I think United are no chance to win the title this season ;)


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Train
Earlier this year
17:55 20 Jan 17

Reply #619720

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Bullets need Dolla Beal to turn up and hit 40!


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
01:03 21 Jan 17

Reply #619919

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan


Let's be realistic. Bullets need to rebuild next year.....this year is a learning one.

United to win by 8+.


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Tom
Earlier this year
10:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #619967

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Brisbane have to play perfect game, United have to be awful just for Brisbane to have any chance. Not going to happen.
Kickert, Beal and Craig have to get 20 each. Kickert will get his, Craig 50/50 but Beal is a long shot.
It is getting to the embarrassing stage for Brisbane.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
11:01 21 Jan 17

Reply #619969

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melb to lose and not even make the playoffs LV.

Listen to you hoping for a Sixers semi. You're delirious if you think united can match it with the top 3 teams. Worry about getting to the playoffs before talking which opponent you'd like to play.


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ME
Earlier this year
11:23 21 Jan 17

Reply #619972

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Bullets were always going to be terrible and I had them written off from the start of the season. They picked the wrong balance, too many forwards and completely unreliable guards. I hope they get spanked in every single game from now on as a lesson not to put every single mobile powerforward in the league on one team and expect that somehow that would fill all of the other gaps left wanting.


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Tom
Earlier this year
12:22 21 Jan 17

Reply #619985

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Make that Kickert, Kendle and Craig have to get 20 each for Brisbane to be in the game.
Maybe possible with Beal not required.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
12:35 21 Jan 17

Reply #619993

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbs price is dropping with the bookies. Into $1.50 at WillHill, can still get $1.65 at sportsbet if interested before it goes down.


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
13:31 21 Jan 17

Reply #620002

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I had mine on at $1.60


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:00 21 Jan 17

Reply #620008

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I took United -2.5 now line out to 4.5 but surely they winnby double digits. Too much offense for what Brisbane right now can handle. Again feel for the bullets but got to take $ advantage of the wounded beast.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
14:15 21 Jan 17

Reply #620010

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I got on United @1.65, also have them as the last leg in a couple of multis. In for a big pay day if they win this one


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Kyrie2Nation
Earlier this year
16:37 21 Jan 17

Reply #620042

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Brisbane's bench makes me want to vomit. One of the worst I have ever seen.


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
17:22 21 Jan 17

Reply #620048

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Kendle looks alright with the opportunity to start.


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Brunson
Earlier this year
17:26 21 Jan 17

Reply #620050

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Bullets playing like they have nothing to lose and putting up a great fight so far. They look better without Beal


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:27 21 Jan 17

Reply #620052

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Adelaide lost to Hawks by 34 on a Friday night
On Sunday beat Melbourne by 8

Adelaide defeated Hawks by 32 on a Thursday night
On Saturday Hawks defeated Melbourne by 18.

Could Brisbane repeat the dose there going pretty good so far.


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MACDUB
Earlier this year
17:35 21 Jan 17

Reply #620053

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Kendle looks miles better than Bruce.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:36 21 Jan 17

Reply #620054

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melb trying to live and die by the 3 too much


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Mike
Earlier this year
17:39 21 Jan 17

Reply #620055

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

'Melb trying to live and die by the 3 too much'

WHAT YEAR IS IT.gif


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:47 21 Jan 17

Reply #620056

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

They made something like 4/5 threes to start the game, now 5/21 overall for the game


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620057

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Goulding shot selection and defense costing Melbourne


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MACDUB
Earlier this year
17:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620058

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

As skilful as Goulding is, he takes some rubbish shots. It's a difficult one because whilst he can make those ones, they're still really poor shots. (I.e really deep 3's; fade away J's).

I still reckon he could expand on/better utilise his mid-range game..especially considering he can get to that midrange area comfortably with his handle.


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Kyrie2Nation
Earlier this year
17:55 21 Jan 17

Reply #620059

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Wow there goes my United 11+ bet. What a joke. Garbage performance so far from United.


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Brunson
Earlier this year
17:59 21 Jan 17

Reply #620061

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Kyrie2Nation you said in another thread that you thought Brisbane would be worse without Beal but Beal is dead wood.

It is a learning lesson for a lot of people. As I've said before it can be extremely difficult playing against a team that has lost players.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:00 21 Jan 17

Reply #620062

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I think Melbourne can still win this easily, they just need to pick better shots like they did at the start


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:11 21 Jan 17

Reply #620064

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbourne ain't winning this one. Not hungry enough


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Kyrie2Nation
Earlier this year
18:13 21 Jan 17

Reply #620065

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

@Brunson don't remember saying anything like that?


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Brunson
Earlier this year
18:16 21 Jan 17

Reply #620066

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

@Kyrie2Nation "My Multi with United 11+ likes this." Regarding the sacking of Beal. I am going to lose money on this game also but was just making the point that Brisbane made a smart move.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:17 21 Jan 17

Reply #620067

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Goulding surely can create better shots than what he is settling for


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AC
Earlier this year
18:28 21 Jan 17

Reply #620069

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

WHAT is DD thinking having Tomlinson out there to close the 3rd. Absolute trash.


