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Anonymous
Two months ago

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Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Previous meetings this season

R14;36ers 117 to Hawks 85
R6; 36ers 74 to Hawks 85
R1; Hawks 122 to Hawks 88

Hawks lead series 2-1 with a 13 point differential

FYI; if the 36ers win this game there would of beaten every opposition team on there home court this season.

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Luuuc
Two months ago
21:40 27 Jan 17

Reply #621178

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Meanwhile the Hawks will be the only team to lose to themselves by 30+
:p


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Dazz
Two months ago
22:38 27 Jan 17

Reply #621186

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

The split doesn't matter, as nobody can catch Adelaide.
It will be interesting to watch their approach and mental discipline in this game.
This is a dead-rubber for Adelaide, but the Hawks are fighting for their finals-hopes. They have already lost the splits to Perth, Cairns, and Sydney. So their best hope is to try and finish clear.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
10:06 28 Jan 17

Reply #621205

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

My fort reaction the adelaide being in control of this season was that guys would be strategically rested the run home. But having spoken to a few people with intel as to how this team operates, I've been assured adelaide are just as likely under weight to go full steam ahead and try and really put the nail in. I'd so, well Hawks won't be able to match the 36ers. The hong drifted in and out of the cairns game. Adelaide don't drift unless it's a blowout. 6ers by 10


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Air Delay
Two months ago
12:09 28 Jan 17

Reply #621210

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

My logic tells me 6ers way too strong,
My memory reminds me that White & Norton can keep it out of Randle's handles,
My hope leads me to pray the 6ers have a little lapse & the Hawkies run away with a 10+ W!

If the Hawkies are knocking down their 3s, as opposed to the 25%ish rate they've been shooting 'em at lately, they'll win.


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Luuuc
Two months ago
12:22 28 Jan 17

Reply #621212

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

This might reveal a little bit about the 36ers mindset.
It would be quite understandable for the players to (involuntarily) relax mentally now that top spot is secured.


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Jack Toft
Two months ago
12:58 28 Jan 17

Reply #621214

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

The Illawarra Mercury have an article about Oscar's 200th game for the Hawks.

http://www.illawarramercury.com.au/story/4427113/oscar-formans-career-of-long-shots/?cs=302

#happyozzieday


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Beantown
Two months ago
14:34 28 Jan 17

Reply #621218

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I hope the Sixers don't relax. The Hawks have given them trouble in the past, so I think its important to get the win psychologically. It might be a different story if they were a veteran team with proven playoff success, but this Sixers team has young legs. They need to go hard, continue to build their confidence and destroy that of their opponents.


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Camel 31
Two months ago
15:57 28 Jan 17

Reply #621225

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

oscars 200th and ken cole now lives in adelaide , i heard on radio this a.m


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Dazz
Two months ago
16:21 28 Jan 17

Reply #621228

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

It will be interesting. 6's players would need to be incredibly disciplined to not relax a little. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. All the pressure is on the Hawks, the 6's can just play their natural game.

But yes, could reveal Joey's approach. Randle and Johnson are bother averaging over 30 minutes. Be interesting see if over the next few games he's dials that down a little.


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Master Chief
Two months ago
17:00 28 Jan 17

Reply #621230

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I think there's a difference between being complacent and being relaxed though. Adelaide can afford to be relaxed but it doesn't mean they won't play hard or with any purpose. If i was the opposition i would be worried about playing a relaxed Adelaide team that still wants to fine tune and assert themselves completely before the playoffs.

If i was Joey, i would be reminding Randle about the MVP race. He could finish off in style with a bit of relief off his shoulders.

Also, i remember how Joey made sure the Bullets didn't take their foot of the pedal in that championship year so i can't see him relaxing in that sense either. He'll make sure they're playing hard.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
19:05 28 Jan 17

Reply #621242

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Hawks biggest issue in this one, is that they destroyed and embarased adelaide at the seasons beginning. 36ers playing with house money tonight will not take this lightly, but if anything seek revenge whilst playing nice and loose. If the Hawks shoot well, all that will mean is they they're in the game.


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Uncle Phil
Two months ago
19:15 28 Jan 17

Reply #621243

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

In the first 5 mins Ogilvy takes out hodgsens legs then Kevin white clotheslines DJ, do they not think they can beat the 6ers fully fit? Hopefully the dirty plays don't continue to be a feature


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HoldenV8
Two months ago
19:39 28 Jan 17

Reply #621245

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Adelaide are having trouble finding a bucket, but we're currently leading 31-29.

Joey Wright already with a tech foul for dropping the F-bomb to the refs.


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HoldenV8
Two months ago
19:41 28 Jan 17

Reply #621246

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

The Hawks seem to have a "if you can't beat them, hurt them physically" mentality in this game so far.


