LC
Two years ago

Undrafted Humphries and Mathiang sign SL deals

After going undrafted in yesterday's NBA Draft, the Washington Wizards and Charlotte Hornets have signed Aussies Isaac Humphries and Mangok Mathiang to NBA Summer League deals, respectively.

Humphries and Mathiang agree to NBA Summer League deals

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Well the dream is still alive for these two but its about to get a whole lot tougher to get in. They'll have to be perfect on both ends of the floor and somehow convince their teammates to let them in on the action.

They'll run with and against stronger, more experienced players who tend to be more selfish and maybe look after their own mates. Anyways good luck to both of them, shouldn't have listened to the wrong crowd and declared for the draft when they're not ready.

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LC  
Two years ago

Mathiang graduated...

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

Yeah I'm aware Mangok graduated LC. Sadly his age isn't draft friendly. Maybe unconventional but no max age limit to declare for draft AFAIK. Might have tried going prof for a year or two and declare as a 'pensioner' during a weaker draft year later as an oddity. Might have given him a bit more publicity.

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twenty four  
Two years ago

"no max age limit to declare for draft AFAIK."

There is.

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

There is a minimum age limit which is 19 and currently debated to be raised to 20 or 21 to discourage one and done. There is however no mention anywhere publicly of a maximum age limit. Plenty of discussions/questions on max age but I haven't seen any official statement on it yet.

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twenty four  
Two years ago

"There is however no mention anywhere publicly of a maximum age limit."

Yes, there is. In fact, there's even a term for it: 'automatic eligibility'. Mathiang was 'automatically eligible' this year as he had finished his four years of college ball, so was in this draft whether he liked it or not.

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LC  
Two years ago

*Mathiang was actually a 5th year senior!

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SteveK2  
Two years ago

is automatically eligible the same as automatically entered? There is a process for early entrants to withdraw but is there a similar process for automatically eligible entrants to withdraw, play somewhere else and re-declare later?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

"is there a similar process for automatically eligible entrants to withdraw, play somewhere else and re-declare later?"

No.

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Wookiee  
Two years ago

Just as a bored discussion topic, would this be a better example of players in Mathiang's position leaving college a year early to take a similar path to Bolden in going pro for that final season before automatic eligibility and improving draft stock?

In a better position than coming straight out of high school like someone like T-Ferg and not really being able to match up physically that well, as while T-Ferg was drafted mostly on potential, one of the positives of his time in the NBL is that he had a full season competing against men instead of college kids?

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Hopefully Humphries gets some experience, gets a gig other than d-league where he can develop and gets another invite next year. Maybe Joey can convince him a stop in Adelaide might help.
But really a shame with all that potential he went to Kentucky. Imo could have had a good couple of years at another school where he could have gotten minutes which he needed and bolstered his stock like a Baynes and Bairstow.

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Zodiac  
Two years ago

Just as a bored discussion topic, would this be a better example of players in Mathiang's position leaving college a year early to take a similar path to Bolden in going pro for that final season before automatic eligibility and improving draft stock?


I used to wonder this with Schenscher if he had left college after his junior year when his stock was at it's highest rather than going back for his final year and then going undrafted.

In his 3rd year he had a big game in the SF's, helped get Georgia Tech to the NCAA championship game had a decent game there and made the All-Final Four team.

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

The challenge for a kid like Mathiang turning pro overseas to boost NBA draft stock is that he has to be productive right away. I just don't think it would have made much difference for him.

Bolden's situation was different to start with, because of the ineligibility at UCLA and being younger. It's not hard to understand why he wanted to move on. If his sense was that UCLA wasn't working because of the training limitations, good decision. I think it's also fair to ask whether playing with Lonzo Ball would have made him look even better and gotten him into the first round. How do you know?

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Wookiee  
Two years ago

Yeah, too many hypotheticals I guess... I'd be keen to see college kids maybe do that with the NBL though, either local or import, especially with the 3 import rule... Would rather a young exciting prospect and start to get the reputation as a league where kids can come and grow and showcase their talents instead of say having a SEABL level import that wouldn't get much playing time anyways...

Hopefully Humphries gets some experience, gets a gig other than d-league where he can develop and gets another invite next year. Maybe Joey can convince him a stop in Adelaide might help.

His hometown Kings have put an offer to him that hopefully he takes if the NBA doesn't work for him the first time around... I think he'd really flourish here, especially with the work ethic and strive to prove himself that he's been showing in workouts, and he'd definitely get the minutes in a currently very sparse Kings front line...

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Anonymous  
Two years ago

Names to watch..

Aus
Humphries Washington
Mathiang charlotte
Maker Milwaukee
Exum Utah
Sobey Utah
Creek Utah

Nzl
Webster Dallas
Webster charlotte

Aus ties
Ferguson Oklahoma
Prather Cleveland
Craig Denver
Ellis Minnesota
Rahon golden state

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