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
18:37 21 Jan 17

Reply #620070

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Kendle is a gun


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AC
Earlier this year
18:45 21 Jan 17

Reply #620076

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Kromah has so far been woeful for Melbourne in his first two outings.


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
18:47 21 Jan 17

Reply #620077

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

solid close out by the Bullets


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:49 21 Jan 17

Reply #620079

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbourne kept getting it to around that 6-7 point margin with possession and a chance to turn it into only a 4-5 point lead, but every single time chucked up a bad shot then Brisbane scored an easy basket down the other end to bring it back to 8-9. Happened so many times in that final quarter.


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DaHuzyBru
Earlier this year
18:49 21 Jan 17

Reply #620080

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

and... ol' mate Wang Tong makes his NBL debut :P


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Luuuc
Earlier this year
18:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620081

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Yes!!


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Zodiac
Earlier this year
18:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620082

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbourne now the team to beat.


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
18:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620083

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Just shows Goulding is not a winner if h is shooting is bad.

Nope Melbourne does not figure in the finals.


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Kingpodge
Earlier this year
18:50 21 Jan 17

Reply #620084

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

what.. the... f..


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:52 21 Jan 17

Reply #620086

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbourne looked like they were going to have a big win early on with good ball movement and shot selection. I don't understand Goulding..when he is aggressive he gets to the line and finds teammates. But instead settles for holding the ball and jab faking before launching up contested deep threes. Taking the air out of the ball. At least ware realised his shot wasn't falling and started to attack.


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AngusH
Earlier this year
18:55 21 Jan 17

Reply #620087

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Today's game just makes me scratch my head even more as to why the Kings didn't go after Kendle... does not look out of place at all at this level.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
18:55 21 Jan 17

Reply #620088

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

All United imports are useless except for Casper, might be time to give DD the shove and get someone into see if they can save the season. For all his haters I'd get Shane heal.


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LV
Earlier this year
18:55 21 Jan 17

Reply #620089

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Not a totally unexpected result. A Lemanis coached team was unlikely to be blown out again off the back of a 33 point loss, regardless of who was suiting up. I'd say Beal's departure galvanised them too.

The Bullets D was well planned and well executed, United's shots weren't falling, and Brisbane's extra little bit of desperation helped too.

This season continues to get more intriguing.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
19:02 21 Jan 17

Reply #620091

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Melbourne are a joke. Waste of all that talent. If Sydney and Perth get their act together they will probably miss the playoffs.


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Gamephasis
Earlier this year
19:53 21 Jan 17

Reply #620121

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

If Melbourne had a coach that they believed in this would have been a different story. I'm not sure I've ever seen a coach more tuned out than Demopolous.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:18 21 Jan 17

Reply #620130

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Gee whiz, massive result. Did Melbourne let their guard down against a Bullets team already looking to next year?


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
20:18 21 Jan 17

Reply #620131

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

A very good TEAM like the Taipans should make it because you know they will play the right way.Hopefully the Melbourne individuals miss the playoffs


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
20:38 21 Jan 17

Reply #620148

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Any team that lives by 3-pt strategy will die by that strategy. Kings and United both live by that strategy.

Wildcats have that tendency.


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Kyrie2Nation
Earlier this year
22:08 21 Jan 17

Reply #620176

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Goulding was horrendous. Love seeing him throw brick after brick.


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Kyrie2Nation
Earlier this year
22:10 21 Jan 17

Reply #620178

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

In saying that he was United's second best player on the night. Daylight after Ware mind you but the rest of the United team was crap all game.


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koberulz
Earlier this year
22:48 21 Jan 17

Reply #620190

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Any team that lives by 3-pt strategy will die by that strategy. Kings and United both live by that strategy.

Wildcats have that tendency.
When have the Wildcats ever lived by the three?


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MACDUB
Earlier this year
23:53 21 Jan 17

Reply #620200

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I don't put it all down to DD.

MU simply don't have enough guys who genuinely want to win. There is some selfish players in that team.

Goulding reminds of of the Carmelo of the league.

As much as I hate/d the likes of Hire, Wagstaff, Knight (though not as much) and Robbins (when he was there), those guys are selfless and genuinely want to win. Its no coincidence thatbl Perth have been so succesful with those types of players.

On another note - Will Te Rangi even be in the league next year? (Did he sign a 2year deal?). NZ won't want/don"t need him back with Avercrombie, Delaney and Rusbatch. Dude has literally forgotten how to basketball.


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ROFLcopter
Earlier this year
00:30 22 Jan 17

Reply #620208

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

United are pure trash.

Appear to lack heart and soul.
DD out!! :P


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Tornado
Earlier this year
01:13 22 Jan 17

Reply #620212

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Macdub...your comparison of Goulding is spot on imo. As for Te Rangi...I never thought he was much chop and it doesn't surprise me that he has faded when the league has improved.