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Uncle Phil
Two months ago
19:42 28 Jan 17

Reply #621247

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Kevin white with another dirty play in Jacobsen, looks like he is the designated hit man. What an absolute scrub.


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Ras Posse
Two months ago
19:47 28 Jan 17

Reply #621248

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Fark off Uncle Phil !


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cats 4 life
Two months ago
19:59 28 Jan 17

Reply #621249

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Thought it was only Perth and redhage and wagstaff? Not just Perth, wait till finals start! Wwe


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AussiePride
Two months ago
20:37 28 Jan 17

Reply #621251

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

BEDLAM!!


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:49 28 Jan 17

Reply #621252

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Sixers and the daylight...


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cats 4 life
Two months ago
20:51 28 Jan 17

Reply #621254

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Gets dark quick to


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Anonymous
Two months ago
20:54 28 Jan 17

Reply #621255

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Randle who?


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Caps Fan
Two months ago
21:02 28 Jan 17

Reply #621258

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

can the hawks play better than this ?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:05 28 Jan 17

Reply #621259

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

When does 2 hands on a player ever be not unsportsmanlike?


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Very Old
Two months ago
21:08 28 Jan 17

Reply #621260

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

and who of this ref crew will be in the GF series ?


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LV
Two months ago
21:09 28 Jan 17

Reply #621262

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

No unsportsmanlike on Drmic?


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HoldenV8
Two months ago
21:09 28 Jan 17

Reply #621263

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Good win to the Hawks. They played hard, tough basketball and deserved to win.

No complaints from this 36ers fan. We just didn't have it tonight.


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Very Old
Two months ago
21:11 28 Jan 17

Reply #621264

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Agreed, the refs were out of their depth, but even handed, would be an interesting 5 games series if they meet in the GF.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:13 28 Jan 17

Reply #621265

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Cough cough. 9 point lead coughed up. Early exit for the Sixers me thinks.


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joshuapending
Two months ago
21:17 28 Jan 17

Reply #621266

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

considering we got behind, you could not ask for a better shot than what Teys got at the end. A few costly turnover were brutal. Get ready for the next game.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:20 28 Jan 17

Reply #621267

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Cough cough Hawks have given up good leads at least twice at home.

Lead NZL by 13 in the second lost by 9 and did score the last 8 points of the game.

Lead Perth by 4 points late in the 4th and lost by 9 .


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:27 28 Jan 17

Reply #621269

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

"And who of this ref crew will be in the GF series?
None. All should be suspended for a month at minimum.
NOt dropped.


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Very Old
Two months ago
21:34 28 Jan 17

Reply #621270

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

who were the crew ? I'm interested particularly in the one who (correctly) "T"ed Joey.


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Manu Fieldel
Two months ago
21:36 28 Jan 17

Reply #621273

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Have the Sixers found their kryptonite?

3-1 series win for Illawarra.


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LV
Two months ago
21:36 28 Jan 17

Reply #621274

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Adelaide didn't look like they wanted it. How did Rotnei Clarke give up a head start and out hustle two 36ers for a loose ball?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:40 28 Jan 17

Reply #621278

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Interesting Very Old, there is nothing on the NBL website about who the incompetent refs were.


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Jack Toft
Two months ago
21:43 28 Jan 17

Reply #621279

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

The Kevin White elbow to the guts of EJ was pretty average.


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Shano76
Two months ago
21:48 28 Jan 17

Reply #621281

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Camel you say the great man King Cole has moved back?


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:49 28 Jan 17

Reply #621282

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Manu Fieldel the Hawks are not a bogey team

A 32 point win at home and a 3 point loss away against the Hawks in the middle of a run of 14 wins from the last 16 games hardly constitute a bogey team

Before you bring the up the first 2 meetings the team was completely different in the first 9 games.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:53 28 Jan 17

Reply #621284

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Good win for the Hawks but it will mean nothing because the Taipans are next on the schedule who have the wood on the Hawks and will make it a series sweep on Friday in the Sandpit.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:53 28 Jan 17

Reply #621285

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I have seen nothing on Ken's FB page to indicate that


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Camel 31
Two months ago
21:54 28 Jan 17

Reply #621286

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

YES .. on radio 5aa. graham cornes , ken cole on his way.......

to live in adelaide , now , after living in usa..


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Anonymous
Two months ago
21:57 28 Jan 17

Reply #621290

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Great to see the great man return. Not sure if medically that's a wise decision.


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Manu Fieldel
Two months ago
21:59 28 Jan 17

Reply #621293

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Good point there Manu.

What are Randle's averages for points and field goal percentage over the four games v Illawarra this season?


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Shano76
Two months ago
22:07 28 Jan 17

Reply #621304

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Thanks Camel. That would be great if true. What he and the 85/86 team did for vasketball was sensational. They were Rockstars. Cheers


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Camel 31
Two months ago
22:19 28 Jan 17

Reply #621308

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Cornesy and Cole are mates...

