Anonymous
Years ago

Patty Mills starts vs Rockets in Game 5

Finally Pop comes to his senses

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alexkrad  
Years ago

BEAST MODE

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Yep beast mode confirmed

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Mick  
Years ago

Aussie players love letting the clock run out before taking the shot in a buzzer beater scenario. One day I will learn why...

Gasol fucked up by not clearing out but it's still no excuse for Patty.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Great effort as their only real PG. 43 minutes for 20 points in an OT win. Solitary turnover too. Wonder if Pop would fancy him as starting PG in the future rather than forever that impact guy off the bench?

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Isaac  
Years ago

Video of Manu's block on the buzzer:



And here's Patty's three that would've won it before OT. Pop rips Gasol but you can see Manu gesturing at Gasol too - I assume he was meant to provide a screen for Mills earlier?

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Mick  
Years ago

Parker does nothing but hurt the Spurs at this point. You can't trade him because no one would want him, and you can't trade him because he's a club legend. He's really going to hamstring them because he wants to play on for a few more years and he's just not up to it any more.

I think starting Mills for two or three years until Murray is ready to take the reins is not a bad idea.

If I were the Spurs i'd be looking to move Parker, Gasol, and Aldridge very soon.

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Think Parker and gasol should retire, Aldridge should stay. Ginobli may not come back.
Mills more minutes at 1 or 2

I think someone like Adel would be a great second round pick for Spurs.
They need another quality guard as 1st pick and a centre.

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AKA  
Years ago

Josh Hart out of Villanova seems as though he would be the perfect fit at the Spurs. Will likely go late 2nd round too. He is a senior out of college.

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Isaac  
Years ago

Lowry will be a free agent.

Parker wants to play on, but isn't Manu retiring?

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Gasol shouldnt retire.

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Ricey  
Years ago

Parker should retire because he's not a dominant PG anymore? Ok then. Or he could just come off the bench. Not sure how a solid veteran player who still has gas in the tank hurts the team when he's helped them get to the second round of the playoffs.

Ginobli will retire obviously or come back one more time and be deeper in roatation.

Why trade Aldridge? He fits the system and plays his role.

Gasol can take or leave as Lee has shown he still is a solid piece in the rotation.

Have to wonder if it's school holidays or if people even know a thing about the game anymore. You don't need to be a superstar to contribute to a team and have value. That and it apparatus people know more about how to coach the Spurs than popovich lol

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Ricey  
Years ago

It appears*

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Anonymous  
Years ago

Ricey most discussion about NBA on here is facepalm worthy. Par for the course.

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Mick  
Years ago

Aldridge hurts the team because he is scared (or injured?) to do anything but a 15ft fadeaway at this point. He gets a mismatch with a smaller guy isolated in the post and it's a turnaround jumper over the right shoulder instead of something more aggressive.

It's very risky for a guy like that to be your second option as he's lost his dynamism as a scorer - if the 15 footers aren't falling, he can't (or won't) go to his counters any more, and because he shies away from contact, he can't get to the free throw line to get a groove that way. If he was carrying an injury that would explain a lot because he has just lost all of his assertiveness and touch around the rim out there. Unfortunately the LaMarcus that had that massive series against Houston (for Portland) appears long gone, and he's nearly 32. He also outwardly does not like playing the five spot, which is a problem given his footspeed with the way the league has evolved.

Parker can't guard anyone in a league full of dynamic point guards, then on the other end he's lost the zip to get to the rack (and free throw line). It doesn't matter in the regular season because of the Spurs infrastructure, but his inability to stay in front of guys really hurts in a 7 game series and puts a lot of extra load on Kawhi and others. More importantly, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy that would thrive in a bench role. He's also just had a pretty significant injury, and the rehab would be hell at that age.

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Rat10  
Years ago

Parker doesn't hurt them unless than can get someone better at the point who takes his minutes. Who knows how he's going to come back from his injury. For me, the point guard position is an obvious weakness for the Spurs against all other teams in the West.

Think about it - at this stage in his career he's clearly the worst starting point guard in the West except for maybe George Hill. And you could argue that one either way.