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Tom
Earlier this year
06:23 22 Jan 17

Reply #620221

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Amazing game. Right from the tip off the game plans were set. Brisbane relied on defense esp focusing on Ware, Goulding (as best they could), and their two stars Kickert (always high %) and Craig (getting taking and making good shots) offensively. Melbourne were sloppy out of the gate and relied on the brilliance of individual talents Ware (could not do any more) and Goulding (degree of amazement and wonder, but as stated unorthodox). The usually reliable Wesley's array of low post plays dried up and Melbourne could not seem to get anyone else involved offensively.
Transition points went to Brisbane because they played better D and created more opportunities. The better team on the night was Brisbane.
Contrast that with Adelaide and Sydney. Same scenario. BUT ADELAIDE came from behind, played the D, got everyone involved offensively, etc. etc.
They left their Beal decision till it was too late to help with this season.


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paul
Earlier this year
06:38 22 Jan 17

Reply #620222

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

"Macdub...your comparison of Goulding is spot on imo. As for Te Rangi...I never thought he was much chop and it doesn't surprise me that he has faded when the league has improved."

This year is probably the best he has played in the NBL since his debut season, not that there's a lot of stiff competition there.

I imagine Lemanis will have him back given some of the praise he's had for him post-game at times throughout the season and the fact he's one of the youngest players in the league.


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
10:34 22 Jan 17

Reply #620241

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Te Rangi just needs to play with more confidence. It appears he has the physical tools to be a rotation player in this league.


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BVL
Earlier this year
12:14 22 Jan 17

Reply #620256

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Is it just me or was Goulding's body language towards DD questionable.

At the 3 min mark time out DD called for a big pick and roll for Casper. Goulding got up mid sentence and went to walk off and DD had to pull him back into the huddle.

Not great from your leader. If your having a poor shooting game try and be an influence elsewhere, and if your not hitting shots dont expect every play call down the line.

On another note, I just wonder at this level whether a jump shooting team can go deep into the finals? MU relies on getting hot to win. The only team in the world that can do it is the GSW and even they may not win the championship over Cleveland.

Just hope Anderson can give them something inside if/ when he comes back.


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hoopie
Earlier this year
12:29 22 Jan 17

Reply #620263

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

DD's body language tells me that Goulding controls their relationship.
I've never yet seen DD taking the tough line with CG43, even when he's being a prat or having brain explosions.


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Brunson
Earlier this year
12:36 22 Jan 17

Reply #620265

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Goulding still up at 12:30-1AM watching the Perth game and Twittering afterwards showed his focus for the Brisbane game.

So LV a game like that is expected when United are playing an under manned team but when the Sixers play an under manned team it shows they are no chance for the title..... Hopefully you have now learned playing a team like that bring's unique challenges and under performing is not a surprise.

Also Kromah looks bad. Moore was excellent at coming in and being effective, United don't have that anymore. Barlow's athleticism looks gone. Andersen will be their last chance.


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Bill on the ball
Earlier this year
15:47 22 Jan 17

Reply #620289

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

For the money they pay Goulding, they are not getting the returns. Goulding doesn't have the class of a Kirk Penny.

When a player hogs the ball with useless three's, he takes up opportunities of the team. And the coach can't do too much to contain them as they are meant to shoot the daylights out.

A team player like Mitch Creek, who is more of a team player and shoots responsibly is better for team cohesion.

Cotton and Martin would be good too. Randle doesn't spray as much this year..he is doing the right thing by setting up the team first and then only starts his three's play at the end. In other words, he gives the team a go first before he goes 'crazy' for his own glory. That should be the way. Cotton does that well too. Dillard also practices that.


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Statman
Earlier this year
16:00 22 Jan 17

Reply #620297

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

Goulding shot at a better clip than Ware but it's all his fault for shooting crap shots?

Pretty harsh IMO considering he is still clearly hampered both by his ankle issue and having a coach who has no idea.

Basketball is a pretty simple game, move the ball through hands and exploit where the defence isn't. Get the ball inside and if the defence collapses then things open up for outside shots and vice versa. A playbook totally reliant on 'get it to Chris or Casper and let them create' doesn't bode well for long term success


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Anonymous
Earlier this year
17:13 22 Jan 17

Reply #620343

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

^difference is goulding took dumb shots and not within the flow of the game. One possession he lost his dribble got it back and continued to dribble around until he shot an off balance defended three. Not even one pass.


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BVL
Earlier this year
17:32 22 Jan 17

Reply #620351

re: Bullets vs United, Saturday 21 Jan

I feel Anderson coming back in will make a massive difference. It will then allow them to go inside out. Right now Wesley is there only low post option, when hes not firing you just have to defend the perimeter.

Maybe moving Barlow and/ or Blanchfield next year to get a 3 that can play inside out (Mitch Creek? as Bill said).

I like Todd's game but it doesn't help when he just stands in the corner on offence.

Will be a tough one in Perth next week, we don't seem to be travelling well ATM. MU need a big scalp if if they are serious about finals...


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