36ers havent won coach of the year since cole 86
looks like hell give it to joey...


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Anonymous
Two months ago
22:21 28 Jan 17

Reply #621309

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Cole returning means great side line support. That's it. It would be like the 70 + YO Kerle coaching again.


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Shano76
Two months ago
22:38 28 Jan 17

Reply #621323

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Anon i don't think anyone was saying he would or should coach!


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ayjay
Two months ago
22:40 28 Jan 17

Reply #621324

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

That last foul called on EJ was a disgrace. His response was understandable after he defended so well . Only contact was White's elbow fending off. Possible game outcome changer. Refs are a disgrace and have been all season. AJ 2 fouls for the game, Really! They played stat catch up as the foul count mounted on Illawarra and they seem to think reasonably even foul stats = good umpiring. Dumb and dumber. Actually a fairly common practice and most obvious just after the main break.

On the other hand congratulations to the Hawks for bringing such an intense physical effort to challenge the sixers and to keep their second place alive.

Question. Can we afford to keep Terence in our starting five. Does he deserve to be there come finals or is it a contractual arrangement? He seems to struggle with his shooting in the tougher games.

Thoughts?


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Anon
Two months ago
22:57 28 Jan 17

Reply #621337

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Coach Bev master of intimidation and injury. Just tune in to what his young yedis of old are serving up to Melbourne right now.. Hawks his new generation.. Hawks integrity will fall to a new low a d a new Red Army will be hated on hoops..The lack of hustle and unusual lack of throwing in some tasty nugget moves and syrprise rotations to shake it up along with Joeys reletuvely calm demeanour towards the end suggests he is testing the waters and putting out the fishing line with a few different baits to see what they've got... All part of the lead up to finals.. Not worried one bit.


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ME
Two months ago
23:18 28 Jan 17

Reply #621352

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Looks like the Hawks are our bogey team and we should hope to avoid them like the plague in the finals.


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Rat10
Two months ago
23:50 28 Jan 17

Reply #621356

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Completely agree ajay. That call on EJ was ridiculous - he played some very good defence moving his feet, Kevin White fended off and he gets called for the foul. WTF. He should have tried to keep his cool but you can most definitely understand his reaction.

Is Kevin White the dirtiest player in the league? Nice elbow to the guts of EJ.

Case going on about the Hawks bench outscoring the Sixers bench by so much. It's not hard when your best player starts on the bench! Start J Randle on the bench and the Sixers would outscore the opposition's bench everytime too!


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Johnson
Two months ago
23:54 28 Jan 17

Reply #621357

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Can someone explain when Rotnei Clarke beat two Adelaide players to the ball and a foul got called why wasn't that freethrows as Adelaide were over the limit in fouls already.I think i heard the ref say he wasn't in possession.I thought a foul is a foul even if you don't have possession and by the way Chris Reed is the worst ref of all time.He hates the Hawks by the way he refs every time he does there games cause he canes them.Hawks are lucky to get a call from him all night.He is a deadset cheat.


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cavolo
Two months ago
00:12 29 Jan 17

Reply #621359

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Johnson - AFAIK re rules... Adelaide were in possession, inbounding the ball, therefore Adel are deemed in possession, so the foul on Drimic would have been considered an offensive foul as Hawks had not gained possession, only a deflection.

Happy to be corrected if that wasn't the case or someone sees it differently...

PS - yes, not sure how scrub man White was called for an unsportsman like foul on his off the ball hit to EJ...


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Anonymous
Two months ago
00:14 29 Jan 17

Reply #621360

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Adelaide fans pointing the finger at the refs,starting to sound like Perth fans....


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cavolo
Two months ago
00:20 29 Jan 17

Reply #621362

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Ha!! Anon #621360 - I think you'll find that most 36ers fans will agree that Hawks certainly deserved the win, umps didn't affect the result and as susual, some interesting calls both ways, but the only howler appears to be the EJ one toward the end.

Hawks fans, any from your perspective?

36ers weren't as composed as they usually are, Randle and Sobey looked a touch off, but credit Hawks D overall as they were intent and physical all night. Sobey had a few 'headless chicken' turnover moments which looked like the first time all year.

Was pleased after digging a hole (10 point deeficit) with a few mins left that we cranked up the D to get big stops and about 3 turnovers to have two shots at tying the ball game...


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Dazz
Two months ago
00:24 29 Jan 17

Reply #621363

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I think people are reading far too much into this.
Adelaide were competitive, but had not much to play for. Hawks playing for a finals berth.
Not sure how many times we need to say that the split means nothing.