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Anonymous  
Years ago

Rat10 I'm assuming you mean amongst playoff PGs? If so, I think that's fair. But wouldn't you also rank Patty as the worst in that mix? The starting PG cohort in the west playoffs is impressive. Like you said, Parker only hurts them if they have a better alternative.

But they're the Spurs. They have the best combination of good drafting and player development in the league. And they can always fleece someone in a trade. They've drafted 3 of the league's starting PGs at an average draft position of 33rd, compared to the remaining 27 whose average draft position was 19th (counting the undrafted guys as 61st).

If you're curious, the average draft position of starting West playoff PGs was 10th (using Parker's 28th, not Patty's 55th). For the east it was 22nd. On the Spurs' record, Dejounte Murray could well be their PG of the future.

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Ricey  
Years ago

Parker and Aldridge don't need to be superstars. That's not how the Spurs operate. So long as they work the system and play their game it's not an issue.

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Mick  
Years ago

Not so sure Ricey.

The Spurs play for titles and nothing else. Aldridge and Parker as the third and second options offensively in the starting five is ok for another team, but Kawhi needs more help if they want to win another ring.

That's why you judge Spurs players harder. Are those two guys good enough to be the 2nd and 2rd options offensively on a title team? Probably not.

Better to reload now so Kawhi's entire prime is spent on a legit contender.

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Ricey  
Years ago

Every year we hear the same arguments about how he Spurs are too old and not good enough. Every year they prove those arguments to be close to rubbish. Maybe Popovich knows something everyone else doesn't. Then again, he's only been to the playoffs every year since coaching the Spurs, so he probably is just getting lucky

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Mick  
Years ago

They're not getting past the Warriors is my point, and internal development is not going to get them over that hump, so they're going to have to make a couple of moves this offseason or the next.

Organisations like the Spurs are held to a higher standard because they only play for titles.

(I'd love to be proven wrong because I can't stand the Durant Warriors, but I don't see it happening).

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Zodiac  
Years ago

Then again, he's only been to the playoffs every year since coaching the Spurs, so he probably is just getting lucky


He didn't make the playoffs in his first season as Spurs coach but then after that they 'lucked' into drafting Tim Duncan to put along side star centre David Robinson returning from injury and the rest is history.

Btw I'm not saying Pop can't coach just that he hasn't made the playoffs every year since coaching the Spurs and he's had more good luck than most.

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Isaac  
Years ago

It's likely they're smart and competitive as is, but will also look to make a move, as they did with Aldridge.

Best point is probably Mick on Kawhi spending his prime with a strong supporting cast. If Manu retires, that's $14m to use. If Parker goes to the bench, Mills has to be a viable championship-contending starter, they have to replace him, or they have two solid guards on the bench. I can't see Parker playing for another team - Duncan, Parker and Ginobili are all Spurs legends.

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Ryan McKee  
Years ago

I've been a Spurs fan since the Admiral was drafted and my views are:

LMA is under performing but has a dodgey knee atm, but I really don't like relying on jump shooting big men.

Best case scenario LMA gets healthy and returns to Portland form, Manu and TP retire, we resign Patty and pry either championship hungry CP3 or Lowry away from their respective teams.

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Freethrows  
Years ago

Rumour has it the Violet Crumbles will sign Parker for the 2017/18 NBL season, half way through which he will retire for "family reasons".

Wait, did I post this in the wrong thread?????

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Aldridge is certainly bringing it today

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Mick  
Years ago

Aldridge is unstoppable when his shot is falling. Makes aside, he's putting in the effort to shoot quicker out of post ups and not pound the rock, and get waaay deeper seals in the paint on mismatches. Can't fault him here. Both he and Gasol are controlling the defensive glass as well.

The most underrated thing about this game is how well Patty is controlling the pace as a pure PG. I kinda expected him to come out and put up 25 but the Spurs to lose. Instead, he's playing under control, picking his spots, getting everyone involved and dictating the tempo. He looks like Mike Conley out there.

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Duke Fan  
Years ago

Patty is an assist machine today, in a Spurs team that's really sharing it around

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Ricey  
Years ago

Confused. One second Aldridge is a liability and the next he's getting props lol

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Mick  
Years ago

That tends to happen when you have a great game after underwhelming for two years...

I praise when he plays well, and critique when he plays poorly and without effort.

What do you do?

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