Aussie
Years ago

Hobart Chargers in the NBL in 3 years

Looks like Hobart are trying to get an NBL team back in the League within 3 years.

I liked the old Devils name and logo but I must admit, I don't mind the name Chargers and their current logo in the SEABL.

Does anyone know what sort of crowd numbers they currently attract at SEABL games? Where do they currently play? Is basketball big in Tasmania?

Any additional thoughts?

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KET  
Years ago

Link?

For about a decade Hobart and Geelong have had articles about their aim to eventually get back into the NBL.

It's just too small IMO. With the way the league is going, the demand for high paying talent, large crowd numbers and greater sponsorship investment.. Cairns and Illawarra will be hard enough to maintain let alone other small markets.

Realistically, a second Vic team and/or a second NZ side in 2018/19 will be the focus.


Perhaps after that one or two Asian expansion teams, although the dilution of talent will be problematic.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Chargers had 2000+ people at the first game and 1000+ there last week. Game 1 was Vs North West Tassie hence the high interest.
The week sees the Chargers Vs Tigers. Stewart vs Gaze.
NBL rwady in 3 years the the mantra at the club and seeing new stadia built in the area will assist with that.
The troubling aspect again is the Davis Vs Goliath salary stuff that saw the Devils leave the NBL last time. Same shit different day IMO.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

If anything I believe it should be a "Tasmanian" team rather than a Hobart team. Would attract more fans, more sponsorship which equals more money and better players. Would need to average a minimum 4000 people attending games over first few years to stay sustainable. It could work but would need someone with deep pockets willing to spend for a few years.
I don't think Geelong is possible, very successful SEABL program but can they have a big enough crowd to pay the bills?
2nd Melbourne team in my opinion, maybe a Canberra team too. Then re-assess.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

There is an online "The Mercury" paywall article with Gaze supporting and Tasmanian team.

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spot up  
Years ago

So, Tasmania has a total pop of 520,000 or so, with Hobart being 221,000.

As a comparison:
Canberra: 381,000
Geelong: 191,000
Cairns: 148,000

If Cairns can support a team, it can't be purely population and catchment driven...although the more teams in smaller markets, the higher risk I guess.

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Jack Toft  
Years ago

Cairns is a bit tourist driven too don't forget.

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Wookiee  
Years ago

If the Bullets are playing out of the smaller Convention Centre surely any Tasmanian team could do similar?

Agree that it should be a Tasmania team more than just Hobart, but I'm not really familiar with the area, would there be as tribal a feeling with their teams as say Melbourne or to a smaller extent, Sydney and Kings/Razorback fans and the failed Spirit experiment?

Speaking of touristy comparisons, not trying to generalise, but there are probably very different appeals to those who would spend their time in Tasmania compared to Far North QLD? The people that I know that live in Tas or have moved there or holiday there are the older variety, but that could be a completely unrelated generalisation (lucky for me though that this is the internet, so those are more than acceptable discussion points)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Has to be Devils.

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Watto  
Years ago

Now's the perfect opportunity for them to take the Tassie Tigers name!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

No, has to be Devils. WTF @ Tigers (which is the cricket team anyway).

I know there is a rivalry between Launceston and Hobart, but surely being a Tasmanian team would help re: sponsorship. Play at Derwent Entertainment Centre in Hobart and at Silverdome Arena in Launceston which are over NBL minimum capacity requirements.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Hobart & Launceston should get together. Two heads are better than one

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Mock  
Years ago

Bringing back the Hobart Devils would make Mock a VERY happy camper. Great memories and a great franchise.

Who remembers a young Anthony Stewart lighting it up? GREAT bloke too, loves a chat.

I believe the NBL should be 10-12 teams ideally. Players can join from the D-league and get more money. BRING IT ON!

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yeah, I remember Wildcats eventually poaching Stewart with their dollars and Devils' hopes faded. With the current spending by the big clubs history is repeating itself yet again.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Throwback Thursday: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tuv3NCd77_0

Calvin Talford bitches!

And big LOL at the comments where Brett Rainbow's youtube account smack talks about threepeating the dunk contest.

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AngusH  
Years ago

I think people underestimate the distance between Hobart and Launceston.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

AngusH people also dont understand the massive divide within Tasmania that is the North and the South.

North hate the South and visa versa. Add to that no one travels. North stay in the North, South stay in the South.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

BTAS, BA (cough) and the NBL are all behind the Tassie talk.
For the first time ever all the Tasmanian basketball hierarchy are behind the NBL push, with games to be played across the state.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

AngusH and Anon - I can appreciate there might be a bit of a divide between North and South. But the state combined would have a far better chance at financial success than the 2 individual cities. And for a state with no A-League or AFL representation I think it would be important to move in there now (within next 3 years) before it is too late.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

This is a state that has produced some very good players of late:
Chris Goulding, Adam Gibson, Matt Knight, Lukas Walker... to name a few. Capitalize now

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SteveK2  
Years ago

Not saying its impossible, but the odds are heavily stacked against the feasibility of a Tassie NBL team. Cairns is the closest comparison and to a large extent, Tasmania's economy is also tourist driven but would the same model work? Is there a strong demand from the locals for a sporting code they want to emotionally and financially invest in?

Start improving the Chargers profile and fan experience first I'd say, when its buzzing and the talk of the town every week, then it would be time to revisit the idea.

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Watto  
Years ago

Don't forget to add Drake U'U to that list too

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Ricey  
Years ago

From my experience, there's not a great deal to do in Hobart and tassie in general. Most events don't go there, and if they do they're terribly promoted locally bar a few concerts here and there.