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cats 4 life
Two months ago
01:43 29 Jan 17

Reply #621372

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Dazz, go to bed


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Ingles13
Two months ago
01:47 29 Jan 17

Reply #621373

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Hawks probably deserved to win in a nice close game. Shocking tech on Jacobson. Also was there a missed goaltend at the end there on randle? Looked like Ogilvy got it after it hit the board


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KET
Two months ago
01:50 29 Jan 17

Reply #621374

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Hawks are probably the bogey side for Adelaide.

A competitive loss away to Illawarra can be in some respects a good way to lose. 36ers have been blown away a few times this season, but they can be chalked up to that bad start when the team was at a "different point in time" and an odd bad match vs Utd.


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koberulz
Two months ago
04:17 29 Jan 17

Reply #621379

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Adelaide were in possession, inbounding the ball, therefore Adel are deemed in possession, so the foul on Drimic would have been considered an offensive foul as Hawks had not gained possession, only a deflection.
Correct.


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Tom
Two months ago
07:17 29 Jan 17

Reply #621381

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Ingles I agree. Why did they not review that. Was it outside the 2 minutes? Hawks got the game into their mode. Grind grind grind and pinched the break to just create a buffer and hang on. They seem to be able to do that at home. But not on the road.


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Manu Fieldel
Two months ago
08:52 29 Jan 17

Reply #621382

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Kobe, I've noticed you say the word 'correct' a lot.


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Anonymous
Two months ago
09:18 29 Jan 17

Reply #621384

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

A goaltend call (missed or made) is not able to be reviewed


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PeterJohn
Two months ago
10:10 29 Jan 17

Reply #621389

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

"Completely agree ajay. That call on EJ was ridiculous - he played some very good defence moving his feet, Kevin White fended off and he gets called for the foul. WTF."

FWIW, I've only watched about half a dozen games this season. They've all featured guards pushing off with their arms and hands to create space for shots and none have been called. It's happened multiple times in all games I've watched, to the extent that one defender was called for a flop after being pushed over with an open hand and straight arm by the player with the ball. I assumed refs were treating offensive fending off as they've always treated hooking. i.e., allowing it. It's so prevalent, I wondered whether it was about trying to encourage higher scoring.


"Is Kevin White the dirtiest player in the league? Nice elbow to the guts of EJ."
If elbowing to the guts is the criterion for dirty play, you need to include every low post player in the league. They all do it from time to time, inside the keyway with the defender on their back. Refs (and everyone else) usually ignore it.


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koberulz
Two months ago
11:23 29 Jan 17

Reply #621399

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Kobe, I've noticed you say the word 'correct' a lot.
Correct.


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KET
Two months ago
11:36 29 Jan 17

Reply #621400

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I think Manu would like to know why given it doesn't add anything to the discussion


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snooch
Two months ago
12:42 29 Jan 17

Reply #621407

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

If anything I reckon that was outstanding for the Sixers. Not buying the Hawks are the bogey team thing - there was so much more motivation for them going into the game than Adelaide.

They really had to shoot lights-out from range, had the better of the officiating, at home and got out to a 10pt lead late in the fourth - yet Adelaide kept coming and had a chance to tie it at the death.

The Sixers can take a lot out of that game.


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Manu Fieldel
Two months ago
12:46 29 Jan 17

Reply #621409

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Haha it's a Rake reference. Anyone?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2xZEJvDlOlg

One of the best TV series this country has ever produced. On Netflix, give it a whirl.


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Kingpodge
Two months ago
12:54 29 Jan 17

Reply #621413

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

hahaha you are a man of high culture Manu. Excellent use of a Rake quote.


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KET
Two months ago
13:38 29 Jan 17

Reply #621419

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Haha that is brilliant!


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KET
Two months ago
13:39 29 Jan 17

Reply #621420

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

I mean, that is correct.


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paul
Two months ago
13:58 29 Jan 17

Reply #621425

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

"Question. Can we afford to keep Terence in our starting five. Does he deserve to be there come finals or is it a contractual arrangement?"

Joey has been smart, he's put Hodgson and Ferguson, his two biggest +/- liabilities, into the starting five with Randle, Johnson and Sobey and created a more balanced bench unit.

Since then, Adelaide have rolled and been able to apply offensive and defensive pressure for 40 mins with the line-ups they rotate through.


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paul
Two months ago
13:58 29 Jan 17

Reply #621426

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Also hope to see these two teams in the GF, that was a quality ball game last night. I thought John Casey was going to explode, at some points the action was just way too quick for his style of commentary!


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Very Old
Two months ago
11:32 30 Jan 17

Reply #621600

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Brad Giersch was the "t" ref.

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/basketball/illawarra-hawks-overcome-adelaide-36ers-by-three-points-in-the-nbl-20170129-gu0qrj.html




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KET
Two months ago
11:34 30 Jan 17

Reply #621601

re: Hawks vs 36ers 28th Jan

Why is John Casey only doing Hawks home games?


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