There's a huge market for any sport that's established in the community to flourish and pull numbers to games. Just needs to be ran properly and it will do great... are Hawthorn still playing games there and involved with the community? If so get them as a partner to help capitalise on attendance and interest

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Watto his mother was born there not the player himself.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

Spot on Ricey! And do so before there is an A-League and/or AFL team. Not that they are direct competition but if you can lock in a reasonable amount of supporters it can grow from there. The SEABL shows there is a basketball community there, but the main target audience would be families whether they are basketball fans or not, that is where the money is.

Haha Watto... and are we counting U'U as a good player of late?!

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Watto  
Years ago

U'U scored 20 points once! Gotta love the Drake ;-)

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HiNRG  
Years ago

Haha I think "once" is the important word there

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ricey you really know nothing about Tassie. 2 AFL sides. 1 Netball side. Hockey all at the elite levels.
Basketball in Tassie has been the poor cousin to other codes and that will change shortly. Even the NRL play a game a season.
There has been talk of perhaps 2 NBL games in Tassie next season.
PS don't tell Elton John no one goes there either ;)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Those aussie rules and netball sides are from Melbourne and play a couple of token games in TAS each year. Hardly their own team. Only national side is the state cricket team.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I never said they were local teams. They play far more than token games too. I guess you don't know that either. The $$$'s that the Government put's into those teams is 10's of Millions and basketball needs some of that. The NBL may happen and even if it doesn't both sides of government need to start funding properly the grassroots basketball in Tasmania

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Ricey  
Years ago

I didn't say I knew everything or much at all about tassie lol...
But as pointed out, those teams you mentioned aren't based out of Tas and lol at mentioning Hockey. I didn't even know there was a league for hockey anybody paid attention to lol
I'm not even sure what you're arguing actually. Does anybody?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

yes you are right you know nothing.

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proud  
Years ago

I'd love a team there from all of Tassie and that point about north and south hating one another and not attending games at others stadium.... that's fine because as far as i can see it, if the team makes finals and they have to choose between Hobart and Launceston then we know what the NBL will do; they'll go with the one that makes the most money so if fans from both cities get out to games in part out of spite so the other may miss out on a finals game or less games the following season then use that...create a rivalry between the fan bases. Heck even have the team wear a different home jersey for each venue which could mean more merchandise monies. (Yes old Devils inspired jersey for Hobart and Launceston city casino inspired jersey for the other)

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Agreed proud. Great shoutout to the old Launceston Casino City.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

Love that concept proud! Splitting home games could really revolutionize the way smaller markets operate

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Freethrows  
Years ago

HiNRG, I'll assume that's an ironic post, because it's completely untenable to have a team split its games between two cities. Who would buy a season membership to a team, when they will see half of the home games or less?

It's a stupid idea.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Umm they'll buy a half season membership... lol

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Anonymous  
Years ago

You wouldn't offer all home games to members in Hobart as who would drive all the way to Launceston. Pretty obvious that's what was meant. Also half season/seven game packs would be easier to sell as less of a time and money commitment.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

I have just googled the north-south rivalry of Tasmania. It gets extreme when in Tasmania's largest prison northern inmates have to be separated from southern inmates. Amazing. Based on this a shared team won't work haha

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paul  
Years ago

I'm pretty sure Freethrows was just having a laugh, pretty obvious you'd sell memberships in accordance with the number of games in each city!

The north-south rivalry won't be all that relevant if the club does the grassroots work needed and markets to kids playing basketball, who then nag their parents to go to a game.

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HiNRG  
Years ago

I thought the idea of a half-season membership was a good idea. A city like Hobart could struggle on it's own to create enough interest and money to sustain in the NBL nowadays. A whole state is the answer to this. However considering the vast distance between the 2 cities you could not expect Launceston residents to drive a 4 hour round trip just to watch a 2 hour basketball game. So surely the "share" concept could have some merit.

It amuzes me when people simply post on here "stupid idea" instead of suggesting their own "great idea".

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ROFLcopter  
Years ago

The Tassie 2 headed idea is solid.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Hahaha. I originally mentioned the Launceston/Hobart split just so I could mention "2 heads" in a thread about Tasmania

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Anonymous  
Years ago

2 heads I thought TAS' outline was a va-jay-jay

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Thoughts are to play NBL games where basketball is strong in Tassie. Hobart, Launceston and Devonport.
There is a lot of money up in the North/ North West and the whole state is already behind the push. The only thing I would think about is the salary cap completion and the long term sustainability.
The Chargers are getting about 1000 people to a game now and that's more than last season already. See how that goes by seasons end, and then that needs to grow each year. There has been mention of 3000 people to a seabl game in 3 years.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Devenport Warriorrrrrrs! Ah, the NBL of the 80s, when the Devils, Tigers (Launceston) and Warriors all played in the league.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

This new franchise would have a banner to hang -- the 1981 Launceston Tigers NBL Championship.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Cliff Martin!! Still hasn't been paid.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Not surprised as they were always marginal, only in existence due to generous state government subsidy and casino support. Also their championship banner is missing.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Record low crowd of AFL supporters yesterday it seems Roos Vs GWS.(9000) The same issue could be interpreted to basketball.
Yet the Premier of Tassie is pushing to relocate the Suns to Tassie if they fold. Crazy.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Because why should locals buy into a team which isn't theres? NBL side will be their own.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

thiers*

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Wookiee  
Years ago

lol try again, anon?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

lol first time was correct, wookie

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The only way it will work is to play home games north and south of the state.
Living in the North I would support a Hobart based team in Tassie but would be unlikely to get to many if any games. It's not because of travel but more limited free time with work and family commitments.
Let them base themselves in Hobart. Train in Hobart Live in Hobart but their home games must be played in both North and South. I would generate better sponsorship and assure well-supported games.
Even play Finals in Hobart but lets all get a chance to see and support a Tassie team

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